you have to clear your mind first in order to see how much weed you should consume, but nobody has a clear mind any more.
this guy is still believing in studies... bro can you wake up any time soon?
Porn is bad for you, like any other drug.
You are a slave to your urges and generate money for the people who use you.
I actually dont, atleast not in large amounts. I like myself a jelly donut time to time, but i stopped eating chocolate and shit a long time ago because it gave me acne. I even drink my coffee without sugar, and i rarely drink coffee. Salty things are my go to
I don't care if you do drugs
feel free to do more if you want
the more you fall the higher I rise
why should I care about the well being of others when it doesn't benefit me?
legalize crack all i care
The funny part is a lot of the appeal for marihuana was the outsider status. The appeal of being rebellious always helps glorify a product, lifestyle or idea to thise who seek it, namely younger adults seeking for an identity outside of their parents, family or community.
Once it became legalized and accepted mainstream it took a tremendous amou t of that appeal away. Now people just see it as another form of self medication and are more focused on the what people who use it look like as a reality rather than a caricature.
The result is that it makes you look like a lethargic, slow and even dull if abused. It's like alcohol, once prohibition was removed the undercool of it evaporated.
Weed really was fun back in the day due to the culture that surrounded it. Being a stoner in the early 2000s was awesome. I was also a highschooler at the time, so that's probably why.
what was the main conclusion other than its bad for your health in general? From experience I know its bad for lung health and also with inducing anxiety. There is a certain threshold, which is extremely low, where weed gives a very relaxing feeling. But I am talking about a very small intake of this stuff.
I know there was another similar study done on alcohol and how it actually improves cognitive abilities at a extremely small dosage. Beyond this threshold, there is significant reduction in cognitive abilities as well as damage to general health
>lung health >dopamine overload >cannabinoid overload >lowers test >annihilates sleep
inb4 "my test is fine" and "I sleep 15 hours a night bro I'm fine". If you are smoking even once a week it is too much. If you are smoking daily you are an addict.
aids sleep >>aids in my muscle recovery
Gonna need a heckin' sourcerino on that one there buddy. NB: Getting to sleep and quality of sleep are not the same thing. >ignores dopamine and cannabinoid overload
Twice a week is too much.
This is correct- incinerating something and breathing it into your lungs is TERRIBLE for you. Pitch all smoking/vaping shit in the trash asap. If you are gonna consume marijuana only consume it in edible form. However, the problem with this is that most companies are in a retarded arms race to create the strongest edibles ever and you eat one of these gummies and it’s like doing a DMT trip. So what I do and what I would suggest is buying gummies from Enjoy Hemp that are sold as “microdose”. I then take the “microdose” gummies and take two paper plates and dump the gummies out on one paper plate and use the other paper plate to carefully cut them in half and then put them back in the container. Be aware when you do this that if you do it bare handed and don’t use gloves you will get high as fuck because the live marijuana content is sprayed on the outside of the gummies and will absorb into your skin as you cut them up. Once you cut them all in half just take half of one at a time.
I figured some retards would say stuff like this. I’m old enough to be your father. Go ahead and blast yourself into outer space with the most powerful edibles on earth if you want doesn’t affect me. But the point I’m trying to make for anyone reading this with half a brain is that the edibles being produced today are FAR too strong. Then some jackass like you says basically “only fags would drink a lite beer, all I drink is straight moonshine from the still that makes me go blind and insane every night”. Well some of us here are adults with careers and responsibilities and benefit more from small doses rather than peering beyond the veil into another dimension every night.
>im going to respond as if I know something but i will backpedal when I get called out >kys
Thanks for doubling down on the fact you are dumber than stoners
>performing better
Literally every professional athlete out there smokes weed daily and a lot also abuse alcohol. They are all performing significantly better than you.
Don't blame weed for your lack of discipline. This is like blaming weed for failing a test instead of blaming it on the fact you never studied
Professional atheletes have been heroine addicts and outperformed us both, I guess heroine isn't bad for you.
Retard
https://i.imgur.com/ixcYSiq.png
Post body with timestamp, fren. You live so clean I'm sure you can inspire all the anons in the thread to cut out weed with your physique.
But you won't and you'll ignore this post, or you'll deflect and say "muh addict brain" because you're a doughboy
>heh I bet now you'll call me retarded
Yes. When in doubt, ask for nudes.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>I used performance as my main point for my argument but now I am going to backpedal and say performance has nothing to do with drugs at all
Are you stupid or what?
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>a person outperforming both of us on heroine could outperform themselves if they weren't on heroine, the level other people are at is irrelevant.
That was the point you absolute fucking retard. I'm out. No more (you)s for you
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>doesn't post body >doesn't have argument >no u no u I quit
I accept your concession. Adios, paco. Please don't give any more (you)s 🙂
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>You will get an edge on everyone who does drugs if you aren't doing drugs!
Is that why Ranoldo or whatever his straight edge name is didn't do so well in the world cup?
1. that was a different anon.
2. that same professional athlete would do better if they weren't addicted to heroin.
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are you actually saying that people in rehab don't acknowledge that the affect that the drugs had on their body and brain didn't play a part in their limited potential?
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^this is what i feel about that, that there is both free will and also circumstance that affects your potential and your actions, yea you have will power but having intense weed cravings and over all being mentally weaker is going to negatively affect your actions and decisions.
my room mate is quitting weed and nicotine right now and he's the most stressed out and helpless i've ever seen him in my entire life. weed and drugs in general limit your potential. life isn't about feeling good and having fun all the time.
>The professional would do better without drugs
No doubt but the argument is still flawed since you can get to world class levels on it and also outperform those who aren't even taking drugs.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
1. that was a different anon.
2. that same professional athlete would do better if they weren't addicted to heroin.
>where as if i never smoked weed i would have retained my natural ability to tune out how horrible things are
Im not downplaying your upbringing but come on dude. Even people in rehab take accountability for their own actions and actually improve themselves; they aren't blaming drugs for not being able to do something
are you actually saying that people in rehab don't acknowledge that the affect that the drugs had on their body and brain didn't play a part in their limited potential?
its not either or, if you had hypothermia would that limit your movement? your gonna let hypothermia dictate your every movement? or would it have an understandable impact on your movement?
likewise, if your using weed all the time, its obviously going to have an impact on your decisions and actions.
^this is what i feel about that, that there is both free will and also circumstance that affects your potential and your actions, yea you have will power but having intense weed cravings and over all being mentally weaker is going to negatively affect your actions and decisions.
my room mate is quitting weed and nicotine right now and he's the most stressed out and helpless i've ever seen him in my entire life. weed and drugs in general limit your potential. life isn't about feeling good and having fun all the time.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>the affect that the drugs had on their body and brain didn't play a part in their limited potential?
Im saying you have the ability to change your future when you are off it. Stop being a victim when you are already sober you dunce
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i like your attitude but you also gotta be realistic, the bulk of peoples ability to create a successful live for them selves happens between 15 and 35, if your spending a large portion of that time smoking weed and being a loser then its going to negatively affect yoru capacity to make money and make something of your life.
i haven't given up, but i should be in the height of my money making right now, and instead of studying all day like i should have been doing when i was fifteen. and its basically a waking nightmare, and i would be alot better off if i wasn't smoking weed for fifteen years, my family and public school and my community are also largely to blame, but weed was definitely a factor. i grew up in an area where weed culture was really strong, and its predatorial and dangerous to young people, because they get caught up in how cool and friendly and fun it all seems, and then they get addicted.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
I hope you realize there are a lot of losers out there that are completely sober. This is why I keep telling people to stop pretending to be victims when even sober people have the same exact results as drug addicts. The MAIN problem is that people don't want to grab their balls and just admit they were being weak soft pussies, then finally doing something they are afraid to do but know it brings great results.
Look Im sorry you wasted your youth and feel as though you are late. But the ACTUAL reality is that you still have time. Some dude who is 40 is just starting their first semester in college while you at like 20 or 30 something years old believes life is over already.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i can tell by your post that you smoke weed and thats why your super invested in arguing that actually i'm just a doomer.
i haven't given up on my self but its catostrophic to not acknowledge when somethign has been lost or wasted, or when something could not have gotten better.
the fact that tehre are sober people who are shitty doesn't mean that there for drugs don't make people shitty.
like holy shit.
Especially because if you examined that sober persons life, they probably have other vices, like idle entertainment, porn, sugary snacks, etc etc etc etc.
the guy who is just starting college at 40 is objectively worse off then a guy who is getting their act together at fifteen. weed does limit your lifes potential, thats a fact.
Not saying doing drugs is fine. Im saying you idiots are pretending you are somehow living a better life than some rich guy doing coke
that same rich guy who does coke would likely accomplish more with their life if they health maxxed and didn't do coke. drugs limit your potential.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>would likely accomplish more with their life >rich
I think you are missing the point that rich people are doing coke because they can. They aren't out here struggling to reach their goals
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
there are plenty of rich people who are depressed, i know a few, being rich doesn't mean its ok to coast and stop accomplish things, and you will accomplish more things if you don't do drugs. your mind will be stronger and more resilient to depression if you don't do drugs.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>there are plenty of rich people who are depressed
Both on drugs and without drugs. Look, you keep making these weird arguments where people who are doing much better than you in life are somehow doing worse than you in life simply because you are sober. There are literally poor fucks out there that wish they could be rich and doing coke off some sluts ass but they can't do that because they are being responsible and understanding how to move forward. They aren't looking back at their life telling themselves their life would be much better if they didn't smoke weed. They are looking back at their life and blaming themselves for not trying harder
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
bro, i get that you do hella drugs, but your straw manning like crazy and it shows that what i'm saying is making you hella insecure.
i didn't say that people who are doing better hten me in life are some how doing worse.
i'm saying, a person doing drugs, is doing worse then that same person would be doing if they weren't doing drugs. thats a fact. if you are doing drugs, your life would improve more if you were not doing drugs. instead of doing drugs, you could be learning a skill or developing your self in some way.
its like saying, that same person who plays league of legends all the time, would be a better person if they did not play league of legends all the time and instead read books or something. the fact that you are having trouble with that statement shows how hedonistic our society has become.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>you keep making these weird arguments where people who are doing much better than you in life are somehow doing worse than you in life simply because you are sober.
No one is making these arguments. Christ you dopefiends are the biggest strawmanners I could ever imagine. Hilarious that all thread you retards are screaming cope cope cope when that's all you're doing
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Especially because if you examined that sober persons life, they probably have other vices, like idle entertainment, porn, sugary snacks, etc etc etc etc.
Once again you like to be a professional victim and blame something else for your shitty decisions in life. Go ahead, keep blaming candy for not going to class. Keep blaming that slice of pizza for skipping the gym.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
your straw manning. you can still work out while having say a leg injury, but that same leg injury will make it harder to work out and will limit and strain your potential with regards to working out until its healed.
i was doing bjj and then i got a knee injury and had to take time off to heal, that knee injury limited my ability to progress in bjj.
some things objectively affect your capacity to do things, its not about allowing things to be an excuse, you can still go to the gym with a fucked up leg, like i did after i got my knee fucked up in bjj, that doesn't mean that there for things don't negatively affect you.
Drugs limit your potential. cope harder.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>Drugs limit your potential. cope harder.
So by that logic you are limited and will never progress in life because you smoked weed in your past. Professional victim right here
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
thats retarded logic.
what it means is, no matter how much i progress in life, which could be alot. i would have progressed EVEN MORE if i didn't do drugs. that doesn't make me a professional victim for acknwoledging.
lets take martial arts, i could get pretty good at martial arts, but i will NEVER get as good as i could have been if i started training consistantly from when i was 8 years old.
like wise, no matter how much a drug user progresses in their life, they would have progressed MORE if they didn't do drugs.
Post body with timestamp, fren. You live so clean I'm sure you can inspire all the anons in the thread to cut out weed with your physique.
But you won't and you'll ignore this post, or you'll deflect and say "muh addict brain" because you're a doughboy
Huberman's mentioned how potheads are bad candidates for studies because of low motivation and they forget to stick to the protocols to be studied well.
Glutathione has a major role in goal-directed activity and achievement.
it's about 10-15mg is where you get the focused kind effects which is very small you pretty much have to use edibles to do it because it's hard to dose that effectively with vapes or smoking. I can't even take a whole rip off my onie bat with the stuff grow now and not go way over.
I've only ever used it for sleep and to enhance the feeling of alcohol without drinking more than 75ml of brandy. Idk how people can do this stuff all the time it just kills my motivation and makes me scared to go outside and I live where it's legal.
A huge problem these days is that it's very hard to get cannabis that doesn't have way too fucking much THC in it which is what causes that
Fuck the 25% moonrock shit give me some 5% heady mids
This. It’s why I don’t understand why anyone likes cannabis. Even in the cases where it’s not anxiety inducing, you’re rendered a laughing, non-functional mess, so what’s the point?
i only smoked a few times and didn't feel much besides the relaxation similar to the one I get from alcohol except not as good.
ate edibles once but they fucked the recipee so it didn't do much.
>beliving somebody solely due that person having social status or whatever, idk idc
A thread died for this and it's not even fitness related, OP likes sucking on beardy dicks.
>man has status therefore he is wrong
What if I believe him for the things he actually says in the podcast making logical sense, mr strawmanner? You did watch it didn't you? Or is anything that requires more brainpower than spongebob is a waste of a high?
>projection and no arguments
Cannabis being bad for you has been debunked has been debunked. You have been psy-op'd by the handlers into sedating yourself.
You just went on the other side of box and assumed that I said that having social status is the equivalent of being wrong, lmao, you prooved your own gayry and dumbassery, thanks for saving me the trouble.
Keep going. I’m on day 13 although it’s just so I can join the electrical union. Despite what the retards on here are saying I still live the life of a highly functioning adult with good social skills. The best electricians in my company are starting their day at 7am with a solo joint. Smoking weed (not getting fucking stoned) is merely just some background noise. Even through these last 2 weeks I’ve had to pause to remind myself I’m actually not high.
Although the dreams are fucking wild since I’ve been off weed. I had a dream the other night that I was getting sexually harassed by Jeff Cavaliere in a motel room. I woke up and felt absolutely violated. I’ve also been sweating a fuck ton at night.
U can do it bro. I stopped in December and the first month was hell I felt like shit and sleep was shitty while also feeling tired all the time. After that, and especially now I feel NO urge at all to smoke. I even hate it to think about how much I smoked. I'm considering eating an edible on my birthday as a special occasion. I feel more motivated, my stamina is better and my general mood is better. Also more confident. It really was the right choice to me. I like being high but it is degenerate and you only really know and accept this when youre out of the loop.
>lung health >dopamine overload >cannabinoid overload >lowers test >annihilates sleep
inb4 "my test is fine" and "I sleep 15 hours a night bro I'm fine". If you are smoking even once a week it is too much. If you are smoking daily you are an addict.
>huberman says something that's as full of shit as his supplement shilling >this board eats it up because it's fits their existing biases
sometimes i forget this place is actually r*ddit.
yes.
I think he's invalidated his mission statement (or whatever) of spreading free information that people can use to better their lives by accepting money and bias for it.
Thats because they are investing into it now and gaining money from addicted people afterwards, same as cigarets and alcohol.
Redflag nonetheless, you are right probably.
The current regime is not the past regime. In the past everyone was fine with nicotine and anti marijuana. Today it's all pro marijuana and demanding outright bans on tobacco...
Marijuana makes you stupid and passive, nicotine makes you smarter and higher test...
Gee wonder what's going on with that?
>If you use it solely to get high, you need to grow up
You need to stop being upset at people and how they spend their free time, especially when they aren't bothering you. Whats next? Getting mad at people weight lifting instead of doing cardio because you believe heart health is more important than aesthetics?
>the only person getting upset here is you. >Anon literally posted about how people need to stop smoking weed >No you!
You need to stop being upset at me being upset because you responded to me not even being involved in the first place.
See, i can do it too
weed is so horrible in ways that are worse then other drugs because it has very little hang over and society for the longest time spread lies and memes that its not bad for you, not habit forming, not addictive, and even good for you. that it can increase creativity and medicate anxiety.
i was addicted for fifteen years and its entirely gimped my lifes potential. when i was a teenager i would spend all my money on it and i would literally cry and have anxiety attacks if i ran out of weed and couldn't get more. if my dealer wouldn't respond to phone calls or take a long time to get me my weed i would literally just wait around and phone him over and over again like a fucking junkie.
you do heroin or booze and you feel worse the next day, and if you do any other drug all the time then society looks down on it and sees it as like degenerate behaviour, but for what ever reason, theres a giant demographic of people that dont' look down on daily weed use and you don't feel fucked up if you had too much.
you drink too much alcohal and you'll make an ass of your self and feel sick and puke, you smoke too much weed and you'll feel sleepy.
the next day after a heavy day of drinking you'll feel like shit, the next day after weed you'll be sleepy and you'll be like "That was awesome i want to smoke more weed"
but over time weed destroys motivation and makes you mentally weak and fragile, it made me emotionally fragile and weak and completely over come by anxiety and depression, and instead of being motivated to do something about that anxiety and depression, it conditioned me to just treat the symptoms, not the cause, and get high to forget about my problems instead of making something decent about my self.
weed is fucking trash and dumb to smoke and i resent ever smoking it and ever being mislead that "izza erb man, iz juzza plaant" like its a drug you can get addicted and it will ruin your life very easily.
yea dude everyone, including me when i was addicted, says that, but if you compared who you are as a regular weed smoker to who you would be not smoking weed, who you would be not smoking weed is a better person.
without weed you would have to create and be productive to feel better, as it is you can just treat your negative feelings with getting high and zoning out and it neccessarily sacrifices your productivity.
weed literally acts on the dopamine system, not in the same direct way as opiates, but on another part of the chain, but the net affect is the same, and the result is it blunts your motivation.
its like saying "i'm a fat fuck and i'm mentally strong and make money and have sex" like ok your still fat.
like wise, ok you think your life is good mentally and physically, but you still smoke weed, your still worse then if you didn't smoke weed. or atleast didn't smoke weed every day like a junkie.
Act high and uppity bro, I did so too but someday it will get you too and you may remember this encounter here. The negatives of weed come very slowly over the years. Stay vigilant fellow human.
>i was addicted for fifteen years and its entirely gimped my lifes potential >weed made me do it!
I didn't know weed could also abuse people like this. I for sure thought people had the ability to be responsible and decide if they want to abuse weed or not, not the other way around
So are you just going to lose control of your life because "bro, weed is controlling my every movement!"? Or do people usually say they are out of control and decide to actually take responsibility. Holy fuck, do you go around enabling drug addicts like this?
its not either or, if you had hypothermia would that limit your movement? your gonna let hypothermia dictate your every movement? or would it have an understandable impact on your movement?
likewise, if your using weed all the time, its obviously going to have an impact on your decisions and actions.
>if your using weed all the time
See this is your problem. You are giving yourself an out to avoid accountability because you believed weed was controlling your life instead of just telling yourself you were a shithead. Just fuckin grow up, tell yourself you were a fuck up, and move on to the brighter future you want to reach. I don't know why people treat weed as if its oppressing them
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
my original post was about societies treatment of weed as if it doesn't have trade offs and negatively affect you.
for some people, the sacrifice they are making by having some alcohal every once in a while is worth what they get from it.
for some people, the sacrifice they are making for having a really large rich meal, or eating sweets, is worth it.
but they are conciously aware of the sacrifice they are making.
i was fifteen when i started smoking weed and i was surrounded by retarded people telling me that weed isn't bad and that its somehow different from other drugs, i wasn't conciously aware of how addictive and negative it was for me, and i quickly grew extremely dependent on it to cope with life when prior to that i was coping with life alot better. it only made me a weaker person and i was gas lit by society and told that it wasn't the weed it was some how other stuff and i believed that for years. and by the time i realized that it was the weed, i had been using it for so long, that it was pure hell to quit the drug, and i would relapse, telling my self "i don't want to quit the drug entirely, i just don't want to be addicted", and i would use it again, and just get addicted again.
if your life is good, then maybe you can use weed responsibly, but for a lot of people, if their life is bad, weed is dangerous because it can cause you to be addicted to not feeling bad, when you kind of should feel bad if your life is bad so that your motivated to make your life not bad.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>societies treatment of weed as if it doesn't have trade offs and negatively affect you
Maybe in grade school but all adults know its not good for you. >sacrifice >candy
Yea dude, you are a professional victim at this point
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
there are weed smokers literally in this thread who say that they smoke weed every day and they have "never been mentally and physically stronger". like there are lots of adults who think its just a net positive.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because its possible to still progress in life while on weed. Stop pretending its not possible.
With that said, no drugs are not good in general. My problem is with people who cant take accountability for their own actions and instead want to blame it all on weed
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
i never said its not possible to progress in life while on weed, i'm saying that drug use, paticularily regular drug use, limits the over all productivity of an individual. an individual can make progress in their life while doing drugs, but that same individual, not doing drugs, will make more progress.
2 weeks ago
Anonymous
>if your life is good, then maybe you can use weed responsibly, but for a lot of people, if their life is bad, weed is dangerous because it can cause you to be addicted to not feeling bad, when you kind of should feel bad if your life is bad so that your motivated to make your life not bad.
Beyond any so called "health" problems from smoking weed, this right here is the reason you should be cautious. Don't use weed as a crutch or a coping mechanism for how shit your situation is. It just makes you ok with being bored and shit. Weed should be used when you're in a positive state of mind.
its based on a variety of conditions. certain people are more vulnerable then others for sure.
if you have a person who already has a really stressful life, like a shit environment, and then you offer them weed. the problem is that their tolerance for stress goes way down, because while on weed they can totally tune out everything horrible in their life, and then when they sober up their ability to tune out the shitty things goes lower then base line as a recoil affect.
so i had a really shitty environment and then instead of staying tough and being able to handle it, i smoked weed and got addicted to using it to tune out how horrible things were until i needed it just to barely cope.
where as if i never smoked weed i would have retained my natural ability to tune out how horrible things are.
>where as if i never smoked weed i would have retained my natural ability to tune out how horrible things are
Im not downplaying your upbringing but come on dude. Even people in rehab take accountability for their own actions and actually improve themselves; they aren't blaming drugs for not being able to do something
You could say that about literally any substance to justify it
yea and thus, i generally advise people not to smoke weed but at the end of the day i think the more important thing is to atleast recognize weed is a drug like any other drug and to stop treating it like this special case where it some how can't hurt you like drinking every day can, or doing party drugs all the time.
doing drugs generally speaking makes you weaker and limits your potential, if you want to take that risk then go for it but be aware of the risk.
>stop treating it like this special case where it some how can't hurt you
This is asking too much of these people. Look how angry they get at the implication and how far they reach to cope. They're beyond saving so personally I give up trying.
>stop treating it like this special case where it some how can't hurt you
This is asking too much of these people. Look how angry they get at the implication and how far they reach to cope. They're beyond saving so personally I give up trying.
>weed is so bad!
Yall idiots are on IST, don't forget that. This is literally a website for both degenerates and barely normal people to shitpost on
>i was addicted
I was taking strong gummies every night for the last 3 months while also having a highly technical and demanding job during the day. One hour workouts every morning after rolling right out of bed. Just stopped cold turkey a little over a week ago because I felt like it. Feel great. You have a mental illness my dude.
Lol that post is pure cap, weed has literally been proven to disrupt your rem sleep, which directly stifles your gains from the gym and makes you feel tired in the morning. That's the reason it's medically prescribed to people who have dealt with trauma so they don't dream and at least get some form of sleep. Also working out directly after shit sleep means you literally made 0 gains the entire time. might as well have not even gone to the gym.
Your technical and demanding job of jacking off and larping on IST will obviously not be disrupted by weed.
Giving it up cold turkey is the only thing you said that is indeed possible because I also did it but I think we are outliers because for the majority of people it is not that easy.
This sounds weird, but is it possible people have different genetics for weed tolerance? I absolutely cannot handle any form/strain of weed without having horrible stress and anxiety come on.
Weed in fact does induce stress and anxiety. Its just that some people truly don't give a shit about their life. But people will blame weed to dismiss accountability, its quite wild
I had the same when i was very unhealthy.
You have to know that weed only makes you feel more of the stress you are in all the time (at least its like that in my case).
I had the problem that im addicted to the PC and have highly sensitive eyes, therefore was stressed all the time whitout noticing.
Its way better since i wear high filter computer glasses.
You just have to find out what stresses you all the time imo.
Good luck litte bro.
everyone shills that I should try out edibles. why? how do you guys enjoy edibles? I'm too scared of trying them out, because of one reason: it lasts TOO LONG. I already get anxiety/jitteriness after smoking a joint for the first 20-30 minutes a lot of the times, after that, the initial come-up ends and I can handle it and even enjoy it. for this reason I only smoke weed when I've had a beer or two so I'm calmer. also after 1-2 hours the initial "high" has passed and it's just a comfy mellow trip. edibles however, last for HOURS, the dosage is very sensitive to weight and I've had friends mess up because of this, accidentally eat too large of a dose and then "enjoy hell" for 4-6 hours.
with smoking a joint, if you mess up and smoke too much, or smoke on a bad day/bad environment, worst that's gonna happen is you're gonna have a short panic attack during the come-up/peak of the effect, or just very strong anxiety BUT IT WILL ONLY LAST 1 HOUR MAX. with edibles, you're in for a hellish nightmare for the entire day almost.
Get them from a dispensary if possible, they're standardized. The kind you make yourself can be...interesting if you don't know what you're doing. What I do is take one, cook up my dinner, which right now is about 1 lb chicken thighs, veggies, and a baked potato, and veg out eating it in the evening. Then I'm in bed at around 10 and sleep great. But you're right, if you take too much it is not a good experience. I prefer it to smoking because I don't want who knows what in my lungs but that's just me.
I'm probably going to try them this spring with a bro that already has experience with them, nobody that has tried them ever told me that they've regretted it (at moderate doses of course) and I think that mushrooms are cool in general
Eat 1.5-2g. You'll get everything you want out of the trip: visuals, open and closed eyes, euphoria, deep introspection. You can't go wrong with that dose. Below 1g, it might be underwhelming. Over 3g, it might be too much for your first time.
Weed isn't weed anymore, the breeding of the recent decades has multiplied the THC content by up to factors of 50. Imagine if every beer was 250% proof, imagine if every cup of coffee has 80 espressos in it. People need to fucking calm down with the arms race.
A lot of fruits aren't natural
But sweetness and good flavor and ease of growing doesn't come close to near the unnaturalness of a strong molecule becoming amplified a hundredfold
Not that a plant being natural means that it's good for you, just look at datura
Marijuana is not perfect. But it’s a much better alternative to painkillers for people who need that sort of relief, has long term health benefits due to its anti inflammatory properties, and is actually really cheap now. Anyone who’s smoking everyday should probably stop for the sake of their memory but I’ve been a weekend smoker for a long time and have no issues with advancing my education or career and living a generally productive day to day life
Pretty much this. It's the least damaging way to get a buzz on by far, especially if you ingest it alternatively instead of smoking it. However like all other things that are intoxicants: overdoing it has bad results, it's just takes a good bit more overdoing it than other substances do is all.
I had my gfs mother switch from casually using Percocets to using weed gummies, there’s a lot of under the radar middle aged whites who lean on opiates hard but still have negative preconceptions about marijuana use. I think for those people using edibles instead would be a better way to wean off
Speaking from experience (former daily smoker of 13 years, now 5 months sober), weed fucks with your REM sleep. Your endurance drop significantly. Your mental sharpness becomes dulled, making conversations with others difficult. Fucks up your sperm too.
I've kicked many bad habits, but quitting weed was one of the hardest things I've ever done. Don't let anyone tell you it's not addictive.
Best thing I've bought for cannabis moderation >forces you to use small amounts of flower >vapes the weed so you don't inhale ash and tar >smell is 1/5 of smoking so you don't reek like a degenerate
Anyone who has ever taken weed knows this to be true but they just deny it to justify their addiction.
Weed has it's place for niche circumstances such as insomnia, PTSD, people who need to stimulate appetite.
Using it recreationally though, ruins your sleep, makes you lazy and lethargic, highly addicting as well (not in the same sense as nicotine which alters your brain but in the sense that you get addicted to the feeling of being high because truthfully it's pretty awesome). Doing weed like once in a blue moon, every couple of months when you have a couple days off is fine but any more than that and it really isn't worth the downsides.
>Doing weed like once in a blue moon, every couple of months when you have a couple days off is fine
Doing weed without tolerance sucks. It feels weird and disorienting and you can't think straight. I have to be acclimated to enjoy it. The thing is when you vape (not smoke, vape) daily your tolerance gets so strong that all the negative effects are marginalized because your body becomes so effective at processing weed, it's a "new normal" and you're immune to the daily stresses that many normies have on a daily basis, like taking care of children and stupid shit like that.
I I also do intense hot yoga workouts in a sauna 2x a week which purges my system so I can get high again.
Marijuana is my Holy Shield against Clown World. Please make an AI art out of that. Pepe holding a shield with a giant potleaf on it to protect anons from an army of new world order ESG clown puppets
Do you not see how you are literally planning out your days so that you can continuously get high lol.
Doing weed without tolerance is fine it simply means you need to use less weed. Once you know what to expect from the initial shock of your first few highs then it absolutely wouldn't be disorienting... Instead of taking 40MG you simply need to take 10MG and you literally get the same effect.
It just sounds like ur addicted m8, although I am pretty sure I have taken the b8.
I've been sober from weed for 4 months so I wouldn't have to stress about a piss test when I got a new job. I've been just as lazy and unproductive in my sobriety as I was when I got stoned every night after work, only now it takes me longer to fall asleep.
>182 posts >not 1 body posted
So we have concluded weed is only as bad as you let it be. It can be lie ruining or it can be a chill pill. Any and all posts that do not have body support this post. /thread.
It’s not a good habit to start. The answer lies somewhere between the two polarities of this thread (imagine that). You can use weed as a coping mechanism and be a victim to marijuana or you can use it in moderation and not let it steer your life. Someone in here mentioned how if you are going to use it it shouldn’t be done while you’re in a negative state of mind/avoiding the realities of your shitty life and I think that’s very true.
Weed obviously isn’t healthy, but if you’re using it on the weekend as an alternative to alcohol it is definitely preferable. I can literally be perfectly normal and well rested the day after cannabis, but alcohol fucks me up for the best part of a week.
as a former weed addict, yes, take heroin instead
It always seems to be a if not this than that argument with you pot heads. Maybe don't do anything retarded. That's a choice guy.
the only drug i consume rn is porn and social media. Thats still too much for me, i wanna be free from all addictions. Also idk what you are saying
Porn is good for you according to a recent study from Carnegie Mellon
okay dawg
you have to clear your mind first in order to see how much weed you should consume, but nobody has a clear mind any more.
this guy is still believing in studies... bro can you wake up any time soon?
Porn is bad for you, like any other drug.
You are a slave to your urges and generate money for the people who use you.
Hey can you do me a favor really quick and have a nice day
i will make a study telling you that suicide is legit the best way out and you will just blindly follow it you little brainlet.
Enjoy your sheep life.
the truth hurts, dont cry like a bitch about it.
According to recent studies from my melon, these digits will loot gains from gay op
Goyberg Institute
Post study.
You also consume sugar dont you?
Sugar is the biggest addiction we all have.
And yes, quitting all of it is the right way to go.
I actually dont, atleast not in large amounts. I like myself a jelly donut time to time, but i stopped eating chocolate and shit a long time ago because it gave me acne. I even drink my coffee without sugar, and i rarely drink coffee. Salty things are my go to
oops wrong person
>the only drug i consume rn is porn... Also idk what you are saying
Shocked
Not too often though. I limit my heroin use to special occasions (such as weekends) because doing opioids too frequently can increase estrogen.
The sun doesn't come up until after 8am in the winter
I don't care if you do drugs
feel free to do more if you want
the more you fall the higher I rise
why should I care about the well being of others when it doesn't benefit me?
legalize crack all i care
It's bad for me, but it keeps bitchy, effeminate manchildren managers alive and my ass out of jail, so it's good for me.
makes my heart feel weird
Same
Marijuana is bad if your goal in life is working 40 hours a week for Mr. Shekelstein so you can rent for the rest of your life.
The funny part is a lot of the appeal for marihuana was the outsider status. The appeal of being rebellious always helps glorify a product, lifestyle or idea to thise who seek it, namely younger adults seeking for an identity outside of their parents, family or community.
Once it became legalized and accepted mainstream it took a tremendous amou t of that appeal away. Now people just see it as another form of self medication and are more focused on the what people who use it look like as a reality rather than a caricature.
The result is that it makes you look like a lethargic, slow and even dull if abused. It's like alcohol, once prohibition was removed the undercool of it evaporated.
Weed really was fun back in the day due to the culture that surrounded it. Being a stoner in the early 2000s was awesome. I was also a highschooler at the time, so that's probably why.
what was the main conclusion other than its bad for your health in general? From experience I know its bad for lung health and also with inducing anxiety. There is a certain threshold, which is extremely low, where weed gives a very relaxing feeling. But I am talking about a very small intake of this stuff.
I know there was another similar study done on alcohol and how it actually improves cognitive abilities at a extremely small dosage. Beyond this threshold, there is significant reduction in cognitive abilities as well as damage to general health
>lung health
>dopamine overload
>cannabinoid overload
>lowers test
>annihilates sleep
inb4 "my test is fine" and "I sleep 15 hours a night bro I'm fine". If you are smoking even once a week it is too much. If you are smoking daily you are an addict.
Gummy chads literally avoid all of these issues
>no lungs utilized
>indica aids sleep
>test levels are great
>do it only a couple times a week
>aids in my muscle recovery
>inexpensive
aids sleep
>>aids in my muscle recovery
Gonna need a heckin' sourcerino on that one there buddy. NB: Getting to sleep and quality of sleep are not the same thing.
>ignores dopamine and cannabinoid overload
Twice a week is too much.
I'm thinking once every 3-4 weeks is good
>muh dopameans
Oversimplification of brain chemistry
This is correct- incinerating something and breathing it into your lungs is TERRIBLE for you. Pitch all smoking/vaping shit in the trash asap. If you are gonna consume marijuana only consume it in edible form. However, the problem with this is that most companies are in a retarded arms race to create the strongest edibles ever and you eat one of these gummies and it’s like doing a DMT trip. So what I do and what I would suggest is buying gummies from Enjoy Hemp that are sold as “microdose”. I then take the “microdose” gummies and take two paper plates and dump the gummies out on one paper plate and use the other paper plate to carefully cut them in half and then put them back in the container. Be aware when you do this that if you do it bare handed and don’t use gloves you will get high as fuck because the live marijuana content is sprayed on the outside of the gummies and will absorb into your skin as you cut them up. Once you cut them all in half just take half of one at a time.
>However, the problem with this is that most companies are in a retarded arms race to create the strongest edibles ever
True, this is why I just take half of a gummy. Still hits really well and it lasts longer.
That gay is cutting gummie bears in half in order to get the right dosage of weed. You're a child bro.
I figured some retards would say stuff like this. I’m old enough to be your father. Go ahead and blast yourself into outer space with the most powerful edibles on earth if you want doesn’t affect me. But the point I’m trying to make for anyone reading this with half a brain is that the edibles being produced today are FAR too strong. Then some jackass like you says basically “only fags would drink a lite beer, all I drink is straight moonshine from the still that makes me go blind and insane every night”. Well some of us here are adults with careers and responsibilities and benefit more from small doses rather than peering beyond the veil into another dimension every night.
You forgot to add
>Tastes great
I do not miss tasting resin
Lmao, I am asking for elaborate answers. Not
>weed bad!!!
Jesus christ you anti-weeders are even dumber than the dude blaze it gays
>no I won't watch the podcast with elaborate answers! Give me the tldr so I can dismiss it as not elaborate enough!
kill
your
self
>im going to respond as if I know something but i will backpedal when I get called out
>kys
Thanks for doubling down on the fact you are dumber than stoners
No one gives enough of a shit about you to spoonfeed you, gay.
I smoke every day and sleep fine and my lifts are progressing at an all time high. Cope harder loser
Is it beyond your tiny weed-addled mind that you could be performing better without it?
>You don't understand, I'm a functioning addict
lmao
>performing better
Literally every professional athlete out there smokes weed daily and a lot also abuse alcohol. They are all performing significantly better than you.
Don't blame weed for your lack of discipline. This is like blaming weed for failing a test instead of blaming it on the fact you never studied
Professional atheletes have been heroine addicts and outperformed us both, I guess heroine isn't bad for you.
Retard
>heh I bet now you'll call me retarded
Yes. When in doubt, ask for nudes.
>I used performance as my main point for my argument but now I am going to backpedal and say performance has nothing to do with drugs at all
Are you stupid or what?
>a person outperforming both of us on heroine could outperform themselves if they weren't on heroine, the level other people are at is irrelevant.
That was the point you absolute fucking retard. I'm out. No more (you)s for you
>doesn't post body
>doesn't have argument
>no u no u I quit
I accept your concession. Adios, paco. Please don't give any more (you)s 🙂
>You will get an edge on everyone who does drugs if you aren't doing drugs!
Is that why Ranoldo or whatever his straight edge name is didn't do so well in the world cup?
>The professional would do better without drugs
No doubt but the argument is still flawed since you can get to world class levels on it and also outperform those who aren't even taking drugs.
1. that was a different anon.
2. that same professional athlete would do better if they weren't addicted to heroin.
are you actually saying that people in rehab don't acknowledge that the affect that the drugs had on their body and brain didn't play a part in their limited potential?
^this is what i feel about that, that there is both free will and also circumstance that affects your potential and your actions, yea you have will power but having intense weed cravings and over all being mentally weaker is going to negatively affect your actions and decisions.
my room mate is quitting weed and nicotine right now and he's the most stressed out and helpless i've ever seen him in my entire life. weed and drugs in general limit your potential. life isn't about feeling good and having fun all the time.
>the affect that the drugs had on their body and brain didn't play a part in their limited potential?
Im saying you have the ability to change your future when you are off it. Stop being a victim when you are already sober you dunce
i like your attitude but you also gotta be realistic, the bulk of peoples ability to create a successful live for them selves happens between 15 and 35, if your spending a large portion of that time smoking weed and being a loser then its going to negatively affect yoru capacity to make money and make something of your life.
i haven't given up, but i should be in the height of my money making right now, and instead of studying all day like i should have been doing when i was fifteen. and its basically a waking nightmare, and i would be alot better off if i wasn't smoking weed for fifteen years, my family and public school and my community are also largely to blame, but weed was definitely a factor. i grew up in an area where weed culture was really strong, and its predatorial and dangerous to young people, because they get caught up in how cool and friendly and fun it all seems, and then they get addicted.
I hope you realize there are a lot of losers out there that are completely sober. This is why I keep telling people to stop pretending to be victims when even sober people have the same exact results as drug addicts. The MAIN problem is that people don't want to grab their balls and just admit they were being weak soft pussies, then finally doing something they are afraid to do but know it brings great results.
Look Im sorry you wasted your youth and feel as though you are late. But the ACTUAL reality is that you still have time. Some dude who is 40 is just starting their first semester in college while you at like 20 or 30 something years old believes life is over already.
i can tell by your post that you smoke weed and thats why your super invested in arguing that actually i'm just a doomer.
i haven't given up on my self but its catostrophic to not acknowledge when somethign has been lost or wasted, or when something could not have gotten better.
the fact that tehre are sober people who are shitty doesn't mean that there for drugs don't make people shitty.
like holy shit.
Especially because if you examined that sober persons life, they probably have other vices, like idle entertainment, porn, sugary snacks, etc etc etc etc.
the guy who is just starting college at 40 is objectively worse off then a guy who is getting their act together at fifteen. weed does limit your lifes potential, thats a fact.
that same rich guy who does coke would likely accomplish more with their life if they health maxxed and didn't do coke. drugs limit your potential.
>would likely accomplish more with their life
>rich
I think you are missing the point that rich people are doing coke because they can. They aren't out here struggling to reach their goals
there are plenty of rich people who are depressed, i know a few, being rich doesn't mean its ok to coast and stop accomplish things, and you will accomplish more things if you don't do drugs. your mind will be stronger and more resilient to depression if you don't do drugs.
>there are plenty of rich people who are depressed
Both on drugs and without drugs. Look, you keep making these weird arguments where people who are doing much better than you in life are somehow doing worse than you in life simply because you are sober. There are literally poor fucks out there that wish they could be rich and doing coke off some sluts ass but they can't do that because they are being responsible and understanding how to move forward. They aren't looking back at their life telling themselves their life would be much better if they didn't smoke weed. They are looking back at their life and blaming themselves for not trying harder
bro, i get that you do hella drugs, but your straw manning like crazy and it shows that what i'm saying is making you hella insecure.
i didn't say that people who are doing better hten me in life are some how doing worse.
i'm saying, a person doing drugs, is doing worse then that same person would be doing if they weren't doing drugs. thats a fact. if you are doing drugs, your life would improve more if you were not doing drugs. instead of doing drugs, you could be learning a skill or developing your self in some way.
its like saying, that same person who plays league of legends all the time, would be a better person if they did not play league of legends all the time and instead read books or something. the fact that you are having trouble with that statement shows how hedonistic our society has become.
>you keep making these weird arguments where people who are doing much better than you in life are somehow doing worse than you in life simply because you are sober.
No one is making these arguments. Christ you dopefiends are the biggest strawmanners I could ever imagine. Hilarious that all thread you retards are screaming cope cope cope when that's all you're doing
>Especially because if you examined that sober persons life, they probably have other vices, like idle entertainment, porn, sugary snacks, etc etc etc etc.
Once again you like to be a professional victim and blame something else for your shitty decisions in life. Go ahead, keep blaming candy for not going to class. Keep blaming that slice of pizza for skipping the gym.
your straw manning. you can still work out while having say a leg injury, but that same leg injury will make it harder to work out and will limit and strain your potential with regards to working out until its healed.
i was doing bjj and then i got a knee injury and had to take time off to heal, that knee injury limited my ability to progress in bjj.
some things objectively affect your capacity to do things, its not about allowing things to be an excuse, you can still go to the gym with a fucked up leg, like i did after i got my knee fucked up in bjj, that doesn't mean that there for things don't negatively affect you.
Drugs limit your potential. cope harder.
>Drugs limit your potential. cope harder.
So by that logic you are limited and will never progress in life because you smoked weed in your past. Professional victim right here
thats retarded logic.
what it means is, no matter how much i progress in life, which could be alot. i would have progressed EVEN MORE if i didn't do drugs. that doesn't make me a professional victim for acknwoledging.
lets take martial arts, i could get pretty good at martial arts, but i will NEVER get as good as i could have been if i started training consistantly from when i was 8 years old.
like wise, no matter how much a drug user progresses in their life, they would have progressed MORE if they didn't do drugs.
>literally every professional athlete out there smokes weed daily
smoke more pot, dude
It’s estimated the 80%-90% of NFL players are smoking weed kek
Post body with timestamp, fren. You live so clean I'm sure you can inspire all the anons in the thread to cut out weed with your physique.
But you won't and you'll ignore this post, or you'll deflect and say "muh addict brain" because you're a doughboy
>annihilates sleep
Legit this, then again alcohol does the same
The real tl;dr is everything in moderation
Huberman's mentioned how potheads are bad candidates for studies because of low motivation and they forget to stick to the protocols to be studied well.
Glutathione has a major role in goal-directed activity and achievement.
Marijuana severely depletes glutathione.
Lung, kidney and brain, all important parts of the body. Fuck weed and weedheads.
it's about 10-15mg is where you get the focused kind effects which is very small you pretty much have to use edibles to do it because it's hard to dose that effectively with vapes or smoking. I can't even take a whole rip off my onie bat with the stuff grow now and not go way over.
I've only ever used it for sleep and to enhance the feeling of alcohol without drinking more than 75ml of brandy. Idk how people can do this stuff all the time it just kills my motivation and makes me scared to go outside and I live where it's legal.
>marijuana is really bad for you
Shocking.
Did you listen to the podcast?
yeah no shit
>brb massive heartrate increase and spike of anxiety
A huge problem these days is that it's very hard to get cannabis that doesn't have way too fucking much THC in it which is what causes that
Fuck the 25% moonrock shit give me some 5% heady mids
The shit's all stronger now because the addicts are all chasing the dragon trying to recreate their early smoking experience.
This. It’s why I don’t understand why anyone likes cannabis. Even in the cases where it’s not anxiety inducing, you’re rendered a laughing, non-functional mess, so what’s the point?
makes kino more enjoyable
YOURE rendered a mess. Speak for yourself. Sorry you are allergic
Does Huberman even cite his sources for that?
Yesterday I've made chocolate edibles for the first time
Was it nice?
It takes only 1 hour to feel the effect and it was so strongest than smoked
This is the way
eat all of it at once and have the trip of a lifetime
i only smoked a few times and didn't feel much besides the relaxation similar to the one I get from alcohol except not as good.
ate edibles once but they fucked the recipee so it didn't do much.
lemme trust a garden gnome.
Nice try ~~*OP*~~
bros really need a garden gnome to explain to them that drugs are bad
>beliving somebody solely due that person having social status or whatever, idk idc
A thread died for this and it's not even fitness related, OP likes sucking on beardy dicks.
>man has status therefore he is wrong
What if I believe him for the things he actually says in the podcast making logical sense, mr strawmanner? You did watch it didn't you? Or is anything that requires more brainpower than spongebob is a waste of a high?
>making logical sense
>No I didn’t read the studies or look into any of this
>BELIEVE THE HECKIN’ SCIENCE
>projection and no arguments
Cannabis being bad for you has been debunked has been debunked. You have been psy-op'd by the handlers into sedating yourself.
You just went on the other side of box and assumed that I said that having social status is the equivalent of being wrong, lmao, you prooved your own gayry and dumbassery, thanks for saving me the trouble.
This is your brain on cannabis
RIP Terry and boo @ cia morons
Literally health and fitness related
>mfw im on day 6 of not smoking any weed after 15 years of heavy use
Great work
Keep going. I’m on day 13 although it’s just so I can join the electrical union. Despite what the retards on here are saying I still live the life of a highly functioning adult with good social skills. The best electricians in my company are starting their day at 7am with a solo joint. Smoking weed (not getting fucking stoned) is merely just some background noise. Even through these last 2 weeks I’ve had to pause to remind myself I’m actually not high.
Although the dreams are fucking wild since I’ve been off weed. I had a dream the other night that I was getting sexually harassed by Jeff Cavaliere in a motel room. I woke up and felt absolutely violated. I’ve also been sweating a fuck ton at night.
U can do it bro. I stopped in December and the first month was hell I felt like shit and sleep was shitty while also feeling tired all the time. After that, and especially now I feel NO urge at all to smoke. I even hate it to think about how much I smoked. I'm considering eating an edible on my birthday as a special occasion. I feel more motivated, my stamina is better and my general mood is better. Also more confident. It really was the right choice to me. I like being high but it is degenerate and you only really know and accept this when youre out of the loop.
>Everyone says it’s good for you
Ironic considering that all the other podcasters who push Huberman also use drugs
I smoke every day, and I lift every day. My test levels are fine. Idk where why everyone is so scared of weed
So what is the gist? I’m not listening to an hour long podcast
>huberman says something that's as full of shit as his supplement shilling
>this board eats it up because it's fits their existing biases
sometimes i forget this place is actually r*ddit.
you think everything in his podcasts is shit because he shills some supps?
yes.
I think he's invalidated his mission statement (or whatever) of spreading free information that people can use to better their lives by accepting money and bias for it.
I don't think there was anything that was full of shit in his marijuana podcast and it was free to watch
I too believe that people should work for no compensation.
I mean, how can I trust a podcast on cold exposure when he's being paid by Big Zinc??
>nooo you can't just sell products and have skippable ads!
dilate commie
The globohomo establishment endorses and pushes marijuana... That should tell you everything you need to know.
Thats because they are investing into it now and gaining money from addicted people afterwards, same as cigarets and alcohol.
Redflag nonetheless, you are right probably.
They’re the ones who banned it in the first place retard.
The current regime is not the past regime. In the past everyone was fine with nicotine and anti marijuana. Today it's all pro marijuana and demanding outright bans on tobacco...
Marijuana makes you stupid and passive, nicotine makes you smarter and higher test...
Gee wonder what's going on with that?
If you use it for a legitimate purpose and a side effect is euphoria (getting high), it's fine.
If you use it solely to get high, you need to grow up.
>If you use it solely to get high, you need to grow up
You need to stop being upset at people and how they spend their free time, especially when they aren't bothering you. Whats next? Getting mad at people weight lifting instead of doing cardio because you believe heart health is more important than aesthetics?
>choice of fitness activity is the same thing as justifying drug abuse.
Not that anon, but the only person getting upset here is you.
>the only person getting upset here is you.
>Anon literally posted about how people need to stop smoking weed
>No you!
You need to stop being upset at me being upset because you responded to me not even being involved in the first place.
See, i can do it too
>anyone who talks to me is upset
Are all your conversations just crying?
>Are all your conversations just crying?
You still haven't elaborated. The only ones crying are the ones who get called out for not knowing shit
I take everything this guy says with a large grain of salt
>large grain of salt
weed is so horrible in ways that are worse then other drugs because it has very little hang over and society for the longest time spread lies and memes that its not bad for you, not habit forming, not addictive, and even good for you. that it can increase creativity and medicate anxiety.
i was addicted for fifteen years and its entirely gimped my lifes potential. when i was a teenager i would spend all my money on it and i would literally cry and have anxiety attacks if i ran out of weed and couldn't get more. if my dealer wouldn't respond to phone calls or take a long time to get me my weed i would literally just wait around and phone him over and over again like a fucking junkie.
you do heroin or booze and you feel worse the next day, and if you do any other drug all the time then society looks down on it and sees it as like degenerate behaviour, but for what ever reason, theres a giant demographic of people that dont' look down on daily weed use and you don't feel fucked up if you had too much.
you drink too much alcohal and you'll make an ass of your self and feel sick and puke, you smoke too much weed and you'll feel sleepy.
the next day after a heavy day of drinking you'll feel like shit, the next day after weed you'll be sleepy and you'll be like "That was awesome i want to smoke more weed"
but over time weed destroys motivation and makes you mentally weak and fragile, it made me emotionally fragile and weak and completely over come by anxiety and depression, and instead of being motivated to do something about that anxiety and depression, it conditioned me to just treat the symptoms, not the cause, and get high to forget about my problems instead of making something decent about my self.
weed is fucking trash and dumb to smoke and i resent ever smoking it and ever being mislead that "izza erb man, iz juzza plaant" like its a drug you can get addicted and it will ruin your life very easily.
Smoking daily and I’m stronger than I have ever been mentally and physically. Sounds like you’re just a pussy
yea dude everyone, including me when i was addicted, says that, but if you compared who you are as a regular weed smoker to who you would be not smoking weed, who you would be not smoking weed is a better person.
without weed you would have to create and be productive to feel better, as it is you can just treat your negative feelings with getting high and zoning out and it neccessarily sacrifices your productivity.
weed literally acts on the dopamine system, not in the same direct way as opiates, but on another part of the chain, but the net affect is the same, and the result is it blunts your motivation.
its like saying "i'm a fat fuck and i'm mentally strong and make money and have sex" like ok your still fat.
like wise, ok you think your life is good mentally and physically, but you still smoke weed, your still worse then if you didn't smoke weed. or atleast didn't smoke weed every day like a junkie.
I’m not reading all this
BRB while I bench your deadlift max loser lmao
Act high and uppity bro, I did so too but someday it will get you too and you may remember this encounter here. The negatives of weed come very slowly over the years. Stay vigilant fellow human.
>i was addicted for fifteen years and its entirely gimped my lifes potential
>weed made me do it!
I didn't know weed could also abuse people like this. I for sure thought people had the ability to be responsible and decide if they want to abuse weed or not, not the other way around
You could say that about literally any substance to justify it
So are you just going to lose control of your life because "bro, weed is controlling my every movement!"? Or do people usually say they are out of control and decide to actually take responsibility. Holy fuck, do you go around enabling drug addicts like this?
its not either or, if you had hypothermia would that limit your movement? your gonna let hypothermia dictate your every movement? or would it have an understandable impact on your movement?
likewise, if your using weed all the time, its obviously going to have an impact on your decisions and actions.
>if your using weed all the time
See this is your problem. You are giving yourself an out to avoid accountability because you believed weed was controlling your life instead of just telling yourself you were a shithead. Just fuckin grow up, tell yourself you were a fuck up, and move on to the brighter future you want to reach. I don't know why people treat weed as if its oppressing them
my original post was about societies treatment of weed as if it doesn't have trade offs and negatively affect you.
for some people, the sacrifice they are making by having some alcohal every once in a while is worth what they get from it.
for some people, the sacrifice they are making for having a really large rich meal, or eating sweets, is worth it.
but they are conciously aware of the sacrifice they are making.
i was fifteen when i started smoking weed and i was surrounded by retarded people telling me that weed isn't bad and that its somehow different from other drugs, i wasn't conciously aware of how addictive and negative it was for me, and i quickly grew extremely dependent on it to cope with life when prior to that i was coping with life alot better. it only made me a weaker person and i was gas lit by society and told that it wasn't the weed it was some how other stuff and i believed that for years. and by the time i realized that it was the weed, i had been using it for so long, that it was pure hell to quit the drug, and i would relapse, telling my self "i don't want to quit the drug entirely, i just don't want to be addicted", and i would use it again, and just get addicted again.
if your life is good, then maybe you can use weed responsibly, but for a lot of people, if their life is bad, weed is dangerous because it can cause you to be addicted to not feeling bad, when you kind of should feel bad if your life is bad so that your motivated to make your life not bad.
>societies treatment of weed as if it doesn't have trade offs and negatively affect you
Maybe in grade school but all adults know its not good for you.
>sacrifice
>candy
Yea dude, you are a professional victim at this point
there are weed smokers literally in this thread who say that they smoke weed every day and they have "never been mentally and physically stronger". like there are lots of adults who think its just a net positive.
Because its possible to still progress in life while on weed. Stop pretending its not possible.
With that said, no drugs are not good in general. My problem is with people who cant take accountability for their own actions and instead want to blame it all on weed
i never said its not possible to progress in life while on weed, i'm saying that drug use, paticularily regular drug use, limits the over all productivity of an individual. an individual can make progress in their life while doing drugs, but that same individual, not doing drugs, will make more progress.
>if your life is good, then maybe you can use weed responsibly, but for a lot of people, if their life is bad, weed is dangerous because it can cause you to be addicted to not feeling bad, when you kind of should feel bad if your life is bad so that your motivated to make your life not bad.
Beyond any so called "health" problems from smoking weed, this right here is the reason you should be cautious. Don't use weed as a crutch or a coping mechanism for how shit your situation is. It just makes you ok with being bored and shit. Weed should be used when you're in a positive state of mind.
its based on a variety of conditions. certain people are more vulnerable then others for sure.
if you have a person who already has a really stressful life, like a shit environment, and then you offer them weed. the problem is that their tolerance for stress goes way down, because while on weed they can totally tune out everything horrible in their life, and then when they sober up their ability to tune out the shitty things goes lower then base line as a recoil affect.
so i had a really shitty environment and then instead of staying tough and being able to handle it, i smoked weed and got addicted to using it to tune out how horrible things were until i needed it just to barely cope.
where as if i never smoked weed i would have retained my natural ability to tune out how horrible things are.
>where as if i never smoked weed i would have retained my natural ability to tune out how horrible things are
Im not downplaying your upbringing but come on dude. Even people in rehab take accountability for their own actions and actually improve themselves; they aren't blaming drugs for not being able to do something
yea and thus, i generally advise people not to smoke weed but at the end of the day i think the more important thing is to atleast recognize weed is a drug like any other drug and to stop treating it like this special case where it some how can't hurt you like drinking every day can, or doing party drugs all the time.
doing drugs generally speaking makes you weaker and limits your potential, if you want to take that risk then go for it but be aware of the risk.
>stop treating it like this special case where it some how can't hurt you
This is asking too much of these people. Look how angry they get at the implication and how far they reach to cope. They're beyond saving so personally I give up trying.
>weed is so bad!
Yall idiots are on IST, don't forget that. This is literally a website for both degenerates and barely normal people to shitpost on
"you do y so there for x is fine"
Not saying doing drugs is fine. Im saying you idiots are pretending you are somehow living a better life than some rich guy doing coke
>i was addicted
I was taking strong gummies every night for the last 3 months while also having a highly technical and demanding job during the day. One hour workouts every morning after rolling right out of bed. Just stopped cold turkey a little over a week ago because I felt like it. Feel great. You have a mental illness my dude.
Lol that post is pure cap, weed has literally been proven to disrupt your rem sleep, which directly stifles your gains from the gym and makes you feel tired in the morning. That's the reason it's medically prescribed to people who have dealt with trauma so they don't dream and at least get some form of sleep. Also working out directly after shit sleep means you literally made 0 gains the entire time. might as well have not even gone to the gym.
Your technical and demanding job of jacking off and larping on IST will obviously not be disrupted by weed.
Giving it up cold turkey is the only thing you said that is indeed possible because I also did it but I think we are outliers because for the majority of people it is not that easy.
>Weed destroys your dopamine system
>Spends 12 hours on IST mocking people they will never see irl
This sounds weird, but is it possible people have different genetics for weed tolerance? I absolutely cannot handle any form/strain of weed without having horrible stress and anxiety come on.
Weed in fact does induce stress and anxiety. Its just that some people truly don't give a shit about their life. But people will blame weed to dismiss accountability, its quite wild
I had the same when i was very unhealthy.
You have to know that weed only makes you feel more of the stress you are in all the time (at least its like that in my case).
I had the problem that im addicted to the PC and have highly sensitive eyes, therefore was stressed all the time whitout noticing.
Its way better since i wear high filter computer glasses.
You just have to find out what stresses you all the time imo.
Good luck litte bro.
everyone shills that I should try out edibles. why? how do you guys enjoy edibles? I'm too scared of trying them out, because of one reason: it lasts TOO LONG. I already get anxiety/jitteriness after smoking a joint for the first 20-30 minutes a lot of the times, after that, the initial come-up ends and I can handle it and even enjoy it. for this reason I only smoke weed when I've had a beer or two so I'm calmer. also after 1-2 hours the initial "high" has passed and it's just a comfy mellow trip. edibles however, last for HOURS, the dosage is very sensitive to weight and I've had friends mess up because of this, accidentally eat too large of a dose and then "enjoy hell" for 4-6 hours.
with smoking a joint, if you mess up and smoke too much, or smoke on a bad day/bad environment, worst that's gonna happen is you're gonna have a short panic attack during the come-up/peak of the effect, or just very strong anxiety BUT IT WILL ONLY LAST 1 HOUR MAX. with edibles, you're in for a hellish nightmare for the entire day almost.
Get them from a dispensary if possible, they're standardized. The kind you make yourself can be...interesting if you don't know what you're doing. What I do is take one, cook up my dinner, which right now is about 1 lb chicken thighs, veggies, and a baked potato, and veg out eating it in the evening. Then I'm in bed at around 10 and sleep great. But you're right, if you take too much it is not a good experience. I prefer it to smoking because I don't want who knows what in my lungs but that's just me.
well if smoking always gives you anxiety edibles won't be any better, it's just not a drug for you imo
Eat shrooms instead
I'm probably going to try them this spring with a bro that already has experience with them, nobody that has tried them ever told me that they've regretted it (at moderate doses of course) and I think that mushrooms are cool in general
Eat 1.5-2g. You'll get everything you want out of the trip: visuals, open and closed eyes, euphoria, deep introspection. You can't go wrong with that dose. Below 1g, it might be underwhelming. Over 3g, it might be too much for your first time.
thanks, that's in line with what my friend claimed so that's reassuring. 1.5g sounds like a nice sweet spot
The dose makes the poison - Paracelsus
Weed isn't weed anymore, the breeding of the recent decades has multiplied the THC content by up to factors of 50. Imagine if every beer was 250% proof, imagine if every cup of coffee has 80 espressos in it. People need to fucking calm down with the arms race.
like with some energy drinks being far stronger than one espresso, up to 3-4x
People always go overboard with drugs
But the problem isn't that people are smoking 50 joints, it's that one joint might have 50 times the strength and people aren't even realizing it.
true, they talk about weed being natural but then they smoke selectively bred stuff that's far too strong
you're telling me all selectively bred plants aren't natural? so all fruit is not natural?
woah I can't brain work your logic
I agree marijuana is too strong nowadays, your statement is just retarded.
A lot of fruits aren't natural
But sweetness and good flavor and ease of growing doesn't come close to near the unnaturalness of a strong molecule becoming amplified a hundredfold
Not that a plant being natural means that it's good for you, just look at datura
Marijuana is not perfect. But it’s a much better alternative to painkillers for people who need that sort of relief, has long term health benefits due to its anti inflammatory properties, and is actually really cheap now. Anyone who’s smoking everyday should probably stop for the sake of their memory but I’ve been a weekend smoker for a long time and have no issues with advancing my education or career and living a generally productive day to day life
Pretty much this. It's the least damaging way to get a buzz on by far, especially if you ingest it alternatively instead of smoking it. However like all other things that are intoxicants: overdoing it has bad results, it's just takes a good bit more overdoing it than other substances do is all.
I had my gfs mother switch from casually using Percocets to using weed gummies, there’s a lot of under the radar middle aged whites who lean on opiates hard but still have negative preconceptions about marijuana use. I think for those people using edibles instead would be a better way to wean off
Bullshit If everyone would say it is good for you how come its illegal in most places. OP is a gay as usual.
he does not know
Speaking from experience (former daily smoker of 13 years, now 5 months sober), weed fucks with your REM sleep. Your endurance drop significantly. Your mental sharpness becomes dulled, making conversations with others difficult. Fucks up your sperm too.
I've kicked many bad habits, but quitting weed was one of the hardest things I've ever done. Don't let anyone tell you it's not addictive.
Snoop is the reason zoomers are weed addicts
Best thing I've bought for cannabis moderation
>forces you to use small amounts of flower
>vapes the weed so you don't inhale ash and tar
>smell is 1/5 of smoking so you don't reek like a degenerate
Elev8r vape bong. Hits Clean
Anyone who has ever taken weed knows this to be true but they just deny it to justify their addiction.
Weed has it's place for niche circumstances such as insomnia, PTSD, people who need to stimulate appetite.
Using it recreationally though, ruins your sleep, makes you lazy and lethargic, highly addicting as well (not in the same sense as nicotine which alters your brain but in the sense that you get addicted to the feeling of being high because truthfully it's pretty awesome). Doing weed like once in a blue moon, every couple of months when you have a couple days off is fine but any more than that and it really isn't worth the downsides.
>Doing weed like once in a blue moon, every couple of months when you have a couple days off is fine
Doing weed without tolerance sucks. It feels weird and disorienting and you can't think straight. I have to be acclimated to enjoy it. The thing is when you vape (not smoke, vape) daily your tolerance gets so strong that all the negative effects are marginalized because your body becomes so effective at processing weed, it's a "new normal" and you're immune to the daily stresses that many normies have on a daily basis, like taking care of children and stupid shit like that.
I I also do intense hot yoga workouts in a sauna 2x a week which purges my system so I can get high again.
Marijuana is my Holy Shield against Clown World. Please make an AI art out of that. Pepe holding a shield with a giant potleaf on it to protect anons from an army of new world order ESG clown puppets
Do you not see how you are literally planning out your days so that you can continuously get high lol.
Doing weed without tolerance is fine it simply means you need to use less weed. Once you know what to expect from the initial shock of your first few highs then it absolutely wouldn't be disorienting... Instead of taking 40MG you simply need to take 10MG and you literally get the same effect.
It just sounds like ur addicted m8, although I am pretty sure I have taken the b8.
>Huberman
Do the opposite of what garden gnomes tell you to do.
But the garden gnomes tell me to listen to hip hop music and smoke weed and watch porn
Weed is the best pre and post workout supplement
So what was it called before that?
I've been sober from weed for 4 months so I wouldn't have to stress about a piss test when I got a new job. I've been just as lazy and unproductive in my sobriety as I was when I got stoned every night after work, only now it takes me longer to fall asleep.
>182 posts
>not 1 body posted
So we have concluded weed is only as bad as you let it be. It can be lie ruining or it can be a chill pill. Any and all posts that do not have body support this post. /thread.
Smoked weed almost every day for 7 years.
It’s not a good habit to start. The answer lies somewhere between the two polarities of this thread (imagine that). You can use weed as a coping mechanism and be a victim to marijuana or you can use it in moderation and not let it steer your life. Someone in here mentioned how if you are going to use it it shouldn’t be done while you’re in a negative state of mind/avoiding the realities of your shitty life and I think that’s very true.
All things in moderation
>it shouldn’t be done while you’re in a negative state of mind/avoiding the realities of your shitty life
fuck me i guess
Weed obviously isn’t healthy, but if you’re using it on the weekend as an alternative to alcohol it is definitely preferable. I can literally be perfectly normal and well rested the day after cannabis, but alcohol fucks me up for the best part of a week.