Yo why is it so much harder to sleep if I have a tough workout? I eat and drink plenty afterwards. I get my body temperature down and I coom. But I just can't fall asleep and then it destroys the next few days. Should I just stop going to failure on big lifts?
I have a lot of fatigue sometimes because I lift heavy and do a lot of cardio. Fried myself last Sunday and could not get to sleep. Ended up having to take NyQuil to finally pass out.
Is it irresponsible to take my brother's antipsychotics to help me sleep?
Nah
Same here. I get it after going to failure or after long runs. Internet says it's cortisol. I hope there is some adaptation happening long term that makes you more resilient and able to handle bigger volumes without feeling super stressed.
used to do hard cardio like 3 miles a day running as a fatty while lifting, undereating and working on my feet ~12 hours a day. Was in a boxing gym on my days off which is also intense cardio and getting punched hard in the face.
Needless to say I was fried all the time. Weak and not making gains nearly as fast as I could have. Now that I only lift and do so hard and only for ~60 minutes I make way more gains and feel way better around the clock relative to that time in my life.
literally says in the picture that deadlifts are bad for you.
You can read that?
im not an eyelet so yes
i have ocular fatigue trying to read your image
Weird. I sleep 9 hrs like a baby after a heavy training session
Yeah that seems like the logical thing for a body to do but I refuse for some reason. Weird, maybe it thinks I'm at war
>Weird, maybe it thinks I'm at war
basically this
your body is tweaking out because it thinks you are constantly under attack
learn to meditate/deep breathe to chill out
Its loneliness, lack of pussy. Your body cant comprehend how you never have any physical contact or affection, you must be in a hostile, unsafe place. Forever.
Cope.
>Its loneliness, lack of pussy. Your body cant comprehend how you never have any physical contact or affection, you must be in a hostile, unsafe place. Forever.
shiiieeeeeeettt.....
I can fall asleep but I usually wake up between 2 and 3 am after lifting and I’m wide awake and get back to sleep for a while. Happens quite often I don’t understand why.
Do you take pre-workout?
Cooming is like flushing your vitality down the toilet. It will weaken your willpower, take your strength for a few days, and make it feel like it takes more effort to do everything. Cooming feels awesome but it's actually terrible for your body. God's a fricking weirdo and he's never going to explain himself.
Even if all that shit was true it wouldn't affect OP's sleep.
it does.
not cooming makes you have better and fuller sleep
you're a fricking weirdo
I only experience this from jerking off. Sex invigorates me. My life improved 10 fold when I stopped jerking off / watching porn
Obsessed with sleep and sleep quality to recuperate from said workout, and taking into account previous episodes, leads to precipitation and eventually insomnia. ie. you are triggering some kind of flight or fight response.
Are you taking a preworkout or some type of stimulant before your workout like caffeine? Also, what time do you workout?
If I’m working out at night, I usually try to skip using pre because even if I push myself to exhaustion it still messes with my sleep afterwards. Even the nonstim stuff tends to keep my mind more active when I’m trying to fall asleep
Yep, don't overstress, and just avoid going to failure on heavy compounds.
>coom
not helping
That or you should deload maybe take a mesocycle with more isolations and keeping the compounds only at whatever volume will stop them from going down. There's a lot of ways to manage fatigue and it's a bigger deal the more cardio you do. Lot of people only go to failure once every couple of weeks on 1 set to see if they can add weight. People that go past failure like in pause sets usually have to stick around the lower end of volume.
>Lot of people only go to failure once every couple of weeks on 1 set to see if they can add weight
Holy shit, really? I've been going to failure 2 days a week for 2 pull and 2 push sets each day. Maybe that's why I wake up after 4h regardless of time I fall asleep
Could be but I have no clue what kind of volume you're actually doing that with. It's probably not the straw that broke the camels back but there's probably at least one or two other things that are contributing.
People also don't eat an absolute shitload. I just prepped 2lbs of chicken to fry as a sandwich between meals that I'd have with fries on a bulk.
If you aren't way too full before your pwo meal and are hungry at all during the day you aren't getting optimum gains. Also i eat 1lb of meat a day way too easily, and nobody emphasizes carb timing or fat intake for really maximizing hormones.
>from your pwo meal
Basically who gives a shit about gaining a lil too much fat. If it's not a rest day then go ham on food and just do some extra machines and dbs.
Interesting that you didn't mention going to failure on legs. Bench and rows are piss easy to to take to failure.
You probably aren't used to the caffeine you use as pwo.
If you buy a heart rate monitor and monitor it during these nights and nights you don't train, you'll find that your heart rate is lower before, during, and after sleep on the nights you don't train or have rested for a few days. Your HRV will be significantly different too.
The answer is to stop training to the same intensity, because you are not recovering. Your training and progress will be better when you sleep better, even if you're not training to failure.
It's harder for me if I'm cutting. I need something to eat usually which takes me over my daily calorie limit, but I still lose weight
stop with moronic compounds, do everything unilaterally if possible, do less more often - next question bot
Lifting heavy weight increses amount of cortisol and adrenaline in blood. These 2 things will ruin your sleep. Also if you use any caffeine for preworkout thay ruins things too. Sleep is like the 3rd most anabolic thing you can do after lifting and eating as natty so put more priority in it. Going to failure is not worth it for the marginal benefit it goves compared to staying couple reps in reserve vs massive catabolism poor sleep does to you.
>Lifting heavy weight increses amount of cortisol and adrenaline in blood
Iirc this is a short term effect but long term it reduces them?
If I lifted at night I would get 0 sleep
I have this exact same problem, developed in early 20's. completely normal before this
>TRT helped dramatically
>low dose HGH also helps
bottom line is you just cant push yourself too hard in the gym, find your sweet spot, recognize when you are overtraining. for me it means i can't do any cardio, or CNS taxing movements.
I used to be able to fast all day till 4pm then lift heavy compounds, go to work at a supermarket lifting heavy boxes till 10pm and be perfectly fine not overtraining. then i hit 20 and became like OP, it did start after i had a hep B vaccine bad reaction so i have no idea wtf happened.
dont coom? are you stupid?
Your muscles are too tense. Get a foam roller or massage gun, do some yoga poses. Magnesium, glycine and ashwagandha help with sleep as well
>Yo why is it so much harder to sleep if I have a tough workout?
Don't know what you are talking about, I feel like passing out and taking a nap after a workout.
I slept like absolute dogshit last night because of this. Somehow windy weather and sharply rising barometric pressure gets me wired and eventually exhausted. Combine that with being beat after a workout and I'm rolling around and getting short periods of sleep with fricked up feverish dreams all night.
This didn't start happening until I let myself go fitness-wise, I assume my CNS is weak as shit
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