Caffeine to skip meals?
Is it worth it to help with OMAD?
I know too much caffeine is bad for you. I drink coffee in the morning. Will an extra 320mg pill cause adverse health effects?
Caffeine to skip meals? Is it worth it to help with OMAD? I know too much caffeine is bad for you.
I take the pill around 1 to 2pm if the time matters
Update for any curious anons.
It's 4:40pm.
I took the caffine pill at 12ish. Had my omad around 11am
I still feel energized. I'm not starving. I feel like I can make it to 8pm, go to the gym and go to bed with no issues.
So it's working. No stomach cramps or jitters
wow so interesting keep us updated
Told ya. No caffeine on an empty stomach.
>100 mg inna cuppa of coffee
>320 mg
christ dude. you might as well grab another small cup of coffee.
Caffeine is horrible insofar as it fricks up with your sleep and that people cant function in the morning without it.
If you want a healthier caffeine schedule, try skipping the morning coffee to just have coffee at 1-3 which is prime nap time where you get tired.
Well I like to drink coffee and drive to work. The warm coffee feels good in the morning. The pill isn't so bad. It's not like some caffine druggie pill. Just a thermo stimulant for weight loss
if youre worried about caffeine intake you could always switch to tea, that's what i did.
I could, I do like tea. But I really just wanted something quick and easy to take at work. The thermo pill I can take after my lunch.
I'll probably drink tea on the weekends when I don't have the pills
oh and i noticed that I never answered your true question.
If becoming a caffeine addict helps you lose weight and achieve your goals, go for it. Caffeine addiction is preferable than having too much fat reserves that makes you metabolically unhealthy.
Never let perfect be the enemy of good. Do whatever it takes to make small progress where you can, and worry about fixing small mistakes later.
As mentioned above, just dont let it mess with your sleep. Sleep is the most important habit that anyone can fix to improve their health and quality of life.
>Caffeine is horrible insofar as it fricks up with your sleep and that people cant function in the morning without it.
The solution to this is don't consume caffeine within 10 hours of bedtime or within 1.5-2 hours of waking and you get all of the benefits with none of the negatives.
OP is a moron for abusing it to dodge eating though
coffee and cigarettes is the best method tbh
>How to look 50 at 30
Ritaline is better
>cigarettes
ngmi
Xqc maxxing is where it's at
What’s the xqc method
adderall, gambling, and losing 50% net worth to a fat c**t
>losing 50% net worth to a fat c**t
no way, is it real?
No. It's just a boogeyman incels say to stop you from wanting to get married. At worst you'll pay child support. At best you'll have a loving trad wife and a gaggle of kids who look up and respect you.
The odds are also in your favor. The 50% of divorce bs statistic is filled with repeat divorces.
israelite
imagine being such a fat slob that you need pills to stop you from eating. How about just get used to eating one meal a day and it will become easier?
I'm not perfect and I'm not fat either. I'm 150lbs trying to be 130 or less. Getting to 10% bodyfat has always been my goal, I've tried just eating one meal, but I took 2 weeks off work and I'm struggling to OMAD again.
There are. You just have to go to ALDI and trader joes
you need to gain weight you complete moron. Are you a woman?
i'm trans
wise, cutting your dick off will make you lighter. For me I'd be about 10lb lighter without my dick
Post pictures of your tummy
I'm a man. I don't want to gain weight. This is my goal body.
you're delusional if you think he doesn't weigh at least 145lb
Ok. I can stop at 145lbs if i look like that at 145lbs. But im willing to drop all the way down to 130 to look like him.
He is 145 lean. You actually need the muscle first before cutting to that level. Post body to see what we're working with. You can't just be a fat moron and lose weight and expect to look like that without ~1 year of moderate lifting natty
I have the muscle. I don't want to post body though. I'm like him but with much more body fat
I don't believe you. But if you're not being delusional it's going to be hard, there's a reason not everyone walks around at 10% bodyfat. OMAD is ok but there's no reason not to stretch out your eating through the day to stave off hunger
>there's no reason not to stretch out your eating through the day to stave off hunger
The reason you're hungry is because you're constantly eating and spiking your blood sugar and insulin. So yes, there's good reason to avoid eating more than once a day.
Imagine being fat. Like homie, put the fork down. It’s not like you’re gonna starve you fat frick, lmao.
>He is 145 lean
No this wigger is 145 lean AND 6’10
FORGOT PICREL
Thiz wigger is lean you skinnyfat twinks
>im a man thats why i want to look like a little boy!
jfc
He's a professional male model, above the age of 25
moron. you just want hole not gains get off /fit and go to lookism
I want to be fit. Can't you see that even though he looks amazing he's also pretty strong. That's peak functional asthetics
by the way. i've been offered 2 modeling jobs and turned both down. have some self respect. fricking hell
Post body moron. Probably got offered a gay porn job
it was for face. im a powerfat now
Gay blowjob porn, whatever moron lose some weight mongrel
>offered 2 modeling jobs
Anybody can get offered a modeling job. Even I have been offered to model clothes. I'm not even at my peak bodyfat
If you're not an underwear model, then your "modeling" doesn't count. As only the most fit models can model underwear
poast fizeek fatty
Looks weak anon. But tops will love you.
Some of us out here just trying to femboymaxx, cardio and diet only.
Skip breakfast, your fat won't last
Bronkaid + Copenhagen wintergreen
wish there were still thin girls like this irl
just drink water dumbass
I'm also doing omad and it's really not that bad if you can ignore hunger pangs
>wake up
>coffee
>lift
>shower
>eat omad meal
>drink water rest of day
>get hungry
>chug a glass of water
>hunger pangs gone for an hour or two
>get hungry
>chug a glass of water
>hunger pangs gone for an hour or two
>repeat until bed
having a bunch of caffeine while fasting for 23 hours a day is just gonna make you feel like shit
I work so I can't eat a big meal in the morning. I can only eat my omad at work lunch or dinner time. Chugging water also makes me feel like shit
Yeah I sleep fine, even after trying the pill last week. Although I'll take a melatonin if I'm too hungry to fall asleep
What is there not to believe? I'm 150lbs, probably like 157 since it's been awhile since my last weigh in. 10% body fat is hard, but I want to at least achieve it once.
The reason I don't want to eat more often, is because I like eating. It's easier to tell myself to eat once than it is to tell myself to eat smaller portions. Especially if I allow myself to snack. Then I can eat a whole bag of chips if I don't control myself
>I work so I can't eat a big meal in the morning.
Okay? It doesn't matter when you eat it, if you're consistent (which you should be) then your body will get used to only eating at that time and fasting the other 23 hours.
>Chugging water also makes me feel like shit
not as shit as abusing stimulants with nothing in your stomach will make you feel
I love coffee but using caffeine as a crutch to get through dieting is no different than any other drug addicting using drugs as a crutch
any other drug addict*
>not as shit as abusing stimulants with nothing in your stomach will make you feel
>I love coffee but using caffeine as a crutch to get through dieting is no different than any other drug addicting using drugs as a crutch
It's only 320mg of caffeine. About 3 or so cups of coffee. I honestly don't mind using caffine as a crutch. I've tried doing it without stimulants and the lowest I got was 145, I didn't look like
but I had a good set of 4 pack abs.
So now I that I rebounded, i want to lose more weight. And I'm willing to try other methods. Caffine is pretty harmless of a stimulant. Not like i said I wanted to go on a meth diet or staple my stomach shut
yeah things like chips are completely off the table for you. Don't even think about it. Eat shit like oats where a 50g serving is like 200 cal and will keep you full for hours. Add some whey in for your protein.
>What is there not to believe?
I find it very rare that someone has the strength to get a decent amount of muscle without understanding the fundamentals of diet. You're likely a lot more DYEL than you think and cutting will make you look more skeleton like than lean twink
Even if I eat oats, I'll still go through a whole bowl and it will be 500 calories and I'll still be hungry. I know my body and mt weaknesses. It's best to OMAD and tell myself 1 meal is enough.
This is my meal for today
Eggs
Potatoes
Chicken
Protein bar for a sweet aftertaste
why would you eat such moronicly calorie dense food? Eggs and potato on a cut? Protein bar? This has to be a troll post. You're not eating 500 cal of oatmeal that would make you ill.
So that I'm full longer? Eggs and chicken are high protein, potatoes are more filling than rice. The protein bar is because I like sweets at the end of my meals.
high calories does not equal satiety. Do you think eating 1000 cal of goyslop will keep you full longer than 1000 cal of oats? Potatoes are calorie dense you should not be eating them on a cut. Eggs are not actually high protein for the calories. If you're serious about cutting you'll eat chicken breast with green veg and oats. You're not meant to feel full all the time. You're just going to have to decide if you want to feel full or be 10% bf more.
>Potatoes are calorie dense you should not be eating them on a cut.
You can't get fat on potato. Try eating nothing but potato. No fat. No sugar. No sauce. Just potato. I dare you to do that for two weeks and report back on how fat you got.
>high calories does not equal satiety. Do you think eating 1000 cal of goyslop will keep you full longer than 1000 cal of oats? Potatoes are calorie dense you should not be eating them on a cut. Eggs are not actually high protein for the calories. If you're serious about cutting you'll eat chicken breast with green veg and oats. You're not meant to feel full all the time. You're just going to have to decide if you want to feel full or be 10% bf more.
This is not exactly true.
I
certainly eat a lot of chicken breast and green leafies, but also other vegetables (like 0n!ons) lots of fruit, whole-wheat bread (no sugar or oil added).
I try to keep processed food to a minimum, and stick to a low-fat diet.
I actually enjoy what I eat a lot.
I think the OP would have an easier time if they stuck to whole foods, and tried to max protein and carb while keeping fat low.
Are eggs potatoes and chicken not whole food?
Are eggs really that bad for a cut? I'm eating around 1200-1300 cal everyday only. I was eating a lot of oats during my bulk, they're filling but lack protein.
My current day of eating goes like:
400ml of milk
Go to gym
Come back home, 5 boiled eggs
Then my last meal is pretty much 200g of chicken with 100g of rice and mixed 50-100g of veggies.
Sometimes I'll only eat 50g or no rice at all if I ate an yogurt during the day which is around 117cal.
How bad is my diet? I'm a poorgay so I can't really be picky.
All of that is always around 1200-1300 cal and 120 protein (I'm a shortking), probably not 100% accurate but I always weight my shit and do cardio everyday.
how much protein are you getting on that diet? milk has a lot of calories, probably not the best for a cut, but as long as it meets your macros it shouldn't be an issue.
Around 110-120 protein which is slightly above my daily protein goal according to MyFitnessPal.
I bulked for 4-5 months and was feeling too fat, probably wanna drop to atleast 10-12% bf this time before I bulk again, I'm still on my newbie gains phase most likely? Have been lifting for like 7 months now.
i usually switch over to almond milk when cutting. it tastes weird, but when i use it in my protein shakes it tastes better.
you want to up your protein intake when cutting, 120 seems a bit low.
that brand of protein bar is horse shit
all the flavors
I think there was one that was decent, but it's been so long since I had them I can't remember what it was
Nah not all of them. There are some bad ones, but the peanut butter one is 6/10 and I actually enjoy the salted caramel ones. I'd give them an 8/10
10% bodyfat is hard to achieve because your basal metabolic rate starts to drop as you get closer to that level of bodyfat, meaning you have to cut even further. It's also hard because your body, in a desperate bid to gain weight, starts flooding your body with ghrelin and another hormone which make you ravenously hungry
However once you've achieved 10% bf, maintaining it isn't too bad. You just have to come up with a mealplan and stick to it fastidiously, but it's far easier to do than losing weight
I always do this and I drink coffee throughout the day to boost my metabolism.
I have a very high resistance to caffeine tho, like I can drink a large cup of black coffee just before going to bed and it won't stop me from sleeping,
The frick you're talking? Just drink water and not eat, how fricking hard it is to not do something (eating)?
It's very hard. Especially when you're only eating 1200 calories a day because your base TDEE is 1900
Also water makes me bloated and feel like shit
Do you exercise??
4 to 5 times a week
Are you a girl? Or just very short
I'm 5'7
Eggs are high in fat and potatoes are starch which breaks down slower. Eating dry chicken breast and veggies with oats sounds so boring. Like I said, I like to eat. I like flavors.
So a little bit of what I enjoy makes me feel better than a lot of what I hate
Yup that's why I like OMAD makes you feel like you controlled yourself and that your not some snack devouring monster
Once I hit 10% its just about maintaining. Although I do tend to gain weight if I'm not constantly thinking about dieting
>Eggs are high in fat and potatoes are starch which breaks down slower. Eating dry chicken breast and veggies with oats sounds so boring. Like I said, I like to eat. I like flavors.
>So a little bit of what I enjoy makes me feel better than a lot of what I hate
sorry bro but you asked for advice if you don't like it why ask?
> Like I said, I like to eat. I like flavors.
Then sorry mate but you're just not going to get to 10% bodyfat. It is hard and you have to make sacrifices. You can still eat crap if you want but it has to be very infrequent. You can add flavour to your chicken and drink diet soft drinks if you want.
This is what I asked
>Will an extra 320mg pill cause adverse health effects?
I didn't ask you to fix my diet or my meal plans, or criticize me for wanting to be 130lbs. I asked if any anon had experience with caffine pills and if they had any adverse side effects. I'm still going to take the pill, I'm still going to eat my meals.
>Then sorry mate but you're just not going to get to 10% bodyfat
Then I'll get to 10% bodyfat. Doubt is a huge motivator for me.
Also I'd actually rather just be fat than be subjected to chicken and diet soda for the rest of my life. Not even my goal body picture eats chicken and diet soda all day everyday.
take your gay pills then moron. Good diet and food selection > gay little caffeine pills. Just take ephedrine if you're that much of a moron that you can't stop eating
>Good diet and food selection > gay little caffeine pills
>dry unseasoned chicken
>unbuttoned vegetables
>unsugared oats
>good food selection
Lol. I'm not a professional model. Life is about enjoyment. If you don't ultimately enjoy something, why do it?
Sounds like you need to fix your mentality more than I do. A little caffine pill won't kill me. So far only thing I can say is that I feel awake at 3pm. Don't feel any adverse side effects. Stop being a homosexual.
Then you don't deserve 10% bodyfat. Simple as. If you haven't got what it takes to achieve peak physique and you're using stimulants you're a poser. Who said anything about dry and unseasoned chicken? Why does it have to be dry and unseasoned? Why do you need sugar in your oats just add some whey. You're literally a cretin that wants both 10% bf and to eat goyslop all day. Here's my last piece of advice: get the frick off MY board (you are not henceforth banned by me). Any posting from here on out is and admission you are a moron and you should kys yourself
Bro you're weird
>Reeeee get off my board
Right, temp ban 24 hours do NOT post I will find out
It's not my aim to be 10% right now I'm bulking
Better remember it.
You've never been 10% have you
didnt realize IST had opened jannie academy. also honey and oats is fine literally just take a walk afterwards.
Post body? I have a feeling you don't even practice what you preach
You sound like every other fricking mong out there that thinks they know what 10% bf is, go back to playing vidya, it's not happening for you, gormless.
>you must eat the dry unseasoned chicken or else!
I'll get 10% bodyfat. What a loser crab you are
Who said anything about dry and unseasoned chicken? Such a fat moron excuse, eating chicken and veg for a few months is so outlandish to you that you have to make it sound worse than it is
[Laughs in marinaded tiger prawn]
Skipping meals is horrible for you lmao when will fatties learn? You're literally missing out on vital nutrients.
Not any different from restricting calories + you get all the great health benefits of fasting.
What is the best approach then? I don’t want my body to fall apart from micronutrient deficiency but I can’t stand being 23.5 bmi anymore, I look fricking disgusting. I want to be around 19
>asks for advice
>people tell him
>no... not that
>why won't anyone help me?
>micronutrient deficiency because you skipped one meal
Lmao. Fatties always think they are going to die the second they don't put goyslop in their mouth.
Dude you'll be fine. Your fat cells are made to give your body energy. You need to skip meals yo get your body to use those fat cells it's holding on to
Honestly, OMAD is pretty easy but I did IF for a long time before trying OMAD.
I actually like OMAD. Feels pretty good to have discipline all day long, and then be rewarded w a good meal at the end of the day. It's hard to overeat since you will up so quickly.
you know, if promoting obesity is acceptable healthy and 'good' then shouldnt promoting anorexia? isnt it hypocritical to say otherwise?
Health at EVERY size right?
homie said get off "MY" board
He thinks he owns this place or something
Bad idea. Caffeine on an empty stomach causes stomach pain, a large, almost manic surge of energy that lasts approximately two hours, followed by a gradual decline in your mood over the remainder of the day. Yes, it's good for cutting weight, but it's also good for making you want to self-isolate and shun people because you're too lethargic and sweaty to go outside.
Optimal use of caffeine as a weight loss supplement involves taking it AFTER you've had a meal, and preferably with plenty of water. Drink your coffee after your OMAD, and make sure to up your electrolyte intake.
Ok ill keep that in mind
This guy's been a big fan of it, check how he's doing lately.
He's also 4% bodyfat and on steroids. I doubt it was the caffine that killed him
Could well have pushed his system over the edge. You drink enough caffeine you can feel the effect it has on you and it can't be good.
the prettiest girls skip the most meals <3
You'll need the coffee when you're in that phase when your body consumes it's last reserves of glycogen from last nights OMAD meal and your hit with the midday sleepyjoes. Once your body switches to consuming Ketones, you don't need caffeine to suppress your appetite or to feel energetic as Ketones is natures caffeine and meal in one.
t. 6 month OMAD/16-8 intermittent faster
>a wild keto-schizoid appears
>"Once your body switches to consuming Ketones, you don't need caffeine to suppress your appetite or to feel energetic as Ketones is natures caffeine and meal in one."
That's your body catabolizing your muscle and giving you some last pumps of cortisol and adrenaline in a last desperate effort not to starve to death. No point you lay down and die. This is what happens when you ketards think it's getting over the hump - your body is literally in emergency starvation mode, of course it's going to give you some energy but it's in the same way meth would.
>keto haters always say you're going to eat yourself and die
>never happens
Where does this bs even come from? Tons of people have lost weight from keto. I've never seen transformations where people end up looking like holocaust victims like veganism.
Seems like you guys just want to be argumentative for the sake of arguing. If you've never done keto. Stfu.
Ephedrine is amazing at suppressing hunger for me and it doesn’t have the withdrawal horrors that come along with caffeine.
Lost 30lbs doing OMAD and drinking an energy drink in the the morning before workouts to blunt hunger while helping lifts
Usually a Bangs but whatever suits you
>Caffeine to skip meals?
>Is it worth it to help with OMAD?
I weigh 138 lbs. at 5'9", with decent muscle mass and little visible bf, and I can tell you, you can't go skipping meals like that.
The people who do fasting are almost always overweight or obese, and fasting is horrible for muscle building (or even just retention), and it kills your metabolism.
I eat 2500-3000 calories a day (all healthy food) spread out over three meals, which is supposedly way too many calories for someone at my weight, even at a high activity level, yet I'm not gaining weight (I also make sure I get 1g of protein per lb. of bw.)
Point is, stop fasting, it's moronic.
Post body?
I did before, and was ridiculed as "bone boy."
However, just now seeing
your pics, you have a great frame for putting on muscle (wide shoulders, narrow waist).
You should really try to put on some more muscle, especially your pecs (that's probably your biggest weakness).
Pecs are also fun to work, tons of exercises to choose from.
Watch these two vids to help develop your mind-muscle connection:
Those pictures are not me. That's my goal body
Post body. If you're thin that's inspiration
It's not like I want to "skip meals" I just don't have that many calories available in my cut. 1200 calories is so little. Literally 2 unseasoned meals or 1 seasoned meal. That's why I'd rather OMAD.
I lost a good amount of weight from IF and I'm just trying to lose these last 20lbs. If I lose muscle, then it would be worth it if the love handles also disappear
320mg at one time? enjoy burning a hole in your stomach
skip the feed
wake up sneed
>skip the dinner wake up thinner
Nah bruh, eat dinner, skip the rest and look your best
If you're looking to fast there's no reason not to abuse caffeine. Just don't drink coffee after noon otherwise it will affect your sleep. I do OMAD and easily drink two pots a day.
Personally I’ve never noticed a reduction in appetite from caffeine or cigarettes, intermittent fasting seems to work tho.
If you’re going to pop caffeine pills tho you might as well take an eca stack moron
been doing stims most of my adult life (not for weight loss nor adhd) and I can assure you caffeine is shit. Unless you have 0 tolerance (as in never drink coffee) it won't help you much. maybe for two or three days then tolerance kicks in to most of appetite related effects.
In reality, habit is the best hunger control method, if you stard skipping a meal, it becomes natural after a few days.
if you wanna go the drug route, ephedrine is were it starts for appetite, all the way up to stronger stimulants, but I believe ephedrine is the line, since it's not really a "fun" drug but really works on appetite, for a while, that is.
>been doing stims most of my adult life (not for weight loss
So then your advice is shit. Stop peddling drugs when you have no idea what you're talking about. Makes you sound like a junkie
I eat raw lean beef for a couple weeks and do refeeds every 3 days with raw whole milk and raw aged parmesean to lose weight
it's easier to eat less if you're nutrient-maxxing without the calories
Pretty sure caffeine will dehydrate you, which will make you hungrier. That's a pretty shitty diet plan.
Idk I've felt fine. I drink lots of water anyway
I agree that's why I decided to do it. If I'm lean in the end it's worth it
I worked 3rd shift at a gas station for 3 years so everytime I have caffeine I crave shitty gas station food. Caffeine is shit for you and highly addictive, drink water instead.
>highly addictive
Am I some kind of super mental warrior? I've never found coffee addictive or even nicotine. I was able to quit smoking cold turkey.
My mom gets headaches whenever she doesn't drink coffee for one day. I can drink coffee everyday and quit for a week with no problems