By not doing them. They are pretty junk and only "le tough guys" do them. Cable pulls are better for hypertrophy, growth, strength and mind muscle connection
At any meaningful weight, this just ends up making me out of breath before I get anywhere close to failure. I guess I could do big singles, but there are better ways to hit back.
Cheat reps. Rows are pretty forgiving without proper form. Mix in a one or two repper that is above what you can do priperly and cheat with your hamstrings. Ride the negative down, resisting as much as you can.
This. Something like woolam rows. I'm checking my strict rows periodically and they're increasing more from cheat rows than they were increasing from, well, strict rows. Deadlift improved too.
>Woolam
Havent heard about that guy in a while, does he even still compete? I saw a video of him doing "deadrows" a while back and thought it was a neat concept
Hard to argue with a man who rows almost 5pl8 even with longass orangutan arms
I just feel like it hits my lats better and I'd say it's easier to cheat and squeeze out a couple of extra reps. Also, I have long chimp arms and my shoulder joints don't feel good with a normal grip for whatever reason.
Right is me now and lift is when I would do bb rows so I think I'ma start doing them again
I've done reverse grip as well but then I heard ppl tearing their biceps so I was like nope. Might come back to them, but do you think underhanded row and reg pull ups will work my traps fine?
i have a home gym so i just do pull ups + barbell rows for back
i dunno if i its because i am a manlet but im pretty much build for them, i row as much weight as i bench (205x10 recently)
proper rows filter people with a weak lower back/hamstrings but i can see why people wouldnt do them since there are better machine alternatives, i still believe they are great for strength and still give you a juicy back, specially if you switch your grip from time to time
Unironically cheat reps. Or you could just do chest supported rows like everyone else. Can't cheat that exercise no matter how hard you try, so you will see progress no matter what.
my humble opinion on this is. do barbell rows to build the stablizer muscles and exhaust yourself on whatever your favorite hammer strength row is. you can also really squeeze too
so like 3 x 8-15 or heavy pendlay style. combo it but eventually youre on the hammer for slower more controlled reps to really squeeze and stuff.
Not argument but it's likely because the people who advocate for them (steroid users) are made moronic by the steroids they use. There is a growing scientific consensus that steroids cause permanent brain damage and make users dumber.
barbell rows are the best lift in the gym, being able to rep someones squat on rows is a beautiful feeling. The real reason they are incredible is they are a sub for deadlift because they hinge
>how do I get this mf to progress?
u don't, it will grow lower lats if u're strict enough and ur traps but limiting factor will always be bicep tendon which will for certain get aggravated - all that weight and momentum MUST go through bicep tendon
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it's just yet another example of abnormally heavy stick movement that is utter fricking garbage and should never be done >what's wrong with barbell?
ur hands are shackled to that fricking stick >how else are ye gunna row?
unilaterally and just for warmup
these are absolute rubbish. they do nothing. the arms cant get far enough back no matter how autistically you stand there putting pressure on your lower back. dumbbell and cable are rows far superior, unless you wanna feel good about doing a "real" lift
t. Dyel
I weigh 260 lbs lean natty (6'6" so it's not unachievable) and heavy barbell rows are one of my staple exercises. Keep doing your soience based workouts while I mog you with my ripped 19" arms you dyel homosexual
t. Dyel
I weigh 260 lbs lean natty (6'6" so it's not unachievable) and heavy barbell rows are one of my staple exercises. Keep doing your soience based workouts while I mog you with my ripped 19" arms you dyel homosexual
Im 9 feet tall, have 2(two) 6 inch penises, and weigh 600lbs lean. I have no opinion on barbell rows at all. Good day gents.
The ROM is less, there's no axial loading on your spine.
Is that a good or a bad thing? Depends. Why are you doing the rows?
To look nice while another dude bends you over, or to build general strength?
Barbell rows bros I have a question for you. For some time now I get a painful pinch in my left arm, on the spot where my pecs connect to my arms, so I stopped doing barbell rows. Same thing with machine rows. I was tired of dumbbell rows so I tried barbell rows again, this time without flaring my elbows and using a narrow grip. I didn't have any problems this time. Anybody knows what's up with that? Any advice is appreciated
The row is with you people. Any other idea spergs me out a bit too quickly.
It's not a personal "white knight protecting women" thing. It's just what I think about this and I get tired of being treated like some braindead coomer who's incapable of thinking beyond women.
Schizoposting but FFS. This can never actually work.
a very rare post where I am genuinely incapable of discerning what the frick is going on, I have years of experience parsing actual schizo posts and intimate knowledge of /x/ lore
By not doing them. They are pretty junk and only "le tough guys" do them. Cable pulls are better for hypertrophy, growth, strength and mind muscle connection
man shut up homosexual
>Shut up man. I don't want to hear about how to efficiently exercise. I want to lift big stuff like Ronnie Coleman and Sam sulek
>t. homosexual zoomer on SARMS
>Cable pulls
Which cable pulls? I cable row the whole stack (102kg) for 12 reps and my lats are still pathetic.
No one who looks strong does cable pulls.
Pencilneck detected.
Opinion rejected.
>Cable pulls are better for hypertrophy, growth, strength and mind muscle connection
wanna know how I know you're a dyel?
Filtered
bench and pull ups, add weight to the rows
At any meaningful weight, this just ends up making me out of breath before I get anywhere close to failure. I guess I could do big singles, but there are better ways to hit back.
Cheat reps. Rows are pretty forgiving without proper form. Mix in a one or two repper that is above what you can do priperly and cheat with your hamstrings. Ride the negative down, resisting as much as you can.
This. Something like woolam rows. I'm checking my strict rows periodically and they're increasing more from cheat rows than they were increasing from, well, strict rows. Deadlift improved too.
>Woolam
Havent heard about that guy in a while, does he even still compete? I saw a video of him doing "deadrows" a while back and thought it was a neat concept
Hard to argue with a man who rows almost 5pl8 even with longass orangutan arms
Do seal rows instead. If you're not a grip autist use straps so your back actually fails before your grip does
>does nothing
>Actually does everything
emg and all pro body builders disagree with you
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>shitness youtuber
>we picked a woman because they're underrepresented (because women don't lift)
Not watching your garbage video lol
RDL is the most important contributor to barbell rows.
You put more weights on the bar and lift it, wild concept, I know.
Do one hard set a week, add 5lbs, rinse and repeat
that crap will only snap your back
do chest supported dumbbell rows
>tfw I can almost 3x8 row the local powershitter's deadlift
>with a supinated grip
Nice 10 minute rests between 3pl8s DLs gayet
supinated grip is the easier grip, do not even @ at me
Yeah I agree with that, but it also feels safer
nice 3pl8 spastic bar frick shrug
nice one mate at least I don't hog the equipment for hours because I need to take a nap between sets
Why do you prefer a supinated grip anon? Do traps get hit well and do you think standard pull ups can fix supinated rows?
Oh shit I didn't even fricking realize that
I just feel like it hits my lats better and I'd say it's easier to cheat and squeeze out a couple of extra reps. Also, I have long chimp arms and my shoulder joints don't feel good with a normal grip for whatever reason.
Ah I have long arms too. This is me
I've done reverse grip as well but then I heard ppl tearing their biceps so I was like nope. Might come back to them, but do you think underhanded row and reg pull ups will work my traps fine?
i have a home gym so i just do pull ups + barbell rows for back
i dunno if i its because i am a manlet but im pretty much build for them, i row as much weight as i bench (205x10 recently)
proper rows filter people with a weak lower back/hamstrings but i can see why people wouldnt do them since there are better machine alternatives, i still believe they are great for strength and still give you a juicy back, specially if you switch your grip from time to time
Post back.
turns out i dont have a lot of pictures of my back, sorry for the quality
its not much but its honest work
damn, bro. I could tit-frick your rhomboids. Solid and thicc back. Good work!
that gif is fricking funny as shit
Saved
:^)
Right is me now and lift is when I would do bb rows so I think I'ma start doing them again
Frick me dude autism left is me now right is me when I'd do bb row
Bro over here busy melanoma-maxing...
In all seriousness, get that checked asap, that shit getting darker is not good news
It's the lighting you autist, the brightness of the pictures are different, look at his fricking hair
Historically: Stupid narcissistic abusive frickups get what's coming to them in one way or another. What's different here?
Honest. '"Fundamental nature of reality" question.
This isn't a movie or pretend time. I fundamentally think you people are idiots for this.
Unironically cheat reps. Or you could just do chest supported rows like everyone else. Can't cheat that exercise no matter how hard you try, so you will see progress no matter what.
these just frick over my left wrist so I just do t-bar instead
Go neutral grip nigguh
By putting the bar on the floor and doing Pendlays
The only real answer. Most people doing them at 45 degrees are just kidding themselves.
Pendlay is the only one that counts.
king
What's so special about pendlay rows? Wouldn't you get less of a stretch compared to bent over?
Pendlay bros rise up
By replacing them with the objectively superior weighted inverse row
I do both
Yk normal grip rows with straps feels weird and I have this urge to bend the barbell into me with my wrist
Use straps
my humble opinion on this is. do barbell rows to build the stablizer muscles and exhaust yourself on whatever your favorite hammer strength row is. you can also really squeeze too
so like 3 x 8-15 or heavy pendlay style. combo it but eventually youre on the hammer for slower more controlled reps to really squeeze and stuff.
Do krok rows for a big back
Have you tried doing barbell rows?
Are you actually doing full ROM non-explosively? That’s how you get better.
Barbell Rows are probably the single biggest fitness meme. No lift has a worse stimulus to fatigue ratio.
How come many swear by them then?
t. massive rear delts Chad
t. small rear delts cuck
Not argument but it's likely because the people who advocate for them (steroid users) are made moronic by the steroids they use. There is a growing scientific consensus that steroids cause permanent brain damage and make users dumber.
barbell rows are the best lift in the gym, being able to rep someones squat on rows is a beautiful feeling. The real reason they are incredible is they are a sub for deadlift because they hinge
Is it normal that I can bent over row more than I can bench?
No but it should be, too many Black folk walking around with strong pecs and no back
I am a beginner with like zero upper body strength and I’m doing bent over row 3x12 155 lbs but I have trouble benching 3x6 145 lbs
it's easy to cheat rows
Yeah I think I’m cheating a bit. I dropped down to 140 last week and made sure my from was much more strict and it was noticeably more difficult,
You're probably cheating the rows. Do chest-supported rows. You can't cheat those.
>how do I get this mf to progress?
u don't, it will grow lower lats if u're strict enough and ur traps but limiting factor will always be bicep tendon which will for certain get aggravated - all that weight and momentum MUST go through bicep tendon
it's just yet another example of abnormally heavy stick movement that is utter fricking garbage and should never be done
>what's wrong with barbell?
ur hands are shackled to that fricking stick
>how else are ye gunna row?
unilaterally and just for warmup
use straps
bubble row
these are absolute rubbish. they do nothing. the arms cant get far enough back no matter how autistically you stand there putting pressure on your lower back. dumbbell and cable are rows far superior, unless you wanna feel good about doing a "real" lift
t. Dyel
I weigh 260 lbs lean natty (6'6" so it's not unachievable) and heavy barbell rows are one of my staple exercises. Keep doing your soience based workouts while I mog you with my ripped 19" arms you dyel homosexual
i am 7 foot and a ripped 320lbs, you are nothing to me. An ipad looks like a postage stamp in my hands. barbell rows are shit
Im 9 feet tall, have 2(two) 6 inch penises, and weigh 600lbs lean. I have no opinion on barbell rows at all. Good day gents.
Tell me more wisdom. What else is shit and what should I replace it with?
how about you try replacing the big nob in your mouth?
with your nob? ok~~~~~~~
Rows are more natural cheated, and hit the traps harder. Only dumdums do strict
I only do what Dorian did.
I only believe what Dorian believes (about the Holocaust)
If you really love the barbell do Penddlay's.
I recommend to switch to the machine tho.
Are these just as good as Barbell row? I recently replaced it with this only because is easier to setup.
The ROM is less, there's no axial loading on your spine.
Is that a good or a bad thing? Depends. Why are you doing the rows?
To look nice while another dude bends you over, or to build general strength?
To look nice ;D
Do inverted rows on gymnastic rings and dumbbell bent over rows instead.
only if you just started lifting, since these are noob exercises
Nothing wrong with dumbbells if you have access to ones heavy enough.
Barbell rows bros I have a question for you. For some time now I get a painful pinch in my left arm, on the spot where my pecs connect to my arms, so I stopped doing barbell rows. Same thing with machine rows. I was tired of dumbbell rows so I tried barbell rows again, this time without flaring my elbows and using a narrow grip. I didn't have any problems this time. Anybody knows what's up with that? Any advice is appreciated
You didn't warm up properly or your limbs are just oddly shaped for a straight bar. Possibly both. Use dumbbells or try a curved bar instead.
The row is with you people. Any other idea spergs me out a bit too quickly.
It's not a personal "white knight protecting women" thing. It's just what I think about this and I get tired of being treated like some braindead coomer who's incapable of thinking beyond women.
Schizoposting but FFS. This can never actually work.
a very rare post where I am genuinely incapable of discerning what the frick is going on, I have years of experience parsing actual schizo posts and intimate knowledge of /x/ lore
Same. Dunno what was going on but even as her former _ I have no clue why this turned into an issue.
"Just think of her like you did before and forget about ???" What's wrong with that?
Tbh even at my worst I at least gave _ her space. This is problematic even if I mean to stay friendly.
I'm not a lab ape buttholes and am legitimate unkillable. I'll accept any consequences of this at the right time. Get that through your dense heads.
Your mind op doesn't piss me off. Your stupidity dies. Is it the end of the world and I missed the memo?
I know we're all being mind op funny here but even after taking that into account I think that your bosses made a grave mistake here.
Schizo but I sometimes wonder if I'm only one who's seriously meaning to be logical about this.
Impersonal. What the frick guys?
Do pendley rows instead
Shitty writing but even after considering all possibilities this confuses me.
Schizo ahh posts
It just needs to be toned down.
"Former casual fwb that I liked" was great regardless of what happened.
This is too much.