You are overtrained
Stop working out for a week
Then start lifting every forth day or less
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Stop working out for a week
Then start lifting every forth day or less
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thanks mike
Everything about that picture is very based and no longer exists. This feeling, being able to work a part time job and blast steroids and own a house at the same time.
Why is HIT suddenly beeing spammed on this board? why the sudden popularity
the masses are finally ready for the truth
it's a sign of the end times as predicted in Malachi 4. "Behold, I will send you Mentzer the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the HIT, and the heart of the children to HIT, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse."
it's not HIT being spammed it's just mentzer. Mentzer and hamzalarping is the new derek and ball icing
it's just some 300 lb dyel chud that never posts body that is spamming these threads
I prefer HIT to the 64 working sets per muscle group in a 6x a week PPL meme
If you get some intensity in the two "warmup" sets prior to the one to failure you're more than good enough stimulus-wise without switching to the marginal program of actual HIT
This makes gym a 3x45min a week activity that with 2 cardio and 2 mobility/rehab/plyometrics session becomes your before lunch workout
You now have a minimalist yet complete and efficient workout routine that gives you a lot of time to practice an actual sport or outdoor activites
Because HIT looks edgy and hardcore, kinda like Westside in powerlifting
It’s probably just like one or two people, not that I mind since I’m a fan of Mentzer anyhow
I kinda do that. I workout once a week on the weekend because my job makes it hard to find time during the work week.
Though I don't do only one set per body part, but I do follow some of Mike's principles. Basically it's just a full body workout, 3-5 working sets per body part (overlaps included) go balls to the walls with intensity. And then just rest until the next weekend. It works.
I'm looking to experiment with a new program soon and the shilling for HIT has me thinking. Out of genuine interest to see if I'll try it, can you post body along with the routine you do now?
How much are you supposed to eat while switching to this?
If someone workout 3 times a week and eats 3000 calories for maintenance, how much do they eat to maintain while only training every forth day?
Reminder he once recommended training 3 times (1 push, 1 pull, 1 leg workout) over 12-15 days.
That's essentially a fullbody training every 2 weeks.
I am trying this fullbody every 2 weeks method right now, next Thursday will be my second workout.
I've already noticed my strength coming back big time in my first workout (I had regressed a lot over the past few months because life) and I also feel much healthier.
Go to failure, rest a lot, calibrate according to your training log.
Dang so go ham on full body, rest about two weeks, do it again? That would feel weird to get used to but I'd try it.
I've switched to two times a week basically just doing pull-ups and dips plus accessory work. I'm buying a squat rack soon so I can add squats in. I plan on doing the Colorado experiment when I'm lean.
Not him but for me, it's once per week. I do it in an almost circuit manner, like 2-4 "rounds" of 3-4 exercises. One pulling, one pushing, one legs or abs or whatever. The last round of exercises is usually with dumbbells and it's the most difficult, curl-to-press is my favorite.
And I allow myself time to recover, like the lungs and heart between each set, it usually takes a minute or less. No more than two sets per lift, true failure must be achieved on the second set. I literally couldn't imagine doing this more than once per week right now, it completely wrecks me. My lifts have all gone up and I'm down about 3-4% bodyfat from where I started 7 weeks ago.
sounds intense and fun, might give it a try. Thanks man
One of the basis of the system is that each workout doesn't tire you only in the area that you worked, such as the chest, but it also creates systemic fatigue. If fatigue is high for factors outside of training then you just do what you gotta do to recover (take more rest days).
That's why since each workout is very fatiguing in my already fatigued state, I'd rather just train fullbody, frick myself up and do it again when I'm fully rested.
Same
>calibrate according to training log
This is key. It took a few workouts for me to start really achieving failure on such heavy lifts. Man do I feel better though. Metabolism is crazy but I'm starting to dread each workout. Need more rest lmao
Figure out your new maintenance and eat slightly above it.
Mentzer was in the camp of bulking/cutting being a complete meme, and that you don't need to put on fat to put on muscle, which is what first made me realize he was speaking the truth.
Oops, for
this is such an annoying meme. it's being pushed as the new contrarian thing, pandering to IST's preference for reflexive contrarianism.
the way that mike mentzer trained to absolute failure is gonna be difficult for a lot of people, like what if you have noone to assist you if you're failing on reps and shit like that, or you don't wanna ignest amphetamines prior to workout?
its an obscure meme not esoteric knowledge. 3x full body as natty is bang on, sprinkle some cardio in for health and fun. simple as
also that huberman homosexual did it as a teenager
>like what if you have noone to assist you if you're failing on reps and shit like that
Cheat to the contracted position after reaching concentric failure, then reach static failure followed by eccentric failure. It's easier on some exercises than others so adjust what you do if you train alone. It's really not that complicated or difficult.
>or you don't wanna ignest amphetamines prior to workout?
Imagine falling for the "you need to be on meth to train hard" meme. Can you not rain without your preworkout either? Or coffee? Literally just work harder instead of coping.
i think it's fair at this point to ask also, where are the natural lifters (most of fit being natural) who train like this consistently? everyone seems to be on a comparatively high volume training program, it looks like bullshit to me man
>everyone seems to be on a comparatively high volume training program
Because that's the general zeitgeist. Roidtrannies can get big on any suboptimal routine and it's just easier for them to do high volume than go to mega intensity and risk going to snap city. 99% of people just blindly mimic them and that's what all the "natty" influencers push. You get more money telling people to subscribe to all your meme daily exercises, take all your supplements and preworkouts before your daily training etc etc than you do simply telling people to take 5 days off and get a life.
Also people who are attracted to "less is more" tend to be looking for the easy way out so they can't muster the intensity to train once a week and then blame the routine. That level of intensity is also a skill in itself that you get better at over time which can be offputting if you can't muster it immediately. It is a very difficult thing to do, and it's obviously not the only thing that works, but it does work and it kills the "oh i just dont have time to be healthy" excuse when you don't have to train two hours a day to be strong
>it looks like bullshit to me man
It makes logical sense. One intense set done to concentric, static and eccentric failure gives enough intensity and time under tension to stimulate adapation. Adaptation occurs after recovery so let yourself fully recover and adapt, locally and systemically, before training again.
Hitting arbitrary set numbers like 5 per week is just that, arbitrary. People often either stop when it hurts because they consider that "failure" or the stronger they get the more it taxes their nervous system which still recovers at the same rate and they find themselves hitting a wall beacuse they are overtraining.
All I can recommend is either try it, or at least listen to the people who tout it talk about it themselves like Jones, Yates and Mentzer and see what appeals to you.
Finally:
>most of fit being natural
Most of IST don't even lift
Be nice if the Mentzer shills posted body
There is not one study that back low frequency high intensity though
I just figure people in the past / farmboys today exercise every day and are strong. Simple as that
Yates' version of HIT seems less like a meme
agreed, 100% true on the psychology and the physical
yes. it is also arbitrary on what ones non working sets are as well as their working sets.
The essence of HIT is the 2/1/4 cadence (though 4/1/4 was recommended later) with controlled form and the set taken to failure with the heaviest weight one can manage for a rep range. Some of the stuff like doing negative reps after concentric failure or static holds until after eccentric failure are optional.
i thought it was 4 2 4 cadence. on his later heavy duty vids hes promoting 4 2 4 cadence
4/2/4 was Mike's cadence. Jones started with 2/1/4 and went to 4/1/4.
Im gonna experiment with them all. What one do you lik3 most anon?
>that huberman homosexual
seething
Nah I know when I’m overtrained.
>dies at 49 from heart problems
Yeah i think im good
HIT was recommended by Arthur Jones has a two or three day per week program, often with a full body day like the old silver ear guys or an upper/lower type of split for four days in a week. Even Dorian Yates who trained with Mike did a 4 day/week split. Mentzer is just taking it to an extreme here with this absurd only workout once every four days or don't work a muscle group more than once every two weeks.
My arms are picrel but I cannot wipe myself...alas, my poor anus
did 100 push ups today, felt rough. how many weeks do you think I need to recover?
Why do hit gays never post their bodies?
More like no one post body ever because no matter how perfect the body, IST will still call the dyel or fat or a twink.
Also no one wants some gay to post their pictures larping as them
Thanks, mike.
I'm stronger than ever. Working out one day a week