How exactly? >you can’t fail this safely with weight on your back, you have to drop it on your leg
Can’t you just use the safety pins in the squat rack?
if your goal is quad hypertrophy, then you have no reason to do squats over leg press
if your goal is general strength, as well as developing more muscle groups than just your quads, squats are better
>build hips, glutes and quads with squats, build hips, glutes, low back and hammies with RDLs
voila, you have built the leg press without leg pressing.
most bodybuilders i know genuinely train like this, it definitely works
add in some quad extensions, hamstring curls, and machine adductor squeezes, and your legs are decently covered
don't bother training calves, they're all genetics zzzzz
I agree on the quad extensions and leg curls because they hit the legs from different insertion points, but I think the adductor machine is rather useless. >calves
if you have time to spend training calves then you have too much free time lel
>you don't even lift.
You literally outed yourself as someone who doesn't lift in your own fucking post lmao >I agree on the quad extensions and leg curls because they hit the legs from different insertion points, but I think the adductor machine is rather useless.
Adductors are a larger muscle group than the hamstrings, but training your hamstrings is fine while adductors is a waste of time? Interesting >>if you have time to spend training calves then you have too much free time lel >training a muscle that takes literally 5 minutes to hit is a waste of time
What
You hit the hips adequately with leg press and a hinge. >doesn't know about the functions of the hammies >calls me dyel
educate yourself mr. sub 4pl8 deadlift
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You hit the hips adequately with leg press and a hinge.
You're not performing the main function of the adductors (adduction) particularly well on either of these, unless you're doing 6-8 sets of wide-stance squatting/leg pressing 2x a week. Never got sore adductors until I actually started isolating them (and I also stopped getting groin tweaks, very thankful for that) >doesn't know about the functions of the hammies >calls me dyel
I never said that you shouldn't isolate the hamstrings through knee flexion (I personally do nordic curls twice a week, no machine leg curls bc home gym), but you're the one saying that you shouldn't isolate the adductors through adduction. What are you even trying to say?
most bodybuilders i know genuinely train like this, it definitely works
add in some quad extensions, hamstring curls, and machine adductor squeezes, and your legs are decently covered
don't bother training calves, they're all genetics zzzzz
Tom Platz said the leg press is a waste of time.
Hint: a lift carefully designed to let you lift as much weight as possible will probably not be the best lift to get bigger muscles.
>don't bother training calves, they're all genetics zzzzz
how could you be so wrong about something in the year 2016+7 AD
I built my calves abusing weighted stretch. What matters for calf growth is not trying to take the tendon out of the picture lol. What matters is training them all the fucking time, constantly. The 2 groups known for having big calves are runners and fat retards. Both of them "abuse" the tendon, it's how the muscle is supposed to work you retard. I train calves every time I lift, either with heavy AF bouncing calf raises or heavy carries. >inb4 b-but muh science bro
Post calves and let's see who's methods are superior.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
**I built my calves IGNORING weighted stretch
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
I built my calves by being a fat retard, this is the truth.
3 weeks ago
Anonymous
He won't post calves cuz his calves look like shit because he spent more time reading about the science than he did getting jacked
not him but [...] I built my calves abusing weighted stretch. What matters for calf growth is not trying to take the tendon out of the picture lol. What matters is training them all the fucking time, constantly. The 2 groups known for having big calves are runners and fat retards. Both of them "abuse" the tendon, it's how the muscle is supposed to work you retard. I train calves every time I lift, either with heavy AF bouncing calf raises or heavy carries. >inb4 b-but muh science bro
Post calves and let's see who's methods are superior.
>doing multiple substitutes to do what you can do with one exercise
Why?
Are you just scared of having a barbell on your back? You get used to the feel, you know.
Tom Platz said the leg press is a waste of time.
Hint: a lift carefully designed to let you lift as much weight as possible will probably not be the best lift to get bigger muscles.
I don't enjoy doing squats because of the high risk of injury alongside feeling like I'll fall forward once hitting proper depth. It's honestly just a scary exercise overall and leg press helps negate that stress by allowing you to sit down and take it at your own pace with much less severe consequences for messing up. You can instantly rack the weight at any point by adjusting the handles inward, you can load it up far more than most body builder you see can squat, and it's comfortable being able to sit down and have your back spread across the seat's surface rather than wobble uncontrollably while you would squatting. Never understood those that don't like the leg press, but all the power to them for being able to endure the possible issues that squatting would bring
>I don't enjoy doing squats because of the high risk of injury alongside feeling like I'll fall forward once hitting proper depth.
Just do them with a slow eccentric and pause at the bottom of each rep lol. Also use safeties like a normal person >it's too hard!!
Good
Is this bait? If you do proper form and don't lift load more weight than you can handle squats are extremely safe. Worst comes to worst you can just drop the weight off your back. With a leg press you are completely locked in. It sounds like you have no ankle hip and knee mobility. Most likely get mogged hard if you tried playing a sport.
>you can load it up far more than most body builder you see can squat
If this was nearly any other exercise, i could understand but the squat is arguably the easiest safety wise. It's literally just going down and up. Weight's to heavy? Just throw it off you, or drop to the floor and let the safeties catch the barbell. Biggest risk, just don't hyperextend your knees as with any exercise and keep your neck upright.
If you're squatting on the guillotine(smith machine) then fine, but outside of that there isn't really an excuse beyond you not liking it.
>because of the high risk of injury
you're way more likely to severely hurt yourself doing leg press than squats
just go into any rekt thread and count the number of leg press webms in comparison to the number of squat webms
and then even subtract the squat webs where it's a retard not using safeties because those won't apply to you if you're not retarded
dude you're joking but i think someone legitimately shit and/or pissed on it a few months ago
i was doing legs and it smelled funky as fuck in that area
probably some loose roastie unable to hold it in any longer from decades of shoving increasingly larger objects in her holes
Why not smith machine squats?
You can do those after squats to finish off your legs
You can change the foot placement easily.
You can use it for other exercises.
OP is a gay, this is now a bulgarian split squat thread. Show your appreciation for this based exercise ITT
>snaps your shit
How exactly?
>you can’t fail this safely with weight on your back, you have to drop it on your leg
Can’t you just use the safety pins in the squat rack?
>Can’t you just use the safety pins in the squat rack?
yup you can, people are just retards lol
>use safeties
>still stuck because you can't move your leg off the bench
>insane quad and balance gains at the cost of your will to live
*gives you the worst DOMS of your life week after week*
Because I only have squat stands gay
Because squats load your spine and fuck up your shoulders and bench. Next question.
if your goal is quad hypertrophy, then you have no reason to do squats over leg press
if your goal is general strength, as well as developing more muscle groups than just your quads, squats are better
>build hips, glutes and quads with leg press, build hips, glutes, low back and hammies with RDLs
voila, you have built the squat without squatting.
>build hips, glutes and quads with squats, build hips, glutes, low back and hammies with RDLs
voila, you have built the leg press without leg pressing.
you don't even lift.
I agree on the quad extensions and leg curls because they hit the legs from different insertion points, but I think the adductor machine is rather useless.
>calves
if you have time to spend training calves then you have too much free time lel
>you don't even lift.
You literally outed yourself as someone who doesn't lift in your own fucking post lmao
>I agree on the quad extensions and leg curls because they hit the legs from different insertion points, but I think the adductor machine is rather useless.
Adductors are a larger muscle group than the hamstrings, but training your hamstrings is fine while adductors is a waste of time? Interesting
>>if you have time to spend training calves then you have too much free time lel
>training a muscle that takes literally 5 minutes to hit is a waste of time
What
You hit the hips adequately with leg press and a hinge.
>doesn't know about the functions of the hammies
>calls me dyel
educate yourself mr. sub 4pl8 deadlift
>You hit the hips adequately with leg press and a hinge.
You're not performing the main function of the adductors (adduction) particularly well on either of these, unless you're doing 6-8 sets of wide-stance squatting/leg pressing 2x a week. Never got sore adductors until I actually started isolating them (and I also stopped getting groin tweaks, very thankful for that)
>doesn't know about the functions of the hammies
>calls me dyel
I never said that you shouldn't isolate the hamstrings through knee flexion (I personally do nordic curls twice a week, no machine leg curls bc home gym), but you're the one saying that you shouldn't isolate the adductors through adduction. What are you even trying to say?
most bodybuilders i know genuinely train like this, it definitely works
add in some quad extensions, hamstring curls, and machine adductor squeezes, and your legs are decently covered
don't bother training calves, they're all genetics zzzzz
>don't bother training calves, they're all genetics zzzzz
how could you be so wrong about something in the year 2016+7 AD
post calves
wrong
not him but
I built my calves abusing weighted stretch. What matters for calf growth is not trying to take the tendon out of the picture lol. What matters is training them all the fucking time, constantly. The 2 groups known for having big calves are runners and fat retards. Both of them "abuse" the tendon, it's how the muscle is supposed to work you retard. I train calves every time I lift, either with heavy AF bouncing calf raises or heavy carries.
>inb4 b-but muh science bro
Post calves and let's see who's methods are superior.
**I built my calves IGNORING weighted stretch
I built my calves by being a fat retard, this is the truth.
He won't post calves cuz his calves look like shit because he spent more time reading about the science than he did getting jacked
hello bro wakey wakey post ur calves
HELLO DYEL
Or i could just squat
>doing multiple substitutes to do what you can do with one exercise
Why?
Are you just scared of having a barbell on your back? You get used to the feel, you know.
It's for gays
oh, so it is IST approved.
Tom Platz said the leg press is a waste of time.
Hint: a lift carefully designed to let you lift as much weight as possible will probably not be the best lift to get bigger muscles.
Take all the tren in the world and do hundreds of 20-rep-set squats. You will never look like Platz.
Because some fat fuck or roastie is always on the machine
I don't enjoy doing squats because of the high risk of injury alongside feeling like I'll fall forward once hitting proper depth. It's honestly just a scary exercise overall and leg press helps negate that stress by allowing you to sit down and take it at your own pace with much less severe consequences for messing up. You can instantly rack the weight at any point by adjusting the handles inward, you can load it up far more than most body builder you see can squat, and it's comfortable being able to sit down and have your back spread across the seat's surface rather than wobble uncontrollably while you would squatting. Never understood those that don't like the leg press, but all the power to them for being able to endure the possible issues that squatting would bring
>cope
>I don't enjoy doing squats because of the high risk of injury alongside feeling like I'll fall forward once hitting proper depth.
Just do them with a slow eccentric and pause at the bottom of each rep lol. Also use safeties like a normal person
>it's too hard!!
Good
Is this bait? If you do proper form and don't lift load more weight than you can handle squats are extremely safe. Worst comes to worst you can just drop the weight off your back. With a leg press you are completely locked in. It sounds like you have no ankle hip and knee mobility. Most likely get mogged hard if you tried playing a sport.
>you can load it up far more than most body builder you see can squat
If this was nearly any other exercise, i could understand but the squat is arguably the easiest safety wise. It's literally just going down and up. Weight's to heavy? Just throw it off you, or drop to the floor and let the safeties catch the barbell. Biggest risk, just don't hyperextend your knees as with any exercise and keep your neck upright.
If you're squatting on the guillotine(smith machine) then fine, but outside of that there isn't really an excuse beyond you not liking it.
>because of the high risk of injury
you're way more likely to severely hurt yourself doing leg press than squats
just go into any rekt thread and count the number of leg press webms in comparison to the number of squat webms
and then even subtract the squat webs where it's a retard not using safeties because those won't apply to you if you're not retarded
Leg press is worse for your spine than squats.
Is there ever a reason to do leg press if you have access to a hack squat machine?
No
Leg press is just hack squat customized to be easier
Because putting on 10+ 45's is annoying
i do both because i'm not a dyel retard
Helps me poop, usually on the machine
dude you're joking but i think someone legitimately shit and/or pissed on it a few months ago
i was doing legs and it smelled funky as fuck in that area
probably some loose roastie unable to hold it in any longer from decades of shoving increasingly larger objects in her holes
squat racks at my gym are always occupied so I switch to leg press.
Why not smith machine squats?
You can do those after squats to finish off your legs
You can change the foot placement easily.
You can use it for other exercises.
>smith machine squats?
like this?
>let me just post a retard
no, not like that.
Those are smith machine suicides.