>you're supposed to be able to increase the weights every workout for months
>I go to failure on press after just 3 workouts
I just can't build muscle I guess.
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>you're supposed to be able to increase the weights every workout for months
what is this esl gibberish?
>reading comprehension
Rule of the individual. Your chest more than likely needs less volume to grow. Adjust the program
Not eating enough. Come back when you have C-cups and are still stalling on The Press™
Bullshit. I've gained 5kg in 1.5 months. I started bulking first, then working out but not seriously, then working out seriously.
>I started bulking first
>then working out
????
Yeah what
Bulking involves lifting. If you were "bulking" but not working out, you were just eating.
No dumbass. Bulking is eating at a surplus. Plus I started working out early on after I started bulking, just not seriously at first.
Black person, if you bulk and don’t workout you’re going to put on exclusively fat. Wtf were you thinking?
Nah dumbass. Plus it was just a short time anyway. I was skinny, had been undereating, moron.
Use your fricking brain if you even have one. I'm not eating too little because I've gained 5kg in 1.5 months. I'm just saying I started bulking first to point out that I didn't do the press 3 times in 1.5 months.
What’s your press stalling at and how much do you weight? Spit it out.
35kg, 72kg
>didn't do the press 3 times in 1.5 months.
What does this mean fricktard? You should be pressing 1.5x a week every week for 3x5 each time and advancing 5lbs or 2.5lbs each time. What part of this are you fricking up?
Dumbass. I said I started bulking first. As I said I pointed it out so you morons don't think I did the press 3 times in 1.5 months. I didn't. I did it in 2 weeks or whatever. I just mentioned the 1.5 months to show that I'm not eating too little because I gained 5 kg in that time. Think, frickwit.
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on-responder. You never had a chance
by how much were you increasing the weight each workout? it might be worth getting 1.25 lb plates to increase by 2.5 lbs each time. less likely to stall
also eat enough (more than you are now)
haha
Linear progression isn't supposed to last forever, obviously. If it did then the top lifters would be benching like 2000 lbs.
Also did you actually read Starting Strength or are you one of those memespouting morons who only read the internet meme version of it and thinks it's just about downing oats and milk and doing squats until you puke?
You're supposed to start with the bar on OHP.
Not on SS
Where do you guys get this stuff
>If you're failing before your press at least than 185x5 you're fricking up
Literally nobody goes straight to 185x5 for press
Anyways OP this
plus what weight increases on the bar are you using. You might need 1 lb plates
>Literally nobody goes straight to 185x5 for press
That's how far my NLP took me before I even started to struggle. My point is that an average adult male should get pretty far before they hit a wall if they're actually doing things right.
I increased by 2.5kg each time as is the default setting in the SS app.
It says you will need to switch to smaller plates
Did you do all 5 lb jumps?
>It says you will need to switch to smaller plates
What is "it"?
rippetoe
'motor pattern' just means lifting with correct form. Not sure why you are hung up on this
Motor patterns means the efficiency with which nerves recruit muscles to perform a movement. The neuromuscular groove stays greased through more recent use. Holy shit you motherfrickers know literally nothing and want to argue about it anyway,
sounds kind of pointless
>Did you do all 5 lb jumps
Looking at my log, I starting having to make 2.5lb jumps at around 155, until having to really make changes at 190 where I was getting stuck, partially because I was single mindedly chasing a 225 1rm. I got it, and even 230, but I lost the stamina for 5 rep sets and had to reset a little.
>Not on SS
Meh, the starting point might as well be the bar for most people.
Part of the SS model is GOMAD. You're supposed to be in a ridiculous caloric surplus, so that your linear progression is a function of weight gain rather than muscular strength.
Height, weight and what your lifts all start at. In any case 5 Lbs every workout on overhead press has an extremely short lifespan. Oh and starting strength is moronic. How are people still doing this dogshit program in 2024?
*what your lifts all start at is relevant.
If you're failing before your press at least than 185x5 you're fricking up and too moronic to follow the simplest program around. I guarantee you aren't following the program and you're doing some stupid shit because you think you're some fitness genius. Tell us your height, weight, and what moron modification you've made.
I can't get over that there's anons itt that fell for the SS+gomad meme
It partially has to do with the smaller amount of total musculature involved in the OHP, so less overall adaptation can be made all at once, and it also has to do with the fact that SS has you alternating bench and ohp rather than focusing on one, meaning you're never recruiting either motor pattern optimally. Just choose the one you like most, do 5 sets of with it, and make up for it's limitations with isolation work. ie if you choose bench, do some front raises so your body remembers how to recruit overhead. If you choose ohp, work chest separately in whatever way seems good to you. This will get you a bit more longevity in your novice linear progression for upper body.
But overall yeah starting strength should be a short lived program. You need more targeted core work, more weighted vertical pulls, more upper body volume, and less lumbar shear. Lowbar squatting 3x a week is the downfall of a lot of people trying to make those quick gains last too long when those soft tissues are accumulating a lot more damage than the actual musculature is due to different rates of recovery between the different tissues.
Also in general frick deadlifting. If you pick up some lifts from the floor, like your cleans, calf raises, overhead press, front squat, etc, then you've got plenty of work done to have a healthy motor pattern for picking up heavy shit. Maxing out on that is moronic and demanding injury.
Everything you wrote is wrong. If you don't deadlift you're a pussy and you will never be a man.
Try muay thai, homosexual. Your manliness LARP is pathetic.
Not everyone recruits the same. OP would retain the motor pattern between sessions if they weren't 96+ hours apart between doing the same lift again. I lift very hard. I'm deep into intermediate territory. I overhead press my bodyweight and squat 2.5 times that. I'm just not a fat moron with his self image wrapped up in static lift numbers pretending manhood is wrapped up in his one hobby he uses as a replacement for actual athleticism and, most importantly, his ability to actually fight.
>Try muay thai, homosexual.
Big scawy fighter on the Internet! Too afraid to pick up a little weight though huh, pussy.
>Fat
>Can't fight
>Can't read either.
What a proud kind of man to be.
I didn't feel like reading your homosexual spiel about whatever. I'm happy for you and I hope you win your local small town exhibition fight with whatever loser they dredge up for you.
>It partially has to do with the smaller amount of total musculature involved in the OHP, so less overall adaptation can be made all at once, and it also has to do with the fact that SS has you alternating bench and ohp rather than focusing on one, meaning you're never recruiting either motor pattern optimally. Just choose the one you like most, do 5 sets of with it, and make up for it's limitations with isolation work. ie if you choose bench, do some front raises so your body remembers how to recruit overhead. If you choose ohp, work chest separately in whatever way seems good to you. This will get you a bit more longevity in your novice linear progression for upper body.
This is ridiculous. You can easily alternate them up to 2 plates/ 1 plate and higher. You only need to focus on one if you want to become a specialist.
Also this
. Low testosterone + midwittery = convoluted walls of text for why you don't have to lift hard
ohp is for gays
incline or flat bench or get fricked
t. too dumb to lift weights
Tragic.
Add smaller weights then moron, try smaller increments. Add an extra rep instead one work out then add a tiny amount and reduce the sets next
I'm looking to get back into lifting after a long time off
Should I get on SS to see how far I can progress before I start to burn out on gains? My 1RM before I stopped were
>Bench: 185
>OHP: 125
>Squat: 245
>Deadlift: 255
So still very much in the novice/beginner zone
Or should I go straight to Texas Method?
Definitely SS, just read this article and you'll be hella strong at the end of the year:
https://startingstrength.com/article/the_first_three_questions
Buy some microplates.
stop posting rippetoe
to have good results on ss, you have to increase your calories and steriod usage to support the, and even then, you'll cap out like he did.
The Rippetoe Cap is around 275kg/180kg/285kg for a 5'8 100kg guy in steriods and using knee wraps. Id rather listen to programming advice from a source without such a hard strength cap.