I did about 3 months of creatine and it fricked my hairline beyond recognition, I feel so fricking stupid for what I did I should have listened to you guys here, makes me cry sometimes to look in the mirror and see my mistake
Not him and I know it's a LARP but creatine supplements do seem to cause inflammation in the prostate and nads. There is an increased cancer risk. It's like calcium supplements, you just need to get that type of stuff from whole foods or something more complex.
also white here using creatine for years and still have same hairline from highschool, these people are coping about getting standard male hair loss genetics.
it is a 100% synthetic drug snake oil salesmen push on people to kill them faster.
every package will say it's natural but powdered creatine is about as natural as a D vitamin supplement.
creatine is naturally made in your body from eating proper foods.
You don't need caffeine or preworkout if you're eating properly.
There’s about 500g of creating phosphate naturally in your muscles. When your muscle uses an adenosine tri-phosphate as energy it loses a phosphate and becomes adenosine di-phosphate. It can then pull a phosphate off the creative phosphate to become ATP again and can once again be used for energy.
So creative is like a battery for your muscles.
Taking 5g orally - honestly I don’t think it does anything. You naturally have a pound of it in your muscles.
in my personal experience, i feel like i can recover faster. I used to have to take a day or two off per week but now i'm fine going to the gym for 2 weeks straight and i have to force myself to take a day off. recovering faster also leads to longer workouts for me and thus more time spent lifting and thus more gains.
If I go on creatine and my hairline goes back and I decide to quit will it unJUST or stay that way? Btw I have had a NW2 since I was 18 and it's still the exact same at 25.
Man ive been telling you goys since day uno that creatine makes you bald and if youre short dont squat youll just look shorter but you dumb b***hes dont listen to wise mfers like me. Remember no woman young or old wants a short bald man and remember this most bodybuilders or gym obsessed guys have ugly girlfriends or no girlfriend
I am a vegan and a blood test said I'm low on creatine. Start taking creatine for a few months, my hair starts to thin at the top, and notice on my bed sheet a lot of hairs.
Stop taking creatine for a few months, hair grows back to normal.
Another blood test last month saying my creatine levels are low again.
>notice on my bed sheet a lot of hairs.
Kek why do balding fearmongerers always say this shit? This is not how balding works.
The roots of your hair get weaker and weaker and that hair gradually gets thinner, but the entire time it is shedding and regrowing like normal hair. Balding doesn’t mean strong hair just falls out and doesn’t regrow you tremendous fricking idiot
If anything, the hairs that fall out should be the least noticeable because they’re already extremely weak and probably colorless.
If you want to psych yourself out over nothing, at least pick the correct symptoms to be anxious over. >t. balding
Creatine intake leads to slightly higher free T and significantly higher DHT levels that hastens hair loss if you're susceptible to it.
Learn to use search, moron, it has literally taken 3 seconds to find it
isn't the DHT theory of hair loss highly speculative though?
1. Because from what I've heard, apparently, DHT reducing drugs like fin, are only ~50% effective in those who take it and,
2. Because it runs counter intuitive to the observation that hair loss is also a consequence of AGING and DHT also reduces with age. So if DHT was a significant factor you actually actually expect aging to be preventative against hair loss, but we all now from reality this isn't the case.
Everywhere fitness influencers say creatine doesn't lead to hair loss but there's plenty of people, including myself, that report loosing hair all of the sudden.
I'm 27 and since like 24 noticed a slow hair loss. But when I decided to do a creatine loading, boom, went from norwood 2 to 3. This made me hop immediately on fin, but I didn't stop creatine yet because I noticed a significant increase in strength and this shit is expensive as frick (by brazilian standards, at least), so I want to at least finish the pot and then never touch it again. Yes, a bold gamble, but I think once I stop it, the fin may regain what I've lost.
If you're not predisposed to have male pattern baldness you're pretty much ok taking it, but if you are, chances are it may accelerate the process.
I have been on and off at the gym. I'm trying to stay on gym now for good. I have had creative for years and I still have a full head of hair even women say is thicker than theirs. >t. 29
I've taken creatine for 3 years, but it's only last few weeks I've noticed some thinning hair. Hairline still good. I'm gonna quit for a few months to see if hair gets thicker again.
It does, though. Creatine evidently raises testosterone to dihydrotestosteron conversion and if you have the genetics for it, DHT will cause your hair to fall out quicker, while also making your beard and body hair grow more.
>THERE'S LITERALLY HUNDRED OF ARTICLES
yeah uh, ive learned that anecdotal advice is better. sadly articles and science papers are scams now. the goal is always to make you spend money. and not buying creatine is not spending money.
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I say let these morons miss out on free natty master race gains by ignoring creatine. Then they can continue to freak out as they bald anyways.
Imagine caring more about hair than your troony level hormones. Yes, avoid creatine if you have a feminine penis. Avoid creatine if you get nervous about setting off the lunk alarm.
Creatine is natty, it SHOULD be in men's food along with other stuff that would be good for us and keep us healthy and optimal. Its in red meat, but since the israelites want to eliminate that from our diets, we adapt.
Seethe moshe
What? I wasn't sarcastic i was arguing IN FAVOR of creatine. Fricking Reading comprehension jfc. I had trips of truth as well. It's natty master race, being natty = better person period. Creatine is good for you.
I wish I could get a true answer on this, I just received my first container of it and I took a scoop yesterday, I don't have anyone bald in my family but I'd be pissed if I ended up bald because of this shit, seriously thinking about not using it now, my hair is more important. I'm 32 so my hair is already a little thinner on the front corners then say 10 years ago but I still have alot of hair.
Not much to worry about.
There might, might, be a link between creatine and increased DHT levels, I think there was only one study about it.
Unless male pattern hair loss runs in your family you don't have to worry and even if creatine is probably no cause for concern.
I've taken it for over a year and my hairline isn't any worse than the one of my non lifting brothers.
Lifting weights and having a high protein diet ALSO increase levels of DHT, to a measurable point higher than creatine supplementation has shown to (they literally have been unable to prove creatine increases it). So if you're really concerned about going bald, creatine isn't the big concern, being healthy is ironically.
Also, this b***h is balding because she juices, not creatine lol.
Also, women past early 20s perceive bald men as more masculine when surveyed. Get over it.
Just to let you fricking know i've been taking creatine for a month now and after seeing those threads for a month i can't sleep at night rn. FUK YOU ALL
All the larger studies showed that creatine supplementation doesn't actually increase DHT so any hair loss that could potentially occur would be from BDNF growth factors causing reversible temporary hairloss.
everyone who says they "lost" hair using creatine is just in their early 20s and experiencing the same androgenic alopecia they would have experienced regardless as they aged
I did about 3 months of creatine and it fricked my hairline beyond recognition, I feel so fricking stupid for what I did I should have listened to you guys here, makes me cry sometimes to look in the mirror and see my mistake
if you aren't already on fin+min you are clowning yourself
>fin+min
Kys troony
You lose none of your male traits on those drugs. As long as your dick and pubes are fully grown you're good to go
if you lose none of your male traits from NUKING your endogenous DHT production you didn't have male traits to begin with
yes, it was all the creatine's fault
How genetically defective are you people?
Not him and I know it's a LARP but creatine supplements do seem to cause inflammation in the prostate and nads. There is an increased cancer risk. It's like calcium supplements, you just need to get that type of stuff from whole foods or something more complex.
It’s a larp people, créatine is literally the most studied bodybuilding supplement
Cousin did it for a few years. Only bald guy in the family. Great grandad has more hair than him
based fearmonger, wish more of this board was in on the meme instead of reeing like reddits trying to deboonk the bald shit
What about simple whey powder?
whey doesn't make you go bald
neither does creatine troony
whey is totally fine, although it can do some insulin spiking shit it isn't a big deal
Man being white really must suck I've been using creatine for years with no problems must be a genetic thing
also white here using creatine for years and still have same hairline from highschool, these people are coping about getting standard male hair loss genetics.
>white here using creatine for years and still have same hairline from highschool
>I’m a subhuman who is a parasitic cancer in a country that white people built
>fricking white people
Lmao homie go to the GYM you're a loser
>try to banter about white people
>get bantered back
>immediately crumble
sounds about right for a member of the lesser races
You are crying on IST because you can't keep your hair
I posted that creatine did nothing to me in this thread. please try and learn to cope with your racial insecurity.
>white people built
Good one m8.
>blacks were used as farm equipment and underpaid asians built a railroad therefore whites didn’t build the US
you are moronic
>leaving out Mexicans which make up 99% of construction crews
checked. look at all the (you)s from the seething black and brown subhumans.
Shitskin BTFO
parasites seething
you silly goose
>Man being white really must suck
Yeah.. it really sucks..
What does creatine even do? Honest question, I never see it as something essential.
basically it blasts off your hair
it is a 100% synthetic drug snake oil salesmen push on people to kill them faster.
every package will say it's natural but powdered creatine is about as natural as a D vitamin supplement.
creatine is naturally made in your body from eating proper foods.
You don't need caffeine or preworkout if you're eating properly.
There’s about 500g of creating phosphate naturally in your muscles. When your muscle uses an adenosine tri-phosphate as energy it loses a phosphate and becomes adenosine di-phosphate. It can then pull a phosphate off the creative phosphate to become ATP again and can once again be used for energy.
So creative is like a battery for your muscles.
Taking 5g orally - honestly I don’t think it does anything. You naturally have a pound of it in your muscles.
Allows more water to be in muscle which assists in recovery time and more efficient protein synthesis
in my personal experience, i feel like i can recover faster. I used to have to take a day or two off per week but now i'm fine going to the gym for 2 weeks straight and i have to force myself to take a day off. recovering faster also leads to longer workouts for me and thus more time spent lifting and thus more gains.
If I go on creatine and my hairline goes back and I decide to quit will it unJUST or stay that way? Btw I have had a NW2 since I was 18 and it's still the exact same at 25.
>check pics of myself at 8
>NW2
it might not get worse but the damage is done and it wont heal
After Stopping créatine mine didn’t grow back even a year later now. But it stopped falling out pretty much as soon as I stopped.
Ok now I'm reconsidering completely my point. Will drop this shit right away.
Man ive been telling you goys since day uno that creatine makes you bald and if youre short dont squat youll just look shorter but you dumb b***hes dont listen to wise mfers like me. Remember no woman young or old wants a short bald man and remember this most bodybuilders or gym obsessed guys have ugly girlfriends or no girlfriend
Creatine is the biggest scam in the world.
I am a vegan and a blood test said I'm low on creatine. Start taking creatine for a few months, my hair starts to thin at the top, and notice on my bed sheet a lot of hairs.
Stop taking creatine for a few months, hair grows back to normal.
Another blood test last month saying my creatine levels are low again.
Pretty sure creatine levels is why guys go bald.
>I am a vegan
Opinion discarded
Enjoy your balding.
>notice on my bed sheet a lot of hairs.
Kek why do balding fearmongerers always say this shit? This is not how balding works.
The roots of your hair get weaker and weaker and that hair gradually gets thinner, but the entire time it is shedding and regrowing like normal hair. Balding doesn’t mean strong hair just falls out and doesn’t regrow you tremendous fricking idiot
If anything, the hairs that fall out should be the least noticeable because they’re already extremely weak and probably colorless.
If you want to psych yourself out over nothing, at least pick the correct symptoms to be anxious over.
>t. balding
oh shit
There's different types of balding you dumb as a doorknob mf
Creatine intake leads to slightly higher free T and significantly higher DHT levels that hastens hair loss if you're susceptible to it.
Learn to use search, moron, it has literally taken 3 seconds to find it
isn't the DHT theory of hair loss highly speculative though?
1. Because from what I've heard, apparently, DHT reducing drugs like fin, are only ~50% effective in those who take it and,
2. Because it runs counter intuitive to the observation that hair loss is also a consequence of AGING and DHT also reduces with age. So if DHT was a significant factor you actually actually expect aging to be preventative against hair loss, but we all now from reality this isn't the case.
>i am a vegan
It’s your terrible nutrition is why you’re bald.
You're a white male
Post body now
I'm 30 and have been taking creatine daily for like five years now. Hair is fine. Don't blame creatine for your bad genetics.
I take creatine and I never really noticed my hair thinning.
My dad used to be a gym rat too and he took creatine religiously and never had hair issues. He's white.
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Anyone who had hair issues on creatine is a gay who already had failure genetics
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Everywhere fitness influencers say creatine doesn't lead to hair loss but there's plenty of people, including myself, that report loosing hair all of the sudden.
I'm 27 and since like 24 noticed a slow hair loss. But when I decided to do a creatine loading, boom, went from norwood 2 to 3. This made me hop immediately on fin, but I didn't stop creatine yet because I noticed a significant increase in strength and this shit is expensive as frick (by brazilian standards, at least), so I want to at least finish the pot and then never touch it again. Yes, a bold gamble, but I think once I stop it, the fin may regain what I've lost.
If you're not predisposed to have male pattern baldness you're pretty much ok taking it, but if you are, chances are it may accelerate the process.
Based creatine exposing your shitty genes before you trap some poor girl
keep taking creatine so you can go completely bald
I have been on and off at the gym. I'm trying to stay on gym now for good. I have had creative for years and I still have a full head of hair even women say is thicker than theirs.
>t. 29
YOU'RE A WHITE MALE
You're a white male
Dont care gains goblin israelite
I take creatine with zero problems and nothing you say will make me stop
its your cheap ass shampoo killing your hair. look up DMDM hydantoin, its in shampoo and destroys hair
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I've taken creatine for 3 years, but it's only last few weeks I've noticed some thinning hair. Hairline still good. I'm gonna quit for a few months to see if hair gets thicker again.
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Thanks, dog
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Already bald. What are the negative side affects of creatine? Is it worth taking while on a cut?
Do people really fall for the “creatine causes baldness” meme? Really? How new are you homosexuals?
It does, though. Creatine evidently raises testosterone to dihydrotestosteron conversion and if you have the genetics for it, DHT will cause your hair to fall out quicker, while also making your beard and body hair grow more.
You're a white male
THERE'S LITERALLY HUNDRED OF ARTICLES STATING CREATINE DOESNT CAUSE HAIR LOSS
THERE'S BEEN ONE (1!) REPORT SAYING THE PATIENTS HAIR FELL OFF DUE TO CREATINE
ITS LITERALLY JUST YOUR SHIT GENETICS NOT CREATINE
bro I literally started lifting and taking creatine and my hair is falling out, fr no cap
>THERE'S LITERALLY HUNDRED OF ARTICLES
yeah uh, ive learned that anecdotal advice is better. sadly articles and science papers are scams now. the goal is always to make you spend money. and not buying creatine is not spending money.
>t. creatine/finasteride manufacturer
All those articles were paid for by companies that make creatine
Checked
I say let these morons miss out on free natty master race gains by ignoring creatine. Then they can continue to freak out as they bald anyways.
Imagine caring more about hair than your troony level hormones. Yes, avoid creatine if you have a feminine penis. Avoid creatine if you get nervous about setting off the lunk alarm.
Creatine is natty, it SHOULD be in men's food along with other stuff that would be good for us and keep us healthy and optimal. Its in red meat, but since the israelites want to eliminate that from our diets, we adapt.
Seethe moshe
What? I wasn't sarcastic i was arguing IN FAVOR of creatine. Fricking Reading comprehension jfc. I had trips of truth as well. It's natty master race, being natty = better person period. Creatine is good for you.
written by Spencer Vogelberg
funded by the israeli association for strength supplements
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>It’s a larp people, créatine is literally the most studied bodybuilding supplement
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You’re a white male
Has the person who made this never seen a hairline before?
post your hairline with timestamp, creatine merchant
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>YOU’RE A WHITE MALE
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Been doing Creatine for about 6 months. No hairline damage, at all. Frick off.
>he can't see that bald spot in the back of his head so that must mean it's not there. Hat life isn't so bad, anon. You can sport your favorite team
There's no bald spot you just have shit genes.
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I wish I could get a true answer on this, I just received my first container of it and I took a scoop yesterday, I don't have anyone bald in my family but I'd be pissed if I ended up bald because of this shit, seriously thinking about not using it now, my hair is more important. I'm 32 so my hair is already a little thinner on the front corners then say 10 years ago but I still have alot of hair.
>One scoop
It's over, kiss your hairline goodbye
Not much to worry about.
There might, might, be a link between creatine and increased DHT levels, I think there was only one study about it.
Unless male pattern hair loss runs in your family you don't have to worry and even if creatine is probably no cause for concern.
I've taken it for over a year and my hairline isn't any worse than the one of my non lifting brothers.
YOU'RE A WHITE MALE
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Lifting weights and having a high protein diet ALSO increase levels of DHT, to a measurable point higher than creatine supplementation has shown to (they literally have been unable to prove creatine increases it). So if you're really concerned about going bald, creatine isn't the big concern, being healthy is ironically.
Also, this b***h is balding because she juices, not creatine lol.
Also, women past early 20s perceive bald men as more masculine when surveyed. Get over it.
Creatine is useful, because just expose your shit genetics.
you're a might whale
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You're a white male
genelets can't stop losing
Just to let you fricking know i've been taking creatine for a month now and after seeing those threads for a month i can't sleep at night rn. FUK YOU ALL
i have been on creatine for a decade now and my hair is completely fine
You're a white male
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I've been on creatine for weeks and I started with a full head of hair. As you can see, I now have more hair than ever
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you're a white male
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Honestly I am also kinda glad you posted this because it gave me a good laugh, again. I miss mid 10s IST.
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All the larger studies showed that creatine supplementation doesn't actually increase DHT so any hair loss that could potentially occur would be from BDNF growth factors causing reversible temporary hairloss.
YOU’RE [fricking] A WHITE MALE
kek haven’t seen this gayget in a long time.
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I'm already balding to the point I shave my head anyway, this thread just convinced me to order some creatine. Thanks guys
Didn't she used to have an ED? The hair loss could just be from that.
Ah 2015, where did time go?
"YOU'RE A FRICKING WHITE MALE."
Not an argument
everyone who says they "lost" hair using creatine is just in their early 20s and experiencing the same androgenic alopecia they would have experienced regardless as they aged
easy solution: just take collagen simultaneously to counter-balance the hair loss effects of creatine