Tried his methods but my workouts were taking only 20 mins twice a week and I got bored fast. Also lost pump most days and people were asking if I quit gym
>muh pump
I think most that have a problem with his method is they don't understand what full intensity is. I rarely ever see someone in the gym using full intensity
Yeah, I do it every workout at least on the last set. Alone. (Home gym masterrace.) Still haven't necked myself, and I'm using a $60 Amazon bench an a $80 half rack with safeties only 5'' long. But they do the job.
If someone takes a ton of steroids they know that their bodies are beyond what is naturally possible and that people will eat up whatever bogus "secret method" they use and buy their books and supps or whatever
The thing with Hollywood or even kayfabe is that you must maintain an illusion
If the audience does not know the truth, they just believe their eyes
And sometimes, they will suspend their disbelief, just to be entertained
People didn't know about dbol they just new Arnold and co. were frickin huge
That's enough to become a massive celebrity than pivot into public office
Hollywood, establishment politics, it's all a big theater for make believe
A modern politician is not that different from an actor who reads his lines on cue
>People didn't know about dbol they just knew Arnold and co. were frickin huge
And now they take these crazy suicidal stacks and clot shots, it's become more and more chemical and less and less human.
What makes strength impressive is that it requires hard work, but hormone manufacture changed that. Weimar Germany already had hormone manufacture and invented the ideology of modern transsexualism but all that stopped after fascism.
Shit is complicated, Germany is complicated. His dad was a nazi or something but my family was refugees from nazi Germany. Still think that antisemitism is wrong. Being German means you inherit a complicated and fricked up history.
Natural bodybuilding is actually impressive though.
>Natural, drug tested bodybuilding
Completely impossible to implement. Here's what would happen:
1) roiders roid for 4-5 years like motherfrickers,
2) stop roiding 2 months before testing,
3) test clean,
4) participate in """natural""" bodybuilding competition.
Yeah, but it's something at least. Some people are just honest and have great genetics. I know a bodybuilder that were still winning competitions at the age of 50. He did natty competitions, but looking back, he may have abused steroids in the decades before. Knew others who just hopped on HGH and ended up looking like Rich Piana.
>Natural, drug tested bodybuilding
Exists and nobody wants to watch it. Bodybuilding/physique is only appealing because it's like Top Fuel drag-racing - autistically dedicated people making a no-holds-barred effort at making something cartoonish and impractical and extreme.
I think the key behind HITs (except for gear of course) is to do many different exercises with low volume, takich each to failure or close to failure. This kind of approach has been working well for me, I was developing strength in many various movements despite doing just one set of each once a week. There's definitely something on point for this method.
It seems like everyone who actually tries it gets results. >muh advice from a roider
I'd argue you can't match most roiders workout plans of 6 days a week as a natty. Mike trained mostly nattys and he saw results with his method with people who never got results before.
Each exercise is performed only once a week and only for one set. To use a blunt example: >Monday
Exercise A - 1s x F
Exercise B - 1s x F
Exercise C - 1s x F
Exercise D - 1s x F
Exercise E - 1s x F
etc. >Wednesday
Exercise F - 1s x F
Exercise G - 1s x F
Exercise H - 1s x F
Exercise I - 1s x F
Exercise J - 1s x F
etc etc.
Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. More details are needed. For starters: how much weight are you using? 70% of your 1RM? 80%? Usually how many reps can you do?
Could I seriously only do 1 set of benchpress per week and see gains as long as it was to total red-in-the-face failure?
1 year ago
Anonymous
depends on the exercise
I'd say try to do at least north of 8 reps and then after taking like 5-10 breaths start again and grind as many as you can and you can call it a day, don't try that shit on BP if you don't have a spotter though
1 year ago
Anonymous
>8 reps and then after taking like 5-10 breaths start again
Ah, so stop-and-go reps. Makes more sense already. It's basically impossible to fully exhaust yourself on a single regular set. I can push until I feel like dying, but if I rest 3 minutes, I can do at least 5-6 more reps, so I wasn't fully exhausted. But stop-and-go sets are brutal.
>don't try that shit on BP if you don't have a spotter though
Spotters are gay. I always lift alone on my $60 amazon bench, with my $12 barbell and my $80 half rack with tiny 5 inches safeties. Death is afraid of me.
1 year ago
Anonymous
6-10 reps is the range you shoot for to fail on. Then if you can, throw in a negative or two
1 year ago
Anonymous
I usually do that on my last set, to fully exaust myself. First 3-4 normal sets, then on the last set I go all out, huff and puff and grind like a mofo. Usually the last rep takes 5-7 seconds. Then I rest 10-20 seconds and squeeze one or two more.
You telling me I could simply do that one last set and get the same gains or better?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>You telling me I could simply do that one last set and get the same gains or better?
That's the idea. If you are working chest, for example, you would do enough of one exercise to feel warmed up. Then you do 1 set for 1 or two exercises to complete failure. Take at least a week of rest for each body part. You could experiment with resting longer if you stop getting stronger every workout
1 year ago
Anonymous
>resting longer if you stop getting stronger every workout
This is the opposite of the usual suggestion of "just bench more bro".
1 year ago
Anonymous
yeah, it might seem counterintuitive, but it's real, basically it degrades any work (beyond the one set where you reach deep fatigue) to junk volume, same with attempting to do this exercise again after less than 7 days
it starts making more once you actually do this kind of training - you realize doing 3 half assed or grinded sets could be a waste of time or overdoing it and the paradigm behind volume work is kinda stale
1 year ago
Anonymous
Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. More details are needed. For starters: how much weight are you using? 70% of your 1RM? 80%? Usually how many reps can you do?
Could I seriously only do 1 set of benchpress per week and see gains as long as it was to total red-in-the-face failure?
also want to add that 6-10 reps is just a general guideline. If you know right away you're not getting 6, just do as many as you can. And if you do more then 10, keep going until you can't. Idea being that the last rep of complete effort is what is best at stimulating growth
So that single set needs to have 24 reps?? How light a weight do you need to use?
1 year ago
Anonymous
Sometimes I just take the bar and do 75-100 reps
1 year ago
Anonymous
no one said you have to do 24 reps, I think if you managed to do 24 (even including rest pauses), then you're ready to up the weight
I think there's a sweet spot between 15 and 20 (not only in lifting).
>You’re probably doing them wrong
Not him but I have discovered the ideal way to do pullups >start in a full dead hang with shoulders behind ears >depress scapula while keeping arms mostly straight, flex shoulders slightly >pull chin over the bar (touch clavicle to bar for bonus points) and pause for a second or two >descend with a slow eccentric, depress scapula again on the way down if they elevated on the way up >return to the same position as >depress scapula while keeping arms mostly straight, flex shoulders slightly >let your scapula elevate, and extend your shoulders more so that your shoulders are now behind your ears. pause for a second or two >repeat
Yes this is autistic as frick but now I get a mega pump in my lats when I used to never feel my lats on pullups at all.
Dunno what to tell you, maybe I have better genetics than you.
>You’re probably doing them wrong
Not him but I have discovered the ideal way to do pullups >start in a full dead hang with shoulders behind ears >depress scapula while keeping arms mostly straight, flex shoulders slightly >pull chin over the bar (touch clavicle to bar for bonus points) and pause for a second or two >descend with a slow eccentric, depress scapula again on the way down if they elevated on the way up >return to the same position as >depress scapula while keeping arms mostly straight, flex shoulders slightly >let your scapula elevate, and extend your shoulders more so that your shoulders are now behind your ears. pause for a second or two >repeat
Yes this is autistic as frick but now I get a mega pump in my lats when I used to never feel my lats on pullups at all.
Of all the godfricked posts in this godraped place, I just had to stumble upon yours. This is the most autistic, most infuriatingly abnormal bullshit I've ever fricking read on a website that is lowkey funded by the government to act as a neckbeard autist containment zone, so maybe some of you mouthbreathers won't shoot up a school, being too busy arguing about which waifu would give the best footjobs if waifus were real and you had a dick long enough for footjobs.
Your bullshit singlehandedly managed to ruin my fricking day by reminding me that yes, mongoloids like you actually exist, you live among us, I have to share my air with you, and it's not legal to eradicate you from the gene pool.
Thanks a lot, trisomic non fren.
(Joking, I do them like that as well. Keep hustling, king.)
>Of all the godfricked posts in this godraped place, I just had to stumble upon yours. This is the most autistic, most infuriatingly abnormal bullshit I've ever fricking read on a website that is lowkey funded by the government to act as a neckbeard autist containment zone, so maybe some of you mouthbreathers won't shoot up a school, being too busy arguing about which waifu would give the best footjobs if waifus were real and you had a dick long enough for footjobs. >Your bullshit singlehandedly managed to ruin my fricking day by reminding me that yes, mongoloids like you actually exist, you live among us, I have to share my air with you, and it's not legal to eradicate you from the gene pool. >Thanks a lot, trisomic non fren. >(Joking, I do them like that as well. Keep hustling, king.)
Thanks anon, your creative writing skills are quite good! Very impressive
>You’re probably doing them wrong
Not him but I have discovered the ideal way to do pullups >start in a full dead hang with shoulders behind ears >depress scapula while keeping arms mostly straight, flex shoulders slightly >pull chin over the bar (touch clavicle to bar for bonus points) and pause for a second or two >descend with a slow eccentric, depress scapula again on the way down if they elevated on the way up >return to the same position as >depress scapula while keeping arms mostly straight, flex shoulders slightly >let your scapula elevate, and extend your shoulders more so that your shoulders are now behind your ears. pause for a second or two >repeat
Yes this is autistic as frick but now I get a mega pump in my lats when I used to never feel my lats on pullups at all.
Why the FRICK can't I do free-hang pullups? I use to but then one day my body like fricking forgot how to engage those muscles in my back. I can do lat pulldowns and chinups just fine but have me hanging off a bar for a pullup and it's like I forgot.
Unironically it makes me feel like I'm not engaging the right muscle groups I'm supposed to be.
Hamstrings get neglected until they rear their ugly head. Doing deadlifts instead of squats would provide a more balanced physique. Or better yet trap bar deads. But why boil down lifting? Its already a boiling down of real human movements. 3 patterns cannot capture all movement patterns in perfect balance.
Not him (and I think that routine is fricking moronic anyway lmao) but are you seriously out of breath for 6 minutes after a set of pullups? I superset incline larsen press and weighted pullups with 1 min rest between sets and my breathing doesn't even get elevated. If you think that 3 minutes of rest turns the movement into "cardio" then I'm sorry, but you have dogshit work capacity that you should fix immediately.
>Do you rest 2-3 minutes between sets of squats?
I use longer intervals on squats because I get absurdly out of breath due to how long the sets take even though I'm in the 4-8 rep range (since I do 1 and 1/2 reps while pausing at the bottom as well as using a slow eccentric. Fricking brutal), and also because I superset them with nordic curls. In this case I can justify longer intervals, but for upper body I just superset presses and pulls while using fairly short intervals, since the cardiovascular demand is fairly low even though I go to failure on all sets
Dude you're the guy who gets out of breath from a single set of pullups, I think you're the small one here. Damn I remember when I used to collapse out of breath after a set of 4 reps on pause squats when I was dyel, shit was awful lmao
Tried a DC routine for 6 weeks, now it's gonna be my 7 and I genuinely got stronger while cutting + it's worth mentioning I'm quite seasoned in lifting
>less
Not at all. HIT done correctly is not a lessening. It's a focusing. Strength is how much you can do at once so you should focus on doing it all at once.
This is the best currently known way to go about it. 3 sets with 15 seconds rest, half the reps on each consecutive set, it's basically one extended set.
The mythical 1 set to failure is ideal on paper but very difficult to correctly produce.
Look at all this single sentence spacing. Mentzer is definitely the Reddit of the golden era bodybuilders. I’m glad he’s dead. And for you dumbfricks who got lost on the way to r-fitness. Do you think you’re writing the Tao Te Ching or something? I can smell your femininity and softness in the space you’ve left between each of your gay ass sentences
>lift high volume for hours everyday for years >reduces training very late in his career >yeah guys just stop training so much and buy my book hahaha!!! that's totally how I got this physique!!! totallly not volume and steroids for 10 fricking syears hahaha
My body when only working out three times per week. 20 minutes per gym session. I walk in to see several smaller guys, train for 20 minutes and leave to see the same smaller guys still toiling away with high volume. They are mogged with HIT.
“B-b-but it’s scientifically proven that HIT is outdated! It’s been proven by the skinny scientists in laboratories! They are the real masters behind muscle growth!”
Cope harder. I train for 20 minutes and spend the rest of my day with my hot girlfriend or making more money with side hustles.
Strength continues to shoot up every week. Much faster than when I was wasting my time with high volume.
I’ll name one of my children Mike Mentzer. Heil Mentzer - the true ubermensch of bodybuilding.
>1 set to failure is optimal
why not just do 1 rep to failure by that logic, maximum intensity achieved, if you can do more than 1 rep then you're not training hard enough
that's what some powerlifters do and they make gains. The problem with only one rep is you either fail or you don't, so a buffer of about three reps is probably good
>that's what some powerlifters do and they make gains.
It doesn't put on any mass though, they do heavy singles to get better at doing heavy singles since that's what they're training for. If you ask any of them they'll tell you that 95% of their mass comes from their hypertrophy and strength phases, which are in higher rep ranges than the peaking phase.
>have you tried HIT
I do pseudo-HIT for my gastrocs (1 set to eccentric failure), however I do it 3x a week instead of 1x a week and they also get some diffuse volume from my leg days (especially from nordic curls). I've been seeing good results, however I don't think I would have gotten much growth if I was doing 1 set a week instead of 3, and I doubt it would work well on other muscles since it's very easy to stretch the shit out of the gastrocs. For example, I've been doing 4 sets of ghetto chest supported rows twice a week on top of other back work, and my upper back has been rapidly improving.
Low volume worked better for me than anything else. 2 sets per exercise, 2 exercises for bis, tris, hams, 3 for back, 3 for shoulders, 1 for chest, quads, abs & calves. Training volume is somewhat individual though. Some people might do well from twice as many sets as somebody else even if the training is just as hard
there's merit to it but really it's just a really drastic solution to avoid over training. If you followed a program with periodization and pro-actively scheduled deloads it's almost a non-issue. I think the problem is more people don't want to put in the brain work to actually learn training programming or aren't honest about their limits because they're impatient or whatever.
>train hard >fully recover >repeat
why is his message so controversial?
you don't need to waste time with junk volume just because some roidtrannies on youtube shorts told you to
his "one set" message was dogmatic hyperbole as a response to conventional bodybuilders insulting him for his unorthodox approach to training
I do a 6 day PPL. Every day is a major compound and two ancillary exercises. 3 sets for major and two sets each for the ancillaries. Every set is as close to failure as possible and I've been consistently making progress every week since I started this about a year ago. I work in construction too so it's not the only exercise I get, but still. It's not bad.
Drop sets reduce the intensity to add more sets. That's volume gaygery. Rest pause is more like extending the set while maintaining the intensity. That's HIT.
Tried his methods but my workouts were taking only 20 mins twice a week and I got bored fast. Also lost pump most days and people were asking if I quit gym
>muh pump
I think most that have a problem with his method is they don't understand what full intensity is. I rarely ever see someone in the gym using full intensity
>full intensity
Doesn't it mean to lift until you can't do another rep even while grunting and pushing red in the face?
yea, that's the idea. Gets kind of difficult without a spotter, but it can be done with safety bars for compounds
Yeah, I do it every workout at least on the last set. Alone. (Home gym masterrace.) Still haven't necked myself, and I'm using a $60 Amazon bench an a $80 half rack with safeties only 5'' long. But they do the job.
I have the most brutal pumps from HIT must not be going to actual failure. Also same here people ask where i've been but idc
>Work less
>Lose the Olympia
Yea worked out great for him
>muh secret formula
You make up any fricking routine you like if you're blasting gear. This is all you can take from this fraud.
Maturity is realizing that Arnold was a cheater
They kept it all lowkey when dbol hit the scene
If someone takes a ton of steroids they know that their bodies are beyond what is naturally possible and that people will eat up whatever bogus "secret method" they use and buy their books and supps or whatever
The thing with Hollywood or even kayfabe is that you must maintain an illusion
If the audience does not know the truth, they just believe their eyes
And sometimes, they will suspend their disbelief, just to be entertained
People didn't know about dbol they just new Arnold and co. were frickin huge
That's enough to become a massive celebrity than pivot into public office
Hollywood, establishment politics, it's all a big theater for make believe
A modern politician is not that different from an actor who reads his lines on cue
>People didn't know about dbol they just knew Arnold and co. were frickin huge
And now they take these crazy suicidal stacks and clot shots, it's become more and more chemical and less and less human.
What makes strength impressive is that it requires hard work, but hormone manufacture changed that. Weimar Germany already had hormone manufacture and invented the ideology of modern transsexualism but all that stopped after fascism.
Shit is complicated, Germany is complicated. His dad was a nazi or something but my family was refugees from nazi Germany. Still think that antisemitism is wrong. Being German means you inherit a complicated and fricked up history.
Natural bodybuilding is actually impressive though.
Arnie also had access to primo before alot of people
>follow roidtroony advice as a natty
Maturity is realizing that bodybuilding ended with the Silver Era.
It didn't end, it just mutated
Natural, drug tested bodybuilding is the antidote
That is actually impressive, spending crazy money on some crazy stack is not
>Natural, drug tested bodybuilding
Completely impossible to implement. Here's what would happen:
1) roiders roid for 4-5 years like motherfrickers,
2) stop roiding 2 months before testing,
3) test clean,
4) participate in """natural""" bodybuilding competition.
Yeah, but it's something at least. Some people are just honest and have great genetics. I know a bodybuilder that were still winning competitions at the age of 50. He did natty competitions, but looking back, he may have abused steroids in the decades before. Knew others who just hopped on HGH and ended up looking like Rich Piana.
I know a bodybuilder that was* still winning competitions at the age of 50
Most of them definitely blasted juice though
It was a national disappointment when Lance Amstrong tested positive for PEDs
Ironically, that might have been what gave him cancer
>Natural, drug tested bodybuilding
Exists and nobody wants to watch it. Bodybuilding/physique is only appealing because it's like Top Fuel drag-racing - autistically dedicated people making a no-holds-barred effort at making something cartoonish and impractical and extreme.
Yeah, natural bb is a moronic meme. People don't want to watch the guy with a healthy approach based on good sense. They want the freak show.
>guy with the healthy approach
There's nothing healthy about cutting down to 5% bodyfat and dehydrating yourself regardless of if you're natty or not.
On it, bro.
>trying to match guys with capped delts, developed pecs, and giant traps with just squats and BP
Literally never gonna make it. At the very least you need heavy shrugs and core isolations
I think the key behind HITs (except for gear of course) is to do many different exercises with low volume, takich each to failure or close to failure. This kind of approach has been working well for me, I was developing strength in many various movements despite doing just one set of each once a week. There's definitely something on point for this method.
It seems like everyone who actually tries it gets results.
>muh advice from a roider
I'd argue you can't match most roiders workout plans of 6 days a week as a natty. Mike trained mostly nattys and he saw results with his method with people who never got results before.
>just one set of each once a week
The frick?
Each exercise is performed only once a week and only for one set. To use a blunt example:
>Monday
Exercise A - 1s x F
Exercise B - 1s x F
Exercise C - 1s x F
Exercise D - 1s x F
Exercise E - 1s x F
etc.
>Wednesday
Exercise F - 1s x F
Exercise G - 1s x F
Exercise H - 1s x F
Exercise I - 1s x F
Exercise J - 1s x F
etc etc.
needs more rest days
Just squeeze another day between Monday and Tuesday.
>he doesn't train on Monday and 3/4th.
Wait, wait, wait. Hold on. More details are needed. For starters: how much weight are you using? 70% of your 1RM? 80%? Usually how many reps can you do?
Could I seriously only do 1 set of benchpress per week and see gains as long as it was to total red-in-the-face failure?
depends on the exercise
I'd say try to do at least north of 8 reps and then after taking like 5-10 breaths start again and grind as many as you can and you can call it a day, don't try that shit on BP if you don't have a spotter though
>8 reps and then after taking like 5-10 breaths start again
Ah, so stop-and-go reps. Makes more sense already. It's basically impossible to fully exhaust yourself on a single regular set. I can push until I feel like dying, but if I rest 3 minutes, I can do at least 5-6 more reps, so I wasn't fully exhausted. But stop-and-go sets are brutal.
>don't try that shit on BP if you don't have a spotter though
Spotters are gay. I always lift alone on my $60 amazon bench, with my $12 barbell and my $80 half rack with tiny 5 inches safeties. Death is afraid of me.
6-10 reps is the range you shoot for to fail on. Then if you can, throw in a negative or two
I usually do that on my last set, to fully exaust myself. First 3-4 normal sets, then on the last set I go all out, huff and puff and grind like a mofo. Usually the last rep takes 5-7 seconds. Then I rest 10-20 seconds and squeeze one or two more.
You telling me I could simply do that one last set and get the same gains or better?
>You telling me I could simply do that one last set and get the same gains or better?
That's the idea. If you are working chest, for example, you would do enough of one exercise to feel warmed up. Then you do 1 set for 1 or two exercises to complete failure. Take at least a week of rest for each body part. You could experiment with resting longer if you stop getting stronger every workout
>resting longer if you stop getting stronger every workout
This is the opposite of the usual suggestion of "just bench more bro".
yeah, it might seem counterintuitive, but it's real, basically it degrades any work (beyond the one set where you reach deep fatigue) to junk volume, same with attempting to do this exercise again after less than 7 days
it starts making more once you actually do this kind of training - you realize doing 3 half assed or grinded sets could be a waste of time or overdoing it and the paradigm behind volume work is kinda stale
also want to add that 6-10 reps is just a general guideline. If you know right away you're not getting 6, just do as many as you can. And if you do more then 10, keep going until you can't. Idea being that the last rep of complete effort is what is best at stimulating growth
>bro you can’t just do 24 reps bro listen to me you need to split it up a bunch you get better gains bro please
So that single set needs to have 24 reps?? How light a weight do you need to use?
Sometimes I just take the bar and do 75-100 reps
no one said you have to do 24 reps, I think if you managed to do 24 (even including rest pauses), then you're ready to up the weight
I think there's a sweet spot between 15 and 20 (not only in lifting).
>capped delts,
Incline bench gave me round delts without any need for isolation. They're not cannonballs, but who cares, apart from roid trannies?
>developed pecs
Bench.
>giant traps
Pullups for some reason gave me nice traps.
>core isolations
Never did it. Have a 6 pack.
L-shaped pullups are brutal on the abs.
Incline bench would only touch front delts and have minimal development in side/rear delts
>incline only
Would leave mid/lower pec underdeveloped
>pull-ups give traps
You’re probably doing them wrong
>six pack
All the models listed have developed obliques too
>You’re probably doing them wrong
Not him but I have discovered the ideal way to do pullups
>start in a full dead hang with shoulders behind ears
>depress scapula while keeping arms mostly straight, flex shoulders slightly
>pull chin over the bar (touch clavicle to bar for bonus points) and pause for a second or two
>descend with a slow eccentric, depress scapula again on the way down if they elevated on the way up
>return to the same position as >depress scapula while keeping arms mostly straight, flex shoulders slightly
>let your scapula elevate, and extend your shoulders more so that your shoulders are now behind your ears. pause for a second or two
>repeat
Yes this is autistic as frick but now I get a mega pump in my lats when I used to never feel my lats on pullups at all.
Dunno what to tell you, maybe I have better genetics than you.
Of all the godfricked posts in this godraped place, I just had to stumble upon yours. This is the most autistic, most infuriatingly abnormal bullshit I've ever fricking read on a website that is lowkey funded by the government to act as a neckbeard autist containment zone, so maybe some of you mouthbreathers won't shoot up a school, being too busy arguing about which waifu would give the best footjobs if waifus were real and you had a dick long enough for footjobs.
Your bullshit singlehandedly managed to ruin my fricking day by reminding me that yes, mongoloids like you actually exist, you live among us, I have to share my air with you, and it's not legal to eradicate you from the gene pool.
Thanks a lot, trisomic non fren.
(Joking, I do them like that as well. Keep hustling, king.)
>Of all the godfricked posts in this godraped place, I just had to stumble upon yours. This is the most autistic, most infuriatingly abnormal bullshit I've ever fricking read on a website that is lowkey funded by the government to act as a neckbeard autist containment zone, so maybe some of you mouthbreathers won't shoot up a school, being too busy arguing about which waifu would give the best footjobs if waifus were real and you had a dick long enough for footjobs.
>Your bullshit singlehandedly managed to ruin my fricking day by reminding me that yes, mongoloids like you actually exist, you live among us, I have to share my air with you, and it's not legal to eradicate you from the gene pool.
>Thanks a lot, trisomic non fren.
>(Joking, I do them like that as well. Keep hustling, king.)
Thanks anon, your creative writing skills are quite good! Very impressive
Why the FRICK can't I do free-hang pullups? I use to but then one day my body like fricking forgot how to engage those muscles in my back. I can do lat pulldowns and chinups just fine but have me hanging off a bar for a pullup and it's like I forgot.
Unironically it makes me feel like I'm not engaging the right muscle groups I'm supposed to be.
Hamstrings get neglected until they rear their ugly head. Doing deadlifts instead of squats would provide a more balanced physique. Or better yet trap bar deads. But why boil down lifting? Its already a boiling down of real human movements. 3 patterns cannot capture all movement patterns in perfect balance.
That's so stupid. Why do you limit rest between sets? Is this a cardio routine?
Not him (and I think that routine is fricking moronic anyway lmao) but are you seriously out of breath for 6 minutes after a set of pullups? I superset incline larsen press and weighted pullups with 1 min rest between sets and my breathing doesn't even get elevated. If you think that 3 minutes of rest turns the movement into "cardio" then I'm sorry, but you have dogshit work capacity that you should fix immediately.
What's the rush? Do you rest 2-3 minutes between sets of squats?
>Do you rest 2-3 minutes between sets of squats?
I use longer intervals on squats because I get absurdly out of breath due to how long the sets take even though I'm in the 4-8 rep range (since I do 1 and 1/2 reps while pausing at the bottom as well as using a slow eccentric. Fricking brutal), and also because I superset them with nordic curls. In this case I can justify longer intervals, but for upper body I just superset presses and pulls while using fairly short intervals, since the cardiovascular demand is fairly low even though I go to failure on all sets
I bet you look small
Dude you're the guy who gets out of breath from a single set of pullups, I think you're the small one here. Damn I remember when I used to collapse out of breath after a set of 4 reps on pause squats when I was dyel, shit was awful lmao
>I bet you look small
>limit rest between sets
3 minutes of rest is plenty. Increase it to 5 minutes if you want, each session isn't gonna take more than 20 minutes anyway.
>5 sets with 3 minute rests
>cardio
What kind of octuagenarian are you?
Power to the people did this better 20+ years ago. Easy Strength does it better now.
yes
orthodox hit training is fricking boring
I think this is the reason it's not tried more. Imagine telling a body builder to only work out 3 days a week for 30-45 min
Everyone talks about Mike but what about Ray?
I guess they were like Mario and Luigi.
What was Ray known for?
he was stronger and bigger than mike according to people that trained with him
He didn't even follow his own advice. Why should I listen to that homosexual?
I'll fricking fight you.
Tried a DC routine for 6 weeks, now it's gonna be my 7 and I genuinely got stronger while cutting + it's worth mentioning I'm quite seasoned in lifting
>less
Not at all. HIT done correctly is not a lessening. It's a focusing. Strength is how much you can do at once so you should focus on doing it all at once.
This is the best currently known way to go about it. 3 sets with 15 seconds rest, half the reps on each consecutive set, it's basically one extended set.
The mythical 1 set to failure is ideal on paper but very difficult to correctly produce.
What if you can't do a single rep in any of these additional sets?
Then you have achieved the single set to failure.
Look at all this single sentence spacing. Mentzer is definitely the Reddit of the golden era bodybuilders. I’m glad he’s dead. And for you dumbfricks who got lost on the way to r-fitness. Do you think you’re writing the Tao Te Ching or something? I can smell your femininity and softness in the space you’ve left between each of your gay ass sentences
I'm OP and I haven't typed one reply with reddit spacing. If that's your only argument, it's pretty weak, homosexual
You would be my b***h in prison OP. And you would love it
T-tell me more.
He took meth as a pre workout and was a based Nietzschean. Don’t call him reddit again
>roidtroony guru's gimmick method is the truth!
No.
I can’t listen to anyone who does roids cause I can’t expect the same results
Same with creat users
no thanks, I'm not on roids so your advice doesn't work.
yes just follow the 6 day a week plans that most roiders use, smart
6 times is also for roiders.
>taking advice from any other roidtroony besides Platz
That’s your mistake
>Work out less.
>take more roids
cant argue with that
Doing less to gain more is more for beginners. This is like thinking working part time for your whole is going to get you full time pay
>lift high volume for hours everyday for years
>reduces training very late in his career
>yeah guys just stop training so much and buy my book hahaha!!! that's totally how I got this physique!!! totallly not volume and steroids for 10 fricking syears hahaha
I can't do this shit. My stomach is way to weak for this shit, i almost always feel like puking.
Work out smarter.
My body when only working out three times per week. 20 minutes per gym session. I walk in to see several smaller guys, train for 20 minutes and leave to see the same smaller guys still toiling away with high volume. They are mogged with HIT.
“B-b-but it’s scientifically proven that HIT is outdated! It’s been proven by the skinny scientists in laboratories! They are the real masters behind muscle growth!”
Cope harder. I train for 20 minutes and spend the rest of my day with my hot girlfriend or making more money with side hustles.
Strength continues to shoot up every week. Much faster than when I was wasting my time with high volume.
I’ll name one of my children Mike Mentzer. Heil Mentzer - the true ubermensch of bodybuilding.
Brother we can barely see anything the camera is zoomed in. Take a fricking normal picture
I’m in my car brother. It was a post workout pump. Wasn’t zoomed. Anyway, what more do you want to see? My wiener too? Would that satisfy you?
You're the one posting his body on a male fitness forum, homo
>that pic
>20 minutes per gym session
I could tell
You forgot to attach your body pic to the post.
Here you go bro
Sorry, this one was too big, here is another one
>Verification not required.
Real fun. Post a pic of you, not of some flabby dyel.
Sorry, I have only flabby DYELs photoes, here is another one
OOOOOOH SNAP
OH NO HE DIDN'T
>FART
>FART
STOP FARTING IN MY THREAD YOU FARTING FRICK
>FART
FRICK FRICK FRICK I GAMBLED AND LOST
NOOOOOOOOOO STOP IT
STOP IT NOW
You're also forgot to attach your body pic
GOOD MORNING SER
HOW IS TIME IN GLORIOUS MUMBAY?
>fart
I havent made an argument to attach it to.
>1 set to failure is optimal
why not just do 1 rep to failure by that logic, maximum intensity achieved, if you can do more than 1 rep then you're not training hard enough
that's what some powerlifters do and they make gains. The problem with only one rep is you either fail or you don't, so a buffer of about three reps is probably good
>that's what some powerlifters do and they make gains.
It doesn't put on any mass though, they do heavy singles to get better at doing heavy singles since that's what they're training for. If you ask any of them they'll tell you that 95% of their mass comes from their hypertrophy and strength phases, which are in higher rep ranges than the peaking phase.
have you tried HIT, or do you just love the gym experience so much it pains you not to try it?
>have you tried HIT
I do pseudo-HIT for my gastrocs (1 set to eccentric failure), however I do it 3x a week instead of 1x a week and they also get some diffuse volume from my leg days (especially from nordic curls). I've been seeing good results, however I don't think I would have gotten much growth if I was doing 1 set a week instead of 3, and I doubt it would work well on other muscles since it's very easy to stretch the shit out of the gastrocs. For example, I've been doing 4 sets of ghetto chest supported rows twice a week on top of other back work, and my upper back has been rapidly improving.
pic related did only 1 set a week on the big 3 and nothing else
220lbs 5'9 shredded
285lbs bulk maxed
Low volume worked better for me than anything else. 2 sets per exercise, 2 exercises for bis, tris, hams, 3 for back, 3 for shoulders, 1 for chest, quads, abs & calves. Training volume is somewhat individual though. Some people might do well from twice as many sets as somebody else even if the training is just as hard
there's merit to it but really it's just a really drastic solution to avoid over training. If you followed a program with periodization and pro-actively scheduled deloads it's almost a non-issue. I think the problem is more people don't want to put in the brain work to actually learn training programming or aren't honest about their limits because they're impatient or whatever.
This guy used meth as a preworkout, and either started out gay, or was turned gay by drugs:
How do HITgays answer the accusation that the system is nothing but a marketing ploy developed by Arthur Jones to develop nautilus machines
>explaining how the machines work and how it's conducive to forcing muscle mass adaptation
>marketing ploy
there's nothing to answer to if the method is actually working
>train hard
>fully recover
>repeat
why is his message so controversial?
you don't need to waste time with junk volume just because some roidtrannies on youtube shorts told you to
his "one set" message was dogmatic hyperbole as a response to conventional bodybuilders insulting him for his unorthodox approach to training
HIT has been deboonked
I do a 6 day PPL. Every day is a major compound and two ancillary exercises. 3 sets for major and two sets each for the ancillaries. Every set is as close to failure as possible and I've been consistently making progress every week since I started this about a year ago. I work in construction too so it's not the only exercise I get, but still. It's not bad.
No. I love working out, I love pushing weights and I spend 1.5-3 hours in the gym daily because I'm a NEET
>Work out less.
How about no.
rest pause or drop sets? what do you think mentzer chads?
Drop sets reduce the intensity to add more sets. That's volume gaygery. Rest pause is more like extending the set while maintaining the intensity. That's HIT.
Gonna try this on my next chest day. Larsen press, same weight I normally do 8 reps with, but a single drawn out rest-pause set.