>you only need 30kcal surplus, MORE THAN THAT AND YOU'RE BULKING
>wow, you didn't put on size in 3 years of maingaining? you did something wrong, it's your fault, not Coach Gregs
>MAINGAINING IS BETTER THAN BULKING, it doesn't matter that you won't grow, I don't give a shit, buy my book at CoachGreg.com
>*high pitched whining and screaming like a BPD woman on a period*
>if you don't have abs, your fat, it doesn't matter that you're 130lbs, you have to cut
>buy my cookbook with thousands of grammatical errors, all recipes contain sweeteners, because I'm a frickup and don't practice what I preach
>BULKING MEANS EATING WENDYS AND PIZZA EVERY DAY, STAP IT
>I-I DIDN'T GASLIGHT YOU, YOU GASLIGHTED YOURSELF
>I-I WASN'T WRONG, I-I W-WAS RIGHT, YOU JUST DON' UNDERSTAN
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Seriously if I work out without bulking(I do calisthenics) I could get gains? Not huge but athletic look
Why not eat at caloric surplus? You're working, you need fuel to repare.
I don't want to get fat though howevermore. After I lean out I probably will eat a lil more but not Black person tier amounts. Just like an extra cup of oatmeal or nuts or some shit
>After I lean out
You won't "lean out" unless you're cutting. Maingaining "leans you out" by switching to a slight cut as your TDEE increases. But it's an absurdly inefficient use of your time.
That's not even a surplus anymore, when you're working out your body needs more food. A car going at 100 consumes more fuel than a car going at 50. Unless you're a moron and are stuck on 2nd gear all the time or something. Point is: it's ok and needed to eat more if you're doing exercise.
You spend the protein and energy you need to repair musle, which increases TDEE. So technically the ideal bulk would have you hit precisely zero calories of surplus with respect to this - just enough to cover your energy consumption + the material needed for growth. If you could do this you would never need to cut as you wouldn't gain fat.
In practice, it's simply impossible to pull off. So most people go for a surplus of ~20% or so. Everything you don't spend goes into fat, though, so you want to be at the lowest calorie intake you can hit and still maintain a stable surplus.
>be me
>maingaining, with occasional minicuts and mini bulks
>very sore for many days in the delt department
>feeling very shitty overall
>poor sleep
>poor relaxation
>high anxiety due to life turning on you
>decide to take a day off completely, from work and the gym
>go for a massage and a sauna
>eat a shitton, specially protein based foods
>next day, sleep well
>delts are fully healed
>life wont get better but it is what it is
Sleep, train, relax and eat well, simple as
Thanks for replying. I'm considering just not worrying about bulking and cutting but just adjusting my intake based on feel and appearance
His videos are just ads for his 45 different supplements and his cookbook.
seethe fatass
Post body your 150lbs twink.
He looks like moronic Sean Penn in that movie.
Maingaining is dumb because most people can do better than that. If you’re a beginner and you’re skinny, you can probably gain 2 lbs of muscle a month. Otherwise, 0.5-1 lb per month is a realistic goal, depending on experience level.
How? Does running a bigger surplus help? Theoretically at least it shouldn't matter at all.
You can force progression by eating, but that just makes you fatter for very little extra muscle gain. Most people are better off with a mild surplus, so that they can spend more time bulking and less time cutting. You should spend 1 month a year cutting and 11 months a year bulking, ideally.
Well yeah that's my reasoning as well. Anything you eat above basic energy expenditure + repair bill (protein and bonus energy consumption for gains) just goes to fat. So you want the minimum stable surplus to slow fat gain and stay in bulking mode for as long as possible.
this tbqh, I've been slowly bulking from January and roughly gained 5 kg. I think I probs have another 2-3 kilos to go which might happen early fall. then cutting until christmas and repeat cycle after new years. so cut to bulk ratio is roughly 1:2 for me. 4-5 years of lifting under my belt.
yet another e-celeb shill thread
bulking in 2023 was the wisest choice i think. i gained some fat ofc but my frame is way bigger now
>eat at a roughly 300-500 kcal surplus
>very mediocre/bad lifts still stalling or randomly going down
It’s either a programming issue or a recovery issue. Try to figure out what you’re doing wrong.
>listening to ANYTHING a israelites says
ngmi
>another eceleb gossip thread
>The Oracle
You're a Black person.