you dont just lift weights, right anon? you know how to dress yourself and you have friends right?

you don’t just lift weights, right anon?
you know how to dress yourself and you have friends… right?

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  1. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I wear the same clothes every day and I haven't had a friend in over 20 years. My weights and my computer are my only friends.

  2. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, because I'm gay. I don't want to post pics of my normal clothes on here though. Happy to give advice to anyone who wants though.

  3. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Man again with the same post, nobody gives a frick about your business casual wardrobe

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      post fit

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      /thread

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is there any way I can block posts with images of women in them?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Any succes?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Is there any way I can block posts with images of women in them?

            if you set Wingman Jr to the highest level it will censor most pictures of women for you

  4. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >you know how to dress yourself
    I missed whatever developmental critical period people go through where they decide what kind of clothes look good or bad, what fits them and what doesn't, what the right way to wear nicer clothes is, etc. There's literally no going back. Here's what you get when you try to find fashion "advice"
    >Top 10 Dress Shirts You Must Buy Today
    (sponsored by their manufacturers)
    >The most important thing is to wear what looks good on you
    b***h FRICKING homosexual I DONT KNOW THATS WHY IM TRYING TO LEARN
    >so here's my sponsored content but really just try things out and see what you like
    I LIKE T SHIRTS AND GYM SHORTS YOU OVERSOCIALIZED homosexual. I'm peak fricking apex mad over this I can't even see straight sometimes. If you don't have the basic substrate to make sense of these things, it's over.

    I've pretty much given up on career advancement and "soft skill" development because even if I were to get lucky and get some aspect right I'd still miss all the others. Research has shown that you can't learn social skills like eye contact, not fidgeting, etc. either, so it's literally over. I just got passed up for a promotion, then got a fricking email from someone who seemed nice saying "hey you should really email the interviewers after your interviews to thank them and show continued interest". b***h ARE YOU FRICKING SERIOUS DO YOU WANT A TIP TOO?
    >in b4 not tipping your interviewers

    I literally and unironically went into academia thinking I'd be judged for my work and contributions, which are very strong, instead I get kneecapped by this shit. Frick it, I'm going to focus on the aspects I like, ignore this fake and gay bullshit, start showing up to conferences in jeans and solid color tees and sneakers, then keep working my current job without advancement (at least it's 6figs) until they fire me for not making Zoom eye contact enough or some shit, and hope I have enough money by then to buy a trailer in the mountains and gym and hike until I die.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      How much of a moronic zoomer do you have to be to believe that the entirety of literature on men's fashion consists of AI-generated listicles
      Did your single mother not teach you to read either? Can you even read this post?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        There it is. Exactly my point.
        >how can you not know what I know automatically
        >no I won't tell you, nobody will go fall down and die aha
        TND (the N stands for Normies)

        Yes I can distinguish those things, literally one of my examples was human-made content. Are you literate?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >how can you not know what I know automatically
          What sort of reaction are you looking for here? Pity? You want us to feel sympathy for the unlucky plight of your existence?

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            No I'm just venting into nothingness.

            post an example of one of your fits, they cant be that bad

            What the frick is a fit? Like this board? I only wear Amazon Essentials slim fit light pink T shirts and Amazon Essentials shorts. My shoes are New Balance sneakers my psycho c**t ex-wife recommended (comfy i guess) or pink Crossfit shoes (I cut out the Crossfit logo) for gym. Is that what you mean? Again I don't know that's the problem.

            Here are a couple examples from when I tried
            >go to mall stores, try to find dress clothes that fit
            >only t shirts are way too baggy, balloon out in the belly
            >wear them untucked, later learn that's bad somehow?

            >find nice jeans, Lucky brand, that fit me well in the legs
            >wear them to class in grad school, hanging out with friends, etc.
            >"Hey you're wearing jeans tonight?"
            >"Yeah what's wrong with that?"
            >"Oh nothing" (obvious lie or why would they mention it)

            Is the idea that I'll post something and you'll say what's wrong with it? I already know what's wrong with it, I chose it so it's completely distanced from anything resembling the common fashion sense I never learned and now cannot learn.

            >I literally and unironically went into academia thinking I'd be judged for my work and contributions,
            lol
            lmao
            Academia is sick with politics, way worse than private sector.

            I actually doubt that, at least I don't need to do the wagie dance. Aside from when this garbage sneaks in I fricking love my job.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              how old are you and where do you live? why would anyone make a comment about wearing jeans, the most basic of pants?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                nta but I'm fairly certain he was in a social/work setting where people were expected to dress more formally than jeans
                it sounds like in general he is willfully not taking social cues from people around them then blaming everyone but himself for the consequences

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I take the social cues, I explained already multiple social cues I've been provided so I know one when I see one, but they don't contain useful information except not to do what I'm doing. What am I supposed to do with that, run around naked? Serious question.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                why don't you take a picture of you wearing one of your solid colour t shirts (preferably white or black) and your jeans that you hate so we can see how it looks?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >What am I supposed to do with that, run around naked? Serious question.
                I was going to say that it's not possible that someone in academia could be this willfully stupid but then I reflected on the state of modern academia itself and it seems entirely plausible now

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                he says he is normally decked out in amazon sports wear so I have no clue

                This was when I lived in west Los Angeles. Wait, it depends on geographical location too?
                >verification not required

                >Wait, it depends on geographical location too?
                idk probably not since jeans are so basic and ubiquitous
                are you sure they weren't gonna compliment you on moving past amazon shorts and got put off by you being defensive?

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                No, it was definitely an awkward "ok, you do you i guess" smile. I think he even said something about wearing something else. This has happened multiple times.

                why don't you take a picture of you wearing one of your solid colour t shirts (preferably white or black) and your jeans that you hate so we can see how it looks?

                It's 5:30AM and all indoor lighting is garbage here (again I live with my parents) so can't get pics. And all my shirts except the pink ones are from when I weighed 20-40kg more so they're all super loose now, hence buying the pink ones.

                >What am I supposed to do with that, run around naked? Serious question.
                I was going to say that it's not possible that someone in academia could be this willfully stupid but then I reflected on the state of modern academia itself and it seems entirely plausible now

                I think I'm explaining pretty clearly... there's a nearly limitless amount of possible clothing I could buy, and beyond the class of stuff that's obviously inappropriate for an adult male to wear (tutus and tiaras) I have no idea what to do. The feedback I get is what not to do. My guess is the request for a pic is in the interest of exactly that end as well: to judge whether what I'm currently doing makes sense. After 33 years of that shit I finally realized it has no value (so yes I guess I'm pretty dense) because with infinity choices I could spend years failing (I have) and end up narrowing down the decision space by literally nothing.

                Based autist.

                Yes someone gets it.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                I dont understand how you fail at wearing jeans and a t shirt, I wasnt aware there was a tier below that consisting of amazon brand sports clothing and crossfit shoes, and you are in that tier. shocking.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                When I leave the house for something other than gym I still do jeans and a T shirt and New Balance sneakers. Mostly because I'm self-conscious about my BWC making a bulge in my gym shorts, but I can see the gym tomboy's nipple piercings and the gym troony wears their fake pigtails so I figure it's fair game.

                Tbh in academia, you can literally wear baggy cargo shorts with some graphic tee and not look that out of place. People may judge you for it, others may regard your ability inversely to how well you dress yourself

                Is there a guide to uglymaxxing in this way? If there's a way I can dress that makes it clear I don't give a frick because I have other priorities, that might be the solution.

                >I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO KNOW. Here's an analogy: let's say you don't know any Russian, you don't even know the Cyrillic alphabet, but you learn that for social reasons you need to start writing Russian poetry. Your post is like saying "just find a Russian book and start writing some letters together and see what looks good".
                Your analogy falls flat friend, because in your scenario you have to have mastery of a skillset (reading and writing in another language).
                All YOU have to do here is actually pay attention to how people dress and see what they wear and what they don't.

                Ok now I know you're trolling
                >just look at other people bro
                I don't know if what they're wearing looks good or makes sense either. See the problem yet?

                https://theconceptwardrobe.com/colour-analysis-comprehensive-guides/complete-seasonal-guides

                Also check yourself, colours make a difference. Most people intuitively pick what looks better on them. I did at least, already before I read about this stuff. I tried different stuff and didn't like it. THEN read this and yeah, I guess I know now why I didn't like things I previously didn't pick.

                This reads like astrology. Also
                >yeah i just did it naturally with no training
                Congrats brah

                graphics t and cargo pants on a fit guy would look better than pink amazon clothing, especially if you paired it with some nice combat boots

                >combat boots
                Ah another troll. Also aren't graphic tees for 5 year olds? That's another thing I'd get shit on for.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Ok now I know you're trolling
                >>just look at other people bro
                >I don't know if what they're wearing looks good or makes sense either. See the problem yet?
                Well let's apply some common sense here, my autistic friend:
                >these people are telling you what you wear looks bad
                >these same people are wearing different clothes
                >people generally don't wear clothes they think look bad on purpose, especially if they consider themselves fashion-conscious
                >therefore, we can safely conclude that whatever these people are wearing is what they have in mind for good looking clothes

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your logic makes sense, but those interactions were a decade ago so I can't remember what they wore. I think skinny jeans and dark-colored button-up shirts, but they were also skinny Asians with glasses so if I'm understanding the astrology in

                https://theconceptwardrobe.com/colour-analysis-comprehensive-guides/complete-seasonal-guides

                Also check yourself, colours make a difference. Most people intuitively pick what looks better on them. I did at least, already before I read about this stuff. I tried different stuff and didn't like it. THEN read this and yeah, I guess I know now why I didn't like things I previously didn't pick.

                that probably wouldn't work on a pink-skinned white dude with a little muscle. The biggest gigachad I knew in grad school wore jeans, sneakers, and a plain t shirt (I miss you Evan, no homo), maybe that's why I gravitate to the same. Honestly the pink shirts are an upgrade cuz I also moved from regular fit to slim fit, and regular fit made my shirts balloon out over my belly so I'd look fat despite having a 6 pack. I also figure that if I don't know how to look like everyone else, I might as well have something unique about how I look, hence the pink. I also hope it makes me look like less of a serial killer since I feel like I have that face and I'm often angry.

                [...]
                Not trolling. In terms of language learning, there's two ways to approach it. [1] Either you immerse yourself in an environment where that language is abundant. (Living in China for example. Even if you don't know Chinese, first, you would try to convey what you want with simple gestures, then the Natives will reply back with their gestures accompanied by simple words. You incrementaly learn their language in the process.) That's how it was done historically on the Silk Road and that is why I said, "Trial and Error." I didn't say it was going to be easy or fast. You have to be surrounded by clothes to know them. And obviously, I can only be vague because I don't know you so I can't tell you what you'd like. [2] Or you learn a language by taking lectures, reading books, watching/reading movies/books made in the target language. I didn't suggest this method because it seemed like you don't want to follow what the designers say is trendy or what the advertisements tell you to buy. So [1] is the way.

                I spent 10 years at UCLA immersed in it, but I didn't even notice clothes. I'm the type of homie who watched Gossip Girl with the ex and thought it was just a show about people being absolute shitheads to each other but still spending time together for some reason. Now I have no social life (5 year abusive marriage) and walking around malls observing what people are wearing would definitely get me thrown out or arrested.

                I'd be more than happy to do [2] if any of it wasn't shilling and could break things down for an autist, but of course that's not the case.

                https://i.imgur.com/AwCRsw9.jpg

                Sounds like Adam Sandler-core is for (you). Just give your look a ‘core’ name and that makes it an ‘aesthetic’. That’s how modern style works really. Independent style is dead just act like you’re adopting a ‘core’, even if it is just your own style. Alternatively, find a core that suits you better

                See above, that's kinda the idea with the pink.

                mmmkay, one piece of practical advice before I go to my real job. I know that being "neurodivergent" (i.e., moronic) carries a lot of diversity capital with your colleagues; however, like most products of academia, it has zero practical value. So the goal here is to get you to at least look like a normal person, not for you to get pity points from IST.
                Here's what you do: next time you are on campus, at a function, etc. make a mental list of every guy you see and what they are wearing. When you get home write it out or put it in a word processor. It doesn't have to look pretty but it needs to be detailed.
                >Insufferable homosexual #1
                >at a work function
                >tall, slim build, dark hair, tan skin
                >blue striped shirt, gray heathered sports coat, light tan khaki pants, brown loafers
                >Dweeb with Head Up His Own Ass #2
                >in the cafeteria
                >medium height, portly, light hair, pale skin
                >pink T-shirt, Amazon blue jeans, tennis shoes
                And so on and so forth.
                Once you get a decent set of data, you are going to use your Rain Man powers to look for patterns. You can make a spreadsheet or pivot table or whatever. I don't care. You are looking for people with certain skin colors who wear certain clothing colors, people who match one item with another, people with similar builds who wear similar clothes, etc. This, when matched with your own physical attributes, will give you an idea of what works for you.
                One last hail mary. Typically colleges have the buildings called "libraries" that store information in bound volumes that can be shared between people and across time. If you look hard and ask the purple-haired lesbian up front they will likely have some on men's fashion. You will also find that it has practical rules and tells you why you would do what you do, so you can actually learn why people dress the way they do instead of assuming that they all popped out of the womb endowed with this knowledge.

                Will try the cataloguing thing at my next conference, thank you for the useful advice. I don't know what "heathered" is (who is Heather?) but I can work from physical descriptions. I'll think about the books thing; as an author myself I know how stuck up their own ass authors can be so my guess is it's mostly "just wear what looks good" or astrology but I'll keep my eyes out. Also agree with

                Kek, some good one liners in this post anon.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I don't know what "heathered" is (who is Heather?) but I can work from physical descriptions.
                He was literally describing the OP image lmao. 'Heathered' is that sort of broken up, grainy look to a color rather than being just a plain solid.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Clever, I didn't even realize he was talking about OP. Thanks fren

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >hat probably wouldn't work on a pink-skinned white dude with a little muscle. The biggest gigachad I knew in grad school wore jeans, sneakers, and a plain t shirt (I miss you Evan, no homo), maybe that's why I gravitate to the same. Honestly the pink shirts are an upgrade cuz I also moved from regular fit to slim fit, and regular fit made my shirts balloon out over my belly so I'd look fat despite having a 6 pack. I also figure that if I don't know how to look like everyone else, I might as well have something unique about how I look, hence the pink. I also hope it makes me look like less of a serial killer since I feel like I have that face and I'm often angry.

                My link was just to raise awareness that colours can match you or not.

                For me white looks bad, or anything light. Dark and warm (dark brown, dark blue etc) looks best on me. Since you are pink-skinned white, pink probably suits you.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sounds like Adam Sandler-core is for (you). Just give your look a ‘core’ name and that makes it an ‘aesthetic’. That’s how modern style works really. Independent style is dead just act like you’re adopting a ‘core’, even if it is just your own style. Alternatively, find a core that suits you better

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >This reads like astrology. Also
                >yeah i just did it naturally with no training

                All this shittalking from some homosexual only wearing jeans and a shirt. This shit flows in the US where everybody clothes himself like a moron. Not in EU.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Is there a guide to uglymaxxing in this way?
                have you tried wearing amazon sport clothes and pink t-shirts? lmao

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cool, then I'm already on the path. Thanks broseidon.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                mmmkay, one piece of practical advice before I go to my real job. I know that being "neurodivergent" (i.e., moronic) carries a lot of diversity capital with your colleagues; however, like most products of academia, it has zero practical value. So the goal here is to get you to at least look like a normal person, not for you to get pity points from IST.
                Here's what you do: next time you are on campus, at a function, etc. make a mental list of every guy you see and what they are wearing. When you get home write it out or put it in a word processor. It doesn't have to look pretty but it needs to be detailed.
                >Insufferable homosexual #1
                >at a work function
                >tall, slim build, dark hair, tan skin
                >blue striped shirt, gray heathered sports coat, light tan khaki pants, brown loafers
                >Dweeb with Head Up His Own Ass #2
                >in the cafeteria
                >medium height, portly, light hair, pale skin
                >pink T-shirt, Amazon blue jeans, tennis shoes
                And so on and so forth.
                Once you get a decent set of data, you are going to use your Rain Man powers to look for patterns. You can make a spreadsheet or pivot table or whatever. I don't care. You are looking for people with certain skin colors who wear certain clothing colors, people who match one item with another, people with similar builds who wear similar clothes, etc. This, when matched with your own physical attributes, will give you an idea of what works for you.
                One last hail mary. Typically colleges have the buildings called "libraries" that store information in bound volumes that can be shared between people and across time. If you look hard and ask the purple-haired lesbian up front they will likely have some on men's fashion. You will also find that it has practical rules and tells you why you would do what you do, so you can actually learn why people dress the way they do instead of assuming that they all popped out of the womb endowed with this knowledge.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Kek, some good one liners in this post anon.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                This was when I lived in west Los Angeles. Wait, it depends on geographical location too?
                >verification not required

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Tbh in academia, you can literally wear baggy cargo shorts with some graphic tee and not look that out of place. People may judge you for it, others may regard your ability inversely to how well you dress yourself

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                graphics t and cargo pants on a fit guy would look better than pink amazon clothing, especially if you paired it with some nice combat boots

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                >nice combat boots
                Lmao they’d wear them with autism sneakers at best, flip flops or some other practical shoes maybe. I tried to dress well during grad school but some days you rock up in whatever’s clean

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      post an example of one of your fits, they cant be that bad

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I literally and unironically went into academia thinking I'd be judged for my work and contributions,
      lol
      lmao
      Academia is sick with politics, way worse than private sector.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Based autist.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Trial and error, Anon. You don't need to follow a list or a specific trend in fashion necessarily. If there's a mall or a department store near you, go there every now and then to try on different clothes. You don't need to buy every clothes that you try on, and if you feel pressured, start with fast fashion brands like H&M, Zara, etc.

      >went into academia thinking I'd be judged for my work and contributions
      Oof... That was me almost a decade ago. I learned it was 30% work 70% politics the hard way. Am doing okay now but man having my ideals shattered and snapping back to reality sucked. You're gonna be okay as long as you keep doing what you're doing. Trying new things is great but don't try to lose what you're good at in the process. WAGMI

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm going to assume you're genuinely trying to help and not trolling, but do you notice how your fashion advice is exactly what I explained is not helpful?
        >just try stuff on and see what looks good
        I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO KNOW. Here's an analogy: let's say you don't know any Russian, you don't even know the Cyrillic alphabet, but you learn that for social reasons you need to start writing Russian poetry. Your post is like saying "just find a Russian book and start writing some letters together and see what looks good".

        I knew there'd be some politics in academia, but it's most liberal don't-talk-about-race-and-IQ shit which is pretty easy to work with for me. It's funny that I can navigate the political part perfectly despite being closer to natsoc than anything (yes many of your professors are secretly based, I know fellow travelers so I'm definitely not the only one), but I don't get this. That's why I think it's developmental.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO KNOW. Here's an analogy: let's say you don't know any Russian, you don't even know the Cyrillic alphabet, but you learn that for social reasons you need to start writing Russian poetry. Your post is like saying "just find a Russian book and start writing some letters together and see what looks good".
          Your analogy falls flat friend, because in your scenario you have to have mastery of a skillset (reading and writing in another language).
          All YOU have to do here is actually pay attention to how people dress and see what they wear and what they don't.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          https://theconceptwardrobe.com/colour-analysis-comprehensive-guides/complete-seasonal-guides

          Also check yourself, colours make a difference. Most people intuitively pick what looks better on them. I did at least, already before I read about this stuff. I tried different stuff and didn't like it. THEN read this and yeah, I guess I know now why I didn't like things I previously didn't pick.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm going to assume you're genuinely trying to help and not trolling, but do you notice how your fashion advice is exactly what I explained is not helpful?
        >just try stuff on and see what looks good
        I DON'T KNOW. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO KNOW. Here's an analogy: let's say you don't know any Russian, you don't even know the Cyrillic alphabet, but you learn that for social reasons you need to start writing Russian poetry. Your post is like saying "just find a Russian book and start writing some letters together and see what looks good".

        I knew there'd be some politics in academia, but it's most liberal don't-talk-about-race-and-IQ shit which is pretty easy to work with for me. It's funny that I can navigate the political part perfectly despite being closer to natsoc than anything (yes many of your professors are secretly based, I know fellow travelers so I'm definitely not the only one), but I don't get this. That's why I think it's developmental.

        Not trolling. In terms of language learning, there's two ways to approach it. [1] Either you immerse yourself in an environment where that language is abundant. (Living in China for example. Even if you don't know Chinese, first, you would try to convey what you want with simple gestures, then the Natives will reply back with their gestures accompanied by simple words. You incrementaly learn their language in the process.) That's how it was done historically on the Silk Road and that is why I said, "Trial and Error." I didn't say it was going to be easy or fast. You have to be surrounded by clothes to know them. And obviously, I can only be vague because I don't know you so I can't tell you what you'd like. [2] Or you learn a language by taking lectures, reading books, watching/reading movies/books made in the target language. I didn't suggest this method because it seemed like you don't want to follow what the designers say is trendy or what the advertisements tell you to buy. So [1] is the way.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Your logic makes sense, but those interactions were a decade ago so I can't remember what they wore. I think skinny jeans and dark-colored button-up shirts, but they were also skinny Asians with glasses so if I'm understanding the astrology in
          [...]
          that probably wouldn't work on a pink-skinned white dude with a little muscle. The biggest gigachad I knew in grad school wore jeans, sneakers, and a plain t shirt (I miss you Evan, no homo), maybe that's why I gravitate to the same. Honestly the pink shirts are an upgrade cuz I also moved from regular fit to slim fit, and regular fit made my shirts balloon out over my belly so I'd look fat despite having a 6 pack. I also figure that if I don't know how to look like everyone else, I might as well have something unique about how I look, hence the pink. I also hope it makes me look like less of a serial killer since I feel like I have that face and I'm often angry.

          [...]
          I spent 10 years at UCLA immersed in it, but I didn't even notice clothes. I'm the type of homie who watched Gossip Girl with the ex and thought it was just a show about people being absolute shitheads to each other but still spending time together for some reason. Now I have no social life (5 year abusive marriage) and walking around malls observing what people are wearing would definitely get me thrown out or arrested.

          I'd be more than happy to do [2] if any of it wasn't shilling and could break things down for an autist, but of course that's not the case.

          [...]
          See above, that's kinda the idea with the pink.

          [...]
          Will try the cataloguing thing at my next conference, thank you for the useful advice. I don't know what "heathered" is (who is Heather?) but I can work from physical descriptions. I'll think about the books thing; as an author myself I know how stuck up their own ass authors can be so my guess is it's mostly "just wear what looks good" or astrology but I'll keep my eyes out. Also agree with
          [...]

          Then [2] is the way for you, Anon.
          >happy to do [2] if any of it wasn't shilling
          Well, you have to admit most people on this Icelandic worm-hunting forum are here for shits and giggles (at least I am) but sometimes give out advice and get information while doing so. Why would it be different for clothes and fashion? Yes, there are shills out there but you'd learn what's shit-posting and what's useful in [2]'s process.

          mmmkay, one piece of practical advice before I go to my real job. I know that being "neurodivergent" (i.e., moronic) carries a lot of diversity capital with your colleagues; however, like most products of academia, it has zero practical value. So the goal here is to get you to at least look like a normal person, not for you to get pity points from IST.
          Here's what you do: next time you are on campus, at a function, etc. make a mental list of every guy you see and what they are wearing. When you get home write it out or put it in a word processor. It doesn't have to look pretty but it needs to be detailed.
          >Insufferable homosexual #1
          >at a work function
          >tall, slim build, dark hair, tan skin
          >blue striped shirt, gray heathered sports coat, light tan khaki pants, brown loafers
          >Dweeb with Head Up His Own Ass #2
          >in the cafeteria
          >medium height, portly, light hair, pale skin
          >pink T-shirt, Amazon blue jeans, tennis shoes
          And so on and so forth.
          Once you get a decent set of data, you are going to use your Rain Man powers to look for patterns. You can make a spreadsheet or pivot table or whatever. I don't care. You are looking for people with certain skin colors who wear certain clothing colors, people who match one item with another, people with similar builds who wear similar clothes, etc. This, when matched with your own physical attributes, will give you an idea of what works for you.
          One last hail mary. Typically colleges have the buildings called "libraries" that store information in bound volumes that can be shared between people and across time. If you look hard and ask the purple-haired lesbian up front they will likely have some on men's fashion. You will also find that it has practical rules and tells you why you would do what you do, so you can actually learn why people dress the way they do instead of assuming that they all popped out of the womb endowed with this knowledge.

          Pottery.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Again I'd love to do [2] but fashion seems particularly bad about this.
            >look up statistical criteria for a new modeling approach
            >worked examples showing reasoning, compare and contrast articles, review papers, online Web1.0 guides that are even better

            >hip tendonitis
            >PT websites, YouTube mobility channels (yes there are shills but easy to filter out), plus I can try things myself and see what works

            >fashion
            >color wheel astrology, shilling, and just-dress-well

            Other random question: how important is fit compared to things like texture, style, "heather", etc.? I think I can get a handle on fit at least.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              >how important is fit compared to...
              If you're IST and your clothes fit right, I think that alone is 70% of the job done.
              >Fit
              Have a tailor (or a friend, family member, yourself with scotch tape) take your measurements with a well... measuring tape. Google which places to measure and compare your measurements to the clothes' measurement.
              >Color
              >color wheel astrology
              I'm ashamed to say I believe the color wheel, Anon. The sky is blue and the grass is green and some colors go well with each other. I'm not asking you to go to a "color astrologist" but if you have a color-calibrated monitor or device (most smartphones these days would do) open up a color wheel and compare your skin tone to the examples.
              >Texture
              "Heather" and the likes is a sort of texture weave... An easy way for texture is to look up the textile composition and match them as close as possible. Cotton tops go well with cotton bottoms. Polyester tops go well with polyester bottoms. Match the textile composition of your top and bottom, and I think you're good to go. When I said tops, I meant shirts and t-shirts. Outers (leather jackets for example) can be of a different texture, textile. And don't overdo or mix distinct textile weaves.
              >Style
              Another way of saying function really. Dress for the occasion.

              I think Fit > Style >= Color > Texture. Follow his advice

              mmmkay, one piece of practical advice before I go to my real job. I know that being "neurodivergent" (i.e., moronic) carries a lot of diversity capital with your colleagues; however, like most products of academia, it has zero practical value. So the goal here is to get you to at least look like a normal person, not for you to get pity points from IST.
              Here's what you do: next time you are on campus, at a function, etc. make a mental list of every guy you see and what they are wearing. When you get home write it out or put it in a word processor. It doesn't have to look pretty but it needs to be detailed.
              >Insufferable homosexual #1
              >at a work function
              >tall, slim build, dark hair, tan skin
              >blue striped shirt, gray heathered sports coat, light tan khaki pants, brown loafers
              >Dweeb with Head Up His Own Ass #2
              >in the cafeteria
              >medium height, portly, light hair, pale skin
              >pink T-shirt, Amazon blue jeans, tennis shoes
              And so on and so forth.
              Once you get a decent set of data, you are going to use your Rain Man powers to look for patterns. You can make a spreadsheet or pivot table or whatever. I don't care. You are looking for people with certain skin colors who wear certain clothing colors, people who match one item with another, people with similar builds who wear similar clothes, etc. This, when matched with your own physical attributes, will give you an idea of what works for you.
              One last hail mary. Typically colleges have the buildings called "libraries" that store information in bound volumes that can be shared between people and across time. If you look hard and ask the purple-haired lesbian up front they will likely have some on men's fashion. You will also find that it has practical rules and tells you why you would do what you do, so you can actually learn why people dress the way they do instead of assuming that they all popped out of the womb endowed with this knowledge.

              for real-life applications and learn to sort and categorize clothes by looking up different sorts of Fits, Color Matching, Texture (Textile, Weave), Style (Functions, Occasion). I don't do [2] so this is as much as I know, Anon.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks this is super helpful, I'm saving this thread when I'm done. Here's a vaporwave for your trouble.

              • 9 months ago
                Anonymous

                Thanks for the relaxing sax, Anon. WAGMI

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Literal autism or aspergers or something

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >There's literally no going back
      Literally just go to a Men's Warehouse, find the oldest worker (young people are dumb), and ask for help. He'll get your measurements and find you a shirt and pants and they'll even alter them if it needs if be altered.

      >hey you should really email the interviewers after your interviews to thank them and show continued interest
      Yeah the white collar world is moronic. The interview is like 80% about seeing if you can repeat the right answers and do the right steps. They want to know you're desperate enough to learn and follow the script even though it's obviously moronic. They want "continued interest" because they want to see you on your knees begging for the job. Someone who is desperate is less likely to walk away when they're treated like shit.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        This strategy seems pretty low-risk. Thank you. This can at least maybe help with my next conference. I'm guessing I shouldn't ask what looks good, but just about the objective stuff like measurements and sizing?

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          First thing they're gonna do is take a couple of measurements and have you try on a few things to check fit, then you can discuss what looks good or what sort of event or situation you're buying clothes for.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            Thanks chief.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Also, if you're just starting out with a professional wardrobe, it's hard top go wrong with a classic navy blazer or sportscoat, pairs well with gray or black slacks but also khakis and even jeans. Very versatile. Also get some nice ties while you're there, and for frick's sake, get proper dress shirts, not the stupid button down collar kind. The collar should come to nice points, and you need to match the width of the opening with the width of your tie/knot. If it's got a wide spread it'll look dumb with a skinny tie and four in hand knot. In that situation you'd want a fat tie and a full windsor knot. And the reverse as well, narrow spread, narrow knot/tie.

          • 9 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've been told that full Windsor is only for the bosses; I'm only assistant professor, would it be a mistake to do this? I know how to tie one and prefer them to the homosexual halfsies.

            Also
            >get proper dress shirts, not the stupid button down collar kind. The collar should come to nice points
            This is the kind of unhelpful "just do it right" stuff I'm talking about.

            Otherwise good tips!

            I'll also say, if you're in the US, check Dillard's for nice shirts, Men's Warehouse mostly has thin poly-blend stretch shit. Only at Dillard's was I able to find high quality, thick, opaque, cotton shirts.

            And the demoralization is back. I had picked out a store to go to and everything, now I learn they're shit. Do you think I can do the same strategy as

            >There's literally no going back
            Literally just go to a Men's Warehouse, find the oldest worker (young people are dumb), and ask for help. He'll get your measurements and find you a shirt and pants and they'll even alter them if it needs if be altered.

            >hey you should really email the interviewers after your interviews to thank them and show continued interest
            Yeah the white collar world is moronic. The interview is like 80% about seeing if you can repeat the right answers and do the right steps. They want to know you're desperate enough to learn and follow the script even though it's obviously moronic. They want "continued interest" because they want to see you on your knees begging for the job. Someone who is desperate is less likely to walk away when they're treated like shit.

            First thing they're gonna do is take a couple of measurements and have you try on a few things to check fit, then you can discuss what looks good or what sort of event or situation you're buying clothes for.

            with Dillard's?

            Never mind, the nearest Dillard's is 2 hours away. Guess I'm stuck with shit.

            • 9 months ago
              Anonymous

              Don't worry too much about Dillard's, that was just more of a note that that's where I've had the best luck with quality shirts. I wasn't suggesting to go there in lieu of Men's Warehouse, and really Men's Warehouse shirts are adequate I just don't find them as nice as I would prefer but also I'm very hairy and my chest hair often shows through thinner shirts and I don't care for undershirts.

              >I've been told that full Windsor is only for the bosses; I'm only assistant professor, would it be a mistake to do this? I know how to tie one and prefer them to the homosexual halfsies.
              Well sort it's definitely a more luxurious knot, but there's no actual rule like that. Honestly I mostly do the half windsor but that's more because I'm tall and it's hard enough to find a tie that's long enough without taking even more into the knot. The more important thing is just to fit your collar spread to your tie width and knot. Also don't get super wide ties, they look very outdated and goofy, but neither get a really skinny tie, they look gay and hipstery.

              >This is the kind of unhelpful "just do it right" stuff I'm talking about.
              Well, just don't wear a button down collar with a tie, or with a jacket for that matter. Button down collars are more casual and imo ugly and nerdy looking. That's the sort of thing you'd wear with khakis (not khaki slacks, the other kind) on a casual Friday or something, but in that casual environment you might as well just go with a golf shirt.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I missed whatever developmental critical period people go through where they decide what kind of clothes look good or bad, what fits them and what doesn't, what the right way to wear nicer clothes is, etc. There's literally no going back. Here's what you get when you try to find fashion "advice"
      Hire a personal stylist, they can help you find what looks good on you.
      Unless you're poor.

    • 9 months ago
      greekgruel

      holy frick can this summerhomosexual kill himself, he's shitting up every fricking thread here.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >namegayging
        Stay mad lol, been here for 10+ years and not going anywhere.

        Ashley Weston is very helpful. She definitely hardfocuses on preppy/city-slicker fashion (not much advice for people who live in the sticks), but she does go to the trouble of actually explaining what will look good on different body types.

        https://www.youtube.com/@MensFashioner

        >woman
        I'll give it a try, but might need to abstain because I'm killing my coomer element and looking at women is just frustrating.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          She doesn't show much of herself. As long as you're not into men wearing kinda fruity outfits you'll be fine.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ashley Weston is very helpful. She definitely hardfocuses on preppy/city-slicker fashion (not much advice for people who live in the sticks), but she does go to the trouble of actually explaining what will look good on different body types.

      https://www.youtube.com/@MensFashioner

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >taking men's fashion advice from a woman
        shiggy diggy

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just get a suit that has your measurements. Don't overthink it. Ignore moronic modern advice

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        actually

        >There's literally no going back
        Literally just go to a Men's Warehouse, find the oldest worker (young people are dumb), and ask for help. He'll get your measurements and find you a shirt and pants and they'll even alter them if it needs if be altered.

        >hey you should really email the interviewers after your interviews to thank them and show continued interest
        Yeah the white collar world is moronic. The interview is like 80% about seeing if you can repeat the right answers and do the right steps. They want to know you're desperate enough to learn and follow the script even though it's obviously moronic. They want "continued interest" because they want to see you on your knees begging for the job. Someone who is desperate is less likely to walk away when they're treated like shit.

        This guy says the same thing but with actual instructions

  5. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you really feel like getting mogged in fashion, I can show you what real taste looks like.
    I would never wear a basic b***h fit like yours

  6. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Is this another episode of "American discovers shirts and slacks" ?
    protip: a shirt with any sort of pattern doesn't go with jackets like that.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >protip: a shirt with any sort of pattern doesn't go with jackets like that.
      It looks perfectly fine from over here in the first world.

  7. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    homosexual recently got fit(ter) and now starts spamming this board

  8. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >you know how to dress yourself

    Yeah I do, but it looks like you don't. That shirt collar looks ridiculous and messy.

  9. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    sad, noone can tell you lift in clothes

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine being this obsessed with how you look to complete strangers.
      Hiding your powerlevel is based.

  10. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    this fricking site is full of normies
    >i don't know how to dress myself good
    HURR HOW DARE YOU DURR FRICKING AUTISM

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      To their credit, they probably are fricked up in other aspects, but you really need the whole skillset or it's over tho. So maybe they can dress themselves, maybe they can train and get a nice body, maybe they can get laid or a stable rewarding relationship, maybe they can have a good career, but most likely some aspect of that went wrong for them to end up here. Then they flex with what they have, because in a single thread that's all you're known for. Or it's just shitposting, which I'm leaning towards.

  11. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    The secret to dressing good is having broad shoulders, a tight waist, and being tall. Almost anything looks good on me

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The secret to dressing good is having broad shoulders, a tight waist
      This sucks when it comes to dressing well, I need to buy extra slim fit or else my waist fits 4 times in a shirt when my shoulders barely fit in. In other words there are barely any clothes being sold for people who are in shape like me.

  12. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'll also say, if you're in the US, check Dillard's for nice shirts, Men's Warehouse mostly has thin poly-blend stretch shit. Only at Dillard's was I able to find high quality, thick, opaque, cotton shirts.

  13. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't wear suits because its not 1945 and my work doesn't require it

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's not a suit

  14. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nope 🙂

  15. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    i rotate between two pairs of jeans which are both hand-me-downs from my dad, i wear the exact same white t shirt everyday and tell people i just have several and i rotate them frequently and i have worn the exact same jacket for 12 years

  16. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nice breasts, gaylord.

  17. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >be skinnyfat, decently tall (6'4")
    >libhomosexual, openly enjoy Steven Universe and anime
    >have daily conversations with best friends
    >have friends at uni and work

    >start lifting more seriously
    >start training MMA more seriously
    >become more conservative, get more into guns, start learning to shoot proper
    >start paying attention to style, start buying clothes that look more adult (button downs, polos, slacks, Oxfords and loafers, etc.)
    >clothes look way better on me because nice chest, nice traps/delts, smaller belly, etc.
    >suddenly only talking to ~4 people regularly, including best buddy
    >don't see people anywhere near as much
    >people make shitty comments about my clothes ("nice fit, is it passover?" said sarcastically, even though I looked good in that outfit)
    I don't even see how anyone could say I'm tryharding. I never talk about the lifting, MMA, or guns unless someone else mentions those. I don't to anything to bring specific attention to my clothes, and the most I say if anyone asks is "Ah, I just wanted to dress my age a bit." What was the point of it all, IST?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      You’re making people feel like man babies (and that’s a good thing)

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >start buying clothes that look more adult (button downs, polos, slacks, Oxfords and loafers, etc.)
      People only wear that if they're preppy rich boys or at work. That's why they're commenting on it.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        but when I got the passover comment I was literally coming home from work

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Well, have you thought about not being israeli?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Your old "friends" are just acting like crabs in a bucket. People just hate it when people around them change, especially for the better.

  18. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. I mean, I do, but I can't get anything that fits.
    >Buy a dress shirt in Small
    >feel like I'm wearing a hospital gown that's wide enough for two anons to fit inside of

    t. 5'7" 105 lbs.
    Past a certain age I just started wearing whatever my mom gets me for Christmas. She's my size and thus able to pick out clothes that fits. Previously I'd buy fancy T-shirts on the Internet that I desperately wanted and insist on wearing them out even though I looked like a kid who'd fallen in a pool and had to borrow my older relatives clothes.

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >feel like I'm wearing a hospital gown that's wide enough for two anons to fit inside of
      Thank size inflation, I have a BMI of 32 and (would) have to buy slim fit to get something that's not enormously baggy (sadly I'm tall enough to need the big and tall section and they only tend to have 'classic cut' in tall sizes, I could probably take 2 yards of excess fabric out of that shit before it fits right). Now there's even ultra slim fits, maybe try that.

  19. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    i dont get ur post.. Guy on the left has no idea how to dress..

  20. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    This fit is unironically better than 100% of other IST posters.
    I don’t know if they all live in flyover country or they’re all just lower class, or?

  21. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    literally nothing in that picture is tailored, look like a used car salesman. Is this a joke? Did you actually go spend $70 at macy's on some business casual and think it was looking crisp? XD

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      still waiting for you to post fit…

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >everyone who makes fun of me is the same person
        so this wasn't a joke after all...wow

  22. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >posting the most 2000's dad fit i've ever seen

    might just be because im gen z and still in college, but varsity and bomber jackets, decent shirts, chinos or jeans and converses and basically generic streetwear shit has gotten me enough compliments

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >varsity and bomber jackets
      Those are back in style now?

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        For the most part. A lot of the alt male fashion or streetwear fashion that actually looks good on most people is basically just 90's shit, at least for my generation.

  23. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dress like a slob and am lonely. Though a girl recently told me I have a nice body and that I remind her of Snufkin. She also told me that we can't be a couple.

  24. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >you know how to dress yourself
    Why yes, yes I do. I've been doing it for 25 years now. I'm actually pretty good at it, too. Any other questions, you gigantic homosexual?

  25. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    >put a lot of work in the gym and in the wardrobe to make myself look good
    >still khv
    >go to walmart and see fat dude wearing basketball shorts, crocs, and a graphic tee with a girlfriend and/or kid

    it's moments like these where I realize appearance doesn't mean jackshit

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      They just have something we don't. Nobody can characterize it, it just happens. Let the existential rage that these kind of encounters produce happen, over time your brain will tire of being impotently angry over things you can't control and you'll be depressed but able to focus on tangible goals (e.g., house in the mountains with home gym and StarLink internet) rather than unreachable goals (social normalcy, sexual relationships, reproduction). It's fricking hard and I can't tell you it gets better but eventually you become a callous hardened shell who at least has some things that matter to them.

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They just have something we don't
        Neurotypicality, that's it

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Probably. That's why I'm trying to focus on my competencies and fly under the radar everywhere else; can't change how I'm put together mentally (physically is hard enough), but I can capitalize on what I have and maybe end up somewhere nice.

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Probably. That's why I'm trying to focus on my competencies and fly under the radar everywhere else; can't change how I'm put together mentally (physically is hard enough), but I can capitalize on what I have and maybe end up somewhere nice.

          Oh, and music. Music is nice.

  26. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why are these types of posts always so triggering for you, IST?
    Do you think, maybe, you’ve got some unresolved issues around the more social side of things?

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      >enter thread of morons talking about their moronation
      >"are you guys moronic or something"
      0 IQ take

  27. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am an italian intellectual psychogeographist who does amateur archeology research in the field and work out, I work in a public sector position as an environmental advisor and i study russian, have a second job as an editor for a literary monthly publication, play chess all during work time. I thrive to become the complete reinassance man

    • 9 months ago
      Anonymous

      Uhh… what?
      Meds, Mr. Schizo

      • 9 months ago
        Anonymous

        Open your horizons, aim for the stars, read the greek and roman phisophers

        • 9 months ago
          Anonymous

          Philosophers*

  28. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have friends despite my appearance because I maintain a decent personality. Until I figure out my skin and clothes, I'll still look a bit off. Hair's on point though, silky and flowing.

  29. 9 months ago
    Anonymous

    sweatpants + plain t shirt or gym shorts + plain t shirt is the most goated fit and nothing can change my mind. it's comfy and looks good if you're not a lardass, i don't care about your 'business casual', suck my dick

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