Tell this to normies or post this anywhere else and 99.9% of the responses you’ll get are along the lines of >incel >Omg you’re insane you’re so crazy you literally sound crazy right now it’s all about personality >no way it’s about your personality I mean look that’s how I got my wife
(his wife is obese and 2/10 in the face with a slew of mental issues and still cheats on him) >nah uh just be confident
(why would you want to be confident while you’re fat? Sounds like cope to me. It’s 100x easier and more effortless to be confident while you know you’re in good health and look your best at least in my experience)
I don’t even say this to anyone outside of here anymore. I keep my fitness a secret now and if questioned I just give a generic “genetics I guess idk”. It’s so much more than carrying yourself better too. That’s only 20-30% of it. The rest is 100% halo effect. And it goes beyond women. Employers, your bros even, strangers on the street, etc. all treat you differently based on how you look. I do the same. Everyone does.
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Also more to your point just to further elaborate. My experience with women has been >be over 15% >disgust or invisible >be 15% or less >have women approaching me, hitting on me, staring, get asked out fairly often (it’s not common at all for these holes to initiate or be the one to ask the man out) >get fat again, invisible again >get lean again, suddenly b***hes coming out the woodwork b***hes who were rude to me previously while fat trying to be all happy and cutesy with me suddenly
And my friend group considers me an butthole for not taking interest in these b***hes after they were rude to me in the past. They’ve told me quite literally “you were a better person before losing the weight you think you’re hot shit now” because I told several of these women they were annoying me when they suddenly switched up. Idk if it’s bucket crap mentality but my point is you know the truth, I know the truth, and you cannot say it outside of here.
People keeping memeing this on IST but its very true.
I am 5'7, so you cant say "YOURE PROB TALL BRO"
I am 36 years old... I have been lifting since I was 15, I can tell you now, in the times when I am lean (under 10-12% bodyfat) Ive actually had consistent daily attention from members of the opposite sex, and this goes through my 20s and 30s. In the times where I say "frick it" and stop caring about being lean, and go back to 20-25% bodyfat or so, I get 0 attention from the opposite sex.
I will also include that the way I dress when I am lean is also better, obviously you can dress far better at 10-12% bodyfat than you can at 20-25% bodyfat, and I dress in a way that shows off my leanness so its not hidden.
I will also include the fact my face looks way better at 10-12% than it does at 20-25%. I kind of look like a typical old fat guy at 20-25% facially, but at 10-12% my face gets a defined jawline and very masculine look.
So yeah you could say the lower bodyfat improving FACE and FASHION is whats causing the massively increased attention from women when at 10-12% bodyfat, a not necessarily how my body looks at 10-12% bodyfat.
Bros I need some advice, I have been bulking since beginning of 2022. Went from 52kg to almost 70kg (5'7) rn, but I have become 20%bf rn. But the problem is my strength is shit (50/70/105/145kg) and I am afraid I am slowing myself down by becoming lean. But I am tired of muh bulking, I just want to get a chiseled face, abs and mires like I used to when I was low bodyfat.
What if I cut for a few months and start bulking again after getting lean, start from a clean slate once again? Because I have a feeling that after a certain bodyfat level, you will gain more fat and less muscle while bulking if you're not lean. My gut has started protruding, I feel like roping.
Anon take it from me, someone who was in a similar position and made the wrong choice, BEING LEAN SHOULD ALWAYS COME FIRST. Strength should come 3rd. Lean, muscle mass, strength. Especially true when you’re past 15% bodyfat. Don’t worry about it. Get yourself to 12%, then run maintenance and unironically run SL 5x5 for 6 months. Maybe consider a slight 300 cal surplus.
T. Was in your position, was afraid to cut out of fear of losing my strength because it would dip when I unitard a deficit. Ended up getting fatter, and fatter. Then became depressed and stopped lifting became fat and weak. Whereas had I just cut the 30lbs I had to lose before it was too bad, I’d have more than likely regained any lost strength quickly, and been able to stay lean and get even stronger over time.
Set your ego aside, welcome the strength lost if you have any, get lean, then worry about gaining strength.
Thank you very much for your advice anon, I had just decided 30mins ago that I am gonna start cutting from next week. Will figure out my calories and cardio plan meanwhile.
I came to the conclusion that no matter how much I chase strength, there will always be a bigger and taller guy who will be outlifting me. I'd rather take advantage of my naturally not-so-big frame and strive towards maximising my aesthetic potential. And yeah you're right, after a while that extra body fat does take a toll on your mental health, I had been forcing myself to go to the gym for the last 1 month and probably was on the verge of quitting the gym if I were to continue.
It's a simple fact that being around 10% bf saps your energy and caps your performance.
This is objective fact.
Those guys are only skinny because of weight classes.
Their performance would be way better if they didn't do dangerous cuts
8 months ago
Anonymous
Frankly, fighting sports should be based on height and not weight
It's unfair that a fighter can go on an extreme cut and beat the shit out of someone half his size just because he's unhealthily thin
8 months ago
Anonymous
Shit!
Could've broken that record if my performance wasn't capped by being so lean!
Tell this to normies or post this anywhere else and 99.9% of the responses you’ll get are along the lines of >incel >Omg you’re insane you’re so crazy you literally sound crazy right now it’s all about personality >no way it’s about your personality I mean look that’s how I got my wife
(his wife is obese and 2/10 in the face with a slew of mental issues and still cheats on him) >nah uh just be confident
(why would you want to be confident while you’re fat? Sounds like cope to me. It’s 100x easier and more effortless to be confident while you know you’re in good health and look your best at least in my experience)
I don’t even say this to anyone outside of here anymore. I keep my fitness a secret now and if questioned I just give a generic “genetics I guess idk”. It’s so much more than carrying yourself better too. That’s only 20-30% of it. The rest is 100% halo effect. And it goes beyond women. Employers, your bros even, strangers on the street, etc. all treat you differently based on how you look. I do the same. Everyone does.
Kek’d
People do actually believe this. I had one friend say something along those lines. He mentioned frequency. The older I get the less patience I have, the harder I have to bite my tongue to not tell these people shit like “oh really? So was your frequency off when bonnie got facialed at that party and you forgave her?”
Normies are so disgusting I have no clue why I maintain these friendships with these pathetic losers we share no similar values whatsoever.
you are literally invisible to women if you are over 12% bodyfat
Also more to your point just to further elaborate. My experience with women has been >be over 15% >disgust or invisible >be 15% or less >have women approaching me, hitting on me, staring, get asked out fairly often (it’s not common at all for these holes to initiate or be the one to ask the man out) >get fat again, invisible again >get lean again, suddenly b***hes coming out the woodwork b***hes who were rude to me previously while fat trying to be all happy and cutesy with me suddenly
And my friend group considers me an butthole for not taking interest in these b***hes after they were rude to me in the past. They’ve told me quite literally “you were a better person before losing the weight you think you’re hot shit now” because I told several of these women they were annoying me when they suddenly switched up. Idk if it’s bucket crap mentality but my point is you know the truth, I know the truth, and you cannot say it outside of here.
Absolutely true in my case. It's as if they had a fricking bodyfat scanner. Whenever I have been over 12%, I get almost no mires. When I'm in the single digits, however, I cannot go outside without getting oggled at at least once.
People keeping memeing this on IST but its very true.
I am 5'7, so you cant say "YOURE PROB TALL BRO"
I am 36 years old... I have been lifting since I was 15, I can tell you now, in the times when I am lean (under 10-12% bodyfat) Ive actually had consistent daily attention from members of the opposite sex, and this goes through my 20s and 30s. In the times where I say "frick it" and stop caring about being lean, and go back to 20-25% bodyfat or so, I get 0 attention from the opposite sex.
I will also include that the way I dress when I am lean is also better, obviously you can dress far better at 10-12% bodyfat than you can at 20-25% bodyfat, and I dress in a way that shows off my leanness so its not hidden.
I will also include the fact my face looks way better at 10-12% than it does at 20-25%. I kind of look like a typical old fat guy at 20-25% facially, but at 10-12% my face gets a defined jawline and very masculine look.
So yeah you could say the lower bodyfat improving FACE and FASHION is whats causing the massively increased attention from women when at 10-12% bodyfat, a not necessarily how my body looks at 10-12% bodyfat.
Abs are the COPE of the manet
As a guy who is 6"3' it doesn't matter if I'm a little chubby, women love me
Only matters if you're morbidly obese
I guarantee I get more pussy than your typical 5" something manlet with abs
I’m 6’4 and I’ve gotten so much pussy that I used to think I was bad at getting pussy because I didn’t get laid over a weekend. I’ve been cut, I’ve had a belly (dirty bulk), the only thing that mattered is I wasn’t weak af. When I was a skinny dyel, I only got laid like once or twice a year. Now I’m married with kids so I’m outta the game.
>Long conversations with b***hes is a thing of the past. Have to keep up with the times
homie you're up at 10pm texting a b***h on whatsapp and still you can't fricking maintain a conversation, if she's that "busy" to get to know you you're never smashing lolé
you're up at TEN PM, a time of the day when quite literally no one could potentially be busy, yet the girl takes TWENTY FIVE minutes to say 'haha nice' back to you, you will not smash, quit coping, get on gear and try again next year
8 months ago
Anonymous
>checked
I've been rawdoggin her for weeks buddy
>posts gay text on /fit for validation >gets called gay >responds immediately
You clearly care. Congrats, IST broke your brain.
I've got a break after class that I can use to shitpost on IST to amuse myself
8 months ago
Anonymous
It’s pretty obvious that he already fricked her. Look at the compliment, that’s her trying to get him to show more interest.
>posts gay text on /fit for validation >gets called gay >responds immediately
You clearly care. Congrats, IST broke your brain.
what a boring ass conversation jesus, glad I'm into fricked up hoes
>Long conversations with b***hes is a thing of the past. Have to keep up with the times
homie you're up at 10pm texting a b***h on whatsapp and still you can't fricking maintain a conversation, if she's that "busy" to get to know you you're never smashing lolé
you're up at TEN PM, a time of the day when quite literally no one could potentially be busy, yet the girl takes TWENTY FIVE minutes to say 'haha nice' back to you, you will not smash, quit coping, get on gear and try again next year
Lmao it's so obvious these days when an incel gets tilted just because some stranger on the net has a healthy sex life.
Actual elliot rodger tier lunacy.
Once you're skinny, if you embrace the power and actually want fatties to die you will get a crazy cardio bunny gf and you will be happy until she snaps after 5-10 years and a newer younger crazy cardio bunny gf latches onto you
You have to really get skinny and hate fatties tho
Nah
I know a guy who is about 5"9', obsessed with diet and exercise and all that beta lookmaxing and photoshopping shit.
I've seen the girls he dates, every one of them is a fat 2/10 bawd.
His name is Glen.
Height is literally the most important thing when it comes to attracting women.
Girls don't like little goblin men, no matter how ripped they are.
Its this simple
status > face & weight > height > money > everything else > personality
It's funny the shit I've said and yet it worked. The absolute wieneriest shit, not even the real me but it worked. and also I've just done plain hellos that worked
I had a married MILF let me frick her in a bathroom, then she bought me dinner and a hotel room, sucked me dry, fricked me till she ruined the goddamn bed sheets, all while talking about her husband was going to tell she had a bigger dick in her, and I was over 12% BF. >be good looking >be taller than average >have muscle mass >don't be super fat
I never get to 20% bf but I get the most mires and compliments when I am peak bulk and just look my biggest. As long as your arms and face appear to be lean and they only see you clothed in that moment, size trumps leanness.
I know, I got down to 10% this summer and women were actively flirting with me calling me good looking handsome and cute even though they know I have a fiance
The halo effect is very real. It's not uncommon for people to ask if I'm a model or suggest I become one. Even the waiter at Cracker Barrel asked if I model. It's so surreal being an invisible fat moron for years and suddenly after losing the weight I'm treated with reverence and respect. it's nice, but it also makes humanity seem especially myopic and callous.
Sometimes I wish I could do pic related and leave this species of mean spirited apes behind.
>literally invisible to women if you are over 12% bodyfat
Ridiculous. You're obviously visible at <12% body fat and arguably more visible with higher body fat. More fat = more surface area. Try walking into a women's dressing room and see how that goes.
>you are literally invisible to women if you are over 12% bodyfat
And if you don't train. If you're a frail skelly just walking around the town, you won't get noticed either even though you have -2% bodyfat.
Life may start at 12% bodyfat, but you get mires and attention only if you also train. >inb4 why
You have more muscle, more definition, and you're more confident because of it. You walk up straighter and more proudly, cause your back hurts from squats n deadlifts. Your smell changes, cause more t and different diet. You look fresher, cause serious lifting forces you to have a good sleep schedule. Lifting may seem like it's only about muscles, but its collateral effects are massive.
So true im still well over 12% BF. But I I have lost 15lbs in the last month with fasting and my face looks less bloated and i notice women looking at me more and older milf trying to talk to me now. Nobody even looked at me before.
>I I have lost 15lbs in the last month with fasting and my face looks less bloated and i notice women looking at me more
Frick yeah. Go dude. This is how it works.
I gained a bunch of weight over the past couple years after having major surgery. Went from 170 with abs to about 220 with less muscle. Gf broke up with me about 10 months ago. Now I’m 205 and have regained some muscle (can pull 5.5 plate again). I feel emotionally ready to date, but my confidence is shot and don’t feel like I’d be attractive to any women. Anybody been in a similar situation?
>yuck who is that fat guy over there >don't look he's definitely an incel haha brb gonna go suck off a skinny crack head in the porta potty >you go girl
Real
Powerlifters hate her because she spoke the truth
Bros I need some advice, I have been bulking since beginning of 2022. Went from 52kg to almost 70kg (5'7) rn, but I have become 20%bf rn. But the problem is my strength is shit (50/70/105/145kg) and I am afraid I am slowing myself down by becoming lean. But I am tired of muh bulking, I just want to get a chiseled face, abs and mires like I used to when I was low bodyfat.
Not enough.
Im the guy that made that post (36 years old)
Peak of my bulk was 95kg, and I ended up a lean 75kg and i started from 65kg.
Though I have 20 years lifting.
What if I cut for a few months and start bulking again after getting lean, start from a clean slate once again? Because I have a feeling that after a certain bodyfat level, you will gain more fat and less muscle while bulking if you're not lean. My gut has started protruding, I feel like roping.
Anon take it from me, someone who was in a similar position and made the wrong choice, BEING LEAN SHOULD ALWAYS COME FIRST. Strength should come 3rd. Lean, muscle mass, strength. Especially true when you’re past 15% bodyfat. Don’t worry about it. Get yourself to 12%, then run maintenance and unironically run SL 5x5 for 6 months. Maybe consider a slight 300 cal surplus.
T. Was in your position, was afraid to cut out of fear of losing my strength because it would dip when I unitard a deficit. Ended up getting fatter, and fatter. Then became depressed and stopped lifting became fat and weak. Whereas had I just cut the 30lbs I had to lose before it was too bad, I’d have more than likely regained any lost strength quickly, and been able to stay lean and get even stronger over time.
Set your ego aside, welcome the strength lost if you have any, get lean, then worry about gaining strength.
Thank you very much for your advice anon, I had just decided 30mins ago that I am gonna start cutting from next week. Will figure out my calories and cardio plan meanwhile.
I came to the conclusion that no matter how much I chase strength, there will always be a bigger and taller guy who will be outlifting me. I'd rather take advantage of my naturally not-so-big frame and strive towards maximising my aesthetic potential. And yeah you're right, after a while that extra body fat does take a toll on your mental health, I had been forcing myself to go to the gym for the last 1 month and probably was on the verge of quitting the gym if I were to continue.
>BEING LEAN SHOULD ALWAYS COME FIRST
I mean, unless you're an athlete rather than a literal wiener sucking vain homosexual loser who lifts for girls
Yeah man boxers, wrestlers, MMA fighters, Oly lifters, powerlifters never lean out for their weight classes.
It's a simple fact that being around 10% bf saps your energy and caps your performance.
This is objective fact.
Those guys are only skinny because of weight classes.
Their performance would be way better if they didn't do dangerous cuts
Frankly, fighting sports should be based on height and not weight
It's unfair that a fighter can go on an extreme cut and beat the shit out of someone half his size just because he's unhealthily thin
Shit!
Could've broken that record if my performance wasn't capped by being so lean!
It's true. I'm posting from the girls locker room because i walked in totally unseen
Don't forget the camouflage you get from from your fat converting your testosterone to estrogen.
don't forget the camouflage you get from just tweeting that you are a woman
>oh haha stacy looks like i do get to see your breasts after all lol too bad you didn't send nudes when asked huh
Tell this to normies or post this anywhere else and 99.9% of the responses you’ll get are along the lines of
>incel
>Omg you’re insane you’re so crazy you literally sound crazy right now it’s all about personality
>no way it’s about your personality I mean look that’s how I got my wife
(his wife is obese and 2/10 in the face with a slew of mental issues and still cheats on him)
>nah uh just be confident
(why would you want to be confident while you’re fat? Sounds like cope to me. It’s 100x easier and more effortless to be confident while you know you’re in good health and look your best at least in my experience)
I don’t even say this to anyone outside of here anymore. I keep my fitness a secret now and if questioned I just give a generic “genetics I guess idk”. It’s so much more than carrying yourself better too. That’s only 20-30% of it. The rest is 100% halo effect. And it goes beyond women. Employers, your bros even, strangers on the street, etc. all treat you differently based on how you look. I do the same. Everyone does.
You FOOL! Its all about vibrational frequency. Havnt you witnessed people been drawn magnetically to bubbly/cheery personality types!
Kek’d
People do actually believe this. I had one friend say something along those lines. He mentioned frequency. The older I get the less patience I have, the harder I have to bite my tongue to not tell these people shit like “oh really? So was your frequency off when bonnie got facialed at that party and you forgave her?”
Normies are so disgusting I have no clue why I maintain these friendships with these pathetic losers we share no similar values whatsoever.
Also more to your point just to further elaborate. My experience with women has been
>be over 15%
>disgust or invisible
>be 15% or less
>have women approaching me, hitting on me, staring, get asked out fairly often (it’s not common at all for these holes to initiate or be the one to ask the man out)
>get fat again, invisible again
>get lean again, suddenly b***hes coming out the woodwork b***hes who were rude to me previously while fat trying to be all happy and cutesy with me suddenly
And my friend group considers me an butthole for not taking interest in these b***hes after they were rude to me in the past. They’ve told me quite literally “you were a better person before losing the weight you think you’re hot shit now” because I told several of these women they were annoying me when they suddenly switched up. Idk if it’s bucket crap mentality but my point is you know the truth, I know the truth, and you cannot say it outside of here.
Porn and prostitutes. Problem solved.
>Porn and prostitutes
technically redundant
Sounds like a White Pill
A lot of ugly men can be ugly-hot skinny men. I'm a chubby virgin btw.
Absolutely true in my case. It's as if they had a fricking bodyfat scanner. Whenever I have been over 12%, I get almost no mires. When I'm in the single digits, however, I cannot go outside without getting oggled at at least once.
my dad was a fat broke frick with a lazy eye and he pulled insane amounts of pussy just by being good at conversation, charismatic and funny
Ok samegay try to make it less obvious
People keeping memeing this on IST but its very true.
I am 5'7, so you cant say "YOURE PROB TALL BRO"
I am 36 years old... I have been lifting since I was 15, I can tell you now, in the times when I am lean (under 10-12% bodyfat) Ive actually had consistent daily attention from members of the opposite sex, and this goes through my 20s and 30s. In the times where I say "frick it" and stop caring about being lean, and go back to 20-25% bodyfat or so, I get 0 attention from the opposite sex.
I will also include that the way I dress when I am lean is also better, obviously you can dress far better at 10-12% bodyfat than you can at 20-25% bodyfat, and I dress in a way that shows off my leanness so its not hidden.
I will also include the fact my face looks way better at 10-12% than it does at 20-25%. I kind of look like a typical old fat guy at 20-25% facially, but at 10-12% my face gets a defined jawline and very masculine look.
So yeah you could say the lower bodyfat improving FACE and FASHION is whats causing the massively increased attention from women when at 10-12% bodyfat, a not necessarily how my body looks at 10-12% bodyfat.
My bro is like 35% or more and has a cute gf. He doesn't even have a job, has half his teeth, and is huge nerd.
Explain that.
Abs are the COPE of the manet
As a guy who is 6"3' it doesn't matter if I'm a little chubby, women love me
Only matters if you're morbidly obese
I guarantee I get more pussy than your typical 5" something manlet with abs
I’m 6’4 and I’ve gotten so much pussy that I used to think I was bad at getting pussy because I didn’t get laid over a weekend. I’ve been cut, I’ve had a belly (dirty bulk), the only thing that mattered is I wasn’t weak af. When I was a skinny dyel, I only got laid like once or twice a year. Now I’m married with kids so I’m outta the game.
I'm like 20%+ and chicks are still lining up to slob on the knob
More like 30% judging by that picture, fat-breasts
They're called pecs. When you start benching more than 135 you might grow some
Long conversations with b***hes is a thing of the past. Have to keep up with the times
>Long conversations with b***hes is a thing of the past. Have to keep up with the times
homie you're up at 10pm texting a b***h on whatsapp and still you can't fricking maintain a conversation, if she's that "busy" to get to know you you're never smashing lolé
>up at 10pm
Brother when the frick do you think I have time for women if not in the evenings lmao
you're up at TEN PM, a time of the day when quite literally no one could potentially be busy, yet the girl takes TWENTY FIVE minutes to say 'haha nice' back to you, you will not smash, quit coping, get on gear and try again next year
>checked
I've been rawdoggin her for weeks buddy
I've got a break after class that I can use to shitpost on IST to amuse myself
It’s pretty obvious that he already fricked her. Look at the compliment, that’s her trying to get him to show more interest.
so when you push more than 135 you get b***h breasts like that? nice anon, nice breasts
what a boring ass conversation jesus, glad I'm into fricked up hoes
>it was a pretty subpar sesh
>emoji
modern men real think lifting weights prevents them from being homosexuals
I play the game to ensure a steady supply of good pussy. I don't a damn what you gays think about my methods
>posts gay text on /fit for validation
>gets called gay
>responds immediately
You clearly care. Congrats, IST broke your brain.
Lmao it's so obvious these days when an incel gets tilted just because some stranger on the net has a healthy sex life.
Actual elliot rodger tier lunacy.
huh what?
Once you're skinny, if you embrace the power and actually want fatties to die you will get a crazy cardio bunny gf and you will be happy until she snaps after 5-10 years and a newer younger crazy cardio bunny gf latches onto you
You have to really get skinny and hate fatties tho
Nah
I know a guy who is about 5"9', obsessed with diet and exercise and all that beta lookmaxing and photoshopping shit.
I've seen the girls he dates, every one of them is a fat 2/10 bawd.
His name is Glen.
Height is literally the most important thing when it comes to attracting women.
Girls don't like little goblin men, no matter how ripped they are.
I got hot girlfriends when fat
I got hot girlfriends when thin
I got hot girlfriends when fit
Hmm, maybe you are just a socially moronic autist?
Its this simple
status > face & weight > height > money > everything else > personality
It's funny the shit I've said and yet it worked. The absolute wieneriest shit, not even the real me but it worked. and also I've just done plain hellos that worked
>status > face & weight > height
99.99% of women in the west will swipe left if you're less than 6"0'
That is some serious delusion
Ohh I was talking more about in person
Yeah heights a prereq for most
I had a married MILF let me frick her in a bathroom, then she bought me dinner and a hotel room, sucked me dry, fricked me till she ruined the goddamn bed sheets, all while talking about her husband was going to tell she had a bigger dick in her, and I was over 12% BF.
>be good looking
>be taller than average
>have muscle mass
>don't be super fat
Not really
What bf percentage do you think I am at?
50%
maybe 13-15
Is this the current incel doomer thread?
you're on IST. that is every thread.
>we're all here forever
I never get to 20% bf but I get the most mires and compliments when I am peak bulk and just look my biggest. As long as your arms and face appear to be lean and they only see you clothed in that moment, size trumps leanness.
im 6'5 so i dont need to cope with muh gym to get women.
i get mired despite being 25% and dyel
hahaha
I'm 6'8"
Women notice me
I know, I got down to 10% this summer and women were actively flirting with me calling me good looking handsome and cute even though they know I have a fiance
The halo effect is very real. It's not uncommon for people to ask if I'm a model or suggest I become one. Even the waiter at Cracker Barrel asked if I model. It's so surreal being an invisible fat moron for years and suddenly after losing the weight I'm treated with reverence and respect. it's nice, but it also makes humanity seem especially myopic and callous.
Sometimes I wish I could do pic related and leave this species of mean spirited apes behind.
>literally invisible to women if you are over 12% bodyfat
Ridiculous. You're obviously visible at <12% body fat and arguably more visible with higher body fat. More fat = more surface area. Try walking into a women's dressing room and see how that goes.
>you are literally invisible to women if you are over 12% bodyfat
And if you don't train. If you're a frail skelly just walking around the town, you won't get noticed either even though you have -2% bodyfat.
Life may start at 12% bodyfat, but you get mires and attention only if you also train.
>inb4 why
You have more muscle, more definition, and you're more confident because of it. You walk up straighter and more proudly, cause your back hurts from squats n deadlifts. Your smell changes, cause more t and different diet. You look fresher, cause serious lifting forces you to have a good sleep schedule. Lifting may seem like it's only about muscles, but its collateral effects are massive.
Women don’t want fatties. Anyone who says different is a cardiolet
I am like 20% and have a gf. Plus i am 40 and a manlet. Stop believing that 4chins represents reality. Dumbass zoomer.
>I am like 20% and have a gf
the question is did you get her at 20%
40 is too old to understand modern dating
So true im still well over 12% BF. But I I have lost 15lbs in the last month with fasting and my face looks less bloated and i notice women looking at me more and older milf trying to talk to me now. Nobody even looked at me before.
>I I have lost 15lbs in the last month with fasting and my face looks less bloated and i notice women looking at me more
Frick yeah. Go dude. This is how it works.
I told my therapist about how 'life begins at 12%"
she didn't dispute me lol
I gained a bunch of weight over the past couple years after having major surgery. Went from 170 with abs to about 220 with less muscle. Gf broke up with me about 10 months ago. Now I’m 205 and have regained some muscle (can pull 5.5 plate again). I feel emotionally ready to date, but my confidence is shot and don’t feel like I’d be attractive to any women. Anybody been in a similar situation?
>yuck who is that fat guy over there
>don't look he's definitely an incel haha brb gonna go suck off a skinny crack head in the porta potty
>you go girl
Real
True, bones are sexier than muscles that have a ton of fat around them
I hate women so much
why are we even here? you obviously need social skills above all else. lifting alone is just so moronic.
just to suffer?
Is there any hope for me to get to 12% before summer?
Someone who got from 20 to sub 15 describe your diet, supplements and exercise.