Why the frick is this so hard explaining to people that have never done any martial arts but wasted their time building useless muscles to become slow and useless?
Why the fuck is this so hard explaining to people that have never done any martial arts but wasted their time building useless muscles to become slow ...
what?
Mma homosexuals are the worst posters on this board
truly
have a nice day OP
Take that back. Its BJJ posters who are the worst.
for every bjj poster there are 15 (skinny) boxing fanboys (not boxers themselves) who are obsessed with tha streetz, and for every one of those guys there's another 15 'muscles are useless its all about martial arts chakra' posters.
You just have extra hate for bjj posters since the fact that a few guys who look like accountants can have you snoring in a minute makes you insecure. This goes for most other arts too but the relative lack of overt alpha shit in bjj makes you seethe ten times as hard since those guys dont even look cool.
Guy on the left literally relies on the ruleset protecting him. He tries to do a heel hook on you, you just sit up and gouge his eyes out.
>hehe...I'm just to hardcore I see red bro.
"Rules"? My hands are deadly weapons like Jason Bourne. No I've never trained at all but I'm totally better at fighting than people who spend all their time fighting
>people who spend all their time fighting
MMA practitioners aren't fighting, though.
Of all the moronic copes this is the most moronic one. You know that because the guy on the left follows a certain ruleset doesnt mean he loses the ability to also fight dirty do you? If you can gouge his eyes he can do the same, only he can control the distance, his body, stay calm under pressure and get into advantageous positions a million times better than you.
Then why do all those street fights between the average Joe who can 'gouge the eyes out' and an MMA fighter end the same?
In a streetfight the average Joe doesn't have 6 inches and 100 lbs of muscle on the MMA fighter.
>just get up bro
Guy on the left literally subdued a drunk belligerent idiot with BJJ and top control. His name is Ryan Hall. Look up the video, it's out there. Dumbass.
you are the guy on the right
thanks
You need to have a decent position to gouge eyes effectively. You're not snatching them out of a dude's head like Pai Mei and people have eyelids and the ability to move their head.
you won't do shit being folded like a pretzel. grappling is all about achieving a superior position that allows to easily control every move of the opponent. I'd love to see you try to move your hands anywhere near someone's face being squished in kesa gatame. and morons who've never been in a fight, somehow coming up with the idea that people automatically lose the ability to do the eye gouge memes once they learn how to fight, are always hilarious
>Guy on the left literally relies on the ruleset protecting him
Oh you mean like a sport? Kek this isn't a bar room brawl
How is this so unpopular, my fav guy is probably Ryan Hall but doesn’t he rely heavily on no kicking on the mat?
That’s why bjj has such a huge advantage in the UFC no?
If kickboxers could stomp ground guys then no crawling around waiting and that roll Ryan hall does would be suicide
t. Casual who prefers seeing the ultimate fighter cross discipline instead of more wrestling
And Larry would rely on bearhugging him until left tires out.
You're right that there are probably a lot of people who would destroy big name MMA fighters in a real fight (my guess is special forces types and maybe some violent criminals) but Larry Wheels? The guy is made of glass and doesn't fight. You actually need to have experience in fighting to be effective in real fights.
Because no one cares, homosexual
>sharpens stick
Nice mma skills moron
>b-b-but if we were locked in a octagon with no weapons or backup
Yeah in the real world you get shot or end up in prison for trying to start fights, no one gives a shit outside your gay little clique
Its a sport moron
>BUT WHAT IF I DROVE A PICKUP TRUCK THROUGH ALL THE FOOTBALL PLAYERS AND KILLED THEM
have a nice day
BJJ is moronic anyway
people don't act like it is a sport, they act like it is the ultimate form of fighting. Like OP's pic, even though it is clearly satire
>Its a sport moron
So is bodybuilding. The guy on the right would lose in the octagon the same way the dude one the left would be mogged onstage.
Saying shit like "bodybuilders couldn't beat MMA fighters in MMA" is like saying LeBron couldn't hit an MLB pitch. It's probably true, but nobody fricking cares.
>muscles make you slow and useless so lifting is pointless compared to muh mma
>b-b-but actually it’s just a sport like football, I wasn’t implying anything with my disingenuous bait post
Nice backpedaling, I see the head trauma induced brain damage is kicking in
>"t-t-take that!"
>attempts to stab weakly with spear that he can barely hold
>has it taken away, broken in half, then gets raped
You don't take a weapon everywhere you go, anyway. Hell I bet you don't even own any weapons at all.
>You don’t take a weapon everywhere you go
Guess again homosexual, the relevance of hand to hand combat was eliminated in the stone age
nice hunk of plastic, the next upload you have of that piece of shit should be of it in your mouth you fricking gay
Why are mmagays always such seething morons?
Literally no coherent argument ever just endless crying when you call their bullshit
im not an mmagay im just telling you that your gun is hunk of shit and you should have a nice day with it, probably wouldnt kill you because it either miss your Black person brain entirely or have such little power the bullet wouldnt even go through your thick bowling ball head
The fricking cope lmao. Admit you're a nogunz yuropoor or post your piece.
Based and checked, finally an mmabro with a brain
My issue is with morons who think mma is the be all end all and everything else is useless, such as OP and the other seething tards itt
More tools in the toolbox is always better, but some of these guys act like having a screwdriver means power drills are pointless
Ty anon. Yeah my thought with mma/boxing is fitness + usefulness in conflicts when a gun would put me in prison or no one's life was in danger. I don't really go out to bars much often but that or a concert will have frickers trying to get active. Only fighters that never spar or suck at it are actively looking for fights in the street imo cause theyd get humbled at the gym first.
>conflicts when a gun would put me in prison or no one's life was in danger.
Any fistfight puts your/someone else's life in danger, all it takes is for you to get hit/land on the pavement wrong.
Best thing to do is look intimidating, never know when some manlet fricker looking for a brawl is carrying a knife
dewiener your gun homosexual
USP is for locked and wienered unless you go LEM
Edge
>role playing a power fantasy on IST
peak monday evening
Larry wheels will win he has 100 lbs on the other guy. And if not he can win with a few months of training
>pulls guard
>walk around him and kick him in the head
or
>you won because he has to stand up eventually
Add a knife and it's even easier.
>Add a knife and it's even easier.
Not when I use my SF Karate skills to fricking CQC your ass punk.
Nothing personnel.
UFC is pretty much combo boxing wrestling. Legitimate fights where people try to kill/beat the shit out of each other involve gouging, biting, rabbit punching, and all sorts of non-kosher illegal moves, and years of legitimate training and experience to actual counter. People brag about UFC because "I COULD FRICKING KILL YOU BARE HANDED DUDE" is just a way to assert physical dominance over someone else.
>I COULD BEAT UP THIS GUY WHO HAS NEVER FOUGHT ANYONE IN HIS LIFE!!!!
>People who shout "I could fricking kill you" could not kill me
I fear, my friend that you forgot a little something:
Violence is wrong.
checkmate.
Kek
Chuds, trannies, and gays all just lost to this simple reply. Nobody can say anything against it, because they know it's true, so they ignore it and bicker amongst themselves.
Why is it true? If someone is killing your mother do you use violence or not?
It feels wrong, therefore it is wrong. Only psychopaths, evil people, and pained people want to hurt others.
If I or a loved one were threatened, I'd use violence to stop assaulter. If killing myself were to save 10 people, I'd do it. And if I saw a kidnapped child locked in a car, I'd break the window. Violence, suicide, and destruction are still wrong, just lesser evils than inaction. Be wary, friends, justifying immorality is what evildoers want.
Okay, let's debate this. My argument is that violence is correct, you must persuade me otherwise.
>*pulls out gun and kills you*
Okay, I'm waiting for your counter-argument.
>Violence is wrong.
why ? because weak betas made rules to ban it ?
Because it hurts. Rocky Balboa said it rather well in the 1st movie: "everybody enjoys seeing a fight, but what they don't see is the recovery; the aches, pains, strains..." (and now brain damage and recurring health problems for the rest of your life if you're not a millionaire.)
the pain's part of the pleasure
>Violence is wrong.
But that's wrong. Violence is a normal part of life.
Violence is fun and should be encouraged
>Y-you need to be humble like me!!!
These skinny guys from the meme can still kick ur ass and rape u tho
Even in "street rules"
Stay humble
Did you get humbled by a skinny guy in your dojo?
Oh no haha don't rape me lol
That would be so weird and gross haha
Whare is that from?
hellonearth
Why are you fargots bringing rape into it lmfao?
even if theyre homosexuals, you would still be the rape victim.
>gets raped in his bunghole
>'dude ur soo gay'
What’s wrong with Krav Maga? Like I’m sure the people who get into it are cringe but I’m talking about the actual training
because it's basic military hand to hand, israelites being israelites decided to make money off it though.
>gets half the social benefits of being muscular for twice the pain and injuries
mmh... and I should do this because...?
because you're a man and not just a woman with a penis ?
So you admit women can have a penis
>but he'll take you down if you refuse to BJJ butt scoot!
Funny how this is only demonstrated on black out drunk people. People will post a video "grappler restrains attack wooooo" and it's some drunk idiot at denny's at 3am.
>BJJ
Blowjobbing israelites
Guy on left would lose to the guy on the right in armwrestling
Ikr the power's all in the elbows
The difference is that left will more than likely get threatened on the street forcing him into a self defence situation, whereas no one would dare mess with the right in public.
No one cares about your meaningless circus performance gladiator larping. The only thing that matters is that you look like you can kill someone in real life. Sure, train mma on the side if you feel so inclined, but you don't need much more than a couple months of it to know the basics that will give you an edge in a street fight. But focus on just getting big and strong to make them think twice before trying to mug you.
Didnt dave bautista get almost oblitarated by a fatty?
Larry Wheels would absolutely murder some fighter twink. Technique and muh skills do not matter when a homie is like 80lbs heavier than you
Theres a literal video of a body builder getting mogged by a gracie bjj twink on youtube
yeah because he has to follow the moronic bjj rules and is not allowed to break every limb of the twink kek. you think in a street fight you'll be allowed to roll around like a gay?
The man on the right is several weight classes higher. If they fought, and he had any cardio, he'd destroy the smaller guy
Even MMA recognizes that bigger guys shouldn't fight smaller guys and yet here you are pretending it doesn't matter lol.
that's only if both guys are fighters. You can look at plenty amateur fights and size/height has almost nothing to do with who wins. A punch to the face is a punch to the face if you dont know how to defend yourself.
Hall is a terrible example.
However there are definitely other UFC featherweights that would cave Larry Wheels head in. Arnold Allen, and Josh Emmett come to mind because they just bite down and throw hands.
forgot pic. but yeah i stand by the fact that someone like allen who weights in at 145 but walks around at 185 would cave Wheels head in.
all wheels can do is lunge in and try to grab him. meanwhile allen steps and plants a 1-2 on the nose, and swarms him.
No. Just no. If he doesn't manage to knock Wheels out in the first 1-2 hits, bro is getting folded like a fricking lawn chair. I don't care what training you have, if Wheels grabs him it's over.
Wheels grabs him. Ok now what? Nothing because the fighter slips out with technique and Wheels is now in a heel hook and gets his knee blown out. He's still fighting a grown man, not a weak woman that shakes when she benches 20lb dumbbells. The fighter still has the bare minimum level of strength to be a problem
>okay bro but what about this completely made up scenario in my head? Huh? Got an answer to that
BJJ and other dick sucking experts litteraly preach that if someone inexperienced is fighting there is a greater chance of injuries, so i'd like to see what 70kg twink does when a 130kg man sits on his knee and yanks the leg
What kind of gay cope is this?
The point of sparring is to NOT injure your opponent, so you can gain maximum fighting experience without taking weeks off for recovery time.
A street fight is not a spar, and the rules you use to prevent injury during sparring take zero effot to drop in a street fight.
If you're injuring your opponent during sparring, you're a sloppy moron that would get their ass handed to them in a street fight.
homie get it thru your thick skull that you won't be doing your fancy shit if you fight for real, and the other guy won't wait 30 seconds for you to get him in a certain position. A 130kg man wil break your twink legs and arms regardless of your training and then curb stomp you. But I know you jerk eachother off with this posts cuz you are 165cm 70kg manchilds who get absolutely 0 b***hes and you all look moronic.
>punching and grappling is "fancy shit"
Then why could gordon ryan launch hafthor despite hafthor being in a dominant position ?
gordon is untested and way heavier than any aforementioned cagefighter. the physical gap between hafthor and him is much smaller than with the others. also, they were rolling in a bjj gym lol, sweeps are obviously 10x harder to pull off when somebody is trying to push your orbital bones to the back of your skull with their elbows.
ryan still beats hafthor, but MA arent magic either.
Still the guy on the left looks like John Krasinski after a stint in Auschwitz.
All the guy on the right needs is a month of training and he cripples the guy on the left as well.
Sure, years of training can close the gap against size and strength but when there is such a massive size and strength discrepancy sub par skills still beat high level skill.
hall is 5'10 and walks around at 180. this is just a intentional unflattering photo of him
And larry wheels is 6'3, 300 lbs and can literally lift 5 ryan halls worth of weight.
He wouldn't need long to beat most bjjgays.
He's also in the hospital cause he's pissing out his own kidneys. You think Larry's eyesight is healthy?
>weight classes don’t exist
>I’m sure the trenned out gorilla that squats 800 lbs and benches 600 would be harmless and wouldn’t dislocate the other guys arms when they grappled
Are they fighting in a public bathroom with concrete floors or a football field with soft ground?
That's right motherfricker
moving to another city in a few months and plan on picking up a martial art, lots of muay thai gyms but also a few kickboxing gyms, is there any reason to do kickboxing over muay thai if I'm only doing it as a hobby?
do muay thai if you are not moving to the Netherlands
do kickboxing if you are moving to the Netherlands
If you've trained at a good gym for any length of time (not karate or something gay but a useful one) you've lost to someone less skilled and better conditioned.
Me personally I learned kungfu from master dan at the strip mall so I have to register as a deadly weapon and no one, no matter their size or strength, can beat me
Bjj is just modern era taichi.
Used to be the best shit ever a long time ago but still have the most delusional homosexuals.
If the guy on the left is significantly shorter than the guy on the right, the is a correspondingly significant probability that, however graceless, the guy on the right will simply toss him like a weightless ragdoll. The thing MMAgays dont understand about these absurd matchups is that the the foot shorter and 80lbs lighter guy needs the stars to align irrespective of whether he knows how to grapple. If a 5'6 boxer with a correspondingly short reach get in a street fight with an untrained but athletic 6'5 guy that has 80lbs on him, the boxer NEEDS the 6'5 guy to massively frick up to press the advantage. The same applies when somebody that knows how to grapple fights someone *much* larger than him because utilizing momentum, which is what 50+% of grappling is, becomes exponentially more difficult as the mass of the object increases. Submissions require the opponent to present you with the object of submission. Untrained people are easy to fight because they don't know what not to present you with, but you would be unwise to attempt to submit a man that you cannot easy punch or grapple (the means to getting to submission).
The moral of the story is that a trained man will always have *an* advantage over an untrained man; however, this advantage becomes significantly harder to press as the opponent becomes taller and heavier --- something that scales even higher when the opponent is athletic.
This is manifest in weight classes which are shared by literally every combat sport from freestyle wrestling to boxing; presuming both are equally trained/athletic, the man that is taller and heavier will win literally every single time. The benefit of height and weight, manifest in combat sport rules themselves, are not there because of training but rather the natural advantage gifted to those of greater stature; and though being untrained significantly decreases the probability of victory, it does not take away these advantages.
>t. hasn't seen old JMMA openweight tournaments
“I’m sure to win because my speed is superior”
>veteran mma fighter and judo gold medalist got embarrassed by a wrestler who took the fight on 2 week notice.....
>you have to be 70 lbs. overweight and almost nude to win against a Judoka
lol, Judo is the greatest martial art.
>Judo gold medalist
>can't land one throw or submission
>gets pieced up by wrestler with novice striking ability
damn I think you got a point about that Judo, imagine if Gardener would have been wearing a gi? Then yoskida might have missed a throw instead of a takedown and still get beat like a red headed step child
Cope more, wrestling is just shirtless Judo. All (good) throws in wrestling are derived from Judo
You can't claim every good throw is judo and every bad throw is wrestling. They obviously have alot of intersect in certain positions. To humor you, what about any takedowns that grab the legs? You gonna try and sell me on "Judo invented double legs". Not to mention wrestling is 50% takedowns and 50% ground game. I know that's probably unimaginable since you get stood up every 20 seconds, but actually having to control the guy after the takedown is a thing. lmao when will judo gays learn
I can claim what ever I want.
Judo is the greatest martial art out in the world. I don't give a frick about stupid BJJ or wrastling you do, my word goes.
Besides, what do you think they teach all the county sheriffs, MP's, correctional officers and even fricking EMTs? Not backyard submission wrastling with bubba gene! They teach them Judo, more over Jiu Jitsu.
Every good throw is Judo because if it wasn't a good throw it obviously wasn't enough to be a Judo throw.
fair enough
>every gay is a Judoka
>every Chad is a wrestler
I win now go sperg out back on IST, I will be there in a minute to frick you again
>every gay is a judoka
AHEM
Also, isn't wrestling know for sticking fingers in other people's asses as a grip.
In conclusion:
?t=35
Wrestlers love using gaping buttholes and wieners as handles to grip
here's some hastily crafted OC
saved, very good post anon
I can’t believe how there are still people against AI, this shit is great
They are just butthurt because they don't know how to use it. The same way all other martial arts practitioners get butthurt over wrestling.
Reminder that all these gi wearing blackbelt homosexuals can larp as hand to hand combat experts their entire lives but they can never rid themselves of the perpetual fear that at any moment they might get snapped down to the pavement and forced into a full nelson mating press by some cornfed iowa chad whose never thrown a punch in his entire life... and there's nothing they can do about it.
The best thing is that the injuries they accumulate over their training career almost invariably end up making them even weaker than they were to start with. I know so many BJJ guys who are functional cripples. Good job being able to 'handle yourself' now that you walk with a limp and will go down like a sack of shit if anyone taps against your shoulder.
The lack of hip control and the poor takedowns of even high level bjj guys is kinda insane tbh. I've been to about a dozen bjj classes and was thoroughly disappointed with the focus being almost entirely on technical transitions with stupid names that any half decent wrestler can easily muscle out of. I wrestled D2 and was one of the least talented guys on my team (obviously still lightyears above normies but among wrestlers I don't consider myself very good at all) and I never encountered a position in those bjj classes I couldn't just bridge out of. imo the entire premise of bjj defense is flawed, they allow themselves to take that position, but there's no reason to be there. If you have to pull guard you are basically admitting that you just lost the fight. The only reason it's viable in a sporting context is because there's rules to prevent your face getting stomped in.
Wrestler with 8 plus years experience grappling shows up to gym. Pairs with 6 month white belt.
"How could I be better then them? I'm brand new!"
I wrestled also, but I'm doubting you've trained with anyone regional much less "elite" Abu Dhabi level.
But the modern over reliance on technical transitions (relying on your opponent to not scramble or simply drop their weight.)instead of high percentage trap and roll, bridge based escapes is dead on. Shits moronic, and barely works in competitions.
Not that anon, but I did BJJ for a couple months before dropping it. Super chill wrestler bro dropped in one week to hang out and learn some submissions. Had been wrestling for years so he would sprawl, scramble, the works as was his conditioning. A couple dudes at the gym kept getting salty about him compromising their training which I thought was lame. I took it as a great opportunity to expose gaps in BJJ methodology. Wish there were adult wrestling clubs. BJJ was my fallback but I just didn’t like it that much
BJJ is so fricking boring. I don't know how anyone enjoys it.
not that anon or that other one, but other than the normie appeal of doing mma bro, it's an autism magnet. Something to do with the same sensation as weighted blankets or hugboxes, you're just hyper-focused on the rubik's cube that is your body wrapped up with someone else's body.
but as a sport on TV, yes it is quite boring.
>Wish there were adult wrestling clubs
just hang out at night clubs frequented by college bros. someone is always roid raging and willing to throw down with pretty decent technique.
this is kinda great
it's what I would've gone for if I took my time
Also vocalizing humility is sickest and most hideous form of egoism besides perhaps vocal altruism. With any other combat sport gay from judo to boxing, if I got in a fight with them I would ply my craft (freestyle wrestling) and try to win honorably, but if a MMAchud tried to fight me in any context I don't know if I would be able to restrain myself from simply shooting them for infesting the entirety of combat sports with this fricking disease.
>6:45
that spawl made me erect
he didnt even win by sub. or ko/tko he got the the judge decision
It was Gardener's mma debut, with virtually 6 weeks combined total of strike training. On paper, Yoshida should have decisively won, yet was not able to do anything with him
probably because he was wearing a potato sack for 30 minutes, judoka gi's aren't the most forgivingly breathable clothing item you can wear in a fight
Lmao judokas wear that shit by choice because they think it's an advantage. They also get mad when you don't wear one, especially if you beat them
really, thats hilarious
i would go bare ass naked if i could
>because they think it's an advantage
Said no judo practitioner EVER, you wearing the cloth is not an advantage
it certainly is an advantage if your opponent has something you can grab into, but a proper judoka doesn't need their opponent to have a gi for you to throw them
we even teach blocks against punches so that you may grab the wrists for throws or execute armbars on the fly
It's a martial art used for self-defence, absolutely nobody expects some hoodlum on the streets to wear a gi
your knowledge of judo is that of a yellow belt, or better yet, you know absolutely nothing
Seems like lots of “proper judokas” do need the gi to throw
they literally don't
I don't know what shit dollar tree dojo you got your training from and whether you've ever been to kodokan, but I know that you're talking completely out of your ass
why didn't yoshida use judo to block this then? he is a 6th dan black belt, so he should know about what you're talking about
You're using this single instance as a universal "proof" of how every single exchange in the world would go?
Do you understand how fricking idiotic that is?
Not everyone is a fighter, despite practicing a combat sport or martial art. "Fighting" is a completely different mindset from regulated matches and competitions. People who are actual killers out on the streets are equally as dangerous on the ring. To be a fighter, you need to have had experienced fighting, find a judoka who has been fighting with siblings or other people throughout their childhood and adolescence, and you've got yourself a fighter. The "sport" judo is not fighting, it's a spectacle and akin to kata where you display your skill in the art, there's clear rules to keep the art "pure" and display heavy. Then there's the fighting judo which includes strikes, kicks and tons of illegal moves that are avoided because of the harm they bring even to those you train with.
The basis of martial arts and self-defence is to avoid harm at any means necessary, things should never escalate to where you're throwing hands with someone, but if it ever comes to that, your aim is to defuse the situation and get out. It's fricking high-schooler hubris to flex with your strength and skills.
>not reading that wall of seethe
I used real proof to overturn a baseless claim that Judo is the greatest martial art, glad to know you can't prove otherwise
You not reading your opposition's response automatically invalidates anything you say because you refuse to have an intellectually honest conversation, flinging shit, baiting for replies. Concession accepted.
Judo's become something of sport which is sad, it used to be Judo would be all someone needed with its full-range of throws and striking. Now you need to implement shit like Muay Thai.
*apologizes profusely in a confrontation and then drops a dog shit in your mailbox 6 months later*
Karate is the greatest martial art. Anyone who challenges this is undedicated. Boxing close second.
Larry isn't a fighter and his size certainly does not help him against a professional striker of any size
95% of the time, those with fighting experience always come on top against those with none
I pull out my gun and shoot them both 7 times! 😀
imagine giving a shit about this endless debate that being huge and jacked and untrained loses to a trained fighter
WHO GIVES A FRICK
It’s because DYEL mmagays seethe about how bodybuilders, strongmen, and powerlifters are all seen as physically intimidating.
They cope by thinking they’re the REAL tough guys because none of them(the type that make these threads) look like they lift like a shirt on and they don’t get the same social capital that being big gets you.
They get totally lost in the weeds of their own little fantasy where they get to btfo some guy twice their size they get more and more divorced from reality where no one outside their hobby cares how good they are at fighting.
so its just dyel cope? i should have figured as much
t. insecure powershitters seething that they'd get btfo by a 120 pound twink that lives rent free in their heads
I don't lift to be a better fighter i lift because i like it. Cope harder manlet
When I see posts like this I don't feel so bad about Jake Paul the disney channel wrestler embarrassing your sport.
To be fair Larry Wheels could probably murder Ryan Hall lol
Martial arts are also a waste of time. 99% of people will never get into a fight that isn't easily avoidable. Civilized people don't act that way.
I would rather have big muscles that look impressive and intimidate anyone who might want to start shit with me, which would almost certainly be some pugnacious douchebag who trains Martial arts and wants to find an excuse to use them.
Most of us are American and fights happen here all the time, particularly in more ~~*diverse*~~ areas
Your favourite professional UFC fighter would get curb stomped to death if he tried fighting back against a group of thugs carrying knives and guns.
Larry is gonna end up with crutches without anyone ever laying a hand on him.
>can't workout and train
not equivalent - chimps literally fight and train constantly. even in captivity they're smashing their hands into the fake trees and grabbing sticks and whipping them full force into the ground.
now i'm curious how a functional fitness 260lb goon would do against an MMA fighter - surely functional fitness guy would know about leverage too.
t.watch a lot of videos of chimps hanging out.
that's a gorilla
you're ignoring the fact that our primate cousins are also literally just built different too lmao
>t.watch a lot of videos of chimps hanging out.
I, too, enjoy browsing worldstar.
Roid trannies will never be real men
Why do homosexuals comparing bodybuilders to MMA fighters always pick fighters at least 3 weight classes below the bodybuilder? Why not use fighters like DC or Tyson Fury or Fedor to highlight the differences between bodies? Hell, why not use Ngannou or Jon Jones?
Because the guys creating these images are dyels who don’t get any attention irl despite spending hours in mma classes.
>muscles = good in a fight
ask me how i know you have never been in a fight
remember when 300 lbs of tim sylvia won against Kurva Kurvajinowski after he turned purple and fell over from turning hypoxic from swinging his arms around too much.
JUDO is KING
might as well ask here.
If I want to be resilient, so that I can go through something like this
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2630w7pXfMA
and not get injured and fricked up , is it better for me to put on muscle mass so that I'm stronger, or is it better for me to try and lose weight so that falls don't have as much impact and I'm faster and more agile?
I'm 32 years old, 6'2 and 85-95 kg and the strongest I've ever been is 3 sets of 5 120kg squats but I stopped going to the gym to just do martial arts and I'm a lot weaker than that now.
>I'm 32 years old
no one is gonna reply to you coz the harsh truth is that you're past your prime.
no matter what you do you're gonna get hella injured and pushed out of the sport.
idk just focus on putting on the muscle mass so you atleast have some padding to absorb the trauma you wanna inflict on it.
"resilience" just doesn't exist past 30s, it's just injuries,recovering from injuries and coping with injuries.
i hope you're well off coz those surgeries are gonna be a hefty chunk of cash.
Thanks, I know you’re right, but does it make a difference if I’m not trying to be the best I can possibly be or to compete, I’m just trying to get decent at fighting and wrestling without getting injured in the process ?
>I’m just trying to get decent at fighting and wrestling without getting injured
i'm not gonna sugarcoat it - you don't get decent at it without getting injured.
plus think about it logically you'll be going up against ppl who have consistently been fighting since their teens. unless you're a once in a generation undiscovered talent you are always just gonna be middling to high tier and will misjudge a fight and get your ass kicked.
use it for fitness and forget about fighting - you aged out.
gay advice, it's all about getting better than you were before, which anyone can do at any age.
>just gonna be middling to high tier
thats what anon wanted, moron. No one sane does pro fighting, there are much better and efficient ways to make money.
>you'll be going up against ppl who have consistently been fighting since their teens.
Thats completely untrue
NTA but what is the lowest injury risk to highest benefit overall? Is MMA higher risk that wrestling?
Also not looking to get “good” just at least capable. I started back with Muay Thai but got injured with broken rib and few other little tweaks. Although I also didn’t expect sparring with kicks that hard at 2 months in. Seems like boxing sparring is less risky at least for musculoskeletal injury but is it good? Maybe I should just do Krav Maga or FMA or something.
I did some judo/bjj in the past but I know at 32 there’s only a small upside compared to injury risk for proper wrestling or judo, and all the BJJ gyms I tried were technical about weird things. Grappling still feels more natural, but idk how to train it.
I've been boxing for half a year and haven't been injured yet, but we also use 16lbs gloves and stress more tagging people than trying to hit them as hard as possible. If you can hit someone, it's trivial at that point to hit them harder.
Only injuries I know of at my MMA gym are from muay thai, either dye to kicking or spinning.
Idk but fun fact, muay thai is the most injury prone striking style & judo is the most injury prone grappling style.
You're an morone if you think 32 is "past your prime"
That is literally within the most dominant age range in MMA/Boxing, albeit a tad bit on the older side. Most champions win/defend their titles from 29-32, you ignorant little zoomer c**t.
kek 32 is prime if you started training a decade ago. you moronic homosexual
>Most champions win/defend their titles from 29-32
did they start training in 2023 like anon wants to? stfu and kys
wrestlerchads... Is it possible to become decent at fighting as a noob at 32 years old or do you have to learn wrestling in highschool/college?
most guys who lift just want to be strong or get pussy/aesthetic, 'fighters' all have these power fantasies of beating on people, cringe af
do you feel safe when you're not in charge
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Heh these idiots don't realize that a professional would win if a competition took place specifically in the professionals domain of expertise.
No one argues this shit shut the frick up you fat oaf c**t.
Why does everyone discount Oly. lifters when it comes to fighting? Like it's either skelly MMA or powershitters, why not the middle ground. A buff oly lifter who has the explosive strength of a powershitter
No clue. Olympic lifters are basically one cardio session away from being prime boxers.
I guess most olympic lifters are manlets.
Ngannou is going to die whenever his "fight" with fury happens but there's no making sense with you people
I don't have a clue who that is, but there's a reason that modern boxers (and most strength athletes now) crosstrain olympic lifting.
Too bad the actual sport of olympic weightlifting is a joke.
Haven't heard from this guy for a while. Why do you think he's going to die to Fury? Has he been training like shit?
It's going to be hilarious when Ngannou burns his gas tank trying to power punch all the first round and gas out immediately. If Wilder couldn't do it and he knows how to box there's no way Ngannou is going to last.
no he's not because they're both just doing it for a payday and don't want to actually hurt each other.
Boxing is like 90% cardio, you moron.
Boxers spend infinitely more time on cardio than upper body strength.
>olympic lifting is upper body strength
found the moron
Explain to me how "dirty fighting" would have won this
bodybuilder dominated until the armbar and it didn't look like he had it locked i can't tell if the bodybuilder yielded or why the match ended
>big man grabs small man
>small man too close to punch good
>big man bends small man’s joints the wrong way
>big man wins
Everyone replying in this thread (besides me) has no idea what they are talking about and if they did they wouldn't being posting here in the first place
>size matters !!
No it doesn't.
It does. That's why the UFC introduced weight classes pretty quickly once people figured out BJJ.
Protip: Most people today have never been in a fight.
Crazy how despite the fitness industry more or less being driven by insecurity and body dysmorphia fightgays somehow end up being even more insecure
>heh, you may be 6 inches taller than me and 50 pounds heavier, but I'm maxed out in dexterity and agility.
Vid related is (you) https://youtu.be/Aaehn1aY8Ig
>ryan hall
>145lbs
Body builders only fighting strategy is to fight exactly like an obese fat person, using their sheer weight to take you to the ground then hold onto you until you run out of energy cause they're so heavy. I can't think of a better strategy for a body builder than just laying on their opponent until they have no more energy to fight back. Because body builders are closer to obese people in terms of health and movement issues than being actual athletes.
Every problem a fatty has, body builders also have.
Roids are not worth it and are so vain, no wonder athletes 1/3rd a body builders weight/size can beat them in combat.
it is a strategy, see
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Dustin Poirier is 70 kg and Brian Shaw is about 180-200 kg, if the fighter can get on top then maybe, but if the bigger guy gets on top, it's over
but if the fighter can be at least heavyweight like Gordon Ryan (the meme steroid guy) then they can win even with the bigger guy being on top like Hafthor
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Why the frick this is so hard explaining to people that have never played a trumpet but wasted their time practicing for fights they'll never get into.
>gymbro is an absolute behemoth
>6'4, 300 lbs
>deadlifts lmao 7plaet
>once got challenged to a fight in a club by a drunk guy with cauliflower ears
>just kept calm and diffused the situation, even agreed that he would probably win
>Drunk guy just came off as desperate to prove himself
>Everyone at the table agreed that gymbro would have wrecked him in a fight
>Gymbro said later that he probably would have lost if he fought
>doesnt matter because fighters look too weak to own a win even if they have one
It's like if an incel beats the jock in armwrestling. People are just gonna say he isnt stronger and just got lucky/cheated or did some strange technique.
Just lift and get strong, people are not gonna pay attention to the fuming dyels who try to circumvent the natural order with cheap tricks
Didn’t bj penn get knocked out by some rando in bad fight? Some high school wrestler on drugs gave Anthony smith everything he could handle. The real question is why is it so hard to explain to mma tards that being able to compete in a sport with rules that eliminate a large number of viable fighting techniques doesn’t mean you can beat every non mma practitioner on earth, much less insanely strong roided out ones who weigh 100 pounds more than you
I'm ok not being the best fighter in the room. Problem is that the other people will think I am, and the dyel who did a couple of years in bjj or boxing is gonna throw a hissyfit about it.
>dyel
*keyed and white-pilled otterschizo
I'm just gonna pretend I am, the frick is mr MMA gonna do? Land himself in jail to prove otherwise?
nothing. only insecure losers look for fights. MAtards that pick fights arent the best representatives for MA.
i just personally think that its better to know MA and have fighting experience compared to just looking big, if that you cant have both.
Knowing how to fight is having a good hand, looking big is being good at bluffing; It doesnt take a genius to see who gets fricked more when somebody calls.
how about u prcatice the marital arts u virgin lmoa
Judo does nothing
Boxing is for men
Kicking is for women
>teeps you under a car
>that was personnel kid
boxing is a Black person sport
If you're untrained and muscular you've got the advantage over other untrained people, it's that simple. Confidence and calmness that comes from being above other people's also a bonus for a fight.
To me, martial arts are a waste of time for insecure homosexuals. I'm not saying they're useless but look at yourself moron
What, did the guy on the right forget his concealed carry that day?
I will take martial fitness over martial "arts" any day of the week & ironically everything in MMA has shown me so. The most sucessful fighters aren't the most technical, its the most brutal & athletic. Lifting is unrionically a better martial "art" than anything you IST gays argue about. Go back & leave IST be. Don't you have some palm strike/chop flamewar to get back to?
This bro, i can just like, start seeing red bro, i get in the zone and can kick anyone's ass without any training bro
You should probably still have some basics, but the fundamentals of striking/grappling is all you really need. Everything else is over specialized ego shit.
The entire point of drilling and sparring is so that you can react instantaneously because you've both been throwing and had punches thrown at you tens of thousands of times until it becomes second nature.
You're not going to be able to compete with that with "oh yeah i know how to make a fist and extend my arm kind of".
Every martial artist would lose to a professional paintball athlete in a real fight.
Hard time understanding that?
Let’s be fair even if Larry never had an mma match he will need crutches one day anyhow