>current year
>he still counts reps
if you're not taking every set near failure, you're not getting a real workout done, period
drop sets chads, where we @? slow and steady we're about to win this race just like that one fable
>current year. >he still counts reps
>every set
If I did drop sets for every set, I'd be spent half way through my workout. I save those for the end. Am I doing it wrong?
I think they're great for stuff like tricep pushdowns and curls, but I don't use them for compounds. As you said, they would be massively taxing (I prefer to do compounds at the beginning of my workout), and it is easier to track progress doing normal sets
Honestly I can sort of see the point of drop sets for all your program
Resting in a normal workout takes at least 50% of the time you spend at the gym
Drop sets allows you to severely shorten that time, at the expense of a little less gains
Legit steal of a trade, you get to use that saved time for more important stuff like studying
>Drop sets allows you to severely shorten that time, at the expense of a little less gains
>Legit steal of a trade.
Youre an absolute idiot.
They take more time because youre adding sets. They give more gains cause your doing more work.
Also, if youre trading gains for more time and think thats a good trade off youre a moron.
Drop sets should be used on the last set, to completely fail that muscle group.
If you want to save time and keep the gains take the superset pill.
>adding sets
Do they? How is it any different than the generic 3 to 5 sets every single routine does?
You're just reducing the weight by 15%~20% and eliminating rest time per set instead, are you moronic?
>Do they
Yes. Theyre done after your regular sets.
>are you moronic
Yes, isnt that obvious
but that's not how it works
drop sets starts with your rm for reps, and you go down from there
doing multiple heavy sets before kills the entire point of drop sets, you're mixing two different workouts
>he doesnt know what drop sets are
Your muscle group should already be trained to failure before you drop set. Your drop sets start immediately after the last rep of your last set.
>doing multiple heavy sets before kills the entire point of drop sets
No moron. That is the entire point of drop sets, taking it beyond failure with lighter weight. Arnold would drop set 5 times Black person. Thats another 5 working sets beyond his regular working sets.
>you're mixing two different workouts
Lmao even
Listen or dont. I dont care ya zoomy moron.
can't tell if this is bait or a serious post
drop sets are meant to be used as a standalone workout
if you're incorporating it into your regular heavy workout, it is your problem
but don't try twisting the meaning just because it isn't in agreement with your shitty meme
peak mental illness
>drop sets are meant to be used as a standalone workout
>The trancel appears and speaks moron
You need to tell Arnold he was doing them wrong all these years.
actually the correct execution of myoreps / dropsets (the concept is not that different) is doing just one set to failure and then going for a set of myoreps or a dropset, after you reach your second or third failure you're done with the exercise and from a certain point of view this whole thing is basically one huge set
combining this method with a regular volume training is basically rushing into injuries and overtraining
>bringing up Schwarzenegger in a training discussion
dyel spotted
>the trancel confronted and confused continues to speak moron.
You never went to the gym
How do I know about that?
Post body
Black person.
all I see is fat
Fricking Aussie gay.
strange looking leg
He posted his body.
Post yours mr dropset expert
You went from this
>You never went to the gym
>How do I know about that?
>Post body
To this pretty quick after anon posts body and calls you out
>you must genuinely have a few screws loose to pursue it further
>no one cares enough to try to legitimate their opinion with a random photo on a fricking imageboard
>it's just sad that people who don't know any better will be subjects to the dumbasses/grifters like you
Your lack of self awareness is alarming. Your whole grift came tumbling down and now your only recourse is to call others what you are, yourself.
Why are you here?
If its to demorilize anons you should be embarrassed.
If its to hurt anons through terrible advice you should feel moronic because your advice sounds moronic.
You have no reason to be on IST.
You dont workout so go back to your discord trancel homosexual.
lol shut up Black person ape your shits sounds all moronic
Post body
>Post body
Crickets*
This thread was dead and buried but I guess he wanted to launch a personal attack out of the blue.. lmao Trannies always cowardly come back to try get one more gotcha.. truly mentally disturbed.
>post crickets
For what purpose? Why are you concerned with the potential existence of my crickets (which I may or may not own)?
>bringing up schwarzenegger in a training discussion
>dyel spotted
Imagine saying this
Imagine believing Arnold didnt contribute the bulk of the modern era weightlifting info.
Begond homosexual
this is like saying Bruce Lee was a genius fighter who revolutionized martial arts and combat sports across the world
Arnold was an obscene grifter who spread misinfo and happened to have one in million genetics
I can't believe you people still fall for his training advice, holy fricking shit
Post body
Imagine doubling down like this and not posting your body.
>bringing up schwarzenegger in a training discussion
>dyel spotted
Post body
You don't even know what you're talking about, the first set of myoreps isn't even to failure. You can try that way using rest-pause, but myoreps is it's own thing. You have no clue about the thing you're trying to tell people about
So you come into a thread you clearly know nothing about.
Give terrible advice.
Get called out for your BS.
Call out anon whos giving good advice.
You pull the post body card.
Anon obliges.
He clearly worksout.
Anon tells you to post body.
Crickets*
So what was your master plan here? I dont get it?
you must genuinely have a few screws loose to pursue it further
no one cares enough to try to legitimate their opinion with a random photo on a fricking imageboard
it's just sad that people who don't know any better will be subjects to the dumbasses/grifters like you
>incoherent trancel screeching
Post body
>you get to use that saved time for more important stuff like studying
I would use my extra time to study the blade
(and chill in my gooncave)
Your doing it right. The purpose of a drop set is to squeeze out everything that muscle group has left. Doing them every set defeats the purpose.
No you do them for every exercise and man the frick up. If you're not literally falling down and completely staggered by the end you didn't do enough.
Do drops sets for isolation exercises.
You can do them for any excersize. Especially comounds that stall like overhead press. If youre not youre leaving gains on the table.
>I'd be spent half way through my workout
That means your workout is twice too long.
In short, don't do bro splits. Those are for roid trannies.
Do less volume on a day but up the frequency.
yes
No
You understand drop sets wrong. The main benefits is tgat you can get the same benefits by doing less. Let's say you do 6 sets of leg extensions. You can replace them with 2 sets of drop sets like OP's pic and you will get absolutely the same results as per multiple studies. So if your goal isn't powerlifting, you are just wasting your time not doing drop sets.
>near failure
One set to failure
>drop sets
Nothing but junk volume and overtraining.
post timestamped body
not taking advice from a dyel
of course you count reps that doesnt mean you dont go to failure. drop sets are moronic you're just training cardio extremely inefficiently. just wait to fully recover and then do a weight where you reach muscle failure around 6-8 reps.
Can you show a study that drop sets are inefficient. Studies show that you can do 2 dropsets reachibg failutlre 3 times like in OPs pic and that would be equivalent of doing 6 regular sets to get the same result in muscle growth. Drop sets are iseful specifically because they are super efficient and save a shit ton of time. On top of that, you get a nice cardio.
>do bench press drop set
>hospitalised for 6 weeks
You count reps to make sure you're doing more than you did last time. It's the best way to make sure that you are in fact going to failure; and also the best way to make sure you're making gains.
Whether you're doing drop sets or regular sets or rest-pause, you should be tracking your reps and weight and rest time (or lack thereof).
Rate my typical sets
Warm up set: 70% of 10RM to failure
Set 1: 90% of 10RM to failure
Set 2: 10RM
Set 3 10RM
Set 4: ~5-7RM + drop weight by about 30% then go to failure
slow eccentric explosive concentric all you need, stop reinventing the wheel
Drop sets are great for your last set(s) but I generally prefer pyramid sets (especially the pyramid down part).
Drop sets are good for building size, mediocre for getting stronger (useful for progressive overload)
I just count reps on my main sets and then don't count the dropset reps
Dropsets are based and a huge timesaver.
Warmup, then I do a set with my working weight, aiming to fail on the 7th to 10th rep.
Then three drops. I've found that a 10% decrease in weight from each previous set will keep me more-or-less in the same rep range, so the pump fantastic, and I don't need to waste time resting between sets, and studies have shown that this is practically equal to 4 regular sets, assuming that all sets are taken to failure.
Basically, a progression of 150 -> 135 -> 120 -> 110. This works great if you're using machines with a stack and pin, or a bunch of dumbbells.
Naturally this is pretty exhausting, so I wouldn't recommend that beginner lifters do this.
I don't get the point of drop sets. They seem like a waste of time.
Just pick a big weight and go to failure, then rest, then go to failure again. Repeat until your arms feel like noodles.
Find one thing wrong with this technique. Pro tip, you can't.
Theyre done after your working set. So those muscles are already taken to failure.
Say you do 3x8 shoulder press of 225.
After the last rep of the last set, you immediately drop 20 percent of the weight and rep out. Drop another 20 and rep out. Do this as many times as you want. You will get the pump of your life garanteed.
Drop sets can be used as a way to optimize your time
i.e.
>RM, lift to failure
>Drop 20%, lift to failure
>Drop 20%, lift to failure
This is supposed to be done without rest, you quickly remove some plates and start another set right away.
It is actually a way to make your routine more fun, without making it needlessly long.
Instead of spending 30min heavy lifting a single powerfat compound with long rest times, the time you saved with drop sets there can be used for another accessory or two, which means drop sets can reward you with more variety while still giving you a proper workout, all within a reasonable amount of time.
No you don't necessarily need to lift heavy for multiple sets before drop sets, the guys so adamantly forcing it in this thread are falseflagging trying to demonize drop sets.
i will try them in a few hours
yeah doing drop sets after full regular sets seems a weird suggestion
i don't want to do 10 sets of deadlifts lol
i only do them at the end on the isolations
so like on shoulders day i'll do them on lat raises
on back day i'll do them on bicep curls
not doing that shit on compounds
Junk volume.
"Drop sets"? LMFAO next your gonna tell me you "drop, sit" on dicks for a workout pffft hahahahahahahah