especially if your goal is to look good.
Let me ask you a couple of really simple questions:
1) are you going to get to a 2.5pl8 bench quicker following a meme bro split or a strength program?
2) who is most likely to be bigger? A guy repping 225x8 or a guy repping 185x8?
I have seen countless people who don't even look like they lift benching 185 for reps but I cannot remember ever seeing a guy repping 225 for sets of 8 who looked DYEL.
A 225x1 bench equates to about 185x8 and a 275x1 bench equates to about 225x8. There is a much better chance you'll look like you lift if you get to a 2.5pl8 bench opposed to a 2pl8 bench and it will take you much longer (if ever) to get to a 2.5pl8 bench following some meme push/pull or 5 day moron bro split
Oh yeah, and each of these guys in the OP bench at least 3pl8 for 1 and are natty and LMAO if you think they aren't - you'll never make it with your attitude and 100% look like trash
how bout you post your body instead champ
Read the filename
>Training like a strength athlete makes you look like a strength athlete
Tell me you have no idea how hypertrophy works without telling me you have no idea how hypertrophy works
sure buddy
Not OP but
>PC posting incel enters thread
>demands someone post body
>they do
>"thats not really you"
Every time
why would he make it so small and unnoticeable if he is comparable to the other bods in the pic?
>nta
sure buddy
Cope harder
>ya find out ur max and do that exercises but for 10 reps.
And who do you think is going to be bigger? A guy benching 225x8 or a guy benching 185x8? And who do you think gets to a 275lb bench quicker? The guy following some meme bro split or a guy who follows strength programs? Use your head, I can tell you're brown
8 reps is still in the hypertrophy range. But the Chad doing a gentleman's split will be bigger than both of these homies
>8 reps is still in the hypertrophy range
No shit moron
>the guy benching less will magically recruit more muscle fiber than the guy benching more
Lol
Cope harder
Sure I'll take a shirtless timestamp pic just for you the moment you take a timestamped pic of any part of your body. You CAN do that, right?
Training in 8-12 rep ranges gives you strength much slower than training in 1-5 rep ranges and your muscles also grow when training in low rep ranges.
what I thought, fat moron
>can't even post his finger bc he's brown
Lol and imagine entering a thread and making yourself mad lol go outside
That's not me anon, I'm the brown anon. Strength training for Hypertrophy is still dumb when you should be training for Hypertrophy with hypertrophy
I'm not OP moron
>can't even post a timestamp because he's larping
>is too stupid to realize his own cognitive dissonance
still no timestamp champ
>too stupid to realize his own hypocrisy
>will continue to come back to the thread to cry endlessly
yes
The sketchy pic tactic, the refusal to timestamp, and the attitude make it 500 to 1 that he's a seething bloattard powershitter.
Looks okay. Get stronger and get bigger. Dont neglect deadlifts.
Post time stamp, should be easy if you look that good sport
Still ignoring the fact that hypertrophy gives u strength
Strength gives u hypertrophy but at a slower rate
It's a trade off and most people care about looking good not lifting big weights
Hypertrophy works like this. ya find out ur max and do that exercises but for 10 reps.
Then ya find out small muscles ya wanna isolate and do them. Simple as and yk what it's working for me and I'm finally seeing progress
Also abandoning foam rolling 5x5
>Verification not required
I got bigger after making All my working sets 5x3. The most strong and pathetic guy at my gym lifts like this. He doesn’t even train for aesthetics. His goal is to not only look strong but be strong. Dyel high rep cope.
5x5 or 3 never worked for me. I got most of my numbers from 3x10. Which is what got my OHP from 135 for 4 to 155 for 10 and all my rows looked a lot cleaner too.
Don't care. The sticky is useless. And strength comes WITH hypertrophy training. Training like a strength athlete makes you look like a strength athlete.
I WON'T DO YOUR FOAM ROLLING 5X5
I train for strength. 1RM on S/B/D = 145/112/190kg. I am still pretty weak (180cm, 81.8kg). What do you guys think? I am trusting OP and hoping that I will look like a god in a few years.
U look great anon tho one of ur thighs is weirdly bigger ngl
Thanks, I think my thighs were pointing to different directions when I took the pic or something, I sure hope they are not that different lol
I think this is a troll thread.
If small bottom-right is really you, there's no way you got that from meme SS/SL powershittery. No way.
>there's no way you got that from meme SS/SL powershittery
You have terrible reading comprehension. You should do everything in your power to get to a 2.5pl8 bench and then lift in an 8-12 rep range - which would equate to around 225lb working sets
>You have terrible reading comprehension.
Or you do. When aesthetics bruhs say they're not interested in "training for strength," they mean stuff like 1RM training or 5x5 meme programs. They don't mean training for hypertrophy in a hypertrophy rep range with strength as a secondary outcome of progressive overload.
See
as it applies to you as well
A lot of strength is just neurological adaption and becoming efficient at a lift.
I'd rather gain strength by getting bigger muscles.
>neurological adaptation
I.e. your body's ability to recruit maximum muscle fiber. Once again, who is recruiting more muscle fiber i.e. tearing down more muscle? The guy benching 185x8 or the guy benching 225x8?
Nah if u think about it with hypertrophy you can go all out on a muscle and cause muscular damage and do that on another movement pattern while dealing with hypertrophy.
Strength on the other hand beats up your CNS too much to do that there's definitely a trade off of neurological and muscular damage being done
>can't answer the question
>goes off on some moronic tangent
Thanks for playing
Also I forgot to mention I keep my bench at 220 for 10 which is a lot more in terms of 1rm and in terms of tonnage which is what drives hypertrophy and what should be accounted for in gaining size.
I also didn't see much gains when strength training and just looked like a DYEL homosexual.
Now that I'm actually doing hypertrophy work it's night and day, I am never going back
Your moronic brain has you stuck on you thinking I am saying someone should only train for strength and never train for hypertrophy when I am saying you should be doing everything in your power to get to a 2.5pl8 bench so that, once you get there, you can begin training in 8-12 rep ranges using 225lbs.
Once again, someone benching 2pl8 for 8 is going to be much bigger than someone benching 185x8
What if the stronger person uses a wide grip, lots of leg drive and doesn't pause it? Whereas the weaker person uses a narrow grip and does it way more controlled?
>what if one person half reps and the other person doesn't? Who would get more muscle recruitment?
What an absolutely moronic question. Brown people need to be barred from the internet
What the frick are you even saying?
Someone should work on doing a 1RM 2.5pl8 bench so they can do 8 reps----- nah, you couldn't be that moronic.
Someone should work on doing a 2.5pl8 bench in the hypertrophy range so they can do a 2.5pl8 bench in the hypertrophy range? I guess you could be that tautologically moronic.
>Someone should work on doing a 1RM 2.5pl8 bench so they can do 8 reps
So they can do 8 reps @ 225, tardo. Lmao @ your reading comprehension
>1) are you going to get to a 2.5pl8 bench quicker following a meme bro split or a strength program?
I unironically did with a bro split and having a specific chest day (or even 2 chest days) a week.
Natties should combine lifting with cardio like swimming, rowing, running, etc. Eat as much as you want, but stay lean year round without feeling like shit.
>OP's pic carefully designed to defeat reverse image search
What a sad man.
>actually "reverse searches" people
Lmao
I agree with OP
Whether you actually grow an aesthetic body or not is based on leanness (i.e diet) and genetics. Your parents decided when they fricked how your bodyparts were going to look when reasonably well hypertrophied at a sufficiently lean bodyweight. Period.
If natty, the best way to grow muscle is by getting strong. Yes, some people are genetically blessed and m ight get a body part or two to just blow up from meme exercises. But most of us are in the m iddle of the bell curve. And doing meme, bodybuilding machiens and hyperrophy exercises are NOT going to work for us.
We shaould all just train to get strong in the basic barbell lifts. The get/stay lean while getting stronger. We will either look aesthetic or not depending on our parent's. Period.
But yeah. Pursue strength.
>first reply to OP
>posts that he agrees with OP
>poster count doesn't jump
>uhuh
>has gigachad body
>spends his time sperging on fitness forums
Yeah i think im gonna keep up with my "moronic bro split" while also hitting up the gym stacies
>>has gigachad body
his time sperging on fitness forums
Clearly you've never posted on the misc and that's really all anyone needs to know about you. Maybe take a break from fit, it's all incels here anyways (but maybe you're one ¯_(ツ)_/¯ )
these guys are all on exogenous hormones
Cope harder incel