Hope you get liver failure from whatever snake oil you buy
>noone told me gymming was this expensive
it really isnt. dont blame others for your moronness
https://i.imgur.com/HzbtKoO.jpg
4 months of gym supplements cost over 300 euro
DYEL morons I lift more than all of you.
2 scoops a day for 4 months is about 8kg whey or casein
5g creatine a day
500mg magnesium glycinate
50mg zinc glycinate/picolinate
10k IU d3 + 100mcg k2
6g citrulline + 3g beta alanine + caffeine
Tell me how any of these is not needed and not proven to be helpful.
The idea is to be the best version of yourself and all of those help with muscle building or recovery so they're needed, not snake oil like that moron claimed earlier.
You can lift with 50g protein a day too but why bother if you dont maximize your gains?
>2 scoops a day for 4 months is about 8kg whey or casein
not needed daily if you eat properly >5g creatine a day
not needed daily >500mg magnesium glycinate
costs like two bucks a bottle which lasts for months >50mg zinc glycinate/picolinate
good multivita has these >10k IU d3 + 100mcg k2
good multivita has these >6g citrulline + 3g beta alanine + caffeine
not needed at all
>Tell me how any of these is not needed and not proven to be helpful.
All the jacked greeks just lifted shit and ate food, which is literally all you need
Who said I dont already take test? That is on top of the test.
https://i.imgur.com/z3Zzjzg.png
>Tell me how any of these is not needed and not proven to be helpful.
All the jacked greeks just lifted shit and ate food, which is literally all you need
They were all manlets and twinks they had 0 muscle
not that anon, but what's the point of vasodillators other than killer pumps? do they lower the stimulus threshold for muscle growth? more endurance/work capacity?
>2 scoops a day for 4 months is about 8kg whey or casein
Eat food instead. >5g creatine a day
Eat food instead. >500mg magnesium glycinate
Eat food instead. >50mg zinc glycinate/picolinate
Eat food instead. >10k IU d3 + 100mcg k2
Touch grass. >6g citrulline + 3g beta alanine + caffeine
Eat food instead.
IF you were to choose the best of those supps, it would be creatine, and creatine is cheap as frick. You also have a 25% chance to be non-responsive to creatine, probably higher if you already eat red meat.
the protein powered I get costs less than chicken breast (I eat both). So youre suggesting an even more expensive approach.
Food doesn't have enough of the rest you quoted and I aint going outside.
Is this really a meme? I was always on the higher side of protein and I’m getting 200+ for the last two years. My carbs are 300g and 90g fat is that good?
I'm gonna assume you're a newbie because of the way you worded your OP, but unless you are actually 100kg of lean mass and actively building more, you do not need 200+g of protein
Its funny how all you larpgays claim to have a 100kg ohp. 99% of gymgoers don't lift 2 plates OHP. Not even because they couldn't, but just because 3 plate+ benchers don't give a frick about OHP, especially to put in the work to get to 2 plates for no good reason .
You would know this if you ever actually stepped into a gym
Well if you only train bench obviously your OHP wont increase by much but it will still increase to some extent.
t. ran Smolov Jr without any OHP work and it still increased after my bench increased
4 months ago
Anonymous
It does carry over I'm not denying that. Most strong benchers probably COULD ohp 200. But they just don't care which is why dyels out themselves because they always mention their "2 plate ohp" As if this was a thing ppl cared about.
4 months ago
Anonymous
Its cool because you reach triple digit kg weight but i agree most people only care about bench only Redditors care that much about ohp as to consider it a main lift or prefer it over bench
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DYEL morons I lift more than all of you.
2 scoops a day for 4 months is about 8kg whey or casein
5g creatine a day
500mg magnesium glycinate
50mg zinc glycinate/picolinate
10k IU d3 + 100mcg k2
6g citrulline + 3g beta alanine + caffeine
Tell me how any of these is not needed and not proven to be helpful.
It's fricking over bros i even lost my job how will i survive in this inflation?
I had 70k and decided to buy an 20k used car because of fricking pride of grinding so long and 3 months after getting it I have to start paying rent (500 a month) for the first time in my life and I’m a freelance filmmaker and is dead season and make around 600 per month now until may.
My life is literally over. Should I frugalmaxx? I was fricking stupid buying that car bros.
Oh also I fricking broke up with my gf and can’t even get over her
I live alone in a 1 bedroom apartment, I make 41k ($20 minimum wage where I live) and my expenses come out to 30k annually give or take, rent is 20k a year gas is 2k insurances are 2k a year utilities are like 2.5k and food is like 3-3.5k
For me its 10€/month and thats an extra strong multivitamin. I probably wouldnt take it if I wasnt conscious of my "health" because of goin to the gym. I have spent thousands and thousands throughout 13 years of lifting on creatine, pwo, argininen, every single useless product just to come to the realization that in the end the amount to maybe 0,5% of your gains if that.
>spending $300+ a month on supplements to be a "natural lifter" >won't order and inject testosterone because either afraid of needles or think eating scoops of powder made in a chinese factory and 20 pills every day is more natural than injecting something your body makes and that actually works
"natural" lifting is pure autism. for decades now bodybuilding has been people using anabolics selling workout supplements to fricking morons that won't take the stuff that actually works.
160 and 8% seems like you have realistic natty expectations. This build gets kinda old after highschool twink phase though and no one can even tell you are fit in clothes so you just have to act like a Black person and take your shirt off every 2 seconds so you can show your abs.
You can honestly get there just running + calisthenics. Trying to get any substantial strength or size as a natural is an absolute exercise in futility.
This is the list of suplements you need: >
And that's it. The only ones that actually work are literal steroids, and you dont need to become a roid troony to get jacked at the gym either
OP, i was a moron buying pharmacy "approved" supps and spending 100+ euros on just milk+protein powder. I realised supermarket sups are just as good if not better and protein powder is not needed if you eat properly. I was spending 250 euros per month on moronic overpriced and impractical things. Get gud, OP and dont give your money at the first you that tells you BUY THIS
There is no supps in supermarkets here and even if there were it would be more expensive than my online source, i use hsn. If you have any better online source thats cheaper you can share
moron
DYEL morons I lift more than all of you.
2 scoops a day for 4 months is about 8kg whey or casein
5g creatine a day
500mg magnesium glycinate
50mg zinc glycinate/picolinate
10k IU d3 + 100mcg k2
6g citrulline + 3g beta alanine + caffeine
Tell me how any of these is not needed and not proven to be helpful.
>I'm bad at cooking food so I eat supplements
Many such cases
You. Need literally zero of those things
>no body
The idea is to be the best version of yourself and all of those help with muscle building or recovery so they're needed, not snake oil like that moron claimed earlier.
You can lift with 50g protein a day too but why bother if you dont maximize your gains?
The best version of yourself if not needing to ingest a ton of powder. Didnt read the rest.
>2 scoops a day for 4 months is about 8kg whey or casein
not needed daily if you eat properly
>5g creatine a day
not needed daily
>500mg magnesium glycinate
costs like two bucks a bottle which lasts for months
>50mg zinc glycinate/picolinate
good multivita has these
>10k IU d3 + 100mcg k2
good multivita has these
>6g citrulline + 3g beta alanine + caffeine
not needed at all
magnesium glycinate is expensive as hell nice troll post
Maybe use something less expensive
not bioavailable
I need them because I log everything in cronometer and its not enough
>cooklet
its just the usual lifting diet, what do you cook?
>10k IU d3 + 100mcg k2
I recognize that bulge.
you can cut out the zinc, citrulline, k2 and beta alanine
>Tell me how any of these is not needed and not proven to be helpful.
All the jacked greeks just lifted shit and ate food, which is literally all you need
>$35 a vial of test
>300mg test a week/10ML vial = 10 weeks
>10 weeks = 70 days
>$35/70=
0.50 cents a day, safer, and better results than all the shit you posted
But my doc wouldn't prescribe test for me, what do?
buy it yourself
Where? I don't live in a third world shithole where I can buy it otc
Who said I dont already take test? That is on top of the test.
They were all manlets and twinks they had 0 muscle
if that was true you'd buy cialis instead of your meme citrulline, beta alanine, and creatine for 24 cents a workout
not that anon, but what's the point of vasodillators other than killer pumps? do they lower the stimulus threshold for muscle growth? more endurance/work capacity?
You can combine them you know
Also it is only similar to Citrulline not creatine and beta alanine
>2 scoops a day for 4 months is about 8kg whey or casein
Eat food instead.
>5g creatine a day
Eat food instead.
>500mg magnesium glycinate
Eat food instead.
>50mg zinc glycinate/picolinate
Eat food instead.
>10k IU d3 + 100mcg k2
Touch grass.
>6g citrulline + 3g beta alanine + caffeine
Eat food instead.
IF you were to choose the best of those supps, it would be creatine, and creatine is cheap as frick. You also have a 25% chance to be non-responsive to creatine, probably higher if you already eat red meat.
TL:DR; eat food, go outside.
the protein powered I get costs less than chicken breast (I eat both). So youre suggesting an even more expensive approach.
Food doesn't have enough of the rest you quoted and I aint going outside.
You don’t actually go to the gym?
Is this really a meme? I was always on the higher side of protein and I’m getting 200+ for the last two years. My carbs are 300g and 90g fat is that good?
Gaylord
Hope you get liver failure from whatever snake oil you buy
Ouchie fauci
>noone told me gymming was this expensive
it really isnt. dont blame others for your moronness
4 months of gym supplements cost over 300 euro
Suplements are for gullable dyels. Eat quality food, sleep, recover and train.
Simple as.
I spend less than that on actual steroids
OP does your entire diet consist of gym supplements?
No I eat oatmeal, chicken breast, dairy, fruits, veggies, rice/potatoes/pasta, eggs on top of those that I wrote.
How are you gonna get any of those from cooking? If you mean the protein I need 200g+ a day since I weigh 100kg
Kys
>cooklet
>literal moron can't think for himself
>I NEED all of this supplements because I read it online and saw on youtube
I'm gonna assume you're a newbie because of the way you worded your OP, but unless you are actually 100kg of lean mass and actively building more, you do not need 200+g of protein
I can do 2/3/5/5.5pl8 so I'm not a newbie I worded the OP like that to get more attention to my thread hehe
Its funny how all you larpgays claim to have a 100kg ohp. 99% of gymgoers don't lift 2 plates OHP. Not even because they couldn't, but just because 3 plate+ benchers don't give a frick about OHP, especially to put in the work to get to 2 plates for no good reason .
You would know this if you ever actually stepped into a gym
Well if you only train bench obviously your OHP wont increase by much but it will still increase to some extent.
t. ran Smolov Jr without any OHP work and it still increased after my bench increased
It does carry over I'm not denying that. Most strong benchers probably COULD ohp 200. But they just don't care which is why dyels out themselves because they always mention their "2 plate ohp" As if this was a thing ppl cared about.
Its cool because you reach triple digit kg weight but i agree most people only care about bench only Redditors care that much about ohp as to consider it a main lift or prefer it over bench
>I need 200g+
Another meme.
DYEL
name one meme here
>Milk
>Egg
>Chicken
Let me guess, you need more?
He needs dicking so yea he needs moar
Average europoor kek
Seriously why are they so poor, I make minimum wage in america and have 10k to frick off with every year
>tfw i have only 50k in the bank at 31
It's fricking over bros i even lost my job how will i survive in this inflation?
I had 70k and decided to buy an 20k used car because of fricking pride of grinding so long and 3 months after getting it I have to start paying rent (500 a month) for the first time in my life and I’m a freelance filmmaker and is dead season and make around 600 per month now until may.
My life is literally over. Should I frugalmaxx? I was fricking stupid buying that car bros.
Oh also I fricking broke up with my gf and can’t even get over her
>10k to frick off.
You don’t have rent do you?
I live alone in a 1 bedroom apartment, I make 41k ($20 minimum wage where I live) and my expenses come out to 30k annually give or take, rent is 20k a year gas is 2k insurances are 2k a year utilities are like 2.5k and food is like 3-3.5k
For me its 10€/month and thats an extra strong multivitamin. I probably wouldnt take it if I wasnt conscious of my "health" because of goin to the gym. I have spent thousands and thousands throughout 13 years of lifting on creatine, pwo, argininen, every single useless product just to come to the realization that in the end the amount to maybe 0,5% of your gains if that.
>spending $300+ a month on supplements to be a "natural lifter"
>won't order and inject testosterone because either afraid of needles or think eating scoops of powder made in a chinese factory and 20 pills every day is more natural than injecting something your body makes and that actually works
"natural" lifting is pure autism. for decades now bodybuilding has been people using anabolics selling workout supplements to fricking morons that won't take the stuff that actually works.
Doesn’t gear make you ugly? Who cares about strength lol, my goal weight is 160 lbs 8% bodyfat
Human growth hormone makes people look bogged.
160 and 8% seems like you have realistic natty expectations. This build gets kinda old after highschool twink phase though and no one can even tell you are fit in clothes so you just have to act like a Black person and take your shirt off every 2 seconds so you can show your abs.
You can honestly get there just running + calisthenics. Trying to get any substantial strength or size as a natural is an absolute exercise in futility.
That’s fine I can be a Black person
I literally said for 4 months can't you read?
Roiders need food and supplements too, I would be taking the same if I was roiding.
I take
>multivitamin that is cheap as frick
>creatine that is cheap as frick
>fish oil that is cheap as frick
>whey
whey only useful for being lazy and not necessary. if you are broke drop it and the rest of the stuff is like $40/month
why is door handle so high? what is taylor hill doing here? whats the story behind the photo? god i love tall women.
Supplements are a meme.
Wtf are you buying?
This is the list of suplements you need:
>
And that's it. The only ones that actually work are literal steroids, and you dont need to become a roid troony to get jacked at the gym either
>did some budgeting the other day
>found out I'm spending $8 a day on supplements, not including protein
OP, i was a moron buying pharmacy "approved" supps and spending 100+ euros on just milk+protein powder. I realised supermarket sups are just as good if not better and protein powder is not needed if you eat properly. I was spending 250 euros per month on moronic overpriced and impractical things. Get gud, OP and dont give your money at the first you that tells you BUY THIS
There is no supps in supermarkets here and even if there were it would be more expensive than my online source, i use hsn. If you have any better online source thats cheaper you can share