Why the frick does it make IST seethe so much? Serious question. Is it mostly purist dyels who seethe about it know that you are going to surpass them quickly once you start taking TRT? Or are there actually massive downsides (more than upsides) when it comes to TRT?
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Cheaters never prosper
A cheater is the highest paid football coach in history. In the real world people go by the saying “if you ain’t cheating you ain’t trying”.
100% of professional athletes in high paying sports are on gear
Yeah except like 90% of athletes. The only reason this dude got caught was because he got greedy and stayed in the sport too long so his team mates who knew about his roiding (and roided themselves) got pissed off and exposed him
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Imagine being some dyel loser sitting in front of a computer in a messy room posting on an anime pedo image board that some guy a thousand miles away is "cheating" him.
The funniest thing about natty seethe re: steroids is the cheater talking point. Trust me, you and I are not competing with each other. For people who run gear in natty competitions, yes, they're cheaters. For the vast, vast majority of steroid users, you are not in the same competition.
I wouldn't say I seethe about people using TRT but it just can't be compared to natty. I personally would not take it for my own reasons but if someone wants to tale it go ahead, you just can't be smug in mogging me when the T did most of the work
It depends entirely on who it is prescribed to.
The average test levels for a man below 30 is about 500-600ng/dl, with the top 5% of natties being around 1000ng/dl.
When someone who is low T is prescribed testosterone, the target range that the doctors aim for is 500-600ng/dl so that they end up with average testosterone levels instead of high testosterone. Some unethical clinics target 900-1000ng/dl to put their patients in the top 5%, but those clinics are very rare.
Saying that most TRT patients who are brought into the 500-600 range "can't be compared to natty" is a stupid thing to say when they literally have the exact average for natty men in their age group
True but in IM shot of test E releasing constant testosterone is a little different to naturally fluctuating T levels even at the same Ng/ml
trt is highly based. with the amount of chemicals, medication, and absolute garbage most men put into their bodies, its so arbitrary and fear based to draw the line at testosterone. the modern man's hormone profile is absolutely demolished from xenoestrogens, microplastics, processed foods, lack of sleep, stress, feminism and liberal society etc, it makes sense to fight back by adding test. our natty levels are so much lower than they used to be.
there is variation between injections due to the compound's half life.
>draw the line at testosterone
Thanks in part to all the fear propaganda surrounding steroids. A lot of normies don't understand that it's possible to use it medicinally at low doses instead of blasting it like bodybuilders do. To them, a man who is on 200mg of TRT per week has the same health risks as some giant meathead blasting 1 gram a week. They will forever be stupid and it's best to just ignore their opinions
> you just can't be smug in mogging me when the T did most of the work
This shit right here is why natty purists annoy tf out of me. The sheer ignorance.
I never needed TRT to put on strength. I hit a 3pl8 bench, 4pl8 squat, and 5pl8 DL when I was natty. Since I’ve started TRT, I stopped focusing so much on strength and instead going for higher rep ranges. My dosage is nothing insane, 180 mg a week, and I feel amazing. But that being said, y’all are so quick to blame the gear for your lack of progress. It’s not just some magic shot that adds mass like the super soldier serum in captain America. You still need to put in the work. Yes I still meal prep, hit the gym 4-5 days a week (sometimes twice a day), set aside fast food, weed and alcohol, and prioritize my rest and recovery. Yea, TRT helps but you still need to put in the work.
Besides, it wasn’t even just about hitting fitness goals that made me start. My mood, energy levels, focus and drive have drastically increased since starting. My life outside the gym has improved because I’m at better hormone levels. I know a lot of people who take TRT and don’t even exercise, just purely for the mental health benefits.
>I know a lot of people who take TRT and don’t even exercise, just purely for the mental health benefits.
This. Having low test makes you feel like complete shit with brainfog and always being zapped of energy. Fixing those issues is a lot more important to most guys than having a nice body. That's just a bonus
not just feel like shit, but your entire personality is worse off. I haven't had bloodwork done but I can tell you it was a night and day difference since I started self medicating. My interactions with all people, my attitude toward all things, my very essence as a human has been altered. I envy the kids who became high test males in puberty and got to have this confidence and comfort and energy from the get go. I am a better person through and through. I was a greasy lil selfish fat misbehaved bastard of a teenager and I think being low T played a large role. All I think about is how to be a respectable, thoughtful, kind and genuine man to the people around me now. It may not push a magic button to turn you into a top tier physique but in my case it pushed that button that turned me into a top tier man.
having low T basically means that the person will be a perpetual manchild from an emotional and mental standpoint and never develop into becoming a man and all that entails. i'm glad it worked out for you
pic related also went from being a perpetual teenager to suddenly becoming a man thanks to TRT
Seems like when you've gotten to the point of injecting pharmaceuticals into your ass you've lost the plot
At what point did your fitness become less about being an optimally healthy person and more about sacrificing it all for mass
The decision is just really foreign to me
as someone who's about to start his first cycle, the way I look at it is that I literally can NOT go to the gym, I have to be at the gym 7 days a week because it's therapeutic for me but doing that much volume and intensity as a natty makes unable to recover, so I'm starting a mild test only cycle for the recovery aspect of it
redpill me on cypanoate vs ethanoate.
another loser who cant even google or bother to learn about esters and half lives.
You are a pitiful piece of shit
same question but estrogen and the general public