Coworker who was 34 developed painless squeezing sensations in his chest and heavy arms and legs when standing, dude worked out regularly and never fu...

Coworker who was 34 developed painless squeezing sensations in his chest and heavy arms and legs when standing, dude worked out regularly and never fricked with fast food. Had a heart attack and died this past week

How does this happen to people who seem to be healthy and alright but there are fat fricks who get insanely obese on purpose and they live decades or make it to old age? The frick is going on here

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Covid vax or unknown heart condition

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      vaxxed?

      Embarrassing levels of moron

      https://i.imgur.com/Iymr9TO.png

      Coworker who was 34 developed painless squeezing sensations in his chest and heavy arms and legs when standing, dude worked out regularly and never fricked with fast food. Had a heart attack and died this past week

      How does this happen to people who seem to be healthy and alright but there are fat fricks who get insanely obese on purpose and they live decades or make it to old age? The frick is going on here

      Can't fight genetics

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No refunds pal

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        what's the gene for cancer? obesity? heart disease? literally anything but your appearance?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Everyone is playing russian roulette, some people are born with more bullets than others, others add extra bullets themselves

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            so it doesn't exist.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >gene for heart disease

          It's rarely a single gene. But there's a myriad of heart diseases with a genetic predisposition, you can google them, don't be lazy

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Absolute Black person tier moronation. You're hopeless.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This but he may have also been one of those stealth eaters. My dad says he eats only like 1 salad a day and somehow can’t lose weight but I came home to him having finished an entire pizza and a half by himself while I was gone. He’s not even as heavy as he used to be, his diet just sucks but he hides his eating habits well.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >stealth eating
        Its just called lying man

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      vaxxed?

      Unironically the vax, I had a similar reaction to my second pfizer dose, but I didn't die obviously.

      This but he may have also been one of those stealth eaters. My dad says he eats only like 1 salad a day and somehow can’t lose weight but I came home to him having finished an entire pizza and a half by himself while I was gone. He’s not even as heavy as he used to be, his diet just sucks but he hides his eating habits well.

      As far as I know he got the vax all the way in the beginning then a single booster but stopped after that because he didn't think it mattered so it has been years, is that sort of thing real?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Well it's been two years since my injury and my heart still feels funny, so it could be real.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        scar tissue on the heartb is a ticking time bomb. especially if he got the Vax and still worked out lol

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So people should get the vax and become couch potatoes lol, do you listen to yourself?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >So people should get the vax and become couch potatoes lol, do you listen to yourself?
            Healthy young people should never under any circumstance let themselves be injected with lipid nano vector synthetic mRNA juice in response to what for them would most likely amount to little more than a common cold if even that.

            In the unfortunate case that they already have and developed heart disease and scarring of the heart as a result.. well they should probably consult a medical specialist on appropriate lifestyle adjustments.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            heart tissue doesn't heal, it just scars over

            people with myocarditis are literally told not to let their heart rate get above a certain level, yes

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >is that sort of thing real?
        Don't you read any newspapers, ever?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Go on, please, try to educate anon on just how harmful the vaccines have been proven to be using the fricking newspaper and normal media outlets

          Being this ignorant is how everything falls apart

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        CVD's, auto immune diseases and cancer rate is way up since covid
        and that in people who aren't usually a risk

        do with this information what you want

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He suffered scarring on the heart back then, but didn't notice it due to youth/general vigor. It finally caught up with him. It was probably some freak event to, and the fact he had a weakened heart did him in. If he didn't have a vaxx heart, whatever issue it was would have been very survivable.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Boy if that were true we would be seeing way more deaths easily attributed to such a thing besides small clickbait articles with wishy washy science

          But nah you guys are probably right

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >wishy washy science
            kek, how were the jabs tested before mass rollout?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >he took the vax

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Contracting COVID even asymptomatically has the same (actually, worse) potential effects on the heart. And everyone has contracted it already.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        This. The companies told me so.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The medical reports even before the vax told you so. You all are independent thinkers challenging authority though

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    vaxxed?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Of course he was. Lmao, and they will still deny it

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically the vax, I had a similar reaction to my second pfizer dose, but I didn't die obviously.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Tick tick

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It wasn't the safe and effective injection so stop saying that.
    It was caused by climate change

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't know why but those who got vaccinated are more susceptible to climate change

      I think its mental shit, i was similar and got full artery scans and stress tests ekg etc and it was all perfect but my heart still feels weird

      Unless the vax damage these polcels talk about doesnt show up on tests

      only shows up with MRI scans

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Or maybe it was his sleeping position

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 32 and have been praying for this to happen to me for years because I am too afraid to commit suicide. Maybe I will soon be as lucky as your coworker got to be. God this would be amazing to happen to me. Just going about your business then getting to spend some minutes realizing you're getting to die and experiencing the incalculable joy of that, and then boom dead. My dream.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I wish I could take your years left for you bro, I love living so fricking much that literally the only thing that scares me EVER is my impending death no matter what I do

      What a fricking b***h you are

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        hopefully your impending death will come very soon and you get some time while experiencing it to feel the sheer terror of it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Y-youre a b***h because you seek a swift death. I-I-I'm an epic chad because I'm in constant fear of mine!!!

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Do it, pussy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      just pay me to come and wack you unexpectedly.
      30k would do. Do you have that much?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Same life ends at 26 anyway

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bro just eat more eggs and red meat and you’ll be there soon enough

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It could just be his fate and it was his turn, life can be unfair at times... I think about this when kids get cancer, what did they do to deserve that?

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'd guess congenital heart condition plus lots of caffeine. My dad had a coworker who died in his late 20s because he drank 3 monsters a day and it turned out he was born with a shitty heart. Dude could have lived into his 70s but because he crushed caffeine like crazy he died young

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Love how many people blame crazy shit like hidden eating, vaccinations, CAFFEINE lmao!

    You morons are a laugh a minute, stay fat.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      And I love how these crazy weirdos JUMP at EVERY opportunity to blame the SAFE and EFFECTIVE injection that has been scientifically PROVEN not to cause climate change within the heart

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >I completely forgot about genetics haha my bad
    yeah some people are just born with a shitty heart. my mom's long-term boyfriend who died at 43 had a dad who has a shitty heart, and he had one too. he ran marathons and stuff. actually the marathon running sped up his death because he didn't get his heart checked before, and it accellerated his heart failure. if he had gone to a doctor they would have told him not to do that intense stuff and he maybe could have lived longer, who knows. He got diagnosed and the doctor said he had 5 years max left to live. He got a pacemaker and all that shit, and he got really fricked up over it, like really depressed. I would be too. then like 4 months later he died in his sleep, gurgling and making weird noises. I just thought he was having a nightmare.

    It's actually what got me to wake up and get in shape, stop drinking, and eat better. Thankfully my moron actual father who drank and smoked his whole life is still alive at 70, maybe fate will forgive me for getting wasted and eating too much cheese in my younger years

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >my mom’s long term boyfriend
      Well nature has a way to sort out gays I guess?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My father had heart issues but he also lived like a fricking butthole most of his life smoking multiple packs a day eating his way to almost 400lbs after his divorce. He has a pacemaker has had multiple heart attacks. After the last one he got his shit in order and quit smoking cleaned his diet up only eats exactly how his doctors have instructed him to eat. He’s under 200lbs these days. I worry about him having lessened his potential lifespan. My grandfather died at like 82, he had lung issues though not heart related had to be on oxygen and was too stubborn to use it, ended up continuing to smoke like 2 weeks after he was hospitalized and died.

      What I’m asking you, how likely is it to be genetic? I realize on paper this sounds more like stupid shitty selfish decisions. But I have bad health anxiety and I fear I will have the same future. I’m trying to get it together. After my fathers heart attack I got my shit in order, got super healthy super fit my doctor couldn’t believe the changes I made. But 10 years later I’m out of shape again and horribly scared, even more scared than I was back then so I’m getting healthy again. But then I read shit like OPs story and it terrifies me. What if this is genetic? What if I become my best self super healthy and then at age 40 I have a widow maker? Maybe I’m depressed, but it feels like life and existence is a cruel joke. It’s so short. We can go at any moment. We have to watch the people we live and care for pass away, just to gradually but seemingly quickly follow the same fate.
      >if it was forever it wouldn’t be as meaningful.
      I disagree with this, heavily. If I had unlimited time, I feel I could do way more with life and make a bigger impact and things would be way more meaningful to me. I could remember all the stuff I’ve done forever and be with the people I love forever. I hope I get reincarnated after I’ve died.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    "Among 2765 articles obtained by our search strategy, four studies fulfilled the inclusion criteria for a total of 20,875,843 patients (mean age 56.1 years, 59.1% males). Of them, 1,244,604 had COVID-19 infection. Over a mean follow-up of 8.5 months, among COVID-19 recovered patients AMI occurred in 3.5 cases per 1.000 individuals compared to 2.02 cases per 1.000 individuals in the control cohort, defined as those who did not experience COVID-19 infection in the same period). COVID-19 patients showed an increased risk of incident AMI (HR: 1.93, 95% CI: 1.65–2.26, p < 0.0001, I2 = 83.5%). Meta-regression analysis demonstrated that the risk of AMI was directly associated with age (p = 0.01) and male gender (p = 0.001), while an indirect relationship was observed when the length of follow-up was utilized as moderator (p < 0.001)."

    Turns out Covid is a damaging virus.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      uhh no around here we say vax bad, we don't consider the virus itself ever. get out of here joo science man

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this study brought to you by : Pfizer

      Dont be afraid to of the v4xxxx goyim its backed up by le heckin science xD

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >post yfw you didn’t get the vax

    God it feels good bros

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >dude worked out regularly
    This is why.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Elaborate

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's putting stress on your heart for no reason

        Why do you think body builders and athletes are so notorious for dying young?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Why do you think body builders and athletes are so notorious for dying young?
          Drugs you moron, being physically active is proven to help physical and mental health in too many positive ways compared to doing nothing

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's the risk you take when you frick with roids

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Unironically I developed that sensation after I took the second shot of the moderna vaxx, thankfully it went away after a day. Hoping I'm on the clear but I do regret getting the vaxx

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/Iymr9TO.png

      Coworker who was 34 developed painless squeezing sensations in his chest and heavy arms and legs when standing, dude worked out regularly and never fricked with fast food. Had a heart attack and died this past week

      How does this happen to people who seem to be healthy and alright but there are fat fricks who get insanely obese on purpose and they live decades or make it to old age? The frick is going on here

      I got this dull pain on the left side of my chest. It started right before I developed cold symptoms a few weeks ago. Initially, I thought it some minor lung inflammation due to the cold and would pass after I recovered, but I sill feel this mild pain that comes and goes, no squeezing sensation, but I do feel my left arm gets a bit numb sometimes. I especially feel it when I'm sitting down or lie flat on my back. I don't feel it when I'm exercising, tho. I got one Johnson jab sometimes in 2021, no boosts.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >never fricked with fast food
    So what did he eat? Cum? Bacon? Corn syrup?

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, he was on roids. Thats it.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can be congenital.

    My brother ended up with a dissected aorta due to a malformed valve. When it initially split he had 50% odds of survival and that was only because he was in ER getting assessed when i lt fully split.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Was he a ketoschizo/carnitard?

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The vax got another one

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You falsely attribute obesity as the cause for heart disease. That's why you die young. Plant-based bias straight in your unthinking core of being.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      99% of this board are just 85 IQ poltards who are skinny fat or obese

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cocaine

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >had a tachycardia attack in October
    >tests said everything is okay
    >must have been a one-off
    >develop sleeping problems around November/December
    >regularly have heart palpitations now
    I'll get my heart checked out again soon because this shit isn't normal. Might be a mental problem though, which would be very hard to solve.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like a mental problem

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        How to even solve this shit? I literally can't stop thinking about it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I think its mental shit, i was similar and got full artery scans and stress tests ekg etc and it was all perfect but my heart still feels weird

      Unless the vax damage these polcels talk about doesnt show up on tests

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like a mental problem

      I think its mental shit, i was similar and got full artery scans and stress tests ekg etc and it was all perfect but my heart still feels weird

      Unless the vax damage these polcels talk about doesnt show up on tests

      How to even solve this shit? I literally can't stop thinking about it

      Lololol
      it is NEVER mental
      your heart beats irregularly? Thats physical. How the hell can it be mental?
      go to another doctor. Check your diet. Do whatever it takes to fix it. Dont just hope that it goes away.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You are a moron, I'm a paramedic anxiety can cause people to think that their heart is beating irregularly, which is usually caused by drugs not always tough. It happens a lot, we have been dispatched to emergencies where the person thinks they are having a "heart attack" we get there and their vitals are normal. We just give them water and wait for them to calm down. So yes a lot of times it is psychological, that said sure is a good idea to go see a doctor just in case is not.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Psychosomatic issues shouldn't actually give you a heart attack, but a panic attack, which won't just outright kill you.
          Anyhow, can you tell us some crazy paramedic stories?
          I love those.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I am not imagining the palpitations though, I do frequently get extra beats. Sometimes it's really ridiculous, and I get multiple extra beats per minute. Annoying as shit, and makes it really hard to relax and sleep.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Get some electrolyte powder and magnesium, drink more, see if it goes away.
            Number one cause for this is shitty diet/poor genes or development.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You are a moron, I'm a paramedic anxiety can cause people to think that their heart is beating irregularly, which is usually caused by drugs not always tough.
          they dont "think" its beating irregularly. It beats irregularly because of drugs. Thats physical.
          >It happens a lot, we have been dispatched to emergencies where the person thinks they are having a "heart attack" we get there and their vitals are normal.
          again not psychological. Were those people fat fricks? Were they on drugs? There mustve been reasons for them to think theyre having heart attacks. People dont just imagine it for no reason.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >were they on drugs?
            What drugs are you referring to? I take some asthma medicine and I think my heart feels weird sometimes when I take it

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >We just give them water and wait for them to calm down.
          Thank you.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Constant mental stress and anxiety irritates the vagus nerve which can make all kinds of wacky shit happen.
        However imo everyone should go to an actual cardiologist just once. A copay to get a stress ekg and echo at the least vs dying out of the blue is a pretty good ROI

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      [...]
      [...]
      Lololol
      it is NEVER mental
      your heart beats irregularly? Thats physical. How the hell can it be mental?
      go to another doctor. Check your diet. Do whatever it takes to fix it. Dont just hope that it goes away.

      Trips of truth. Tachycardia attack? What happened to you? Had one two months ago after shitty sleep and tons of stress and it went away within a day. Made a thread about it and IST told me it’s because I was dehydrated.

      My only advice is just to try to not stress and don’t lift too much after 30.. also op, how much bpm was the attack?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It was a paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia. I was doing hard interval training on a bike, not even an hour after eating a heavy meal. When starting the second to last interval, I had an extra beat at just the right time, and then my heart was stuck in an endless loop. Having a full stomach that sort of pushed upwards and gave my heart less space definitely contributed. I stopped the attack by unknowingly performing a valsalva maneuver.
        Got all tests done, ultrasound, resting and exercise ecg, blood tests, everything was fine. I even totally crushed the exercise ecg. Also, my physical performance now is better than ever before in all regards.
        Still, ever since then my sleep has been different, and I feel I'm getting more extra beats than before.

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    vaxxie vaxxie heart attacksie

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does he roon too much? Runner’s cardiomyopathy might be suspect.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Vaccine check

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Womp womp

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      holy shit the cdc propaganda popup shows even on the embedded video before I even click anything else.

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    welcome to mortality

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    thick heart wall. It's one of the biggest killers of young, healthy adults who seemingly had no problem.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chuds are still on that vaxx stuff ? Didn't get it because frick big pharma but I thought we were done with the mass extinction and shit. Even the irl people who were deep into it moved on.

    Sadly my ultra healthy dad got covid (no vaxx) and developed heart problems exactly after it.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    did he smoke?
    did he drink?
    did he sleep well?

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >millions of death from covid
    >yeah it's just fake bro it's an international conspiracy
    >some dude on IST post about a coworker
    >YOU SEE THAT'S REAL PROOF THE VAXXX IS DESIGNED BY THE ELITE TO KILL US RAISE UP PURE BLOOD
    Worse than women lmao.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >covid only kills morbidly obese 78yos with diabetes, lupus, cancer, and AIDS
      >vaccine causes 23yo world class athletes to drop dead

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        [...]

        Chuds posted the exact same stuff months before the vaccine.
        /misc/ was full of articles about healthy young guys dropping dead.
        At least the china webms were impressive and the new variants kinda concerning at the time. Now it's the same "2 more weeks" for fricking 3 years and moving goalposts.
        Believe me I love happenings and I'm currently doing an abandoned places urbex trip larping as a post apocalypse survivor but sadly this is not it.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >ok so the vaccine doesn't work and never did, ok so it was a scam and I'm a complete moron, but at least it didn't quite literally kill me
          This is where they are now. We already won. No revisionism will change that.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not sure what you won.
            Yes it was clearly a scam, pushed by big pharma and trump on the first line who gave billions for the research then spent billions to buy it.
            But when it comes to harm it's a fricking nothingburger. Even covid was more harmful.
            Since I didn't get it, all the antivaxx people I knew irl were open about it, I was able to follow their development for years but they dropped it for the next flavour of the month stuff like ukraine.
            Even /misc/ is forgetting about it and pretend they never cared that much about the vaxx. Just like they pretend the catalog wasn't full of threads about the virus mutating in our bodies and the end of the world in 2020.

            I'm actually surprised people moved the goalpost so far they "won" because the vaxx was indeed some useless stuff like anyone who's aware of big pharma's trick knew from the start.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I cared a lot more about the $14,000,000,000,000 that they printed and handed to themselves after destroying small businesses over what was a literal cold to everyone even remotely healthy.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Nta but don’t short sell what you’ve posted.
                Rich fricks who are in a position to never work another day in their life printed billions to give to themselves so they could get richer to push an experimental vaccination which was somehow on the market 6 years too early while people like us (on average) are one bad car accident away from being homeless.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chuds are still on that vaxx stuff ? Didn't get it because frick big pharma but I thought we were done with the mass extinction and shit. Even the irl people who were deep into it moved on.

      Sadly my ultra healthy dad got covid (no vaxx) and developed heart problems exactly after it.

      [...]
      Chuds posted the exact same stuff months before the vaccine.
      /misc/ was full of articles about healthy young guys dropping dead.
      At least the china webms were impressive and the new variants kinda concerning at the time. Now it's the same "2 more weeks" for fricking 3 years and moving goalposts.
      Believe me I love happenings and I'm currently doing an abandoned places urbex trip larping as a post apocalypse survivor but sadly this is not it.

      Shut the frick up already. Nobody cares anymore. Dumbass Black folk shitting up my board.

  32. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Sneed oil status?

  33. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Heart attacks happen, they always have and always will, arteries get clogged, doesn't matter if you're a gym rat or not. If you want to monitor your heart get EKG and CAC tests yearly. Also, avoid stress, inflammation, and prolonged inactivity. The healthiest and longest living people don't stress out, walk a lot, and eat a reasonable diet with moderate fat, moderate carbs, and moderate protein.

  34. 2 weeks ago
    EXTRAJUDICIAL

    Heart is not a pump

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      elaborate

  35. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    vaxx status?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      〔m a r k e d〕

  36. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No refunds vaxoids

  37. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >unable to do anything for myself
    >hate living
    >take every vax booster deliberately because i figure it will be a great way to potentially die of a heart attack
    >still nothing

  38. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Since when did fit hate exercise so fricking much?

    Just conspiracy theories and ass sitting, a whole lot of fatty apologists saying you will die when you die and being fat has nothing to do with it

    The troons have really taken over

  39. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    tl;dr

  40. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Must have been big on keto

  41. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >squeezing sensation around heart and heavy numb limbs
    >continues to wage slave
    What the frick? That is the most obvious telegraphed heart attack warning I've ever seen. All that's missing is a feeling of impending dread, which you'd probably feel anyway from your fricking ribcage feeling like it's imploding on itself.

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