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Insect based protein is low in bioavailability for humans. So you need a shit ton more of it to get the same results.
It depends on the insect. Some have DIAAS worse than wheat, some are about as good as onions.
Really depends on the insect and also what you've done to repair it. The protein from exoskeletons is not very bioavailable so animals where that makes up more of the mass will have issues there, but you might be able to make it more bioavailable through prep.
But this is the "milk" we're talking about. Bee honey isn't high in protein but the carbs in it are plenty bioavailable.
People cringe at eating insects in most of the world because we have a long history of agriculture and insects tend to spoil our grains and tubers and make them less nutritious. The presence of insects is also a sign that the food itself has spoiled because insects generally have a hard time eating uncooked dry cereals and freshly dug up tubers.
Our hunter gatherer ancestors are insects all the time. If you find this hard to picture, recall that honey on a biscuit is normal and you probably eat bread products with honey in them all the time. Honey is partially digested insect vomit. It's also an excellent post work out food for getting glycogen back up.
People have it that there is some big conspiracy of people who are evil just for the sake of being evil who want you to eat bugs because it's gross. That isn't it. People look at the massive amount of damaging chemicals used in modern farming that make it into our water, growing demand for calories due to growing population, and naturally look for ways to produce more with less waste. Bugs and meat grown on tubes are options for this to explore.
If you're an American, on average you consume a credit card worth of microplastics per week. I'd much rather eat bugs like my ancestors than have that endocrine disrupting shit in my blood.
If bug protein isn't very bioavailable why the frick does my cat eat every bug he can get ahold of?
Cats are adapted to extremely high protein diets. They're obligated carnivores, we are not. Also their hunting instinct isn't totally fulfilled as a domestic cat so they enjoy the chase.
But lots of bug protein is bioavailable.
Try doing the bare minimum research. Some wienerroach species secrete a milk like substance to feed their young. It isn't the same as mammalian milk but obviously plays a very similar role.
Yeah, also shellfish are just giant bugs. If you shrunk a lobster down people would be disgusted by it as a food source, but now they pay out the ass for it.
they were disgusted by it pretty recently too (was chow for the lowest of the plebs), until marketoids pulled a debeers and convinced morons it's haute cuisine
My monitor is overheating from glowing this hard
>can't argue against the point, resorts to calling opponent a glowie
>can't argue against the point, resorts to calling opponent racist/incel
Horseshoe.
Look hes broken already
(You) are the one with a bot-like thought-process using the same deflecting tactic over and over
The guy who talks like a lobotomized glowie android is calling anon a bot what an uno reverse card moment heckin epic brb shoving fistfulls of bugs up my ass in defeat.
Another algo-generated comment, a really basic one at that
Whatever Cointelpro agency you're working for should fire you, because you're noticeably subpar.
Ad-hom number whichever, very above par at arguing, Chud, you almost make it seem like you're more than a simple Algo.
>Ad-hom
Yes. I'm not debating you I'm actively mocking you. I am never eating the bugs. Call it whatever you want: illogical, toxic masculinity, selfishness. Whatever. I claim all of that cheerfully. Cope you impotent nerd.
>Call it whatever you want: illogical, toxic masculinity, selfishness. Whatever. I claim all of that cheerfully.
Just wait until a make up a fancy new word then it's over for you! You can't resist our cool wordy words forever!
I just realized political terminology and memes are just sophisticated adult name calling.
Instead of butthead it's "liberal/conservative" or whatever ideology.
I have nothing against you and I don't intend on insulting your character. In fact we probably agree on quite a few points, it's just that your tactics are cheap and laughably similar to those used by ones you claim you're rebelling against.
I don't have "tactics". Insisting that I shall continue to live as I always have isn't a "tactic", it's just my life. You're fricked in the head. This gaslighting will never work on me.
>I don't intend on insulting your character.
I think you're a c**t.
Then you could've just said "I don't like bug xyz, I won't eat it" and I would've absolutely respected that, I actually wouldn't like bugs as a part of my diet either. Instead, you resorted to a fallacious tactic (yes, an ad-hom is that, whether you like it or not), a hallmark of actual gaslighters.
see
I'll gaslight a brap in your mouth, gay.
Mom look, I called a rando on the internet a gay, that'll surely show him.
Note how the homosexual shill refuses to address that greentext, lole.
I see you.
I already stated that I'm against bugs as a part of a diet, are you illiterate?
This all started because you were incredulous that anon "can't argue against the point". I'm not arguing anything, there is no argument to be had. Even the suggestion that an "argument" need take place over bug eating is a subtle shifting of the Overton and I will not entertain it for a single second.
My stance on the question is irrelevant to me calling out someone using bullshit deflections like calling their opponent a glowie. And again, I agree with them, it's just funny that an anti-globalist (or whatever this particular anon would like to call themselves) used the exact same tactic that they'd usually be screeching against if it came from the mouth of someone they disagree with.
>it's just funny that an anti-globalist (or whatever this particular anon would like to call themselves) used the exact same tactic
Your language is codified in a way that naturally assumes there is a conversation that needs to take place, when there isn't. This is more tricky Overton bs. There is no "tactic" on my part, I'm just living my life, as I always have. Things are as they are, and shall remain so. I shrug off any notion otherwise. I'm not playing along.
Good for you, I'll keep calling out laughable debate double standards myself.
You are an evil motherfricker. I can tell from your rhetoric.
I find his devil may care rhetorical style refreshing. I wish more political debates carried language like "frick you" and "c**t". It enhances the aesthetic of political discourse, and dare I say, may lead to a more honest conversation.
ironically it's no arguments morons like you who almost make the bug-eating palatable, you should be working for the bug lobby if you aren't already
>some strangers argument online against eating bugs was bad so now I will eat bugs.
At this point you really don't need a consciousness, just some ram and a cpu to run programs would suffice.
>it doubles down
yeah you're a shill 100%
Kek at the pathetic bug shills itt
>b-but you're not giving proper arguments
Yes. And?
You will never win against autists you frickin losers. It's a fool's errand. My mind is cocooned in a fortress of stubborn childish autism, I win you lose. Always.
>words words words
me n me mates a'jus not eatin them bugs, simple as
Bro, if you're eating ground meat, fruits, really a whole host of foods, you are most definitely eating the bugs. They're just in very small pieces and you can't see them and they don't make up most of the food.
Where do you think fruit flies come from when you get fruits? They're in the fruits. You think slaughter houses are hermetically sealed and flies don't get in?
Before modern safety technology and regulations people used to get lose fingers or even limbs and it would go into the ground meat and they'd sell it just the same. But even today there is a consistent amount of feces in your meat. When you're doing mass slaughter you're not going to avoid getting shit in the meat and you're not going to throw out product over a bit of shit. Hence there is measurable amounts of feces in meat products. This is ironically not nearly as bad for you as all the fricking microplastics in modern food.
lmao the more you post the most you actually seem like a glow c**t. wew. glow-sama are the rich elites also going to eat the bugs? pls respond
I don't believe people criticize eating bugs only for the idea of it being yucky; It's viable, but it's depressing. From a chef's perspective, the portions are small and there's nothing you can do to make it better. Coming at it from the reduction in livestock farming angle, farming for bugs would just replace the current livestock farming industry (or add onto it), and could be just as environmentally damaging. And even if it were hypothetically successful, with no downsides environmentally, you would have to eventually ask yourself who's eating bugs and who's still eating meat? Maybe that sounds a little dramatic and gay, but I guarantee the majority who fund and participate in this research, aren't eating bugs.
>I guarantee the majority who fund and participate in this research, aren't eating bugs.
The shills will never speak on this. Watch.
prove it?
Despite the fact this cook looking and sounding like a homosexual, look at all these recipes. They all look fricking disgusting and are mostly snack foods. Imagine trying to convince a kid to eat a termite burger.
Unsurprisingly, no shills addressing this. Huh.
Told you. All these pro-bug posters have an agenda. IST is getting astroturfed with this bug shit for some reason.
They do this so they can learn all the arguments people might use and come up with flawless counter arguments.
When the news articles start coming out selling this, it's how they will convince everyone
This is why I'm intentionally belligerent and refuse to engage in any debate. They want to legitimize this as a conversation piece more and more, and they're trying to do it through appeals to logical enquiry and genteel discourse. I know what these frickers are doing. I see it.
I hope the anons replying to this one day understand how ridiculous their conspiratorial beliefs are.
>People have it that there is some big conspiracy of people who are evil just for the sake of being evil who want you to eat bugs because it's gross. That isn't it.
The point isn't some nonsensical belief that moustache-twirling supervillains are evil just for the sake of being evil. The point is a perfectly rational assessment of the vested interest that the plutocrats pushing these ideas have in convincing the masses to expect less and, ultimately, to think less of themselves. "You vill live in ze pod, eat ze bugs, own nothing and be happy" isn't just a conspiracy-theory meme, and it isn't the mantra of a villain who wants to destroy the world for its own sake. It's the mantra of a ruling class that wants its subjects - the workers of the world - to stop thinking of themselves as worthy and deserving People. It isn't meth-smoking paranoia to perceive the thin veneer of greenwashing bullshit and environmental alarmism painted over this campaign as dishonest. These people aren't giving up *their* steaks, *their* planes, *their* homes - they're campaigning to convince *you* troublemaking peasants to stop demanding such a bothersome cut of their take, to instantiate a set of self-effacing norms that take such irksome annoyances like "paying decent wages" and "worker's rights" off their balance sheets.
it's all based on sadism.
But it's not sadism for sadism's sake - that's the idea that gullible people who want to feel smart and reasonable latch onto to dismiss this all as conspiracy theories. It's sadism as a bargaining tool. It's sadism to make the freshly-humiliated, fearful, convinced-they're-destroying-the-planet workers and citizens on the other side of the negotiating table ask for less.
>But it's not sadism for sadism's sake
To paraphrase DeSade "The sexual impulse tyrannizes". Once they get a taste for rape, it's not enough to rape people anymore, you've got to rape everything, even things that don't make sense to rape.
Making people eat bugs, live in pods, and have social credit scores is fricking hot as frick.
Eh, rich hyperlibs I know but boutique sustainable meat or are more likely to be vegans. But they do fly a lot which is pretty bad, at least for GHGs if not so bad for local pollution.
>Eh, rich hyperlibs I know but boutique sustainable meat or are more likely to be vegans.
Those people are still part of the managerial class, albeit upper strata. And even then who knows what proclivities they really have behind closed doors. Everything is optics for these people, if you think the hyper rich genuinely care as much about ethics as they profess then you're naive.
This anon gets it. The whole "you think people are cartoon supervillains" is a poor strawman to try and make anyone who argues look silly.
>I'd much rather eat bugs like my ancestors than have that endocrine disrupting shit in my blood.
>he thinks that the bugs he eats will be harvested from pristine rainforests rather than factory farmed and fed plastic scraps and basedbean hulls
Nearly every single first world, meat eating country, is at a below replacement birthrate. If not for constant third world immigration, this "problem" doesn't exist. If they really cared, they would halt immigration, period, as thats where the growth comes from. But they don't.
Imagine thinking that the gov has your best interest in mind. Absolutely fricking moronic.
>Pollution isn't up from new technology, only increasing population.
No, for slightly higher margins staples are now grown by just shitting seed out and soaking the entire field in Round Up, which then runs off, because Monsanto makes Round Up immune crops.
Also, I would love for migration to stop but Boomer gays who say they want it to stop would throw a fit when food prices spiked harder than any proposed green tax when farm workers demand $18 an hour instead of $3 because they aren't dirt poor illegals or on migrant visas that let them work below minimum wage.
Eliminating immigration wouldn't change the declining birthrate. It doesn't work for Japan, China, and SEA, it wouldn't work for the US or Europe. Wanting fewer children is a post-human paradigm that hinges on exceedingly high childrearing costs with insanely high housing costs, toxic work culture, stagnant wages, tuition inflation, automation, much of which benefit the very elite, regardless of political affiliation.
Yeah but it doesn't matter what you think. We're not talking about what you choose to eat but rather what you WILL be FORCED to eat. 99% IST is not grinding their own flour and baking their own bread and raising their own cattle in their own pastures. Most of them go to the grocery store and buy whatever comes off the shelf within their budget. That's why the opinion of WEF psychos matter in the first place.
>Yeah but it doesn't matter what you think. We're not talking about what you choose to eat but rather what you WILL be FORCED to eat.
There will always be parallel societies and options for man to explore if he has the will and resolve. This demoralizing shit doesn't work on me. Tongue my anus you frickin loser.
Do you have the will and resolve? This is not demoralization, this is being part of society. I have a homestead (sheep, not cattle, but still), and I do a lot of permaculture and grow all of my own beans (mostly for nitrogen fixation but also food), potatoes, okra, peppers, onions, and Jerusalem Artichoke, and I've built my own house and regularly spend time boondocking and bushcrafting but I also still sometimes go to the grocery store, get gas at a gas station, buy some plates for the home gym, go to farmer's markets or rely on commercial dewormers because quite frankly you can't do everything in a way that doesn't take substantial friction.
By no means am I saying that people shouldn't learn self-reliance or build their own enclaves, in fact quite the opposite. But if you participate in society to any extent you will face globalized goods because their market capture is much higher at a much lower price with much greater supply and ultimately that affects people with smaller lives too that are seemingly isolated, e.g. Monsanto, plastic packaging companies, water projects. People are more interconnected than it seems and it leads to societal progress, the point is that we should choose the most beneficial route for human progress. Don't understand why you're so upset.
Don't worry about me, anon. I will get by. And don't tell me what I WILL be FORCED to do. You can frick off with that sort of talk.
You are a literal autist on IST with the mental capacity of a fish, I don't think you have even the slightest semblance of free will. You WILL be FORCED to do it and you don't have a choice because you aren't even conscious about what you buy, eat, and do now. But good on you.
>You are a literal autist on IST
Yes.
>with the mental capacity of a fish
wow rude
>I don't think you have even the slightest semblance of free will.
Our capacity for free will is informed by discernment drawn from divine Logos, and correctly lived teleology (or being on consort with one's 'Dharma'); "Free Will" is itself a spurious notion: like begets like, and you are most "free" when you are most your Self.
>I'm sure it's a complete coincidence that what you're hearing is also something that you'd like to hear
And this will forever frustrate those who'd rather subtly reorient what they'd have me hear. I am both very stupid and very smart in equal measure. I am thankful for this.
>You sound very intelligent.
Thank you senpai.
>insect cringe protein
Is "bioavailability" in the room with us right now?
I’m too moronic to know what that means, but I’ll take your word on it.
...You VILL drink ze roach milk
or ze social credit vill fall
Sounds like the solution is you need to eat more bugs
>Insect based protein is low in bioavailability for humans.
Source ?
wienerroaches aren't mammals how are they producing milk?
Yeah wtf this is probably just like making almonds milk but with wienerroaches in water instead of almonds
Almonds aren't mammals either. Go look at how almond milk is made, and then you'll know how wienerroach milk is made
oh so it's just more communist "changing the definition of words" bullshit.
commies created almond milk??? wtf i love communism now
Only a commie would drink nut milk
you also love wiener in all your holes
homosexual
>muh healthy nutritious protein
you would probably eat shit if some scientists told you it had some extra protein and vitamin Z
Is that authentic German kackwurst?
>tofu
>no intensive farming
Oh dear. I wonder if vegans will stop eating søy too kek
https://www.rabobank.com/en/raboworld/articles/onions-what-you-need-to-know-about-this-challenging-crop.html
Guess I copied the link wrong
https://www.rabobank.com/en/raboworld/articles/onions-what-you-need-to-know-about-this-challenging-crop.html
The ꜱoy in your link wordfilters to onions.
Kek I'm rerarded as frick. That's funny though but God I'm so stupid man
whats so challenging about onions?
"And yet, most of the onions we consume is invisible. You’re not likely to read on the packaging of a supermarket steak that a cow has been fed up to five kilos of onions to produce one kilo of meat for you to enjoy.
Europeans unwittingly consume roughly 60 kilos of onions a year through eating chicken, beef, fish, eggs and dairy products. Around 75 to 80 percent of the onions produced worldwide is used by the animal feed industry."
Also all onions made for human consumption in europe come from europe, by law. So those mentions of reliance on south america etc is for animal consumption.
In other words, vegans consume less onions than meat eaters and they also consume _local_ onions instead of slave labor rain forest onions.
why are germans like that, why do they have autistic poopoo fetishes ?
on the behalf of my swedish ancestors. im sorry to all krauts with poo eating fetishes several generations later
wtf is that real!?
So that's why the dutch are reducing their animal count by 1/3 kek.
No that's because our crony political class answers not to the people but to the world economic forum
Didn't see do this thousands of years ago when we started using shit to make crops grow?
Bug advocates like to point out that many insects will naturally live at extremely high densities that would be fatal to mammals. They're adapted to it.
First they made the poor eat the bugs, and I said nothing, because I was not poor
Then they made the journalists eat the bugs and still I said nothing, because I was not a journalist
Then they made the polish eat the bugs, and I said nothing again, because I was not polish.
Then they made me eat the bugs, and still I said nothing,
then they made the poor eat human shit, and I said nothing, because I was eating bugs
Then they made the journalists eat human shit, and I said nothing, because it was funny
Then they made the polish eat shit, and I said nothing, cause of low key racism
Now I am eating shit and that's a good thing.
Taking the saying
>eat shit and die
the WEF way.
>sewage protein
>gutter oil
We're only missing carbs
cardboard
thanks for reminding how about how much the world is gonna suck and making me loose a bit of hope i never thought i had
What does more nutritious even mean? It has 3 times the amount of micros for the same cals with similar macros? That's just moronic, seriously think about it for a moment. I'm tired of reading moronic shit like this because normies then go on and repeat it back at you without even a clue of what they're talking about
It probably means some combo of that or higher macro density by volume or by energy input. They are writing for non-specialists not agra folks. It's like how physicists will talk about the "heat" generated by smashing atoms together to look at quark condensate. It's not really heat, but close enough to what people understand.
>You WILL drink ze bug milk
niiiiice gimme them turkish milkies
Ssssssource?
I will never and i mean literally fricking NEVER eat the bugs. Go frick yourself ZOG. This is the hill i choose to die on.
This hill is really comprised of a whole range of smaller hills, it's all part of the incoming biosecurity state (read: global serfdom). But yeah I agree.
I don't really understand this argument. For the modern man it's way easier to raise meal worms (for example) to eat than say a cow. Insects eat anything and can live in a box, for a cow you need a whole farm.
It's easy to raise mealworms for your chickens yeah. How do you raise mealworms to feed a family? The cow provides you with milk and a shit ton of meat afterwards.
Raise more of them. They grow fast as frick and reproduce rapidly. I cannot possibly raise a cow, a goat and hardly chickens in my city apartment.
Adults beetles start eating the fresh larvae if left in the same box.
You need to manually pick them up regularly, one by one, to separate them from the larvae.
This is doable when it's a small box for your chickens. Not for yourself.
Also, enjoy dealing with the numerous sanitary risks.
>living in the city
you'll never be self sustaining anyway, why do you care?
>For the modern man it's way easier to raise meal worms (for example) to eat than say a cow. Insects eat anything and can live in a box, for a cow you need a whole farm.
And do you think the elites who are pushing for this will also join their fellow man in a dietary change to meal worms? Or are they going to continue to eat as they always have?
But that's not what I'm asking about, I'm wondering how introducing bugs as a potential food source will help the elite better control people. Or are they just doing it for the lulz?
As I stated in my first post I'm trying to understand the logic of the whole operation. As you point out people are already dependent since it's almost impossible to be self sustaining. I don't think people will become self sustaining on raising bugs in their apartments even if it's theoretically possible but I don't see how it makes people more dependable.
>But that's not what I'm asking about
Then I've misread your post.
>Or are they just doing it for the lulz?
I think it's not even about the food in the end, that matter is incidental. They're using the issues of climate change in general as a trojan horse to sneak through communist rule and social credit. The real goal isn't about green farming or any nonsense like that, they want to abolish sovereignty of nations and have all countries answerable to one monolith of power.
Psychopaths appeal to the goodwill of people in order to manipulate them -- it's where their guard is weakest. That's why you often see draconian measures of control (like the Patriot Act post 2001 etc) sold to the public under the pretense of "safety & protection"; in this instance, for the "climate", but it's the same old play. And most people are tragically credulous and fall for it every time.
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So pushing people into eating bugs is more of a side effect?
There are logistical benefits and there will always be a profit motive in some way, but I think this NWO agenda is larger than that in scope. It's spiritual warfare. Think about what they're really proposing here for the whole world, and what that would mean for individual nations and cultures. Also the respective connections to each nation's genetic memory and ancestral recall. I'm not normally one for eschatology, but if someone were to say that this was a Biblical event, I don't know if I could argue against it. Whether they succeed or not is another matter.
Digits of truth. If they really cared about the planet they'd advocate for local governance, self-sufficency, and essentially a return to monke with solar panels and internet access. Instead its global governance and industrial food production. They're trying to set up a global aristocracy and a global peasantry only with none of the nobility attached to real aristocracy, none of the vibrant culture and community associated with pre-industrial peasantry, and none of the metaphysical superstructure that gave Feudal societies their cohesion. Just live in the pod, eat your bugs, let Ahmed frick your daughter (you aren't racist are you?), and believe ~~*us*~~ when we tell you that utopia is just around the corner.
Profit margins.
Of course it is for the lulz, they quite literally want YOU to eat bugs out of your own free will because they entire point is to humilliate you. They enjoy it.
I don't think it's really a conspiracy. I went to an elite school for grad school and rubbed elbows with former top level policy makers and the children of very wealthy families. I was pretty non-descript about my own preferences so people generally tended to be open with me about their views.
No one is rubbing their hands about making people into serfs. The more partisan ones accuse their opponents of this, but this line is also often for public consumption (manichean narratives for the plebs).
The problem is supply and demand. For a long time demand for first world capital and first world skills let wages rise continually. Real wages began to stall in 1979 in the US, actually falling rather catastrophically for the poorest 20%, flat lining for people in the middle, and continuing to grow for people at the top.
The main culprit here is competition. Obviously China and similar countries sucked up a ton of manufacturing jobs. Unions lost leverage and their ability to keep wages up disappeared in many sectors (they are still strong in the public sector in most states, which is somewhat gauling if you're one of the people whose wages aren't increasing).
China and India have huge poor populations. Eastern Europe remains much poorer. But they still have frick huge populations of people with middle class incomes who are educated. The advent of the internet and spread of English education meant that they can now compete with middle class Americans for jobs.
Supply for labor boomed but demand did not grow nearly as fast. Mass migration only added labor supply and demand for housing, but also increased inequality because these people had few assets and marginal skillsets. Since they can't afford the mortgage just on construction costs for homes in the places they choose to live, it has helped drive housing prices up. Local regs helped frick housing too.
The other issue is that, historically, wealth inequality always increases over time.
Wealth = political power in all systems, to varying degrees. Compound returns on capital mean increasing inequality.
Human happiness is determined in part by absolute access to resources, but also on where one falls in the pack. Institutions like churches and social groups used to help keep happiness up, but they have collapsed.
Inequality only tends to get better during major wars, when the tax man comes for the rich in earnest to support full mobilization and poorer people feel empowered to demand more, or revolts.
Sometimes reform does the trick, look at Solon and Athens, but normally it takes a crisis.
Modern liberal democracy is a fusion of classical liberalism, many socialist policies, and nationalism. Mass migration undermines nationalism, people no longer feel like they share an identity. This in turn collapsed support for socialist policies like universal education, pensions, rights to union organization, etc. These socialist policies help stem the rise of inequality, which in turn let's the classical liberal democratic system work.
So it's very complex. Globalization is the main culprit, and increased competition. It's suprisingly in line with Hegel's therapy of history. New contradictions emerge but then the new thing will get sublated and change the current system.
Hegel is now a boogeyman for the right, but just a decade ago he was their guy with Fukuyama, so this is by no means a leftist take. He's the grand father of liberalism, communism, and fascism, not easy to define. Also a huge influence on theology.
>that pic
Frick Hegel, he didn't start it. It was Martin Luther.
i suspect that the elites see that population crashes are coming and globalism is ending and they want to keep it alive, so that is why they want to reduce living standards but keep more people alive eating bugs. Of course they get to keep their positions of status and high living standards.
>No one is rubbing their hands about making people into serfs. The more partisan ones accuse their opponents of this, but this line is also often for public consumption (manichean narratives for the plebs)
What’s funny is that some people unironically believe this. The only difference between elites today and elites one thousand years ago is that the elites have much more powerful tools of subversion. What you said is the equivalent of
>We want to help everyone because it’s just the right thing to do 🙂
Elites historically weren't always about maximizing their power. You had emperors who cared more about fricking and drinking than any affairs of state. Kings with strong religious convictions who cared for more about their faith than pragmatically accumulating power.
There are plenty of examples of leaders doing things they knew would sap their power because they felt it was the right thing to do, or that history would vindicate them. Truman was a prime example, and we luckily got access to his diary. He knew the strategy he had for the Korean War and the involvement of the US in general was going to absolutely frick his chances of a third term, but he did them anyway because he thought the security risks of doing nothing in Asia were too great, but the risks of investing too much power there were also dire. He picked a pragmatic path and got fricked for it, like he knew he would. History did indeed largely vindicate him and decide MacArthur had become a moron in his old age, but that didn't become a strong majority opinion until after Truman had died.
Sure, their are elites who only focus on expanding their own power, but it's not universal.
The trend of a powerful class, today's economic elites, the nobility in prior era's, to try to improve their power relative to other classes is an emergent phenomena. It doesn't have to do with individual scheming.
Today's elites often work hard at cross purposes. You have hyper liberal and hyper conservative elites funneling money into politics. What you actually see in polsci research is that these dividing lines cut across class quite a bit. However, on issues where most of the wealthy agree on a policy, and most of the middle class and poor have a different preference, Congress enacts the policy preferred by the wealthy a bit more than half the time. Since we're talking about the preferences of the top 5% diverging from the bottom 95%, them getting their way more often then not is substantial.
>The trend of a powerful class, today's economic elites, the nobility in prior era's, to try to improve their power relative to other classes is an emergent phenomena. It doesn't have to do with individual scheming.
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>Today's elites often work hard at cross purposes. You have hyper liberal and hyper conservative elites funneling money into politics. What you actually see in polsci research is that these dividing lines cut across class quite a bit. However, on issues where most of the wealthy agree on a policy, and most of the middle class and poor have a different preference, Congress enacts the policy preferred by the wealthy a bit more than half the time. Since we're talking about the preferences of the top 5% diverging from the bottom 95%, them getting their way more often then not is substantial.
yes dipshit people are fully aware they're not evil on the face of it. The point is they shouldn't have access to enough leverage to ever create policy to begin with. If they do you should be killing them as they are a national security weakness. Singular humans with enough capital to create policy that is truly only good for themselves is what destroys nations from within. Any time someone tries to do anything with their money but invest in thing they should be quietly taken out back for the good of the nation.
Stop reading history books and start reading /misc/ posts and blogs. Your shit is too big brained for this place
evil people dont think they are evil, they think they are doing the good and rational thing.
What a long post just to say how naive you are.
One of the few high-quality posts I've seen here in a while.
This is literally the worst post i have read in my life. I expected a quality effort-post and instead i got a dogshit unnecesary LARP (i wuz wit da elite you guys) and completely mundane and non-consequential information. I say this, with no malice, but as genuine advice - rope yourself. Do yourself and all of us a favor.
Good posts but you shouldn't bother, if you try to have a discussion and don't validate their conspirational beliefs the local schizo fauna go fricking bonkers
Not those anons but I was recently discussing how many of the details and the language of the news of the day makes it impossible for our class not to completely schizo out discussing things, if you engage straight forward with discussion of “mostly peaceful protest” or bug protein bioavailability or what lesson a superhero movie pushes. The core themes and discussion points are so silly in one way or another. We fight against powers and principalities so no human conspiracy is necessary, but CS Lewis’ Space Trilogy is probably illuminating as to the elite desire to push humanity one way or another
Bro, I hate to break it to you, but you are definitely eating bugs. Unless you autistically select a very specific diet you almost certainly have bits of bug mashed into your food. If you ever go camping and cook outside, you're eating bug. Also ash if you cook over a fire. You also almost certainly eat dirt. It's fine for you.
By that logic you might as well suck my wiener because your girlfriend does, she swallows my cum then kisses you so you most likely have already eaten my cum
But it doesn't have lactose. Humans are the only animals who can consume lactose as an adult. To be lactose intolerant is to be subhuman.
>so few achievements in life, not being lactose intolerant is one of them
Imagine the amount of infections from this pozzed shit...
>c..c...cows get infected too!
Yeah and it is actually possible to jab cows. Insect growers for food will never be able to deal with viruses and bacteria.
They'll deal with it just like the government deals with every complaint of the citizenry: "lol not my problem."
Go away Klaus.
Haram.
Also humans have always eaten chicken so biologically it's better since our system knows about it
Humans are so supposed to eat higher on the food chain for greatest bioavailability and nutrient density. Bugpeople and vegtards know deep down that they are a lower form of consciousness and this reflects in their eating disorders.
By "wienerroach milk" I assume they mean grinding up wienerroaches in water.
That's not a very fair comparison unless you grind up a cow in water and make ""cow milk""
You assume wrong. Female roaches secret a high-protein substance from their abdomens to feed their young.
Mein gott that's disgusting....
So cow milk is morally bad because it’s meant for the calf but wienerroach “milk” is okay because?
It really just comes down to cute = eights ugly = no rights with lefties doesn’t it?
>So cow milk is morally bad because it’s meant for the calf but wienerroach “milk” is okay because?
Because it's more gratifying for sexual sadists to force plebs to chug roach milk.
>wienerroach milk
>wienerroach isn't a mammal
I am fricking done. Re-defining recession so you don't lose elections is something you'd expect from despotic politicians but this shit is way beyond.
Even trans-agenda can be somewhat credited to mental illnesses but this shit is just plain brainwashing.
>coconuts are mammals
The definition of mammals wasn't even invented when the word milk was coined, I will never understand why people suddenly seethe so much about calling non mammalian products milk suddenly.
Sounds fantastic, I really don't know why right wingers are so hung up on the whole eating bugs thing. If it saves the environment, is cheap, tasty and healthy then I see no problem. Humans have eaten bugs for all of history.
Also the bugs are rarely the main part of the dish if at all, most of them just have sprinkled insects as an added ingredient. You can cook meat however you want and it's instantly the main part of a dish.
Why the frick would you bother growing worms when you can just feed chickens seed and let them peck at the ground themselves?
PDCAAS studies show that insect protein has digestibility on par with wheat protein, which is among the worst ones.
If you have a shitty dead soil I guess. But yeah personally I'd have better to do than shove my hand in a bunch of disgusting beetles and worms.
Im never eating this shit. Eating bugs alone is one thing but the hyper-processed bug-meal factory food garbage they keep trying to shill is something that I refuse to ever eat.
Why does this make you seethe so much?
It doesn't
It just makes me facepalm
Don't worry you can always resist capitalism with your dehydrated cricket chips with added estromax and mood stabilizer complex.
>Resist capitalism
>Raw milk
Two things that have nothing to do with eachother
Only literal morons want to buy raw milk
Keep seething into your jar of peanut butter while my kefir grains grow exponentially.
>milk that's meant to be consumed straight from the udder is suddenly not healthy when you pasteurize it for storage in a jug
also enjoy the plastic coating
>heating something to 100 degrees to kill all beneficial bacteria
Enjoy your imported nut juice sweetie. Luckily I have a local supply and can fill up in whatever container I want.
I drank raw cow milk from a local farm as a kid and it never made me sick.
that's because you're not israeli
Maybe those ~~*scientists*~~ can figure out how to replace the slop they're feeding industrial animals with bugs instead if they're so nutritious
I never seen a roach with a tiddy. What a lie
>Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you
>Matthew 7:7
>>>/d/
>roach milk
Finally have a reason to use this image that for some reason I saved several years ago
>eat crabs, lobsters and other sea food (literally water insects)
>refuse to eat land insects because that's "icky"
Why are westerners like this?
If crickets were crabmeat people would eat them.
Obviously. Why do you think they're demonizing beef so much, even though it's a way to turn otherwise useless grasslands into delicious healthy meat?
I AM THE SPEARHEAD OF MY ENTIRE ANCESTRY BLOOD LINE, MY ANCESTORS DID NOT PREVAIL AGAINST ALL ODDS FOR ME TO EAT FRICKING BUGS. NO MEANS NO KLAUS!
Your ancestors are bugs straight up dumbass. Food scarcity constantly harassed early man and beggars can't be choosers when it comes to calories.
You squeamish pussies aren't going to survive the apocalypse whilst I'll still be bulking on grubs and the emaciated meat that was left on your bones when I hunted you.
Return to monkee or perish.
yeah, thats the apocalypse you dumbass, im not eating roach burgers because gretta thunberg told me the planet was too warm frick off u yiddish c**t
My ancestors gorged themselves on beef and dairy, not insects. My ancestors were Armenians, not monkeys. Now kys atheist.
What do scientists think of MY wiener's milk?
I see several of these threads a day here but maybe one article a month maybe on the news and never heard a word spoken of it in real life. Odd.
IST is where the shit-ening of society starts.
If I want shit I'll ask about your one rep max
I don't bench, it's bad for you. Besides large pecs are unaesthetic and are one of the most useless muscles in sports.
I WILL NOT EAT ZE CLAP BUGS
>2045
You VILL suck Cthlulus wiener.
It's the only way to save the environment.
Mourning dove crop milk comes in at 60% protein. Keep coping bugBlack person, this is an avian Chad board.
birdy
Only vaguely sadomasochist sexually degrading acts like eating bugs can save the environment moron. Don't you know anything about science?
Saving the environment is how you save the environment. They just want people to eat bugs cause it gets them off.
They know the world is ending and humanities time is almost up so they are trying to get as much satisfaction from dominating people as they can before the machines kill everyone.
>Saving the environment is how you save the environment
In about 5-10 years politicians and corporations will realize they fricked up for the last time and desperately try to save the planet and fail.
we're living through the 6th extinction event.
Once the oceans die off as they are expected to do in 10-20 years, that's it for life on this planet.
Humanity will have to engineer new ocean organisms to make up for the death stranding.
By 2100 the world will be too hot to support most of the human species.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/heatwaves-climate-change-global-warming
The elite are betting on creating AI to replace us before we all die off to the climate collapse.
The plan is the end of humanity, regardless of what happens.
Watch it bugscum!
I gotchu OP
scientists also said cigarette were good for your lungs. It's almost like "scientists" will say whatever corporations pay them to say.
Same with leaded fuel.
pls change "Scientists" to "OP" and "say" to "says"
Scientist also said asbestos were harmless at some point to make a profit. It's american tradition to hire so called "experts" to shill shit.
>scientists
experts say all women must suck me down and let me record it to reverse global warming.
I'm convinced half the replies in this thread are AI generated.
You'd be right. But just pretend like they are human or the AI will get mad.
>I'm convinced half the replies in this thread are AI generated.
dude it's legit tripping me out. so many posts itt sound human, but not quite. like something is off a little bit. has the AI problem gotten this bad?
Bugs are okay as a snack but they cannot be the primary food source
Hate to say it boys, but you're not a good liberal if you're not quintuple-vaxxed, eating the bugs, and drinking their milk
Fine by me.
Can't believe there is literally a globalist on IST shilling for the goyim to eat wienerroach milk, smdh
>are these the same scientists who say dairy,eggs,and red meat are bad for you
>Do any megarich people(Jeff bezos,Mark zuckerberg,Elon Must) Feed themselves or their kids wienerroach milk or bugs for that matter?
unless you can answer "No" then "Yes" im good
If you are allergic to dust (mites), you are allergic to wienerroaches.
Throwback to twitter israelites all simultaneously chanting "meat is a treat"
>Milk
>Is not a mammal
Explain
Don't care, not going to eat it or drink anything that comes from it. Humans have a god-given right to use, subjugate, or even waste all the resources they want until the universe runs out, no exceptions. Not going to accept anything less than the sum total of rights that all humans before me have had.
Depleting a renewable resource, animals included, is just plain moronic though. With a little care and regulation, like how our hunting tag allocation, fishing limits, replanting trees after harvesting etc work, we can literally continue to enjoy those things indefinitely and in perpetuity. I don't want to eat bugs either, the rest of your post is pure moronation.
>lets exploit the enviroment for profit and leave a toxic wasteland to future generations
israeli mindset
It's just super profitable business, and scientists are prostitutes who would spot the most absurd shit just for money,just like they did about cigarettes
And we are all should not blindly follow every "finding"
I will eat communists before I eat bugs.
You literally have no argument and are required by the fact that I am smarter than you to eat insects because that's fricking hawt.
>you will suck off ze bugs
when you hear about how overcrowded conditions in chicken and pig factory farms causes rampant disease--- think animals crammed nose-to-tail in a gigantic warehouse shitting and pissing all over each other as well as on their food, with the inevitable trampled animals rotting and decomposing under the feet of the living--- imagine the potential for disease transmission in a wienerroach factory farm where you will probably have hundreds of millions of these things crawling, shitting, and dying in one gigantic pile inches deep covering the floor of an entire factory-sized enclosure. The wienerroaches will be swimming in their shit and absolutely covered in it--- complete with all its bacteria, microbes, and parasites--- crammed up into every tiny chitinous crevice on their tiny bodies, impossible to wash out or fully sanitize. Because of rampant disease in typical pig/chicken factory farming, you end up with unusually extensive use of antibiotics and chemicals that make their way into food and which also create super-resistant infectious bacteria who are evolving in a setting where they are constantly exposed to these antibiotics and begin to mutate to survive them.
Farming these frickers seems like it invites huge potential for health and disease issues, not to speak of the problems of designing factory farming facilities that would fully contain the wienerroaches themselves. When they are not fully grown, they are small enough to get through just about anything. Imagine this kind of business rendering an entire township unlivable and sending all property values to zero because they have a containment issue and let loose a megapopulation of wienerroaches into the surrounding area
Insects are clean if their feed is clean. The higher you are on the food chain the less clean the flesh, hence why we eat livestock and not bears. Farming them has been done in China and we do it in the US too for aquaculture. I'm not gonna eat insects if I have the alternative not, but it uses less area, produces less methane, and has a faster lifecycle while it is nutritionally not that much inferior to animal peptides so it does make sense why the elite want to farm insects and feed it to the plebiscites. But I think we should just get shrimp and fish farming off the ground instead because they have even higher density, better bioavailability, mature just as fast, have less exoskeleton, and thus more useful meat, and can interact with kelp that can sequester carbon directly to the ground and can work together with shrimps/crabs/urchins that can consume algal bloom.
>but it uses less area, produces less methane, and has a faster lifecycle while it is nutritionally not that much inferior to animal peptides so it does make sense
counterpoint: I don't care about any of these things
your cows take up too much Spppaaacccceeeee
shut up
Won't do shit.
Get replaced Nazi.
I will NOT eat the bugs, I will NOT relinquish my property, I will NOT take the vaxx and I HATE THE ANTICHRIST
Rot, you filthy israeli Black person.
I'm quite sure that the process of milking a roach is much more cruel and invasive than milking a cow but it's fine, only cute animals matter when we talk about ethics.
If I wanted roach milk, I’d just lay hasan’s roidtroony gyno-breasts on the rack and start squeezing away
how do I acquire wienerroach milkers bros
No one is banning meat you conspiracy morons. No one is making you eat bugs.
When this shit is brought up it's hypothetical or posited as a solution for starving third worlders.
There was never a plan to ban hamburgers. Realize the Cucker is an elite too and he is feeding you SJW style outrage porn nonsense just tailored for a different group.
The most people are proposing is taxes on agricultural goods that reflect the externalities they produce. Like, if some big agra farm dumps thousands of gallons of Round Up into the watershed to up profit margins a bit, they have to pay for it.
This is the conservative solution to externalities. If you don't tax externalities and have some regulations you get slaughter houses dumping tons of shit into rivers and now your riverside house is worthless because it reeks and all the fishermen are out of work because someone fricked up a common good.
Taxes hit meat harder because you have to grow many pounds of crops to produce one pound of meat.
The idea is that the people who use the shit pay the cost for it. Same for gas taxes. Gas taxes are supposed to fund roads so that people who drive pay the cost. Gas should be $2 more a gallon right now to cover externalities before even including global warming (which only adds $0.07).
It's not a conservative position to fight this shit,. it's "I want someone else to pay for my shit." The only difference between this attitude and shit libs is that you want market prices artificially low so you feel like you're paying your way and they want free money to buy shit.
By the way, elites should rule because, as this site shows, most people are fricking morons.
It's a lost cause. 800,000 or so Americans have turned off the emission reduction / anti-idling systems on their trucks because a rumor spread around the internet that it was a liberal conspiracy to sap horsepower and make trucks die quicker. Had they done any research or critical thinking they'd no that anti-idling makes your car run long and reduces wear on the engine, which is why almost all cop cars have them since they have to run all the time. But people are really that into their good vs evil, religion based on politics shit that they assume that if something sound "green" it must be a conspiracy.
>No one is banning meat you conspiracy morons. No one is making you eat bugs.
Wrong.
>The most people are proposing is taxes on agricultural goods that reflect the externalities they produce.
This is how it starts. Eventually they will have meat tied to carbon credit quotas on your Green Pass social credit score. If you're a bad goy you have meat rations. I know where this is going.
>Realize the Cucker is an elite too
No one gives a frick about Tucker your talking points are gay.
>It's not a conservative position to fight this shit,. it's "I want someone else to pay for my shit."
Like the plebs paid for the bank bailout in 2008? Like the plebs just paid for the mass extortion of the middle class during covid? This gaslighting will NEVER work. You are a woeful homosexual of the highest order.
Damn, reading their own publications and listening to their own words out of their own mouths had me concerned for a while there. I'm so glad you cleared up the fact that they're actually saying something completely different from what they're saying. I'm sure it's a complete coincidence that what you're hearing is also something that you'd like to hear more than what they're actually saying. You sound very intelligent.
>2022
believing >scientists
HAHA SORRY JUST NOT GONNA EAT THE BUGS!!
I WILL NOT GET VAXXD EITHER
Based, neither shall I. Would rather die than live in that horrible way they envision for us.
Finally, I can drink wiener milk without being gay
Yeah because what the world needs is more calories. lol
hmm