Can you still make gains on a vegan diet?

Can you still make gains on a vegan diet?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah, but its unecessary difficult. you dont kill less animals on a vegan diet, anyways

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      > you dont kill less animals on a vegan diet
      Yes, you don't contribute to the killing of animals instead

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Yes, you don't contribute to the killing of animals instead
        yes you do dipshit

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          How

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            They kill off more animals, whether you compare numbers or bio mass, to produce plant based food. Rodents, birds, insects,... A ton of animals are killed so you can have your soi milk and soi burger.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I doubt it's anywhere near as many compared to eating meat. Most vegans are also pragmatic enough to know that some animals will be killed, but we can minimise it by not using animal products.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I doubt it
                I don't care

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >feelings > facts

                Why are meat eaters like this?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                carnicucks are just larpers looking to belong to something because they're social outcasts

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                why are all vegans either fat or weak?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I stated a fact, you stated what you believed, I don't care what you believe

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Lets take a patch of arizona desert, normally devoid of life beyond a few desert dwelling species. If you add in cattle to graze on the desert foliage, the rancher will then do things such as put in water supplies, which not only will water the cattle that are using the land, but also any other animal that has enough braincells to drink from the water trough. This can lead to an increased carrying capacity for that area for natural species, causing more life. But really, fags that want to not kill animals are retarded, life is about being prosperous and spreading your genes, cattle, pigs, chickens, they are far more successful than any other animal, not because they are better, but because humans like them, and their parts, quite a bit. We should just treat them better, not refuse to use them for food but so that they are better for us when we eat them.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              But the same animals will be killed to produce the food for animals which are eaten by humans, so a vegan diet still kills less animals.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cattle ranching can be done in a lot of place withouth much need for extra food. theres already practices that tries it out. it works well. and it increase amounts of wildlife in the area.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah but 99% of meat doesn't do it this way:
                https://www.sentienceinstitute.org/us-factory-farming-estimates#:~:text=We%20estimate%20that%2099%25%20of,are%20living%20in%20factory%20farms.

                They kill off more animals, whether you compare numbers or bio mass, to produce plant based food. Rodents, birds, insects,... A ton of animals are killed so you can have your soi milk and soi burger.

                Like the others said, most meat comes from factory farms, which use a ton of crops-- which involves killing rodents, etc. Certain """carnivores""" I've seen online say that they're actually saving animals by eating only meat. ("By directly supporting the killing of animals, im actually saving them!") This would only be true if *all* of your meat was raised in open fields and grass fed, and the alternative was eating mass produced factory- made vegan food-- but 100 to 1, this is not the case.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Like the others said, most meat comes from factory farms
                Most meat eaters would agree that factory farms are bad, we're not the ones wanting to maximize the amount of brain damaged (from eating ze bugz and lacking nutrients) slaves

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                so you eat animals for nutrients said animals get from plants? .............

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                cause plants have so much b12 and vitamin k, right?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                They would if we weren't overly sanitary and cleaned our gods like we do

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                vitamin k? yeah. b12 is a bacteria we can produce. ur not getting it from animals. theyre getting it fed synthethic and thats what ur getting.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes because I ma a human (omnivore species) so I can't just eat grass and get jacked like bulls do with their 4 stomachs and shit.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Cattle have a better fuel efficiency rating than humans when eating plant matter. Its like the difference between putting diesel in a jetta and a cummins, the cummins is going to do more, but also, it is nowhere near as efficient. Humans are better with fat in our diets, which can only be sourced from animal biomass.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                10 calories of plant matter to produce 1 calorie of animal matter. Google “trophic food levels” bud.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                10 kcalories from sources human cant use, to 1 kcal of food we can use, and all the useful byproducts.
                sounds pretty descent. also dairy cows are more efficient

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Hmmm very interesting. Now Google “nikocado coinslot” and look at images to see my rebuttal.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah a cow has more stomachs than me, retard.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Yeah but 99% of meat doesn't do it this wa
                yeah but it can be done that way.... like litterally all industries improve over time, i never understood why this cant be done with cattle ranching. the only thing vegans and goverment say is to remove most of it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                But why would any company forfeit easy money-saving protocols for something that the consumer doesn't care about?

                The only reason they would change is if the consumer did indeed tell them, somehow, that what they're doing is unacceptable. By not buying meat, this is what I'm doing.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                they change all the time. look up the most modern farms and youll see theyre very different than what farms were 30 years ago

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's true that some animals are killed in the production of crops. However, you need crops for the production of meat, too.

                Eating a vegan diet minimizes the number of animals killed for your food.

                if you truly cared you'd just stop eating

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                have you ever heard of grass?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              It's true that some animals are killed in the production of crops. However, you need crops for the production of meat, too.

              Eating a vegan diet minimizes the number of animals killed for your food.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                vegan diet doesnt minimize it, by a major degree. especially if you only eat cattle meat. most meat cattle graze and have added foods in cold areas

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you need crops for the production of meat
                >what is grass
                no you don't you urbanite retard, traditional agricolture is the n1 cause of soil degradation, not even debatable.
                >Mesopotamia
                used to be a literal green paradise, fast foward to huge civs and MASSIVE agricoltures and now it's a fucking desert.
                >Egypt
                same but add sandmorons and make it worse
                >China
                same but with bugmen
                you can find modern examples and the same desertification processes everyfuckingwhere.
                in any project for rewilding or restoring spent soil you need ruminants as part of the equation.
                natural diet for cows?
                green pastures, literal seas of grass, or a silvopasture meaning a forest with a undergrowth managed by big animals that allows for grass to grow, ironically the best natural environment for most ruminants.
                cereal fed animals were a fucking mistake, everybody knows this but keep bouncing from
                "it's for the animals" and "it's for the humans", the reality is that they're all fucking profit driven cunts.
                you don't know anything about this issue, stop repeating shit you heard around in your local hipster coffee shop

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              I don't eat processed foods like that and most people don't so

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The preferred fertilizer for organic crops (especially orchards) are chicken parts not suitable for human consumption. Enjoy your almond milk.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, but It'll be significantly harder to get to your protein goal and the food you'll need to eat for that gets boring very fast, you can get a pea/rice protein mix (your best shot if you don't want onions protein) but it'll be pretty expensive

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because vegan burgers and other meat like products are just shitty marketing to try and capitalise on the healthy/vegan/environmental eating fad. Real vegans do not eat this slop. Those who just like to call themselves vegan for social media are those that eat this shit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do real vegans eat?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        cum

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        grass

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >noooooo, real actual vegans don't eat processed goyslop, that's a right-wing nazi chud incel dog whistle strawman
        Oh, what do real vegans eat?
        >*tumbleweed*

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Literally. They eat tumbleweed.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I chuckled.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Vegetables, lentils, sōy, beans legumes

        >noooooo, real actual vegans don't eat processed goyslop, that's a right-wing nazi chud incel dog whistle strawman
        Oh, what do real vegans eat?
        >*tumbleweed*

        Try thinking for yourself instead of believing all the shit on IST. I feel like you like to believe it because it reaffirms your wierd hatred for vegans. I'm not even vegan. I love dairy and meat but I'm also not a dumb cunt

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Potato, rice, beans, lentils, chickpeas, and so on. Not hard to find protein.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          B12?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Take a supplement or fortified food. I can get my B12 from store-bought almond milk.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          No because part of the gains come from the hormonal balance from eating saturated fat and cholesterol and absence of these will require roid use just to break even. Part of the vegan cult manifesto is to hyperfocus on protein as if just eating protein makes you jacked, which it doesn't. Average Hong Kong diet is at least a pound of meat a day and they're all manlet skinnyfats they're not jacked. Instead, vegans brag about lowering their hormonal precursors like cholesterol so they have literally nothing to make test out of. "Hurrrr dairy and meat raise estrogen" it raises test too you dishonest fuckers. You will ALWAYS get some estrogen with test, it's a fact of life. So, this explains why you'll always have some 140lb dyel nonlifting fuckwit that won't fuck off this board like this guy yammering on about lentils and rice+peas but then in practice they never have anything to show for it.
          >but yaddayadda is buff and vegan
          He cheats on it. People lie to suit an agenda, shocker.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        wholefoodsplantbased diet.
        alot of fruit, veggies,herbs, nuts,seeds and legumes.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know about the "realness" part, but I went vegetarian and then vegan for some time and I fucking abhorred this kind of goyslop and mimick-y foods. For me it was legumes, vegetables, and fruit. Then I quit because it was ruining my body.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >he thinks it's just beef
    KWEK i shiggy diggy

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’ll give you a non troll answer: yes.

    I grew up not eating meat but ate a tooooon of dairy. Became lactose intolerant a few years ago so had to drop dairy. Pea, rice, hemp and a LITTLE s-0-y are all fine choices.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Became lactose intolerant a few years ago so had to drop dairy.
      recent move? change in production?
      seems odd to happen but an old neighbor took a reaction to eggs after eating them every day of her life

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was truly strange, but after a couple major surgeries and taking a ton of opioids for pain my metabolism did a 180 as did my tolerance for dairy. BMR went from 2000 @ ~170lbs to about 3000 with no lifestyle changes. Was always a fat kid with a slower metabolism before that.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Also you can find 15lbs of vegan protein on ebay for $110. Cheaper than whey

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There's a good reason for that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not all protein is created equal.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you want to spend twice as much money as an omnivore and three times as much time on food (that you'll enjoy less), go for it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Do you know math

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      *laughs at you*

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    as long as you have fat on your body, then it all goes downhill, if you don't become a diabetic woman in the meantime, you could still technically make some gains still but it's retarded to even try

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's hilarious to me that the "plant-based" food world literally exists to create "food" that mimics the texture and taste of real food. It means that, despite all their virtue signaling and lame posturing, vegans really just want meat, at the end of the day.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >meat is murder and amoral. it's wrong.
      >these basedburgers look and taste just like real meat!!!!!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >amoral
        that's why eating meat is right for humans, morality is gay

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          glad you could join us tonight Stirner

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            HEGEL CAN SUCK MY FUCKING COCK

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You know most vegans like meat but just don't like the cruelty involved in making it right?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Meat eaters would be just as fucking annoying as vegans if they talked about themselves to the same degree.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes
          Soja is unironically a good source of protein as long as you avoid ultra processed forms of it like tvp

          A lot of retards online base their entire personality around how they like their steak
          Not as obnoxious as vegans though I agree

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >killing is wrong
        >taking care of you body in a biologically appropiate manner
        this is your brain on judeo-christian values

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It was created to help people become vegan rather than people already vegan.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        To transition them to eating bugs.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Bugs arnt vegan. They are living beings and vegans won't eat them. Meat cucks are the ones who eat living beings

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Plants aren't living things?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yes but they don't have brains and feelings in the same way as Asian people

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >they don't have brains
                So that means they don't die?
                >and feelings
                They literally do
                >in the same way as Asian people
                kek, that's only true for ch*nese though

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It was created to increase profit margins by selling cheaply produced plant for the same price of real meat.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          i wouldnt be surprised if they use the vegetables thats not good enough for regular food production. since theyre gonna use so many chemicals to extract the nutrients, anyways. iirc pea protein powder have some serious issues in terms of how its made, and the chemicals used. which are often just dumped out by the industry, into the enviroment

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            bro muscle milk has been busted multiple times for heavy metal toxicity. Cope

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              what? we dont even have that in my country, and the protein powders here are high quality. im sorry you live in a third world shit country

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                ESLs not welcome in this conversation

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                yeah, cause americans are too dumb. Its kinda hard to be mentally there when your college is at the level of our high school

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          actually yeah I agree with that

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes. Onions protein unironically works. Stick to shit like fresh tofu and avoid onions based meat substitutes. You also have lentils and beans and edamame for variety. Don't try to substitute meat with vegan foods - that's what doesn't work. It neither works as meat nor as its own food. Try and cook them in their own right.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    A whole foods, plant-based diet is healthy, although you'll need to supplement with certain vitamins like B12 and K to ensure adequate intake. Fortified nutritional yeast is a good way to bolster protein intake, and you may wish to supplement with a pea protein powder. Overall, a WFPB pattern of eating is associated with an overall lower BMI. Unironically, some guy named Kemper put obese individuals on a diet of primarily white rice and they slimmed down nicely.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Beef is horrendously balanced and a terrible source of protein
    East goat, chicken and salmon

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      on the internet, you can just say anything you want

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I want to help the fitizens
        Everyone deserves a chance at making it

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >meat
    >eggs
    >milk
    >fish
    name anything vegan that even comes close to these when it comes to fueling your body for performance (you can't).

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I follow an animal-based diet, haven't eaten vegetables in over a year, but burgers from the grocery store tend to have lots of shit put in them as well. I only buy them (as with all meat) from the butcher shop. Grocery stores sell literal poison.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yes.
    Webm related

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine looking that fucking malnourished and STILL having a high enough body fat that you can see your abs while being a dyel. Incredible.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        that you can't see*

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not about fat, the ab muscles just aren't developed enough. It's like thinking you'd get massive arms from dieting.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Every molecule of protein started in stars.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Siphon stars for the max gain

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >every molecule of protein started in plants
      Why do vegans openly deny basic high school tier biology to push their lifestyle?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Why do vegans openly deny basic high school tier biology to push their lifestyle?
        how is that wrong? All nitrogen in every muscle tissue started first in a plant.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Every molecule of protein started in stars.

      Both wrong. Plants do synthesise amino acids and use them to build plant protein, but when an animal wants to build animal protein it has to break down the plant protein into amino acids first (during digestion) and then use them reassemble protein molecules. Therefore, animal protein has a different ratio of amino acids than plant protein and that is the crucial point.
      And no, complex molecules like amino acids or proteins are not formed in stars. They wouldn't even be stable at that temperature.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Therefore, animal protein has a different ratio of amino acids than plant protein and that is the crucial point.
        But how is that important? When a human eats a plant(or animal) it will likewise be broken down into it's constituent ammino acids, only a few of which are responsible for the growth of muscle tissue. Sure, it's nice to know 100% of the protein found in a steak has a "complete" amino acid profile, but it's not necessary as some suggest. The body will use the amino acids it needs or store/pee out the ones it doesn't need at the time.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's important because you end up having to little of certain amino acids like leucine for optimal muscle protein synthesis, even if you combine different plants. And if you don't combine different sources and your only protein source is grains for example there will be a deficiency of certain amino acids.
          There are also other problems with plant protein like the lower availability due to fibre and the lack of associated animal nutrients like creatin, b12, heme-iron, EPA and DHA...

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >heme-iron
            You act like this is a good thing. It's not.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            DUDE.. heme-iron is not a good thing. b12 is produced from eating rawfoods. both for animals and humans. its a bacteria made in the gut. animals are given b12 and iodine in theyre "food".
            "experts" even say this synthethic version of b12 is better because it has a better absorbption rate.

            leucine ratios in animal protein are high, yes. but its not needed. if you want explosive muscle growth, its good. however the quality of it in animal produce isnt good. its second tier recycled after all. the very same amino came from plants.

            nobody has ever died from protein deficiancy. it doesnt exist. the anabolic effect from hormones in meat have ppl thinking its the "norm" ,or that its "optimal" . its not.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >b12 is produced from eating rawfoods.
              You're not gonna get enough b12 eating raw plants or mushrooms, no matter how dirty they are. Cows only have it because the prokaryotes in their gut can synthesise it. Some primates eat their own feces to absorb the b12, maybe try doing that.
              >nobody has ever died from protein deficiancy.
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kwashiorkor

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >nobody has ever died from protein deficiancy. it doesnt exist
              it litterally does, and all research on elderly clearly states that the lack of protein cause major issues, and affect their life quality and lifespan.
              Also kids who dont get enough ends up stunting their growth, both physically and mentally

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Protein deficiency is impossible on a diet of natural foods

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ALL amino acids come from plants.
        animal protein is not useabe by humans. we need human protein. so we break down the animal protein into amino acids, then use them to make human protein.

        hormones in meat or animal products have a catabolic effect. its hormones in animal tissue just as there is hormones in your muscles. these stimulate you. especially the adrenalin.

        you think thats good shit and "suPeRioR amino acid profile" in animal products, but its shitty overstimulating that downregulates your own endocrine system and its very ability to produce its own hormones.

        those muscle formed from shitty second grade recycled aminos break down within weeks/months. sure you'll be big faster, but it wont last. and you get diabetes, clogged arteries and impotency down the line with it. and huge amounts of inflammation..

        fixing your own bodys endocrine system is the real flex. its hard and requires various healthy practices, and thats why ppl fail at going vegan and just cruise on the anabolic effects of animal products instead. its pathetic tho

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >ALL amino acids come from plants.
          Yes, I even wrote that in my post. But not all protein is created in plants. Amino acids != complete protein
          >those muscle formed from shitty second grade recycled aminos break down within weeks/months.
          Source on that claim? Because I'm sure most nutritionists and fitness experts would disagree

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            no, man. ALL protein comes from amino acids. ok. thats what theyre made of. and all aminos come from plants.

            eating a rotting corpse for the nutrition its gotten from plants instead of eating plants is insanity

            >Source on that claim? Because I'm sure most nutritionists and fitness experts would disagree

            most fitness experts and nutritonists dont even know what the fuck theyre doing. meat and dairy is a multi billion dollar industry, they spread misinfo like crazy. you think the info thats easily available out there is any good?! its not. follow non-profit organizations and doctors who do induvidual research. or your just gonna end up with meat&dairy propaganda.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >no, man. ALL protein comes from amino acids. ok. thats what theyre made of. and all aminos come from plants.
              Yes i know that. The claim that all PROTEIN is created by plants is still technically wrong
              Nice source on the second point though

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >eating a rotting corpse for the nutrition its gotten from plants instead of eating plants is insanity
              failed nutrition 101. cattle can make food out of nutrients we cant digest or extractwhen we harvest corn, we cant use the stalk. the stalk gets fed to animals, and give us the nutrients from it.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              kys gay

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This entire webm is a massive cope, you can tell how much he's just trying to reassure himself. I don't think someone looking that emaciated should be lecturing people on protein. At least vegetarianism has some merit to being a good alternative diet, but veganism is completely retarded. Humans need animal protein in some form, whether that be dairy and eggs or the meat itself.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Humans need animal protein in some form, whether that be dairy and eggs or the meat itself.
        Any source for that

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Direct observation of the poor health of vegans, whether it be the premature aging, the bad mental health, the lack of muscle, needing artificial supplements just to function normally, etc. The vegan diet is moral grandstanding and an overall fad brought about by the current age of decadence we live in.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No no source. Ok

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              not the guy you replied to but:

              Vegan Diet in Young Children(google the tittles, 4 chan blocks the links)
              >However, there is no clear evidence that a vegan diet started in early childhood confers a lasting health benefit. On the other hand, a vegan diet can be potentially critical for young children with risks of inadequate supply in terms of protein quality and energy as well as long-chain fatty acids, iron, zinc, vitamin D, iodine, calcium, and particularly vitamin B12. Deficiencies in these nutrients can lead to severe and sometimes irreversible developmental disorders.

              Perspective: Vegan Diets for Older Adults? A Perspective On the Potential Impact On Muscle Mass and Strength
              >We propose that a vegan diet increases the risk of an inadequate protein intake at an older age and that current strategies to improve the anabolic properties of plant-based foods are not feasible for many older adults.

              Nutrient status and growth in vegan children
              >With a small percentage of outliers, vegan children showed normal growth and were less often obese. We found limited evidence that children on a vegan diet can obtain all the examined nutrients.

              Veganism, vegetarianism, bone mineral density, and fracture risk: a systematic review and meta-analysis
              >Twenty studies including 37 134 participants met the inclusion criteria. Compared with omnivores, vegetarians and vegans had lower BMD at the femoral neck and lumbar spine and vegans also had higher fracture rates.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                [...]
                egetarian and Vegan Weaning of the Infant: How Common and How Evidence-Based? A Population-Based Survey and Narrative Review
                >The vast majority of authors agree on the fact that vegetarian and vegan weaning may cause severe nutritional deficiencies, whose detrimental effects are particularly significant in the early stages of life.
                >in half of the cases, the family pediatrician was not perceived as an appropriate guide in this delicate process.
                even doctors struggle with correcting the deficiencies

                The impact of a vegan diet on pregnancy outcomes
                >The vegan diet is associated with an increased risk for small-for-gestational-age newborns and lower birthweight.

                Vegan Diets May Cause More Fractures
                >Vegans were much more likely to sustain hip fractures (hazard ratio, 2.31) vs. meat eaters. Vegans also were at higher risks for total and other site fractures vs. meat eaters.

                Vegan diets do really poorly in research. the only benefit it has is weight management. even with that the mortality rates arent really better. plants are an essential part of a healthy diet, but veganism is taking it too far.

                Based

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So no source ok

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                put the tittle into google and press search, brainlet

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >asks for a source
                >google it bro
                Google tells me 8 year olds cutting off their penis is normal. Try again.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                youre a litteral retard

                >Vegan Diet in Young Children
                https://pubmed .ncbi .nlm .nih .gov/31991425/
                >Perspective: Vegan Diets for Older Adults? A Perspective On the Potential Impact On Muscle Mass and Strength
                https://pubmed .ncbi .nlm .nih .gov/35108354/
                >Nutrient status and growth in vegan children
                https://pubmed .ncbi .nlm .nih .gov/34130207/
                >Veganism, vegetarianism, bone mineral density, and fracture risk: a systematic review and meta-analysis
                https://pubmed .ncbi .nlm .nih .gov/30376075/
                Remove the spaces from those links. I know veganism hurts brain function but I didn't think it would make people turn into retards.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It also tells you 0 year olds cutting off part of their penis is normal.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Vegan Diet in Young Children
                https://pubmed .ncbi .nlm .nih .gov/31991425/
                >Perspective: Vegan Diets for Older Adults? A Perspective On the Potential Impact On Muscle Mass and Strength
                https://pubmed .ncbi .nlm .nih .gov/35108354/
                >Nutrient status and growth in vegan children
                https://pubmed .ncbi .nlm .nih .gov/34130207/
                >Veganism, vegetarianism, bone mineral density, and fracture risk: a systematic review and meta-analysis
                https://pubmed .ncbi .nlm .nih .gov/30376075/
                Remove the spaces from those links. I know veganism hurts brain function but I didn't think it would make people turn into retards.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >SOURCE?!
              >UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY PEER REVIEWED JOURNALS ON THAT?!

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                trust me bro

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              not the guy you replied to but:

              Vegan Diet in Young Children(google the tittles, 4 chan blocks the links)
              >However, there is no clear evidence that a vegan diet started in early childhood confers a lasting health benefit. On the other hand, a vegan diet can be potentially critical for young children with risks of inadequate supply in terms of protein quality and energy as well as long-chain fatty acids, iron, zinc, vitamin D, iodine, calcium, and particularly vitamin B12. Deficiencies in these nutrients can lead to severe and sometimes irreversible developmental disorders.

              Perspective: Vegan Diets for Older Adults? A Perspective On the Potential Impact On Muscle Mass and Strength
              >We propose that a vegan diet increases the risk of an inadequate protein intake at an older age and that current strategies to improve the anabolic properties of plant-based foods are not feasible for many older adults.

              Nutrient status and growth in vegan children
              >With a small percentage of outliers, vegan children showed normal growth and were less often obese. We found limited evidence that children on a vegan diet can obtain all the examined nutrients.

              Veganism, vegetarianism, bone mineral density, and fracture risk: a systematic review and meta-analysis
              >Twenty studies including 37 134 participants met the inclusion criteria. Compared with omnivores, vegetarians and vegans had lower BMD at the femoral neck and lumbar spine and vegans also had higher fracture rates.

              egetarian and Vegan Weaning of the Infant: How Common and How Evidence-Based? A Population-Based Survey and Narrative Review
              >The vast majority of authors agree on the fact that vegetarian and vegan weaning may cause severe nutritional deficiencies, whose detrimental effects are particularly significant in the early stages of life.
              >in half of the cases, the family pediatrician was not perceived as an appropriate guide in this delicate process.
              even doctors struggle with correcting the deficiencies

              The impact of a vegan diet on pregnancy outcomes
              >The vegan diet is associated with an increased risk for small-for-gestational-age newborns and lower birthweight.

              Vegan Diets May Cause More Fractures
              >Vegans were much more likely to sustain hip fractures (hazard ratio, 2.31) vs. meat eaters. Vegans also were at higher risks for total and other site fractures vs. meat eaters.

              Vegan diets do really poorly in research. the only benefit it has is weight management. even with that the mortality rates arent really better. plants are an essential part of a healthy diet, but veganism is taking it too far.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >be insufferable, become vegan
      >be vegan, become insufferable
      Which comes first?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The first one I think.

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >plant-based
    More like plant-cringe.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sure, and you have zero need for “synthetic meat”. The biggest single determinant of a gain is a caloric surplus.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    YOU VILL EAT ZE BEYOND BURGER

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes, and the meme pic is stupid, the beef is produced with torturing and murdering a harmless animal plus they pump it full with steroids and gmo foods.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the movement to oppose speciesism
      but anon, I'm already part of the movement to promote speciesism

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >full with steroids and gmo foods
      yeah man, people should stop pumping harry potter with steroids and gmos, 100% agree

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Clarence Kennedy is this Irish autist roider who’s probably holds an unofficial snatch WR In his weightclass. He’s monstrously strong. But he’s also a roider with acne and broken knees

    He’s not a roidchud because he’s legitimately elite

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    yeah but try wholefoodsplantbased diet. fauxmeat and basedshit filled with canola oil is extremely harmful.

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    maybe, but why would you choose to be a retarded vegan?

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you want to eat pea soup every day or pay twice as much for fake meat.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yestprry

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