>you have to squat and deadlift or you'll make no gains

>you have to squat and deadlift or you'll make no gains

How long did it take you to realise that this was nonsense?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I just sat down to shit and my legs looked better than ever, im so fucking happy i listened to IST

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      By this logic Indians would all have jacked legs

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Surely anon meant he was observing his fit-advice legs while taking a shit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine the amount of time you'd save evacuating bowels in the most natural position for doing so.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Offset by the amount of time you spend cleaning your ass with your hand and a communal bucket of water and then attempting to dry your hand and ass in a sanitary manner.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Checked, however bidet is the way. Can believe the amount of people walking around with shit and dingleberries.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I love flicking those crusty small pebbles after they've been ripening for a while. Don't dig any deeper with nails though, you get those smudged under there.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              It's insane to me that bidets aren't widely accepted in all cultures across the world.
              How does anyone think it's acceptable to wipe their poop with a fucking piece of paper and call it clean.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They squat atg, sure, but they only weigh like 50 pounds. Need more resistance.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          What are those scribbles at the very bottom supposed to be? The floor breaking?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Need

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's not a street

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Okay

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When I started going to the gym, not doing squats or deadlifts but making great gains anyway. I do squats now a days, but I really don't see the point in doing deadlifts for what I want out of my lifting.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >squats
    >bench press
    >rows
    >overhead press
    >deadlift
    >pull-ups

    Are the basic compound lifts, these engage the most muscles at the same time, and are one of the best overall strength building exercises.

    No wonder you fagotts are so scared of them

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't want to engage the most muscles at the same time

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >squats
      based, no argument
      >bench press
      Pretty non-functional strength wise, unless you like to lift very heavy things above your head and then put them back down, but its good for aesthetics and helps support arm strength, which is what actually matters.
      >rows
      Also based
      >OHP
      Its not part of my routine, but it works.
      >deadlift
      lolno. 100% egolift. Everything it does for legs, squatting does better, and the only other thing it does is strengthening the lower back, which is pointless.
      >pull ups
      Based again.
      Overal 6/10, decent routine if you wanna go into Powerlifting. Steer clear if you don't want to model for Bara porn.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Pretty non-functional strength wise,
        Unless you're pushing something/someone
        >lolno. 100% egolift.
        Disagree, if you're autistic like me you'll love going to the forest and >OHPing big rocks over your head. Deadlift helps you pick them up to wait height and gives you the back strength to hurl them into the overhead press position
        If you're a normie, deads will help you with any picking of heavy objects

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Alright, I take that back, if you want to minmax into doing the most agonizing and grueling physical labor possible, Deadlifts are your go-to.
          I'm focusing a fighter's body so my arms are my primary workout area. Chest is a secondary concern but it gets at least a couple exercises every workout.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            getting big arms is detrimental to a fighter. The weight will genuinely be detrimental to your speed. You should be doing a fucking shitload of bag work and sparring before considering adding mass

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This is what amateur boxes in those influencer events don't get. They want to swole up to have nice pics on their insta and then get exhausted mid round 1

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              This is what amateur boxes in those influencer events don't get. They want to swole up to have nice pics on their insta and then get exhausted mid round 1

              I do reductions, so my arms won't be too heavy for me.

              >deadlift
              >egolift
              Total horseshit. DL is THE glute chain lift. You do not have strength if you have a weak glute chain. If all you want is to pump your biceps in the mirror, then listen to this moron.

              >BRO HOW THE FUCK WILL YOU HAVE A TIGHT, BUBBLE BUTT IF YOU DON'T DO GLUTES YOU FUCKING DYEL
              I'm not gay. Glutes don't fucking matter.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >he doesnt know

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Deadlifts and bench are some of the most important lifts
            >t.wrestler

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Squats are more important than bench

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Bench Press and OHP are complementary to each other, BP engages chest primary and shoulder secondary, OHP does the opposite.

        Rows and Deadlift are the same, sort-off.

        That's why you should do them in different days, to engage a certain muscle group 2 times a week, primary and secondary.

        This is the Stronglifts 5x5 form the sticky where you add chin-ups and pull-ups.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        strengthening your lower back is probably one of best things you can do yourself

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >deadlift
        >egolift
        Total horseshit. DL is THE glute chain lift. You do not have strength if you have a weak glute chain. If all you want is to pump your biceps in the mirror, then listen to this moron.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >muh stren- ACK!

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >If all you want is to pump your biceps in the mirror, then listen to this moron.
          Thanks for the advice chief, I'll listen to the other Anon.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >strengthening the lower back
        >pointless
        Retard dyel detected

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >strengthening the lower back, which is pointless.
        Kys

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This + dips are literally all I do. Maybe not the most optimal, but pretty good gains/time spent at the gym ratio, as I can afford to go only 3x a week

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm in the same boat. Recently I stopped doing pull ups and rows to cram in more arm work (curls, triceps exercises, rear delts), but I'm not very happy with it so far. I want full body + nice arms gains, but I just don't have the fucking time

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >rows
      No thanks

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do you even need more than this + some arm work? Most people in the gym don't do a single one and look like shit as a result

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Congrats, you know the secret to gains. The only people who are big in my gym are the ones who do compounds and they’re mostly the powerlifters and no they aren’t fat they all compete in weight classes and actually look like they lift, especially their backs

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >especially their backs

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Most people who train like bodybuilders don't even look like they lift. There is a reason planet fitness is all machines.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Most the powerlifters I come across aren't big at all unless they're roiders competing in some lolfed

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do you even need more than this + some arm work? Most people in the gym don't do a single one and look like shit as a result

      Most people who train like bodybuilders don't even look like they lift. There is a reason planet fitness is all machines.

      I'd like to see you do a bunch of compounds with serious effort and weight in one session. Oh wait, you're beginners who can't lift heavy enough to be systemically fatigued and have to rest 5+ minutes between sets or spend inordinate amounts of time to warm up.

      Those big powerlifters have been doing it for years and years and years. You wanna be a powerlifter? Fine, but don't pretend it's the best path to overall gains.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I'd like to see you do a bunch of compounds with serious effort and weight in one session.
        No one ever said to do them all during the same session genius.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          then you're not doing enough volume per muscle group to efficiently grow, genius, you're just training to put big numbers up. Which, again, is fine if that's the goal, but the vast majority of people who get into weight training don't get in to be competitive powerlifters.

          Compounds are excellent when programmed right, but saying that's all you need is absolutely retarded, and there are machine compounds that are more effective than free-weight compounds for hypertrophy training.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            How the fuck did you get that out of what I wrote, retard?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              If you think free-weight compounds are all you need and some "arm-work", then you either

              a) aren't far enough along in your training to seriously tax your cardiovascular system with a set of compounds that challenge the muscle, which is fine you're just beginning and compounds are really good to progressively overload for a beginner

              or

              b) are programming like an idiot who thinks a few compounds are gonna efficiently build muscle

              or

              c) are programming for competitive powerlifting

              So which is it?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Engaging the most muscles at one time
      Yeah that's a strategy you can use to get out of novice. I'm more of an isometric guy.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Pull Ups

      Lifts? That's like calling a push up a lift. Nah all calisthenics basics (Push Ups, Dips, Chin Ups, Sit Ups, Jumping, Climbing) are Basic Mobility exercises with strength and endurance benefits.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Skwats and diddlies work wonders, just don't fucking x5 them

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What should I be doing if not sets of 5? I’m not aiming for size if I could get stronger without them growing I would absolutely do it. I’m chaffing at 2pl8 and I’m not even fat

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's just my opinion, but you shouldn't autistically chase 1RM unless you powerlift. You can also develop strength with a more hypertrophy-friendly rep range

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I see better hypertrophy results from squatting with sets of 5 or less

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How long did it take you to realise that this was nonsense?

    when I started to use my brain. Leg machines mog squats so hard that its not even funny. also deadlifts are shitty for back growth. so many wasted months on that useless shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Leg machines mog squats so hard that its not even funny
      You must have been squatting like an absolute fucking retard if you actually think leg presses and leg extensions are in any way superior, lmao

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >deadlifts are shitty for back growth
      They're not a fucking back exercise. The most you get is an iso hold. Retards put it in Pull workouts cause they need to make the big 3 lifts fit cookie cutter into PPL splits. Deadlifts have always been a glutes/hammstrings workout

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Deadlifts do help back growth but they can't be your only back exercise since it's lower back mostly. Rows + pullups are needed for a full back workout.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >cookie cutter general

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do a couple compound lifts to start at 3x12 and 3x8 and then do a ppc circuit of some machines and dumbbells for 5x12

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I dropped doing squats and deadlifts since I'm not powerlifting. Instead, I do hack squats, hyperextensions, and RDLs.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Post back and legs

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Stopped doing deadlifts since I work my glutes with other exercises, and it fucks up my back plus I don't like just lifting and holding shit. Still do squats from time to time

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    That'll never happen because I'm not a weak bodied, weak willed gay who lifts purely for "aesthetics" and would be content with being as weak as you.

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