What a normie magnet. I only see skinny people or power shitters do it. People obsessed with "muh pr" instead of actual hypertrophy. Also dead lifts into overhead are also stupid. And needlessly dangerous too.
Deadlifts = meme
What a normie magnet. I only see skinny people or power shitters do it. People obsessed with "muh pr" instead of actual hypertrophy. Also dead lifts into overhead are also stupid. And needlessly dangerous too.
People do them because they are cool and trendy, just like people go to the gym because it's trending, hell people are take controlled substances or even worst untested bull crap just because it's cool and trendy, remember that most people don't have internal dialogue, they just do things to fit in
One day I want to try a strongman competition.
I also feel great with deadlifts+new technique and not doing low bar squats in the same session.
I don't care who you see doing what.
I do 3x5 for ass, low back, and hamstring gains.
Then do my lower body bodybuilding work after.
Been doing them since 2010
You sound like a weak gay anon.
Post body then. I also said 99%. Not 100%. I've seen some top tier body builders do them, but for the most part I see normies gravitate like crazy for them. Not peak hypertrophy training either.
Hm, I deleted the percent in the op during my edit. Point still stands though. 99% of this board doesn't even know what a proper hypertrophy training set looks like
Post your physique then Mr exercise science PhD. If youre such an expert on hypertrophy, then surely you mog everyone who can't figure out what a dumbbell is ?
LMAO I asked you first but then throw in a "no u".
> Starts thread dissing major compound lift
>Says he's a hypertrophy expert
>More knowledgeable than 99% of the board.
I don't need to post my physique because I'm not the one talking shit. I'm going to take a shot in the dark and assume your a sub 200lb newbie who has probably been lifting less than 6 months.
Aka you're a skinny homosexual and ran away. Got it
Post body, mr hypertrophy. Let's see all the muscles you've gained.
>Doesn't deny anything I said kek
Ran away ? I don't do cardio. Post your physique Mr hypertrophy. Let's see what your expert knowledge has amounted to.
>proceeds to post HIT
>70s powertroony
>roids
>grows bead to hide weak jawline
>still shows
>"There is nothing that builds the posterior chain better than the deadlift"
>"What the hell is the posterior chain?"
>"I have no idea, but will improve glutes".
>"Wouldn't 8+ reps rdls do exactly the same but better without potentially crippling you?"
>"Yes but muh numbers".
Literally this. It's always better to focus on individual parts. Some compounds are fine (for instance bench presses count as compound), but you really wanting to be isolating as much as possible to properly max out specific parts
>It's always better to focus on individual parts.
you're moronic.
LMAO moron. The more muscles you hit, the more the work gets dispersed meaning the less gains you'd make compared to isolating.
Here's a quiz for you brainless normies. What does a hypertrophy set look like? How many reps per set and how many total sets per exercise? Let's see if you can even answer this
You are a very, very, very stupid person.
That is all.
What a coping moron. Can't even formulate a real thought. Kek
>The more muscles you hit, the more the work gets dispersed meaning the less gains you'd make compared to isolating.
work harder
That's moronic lazy logic. Isolation takes more work because you are forced to do more exercises
I can, but you first because I asked first 🙂
Bitch, I asked you first pussy
You started the thread. If you were swole you wouldn't have a problem backing up your talk. Not sure why you're so hesitant other than using the child's logic of I asked you first. And you're calling me a pussy? If you don't want to post physique, then post 1rm bench max or Dumbbell 8 rep max.
>still hasn't posted body
>trying to weasel their way out of it by writing a bunch of fluff bullshit
lol
Now you have to.
He won't because he doesn't lift. Mirin btw
you caught me. I have never lifted before
RDL is a compound too
An RDL is a deadlift
Only if you just do one rep idiot.
Then what if I do more reps with a regular deadlift.?
A deadlift is a deadlift, plain and simple
Do your deadlifts
Ah - I thought you might just be an idiot making some sort of pedantic point but I can see now you are just extremely moronic. Thanks for clearing that up.
No I’m serious, everyone always says “just do RDLs instead of deadlifts” but what’s the difference
>Erm you do more reps with RDLs and focus on form
What if I do that with deadlifts though?
>No deadlifts are a dangerous exercise
Deadlifts are only dangerous if you do too much weight than you can handle, like with literally any other exercise
>it’s only a deadlift if you do one rep
And IM the moron
Are you talking about clean and press? What's wrong with clean and press?
I recently got myself up to two 45 plates on the clean and press and do 3 sets of 5. I think it's a great all around exercise that builds explosive strength in the clean as well as helps develop upper body strength in a way that is usable and practical.
Haven't had problems with injuries on the clean, I did hurt myself doing squats before so I've moved on to the clean and press, dead lifts and bench. Then I do some other stuff like using the leg press and doing tire flips to try and make up for the fact I don't squat anymore.
Less muscles hit = better for muscle growth. Powerlifting is a meme. Hypertrophy is king. Powerlifting isn't ideal for hypertrophy
Hypertrophy is good if you wanna bodybuild. Powerlifting is good if your goals are strength. Everyone has strong and weak points and maybe enjoy different training routines.
Thanks fitGPT
I realized they were a meme 10 years ago after snapping my spine. These type of injuries never heal. I still have issues and it may snap again if I'm not careful lifting something or trying to clip my toenails. I can't sit for long periods of time either, I'll end up hobbling the rest of the day.
moronic kids will keep doing it because it's a fitness trend. They see heavily roided athletes doing it who are going to be in wheelchairs in a decade like Ronnie Coleman or Rich Piana and all the others who abused their bodies and are now crippled or dead between the ages of 30-40. Truth is you do not have to risk your spine doing deadlifts to have a good physique. You don't even have to do them to be strong. I don't feel like I was any more likely to win a fight when I could pull 500lbs vs now when I might be able to get 200lbs with strict enough form. There's a whole industry building fitness machines because they're a safer way to exercise. Tell your lame gym owner to get a pitshark machine, BY FAR the best fricking way to work legs. Work back doing SLDL and back raises, both with SAFE WEIGHT. You pop those discs your done, you were warned. I just saw another 20 year old kid hobble out of the gym telling his friends something popped. It's not a joke and it's not even uncommon. OGs will try to warn you, but I was a hard headed kid too and didn't listen...
Sounds like bs honestly. What specific injury did you suffer
Most people suffer back injuries over the course of their lives. You can either have a weak back and get injured or have a strong back and have a better chance of not getting injured
I'm in my 30s and do manual labor and still have a pain free back mostly thanks to deadlifts
Have had 12+ herniated discs, probably the same 1-2 discs popping out about every year. Once they popped out the first time they just keeps shitting themselves out if I dont keep strict form doing bs like taking the trash out. Only 2-4 times has it happened while lifting. Those were the initial injuries and the minor ones likely keep happening because of them all those years ago.
There's a reason you never see older guys in the gym doing squats and deadlift. It's all younger dudes that haven't learned yet. Squat isn't that safe either, but safer than deadlift for sure. My first trip to snap city was with squats.
Okay, you went from talking about deadlifts to naming a bodybuilder who died from a heart attack and another who hurt his back from doing squats. Pretty sure most powerlifting federations have a masters division and Arnold is 70 and deadlifted AND squatted heavy. Hes doing fine. Just because you're small and weak doesn't mean you should discourage others.
It's a moronic exercise. The risk is permanent damage that fricks you for life. You're better off with other exercises because they can target the same parts while being safer too. You're a sheep
Lol so why do so many professional athletes use it? Every heard of technique? And I never said isolation exercises are bad. It's whatever someone chooses to do. Just because you're small and weak and can't lift doesn't mean you should talk shit to the big boys putting up weight. Also, you're a moron. Post physique or links socials Arnold.
>Post physique
Oh boy we got ourselves a bloatybuilder.
No, they don't make it their forefront. It's more of a powerlifting thing. It's not needed for hypertrophy and risks fricking your discs. People that play football/basketball/mma, etc. don't do this shit.
>muh planet fitness
Cope. I just don't frick with exercises that can leave you crippled
I can't speak on other sports, but Swimmers do deadlifts.
Peawiener muscles. They don't actually do anything they just look good for the birds who are obsessed with roided up Marvel heros.
And you're a coward
deadlifts helped my upper back and posture. i dont have pain from bad posture anymore like i used to. i dont even do heavy deadlifts. people laugh at my DL weight, and probably warm up with more - 225lbs 3x6 today. i will probably end up at around 315 next year and wont ever do PR or go for that one more
I don't care. Deadlifts are fun and I lift because lifting is fun.
Get over yourself kiddo
>kiddo
>I literally only see kiddos doing them
>Doesn't know they've been the cornerstone of powerlifting since the 70s.
>Only sees kids doing them because he lifts at his high school.
Post your physique b***h.
It's a normie workout, normie b***h. Lol. The only reason you do them is because your sheep brain makes you want to follow the herd instead of thinking for yourself. I bet you do sumos too lol
Lol like using a nautilus machine makes you some expert. Your planet fitness machines don't impress me. Post physique shred god.
Normies are scared shitless of deadlifts. They think they'll break their spine. Truthfully they probably would if they treat deadlift as lackadaisically as they do their other lifts
Everyone is scared of deadlifts and they should be, it's a perfectly rational fear lol. Even world champion deadlifters are scared of deadlifts.
Only weak people with little experience are "afraid" of them.
There's a curve for deadlifts where the weakest and most inexperienced are most likely to get injured, the mid-level deadlifts don't, and then the world elites are at risk again just because of the sheer amount they're attempting to lift. Everyone in their right mind is slightly nervous heading close to their orm, nobody wants to frick their shit up, especially if it's before a big competition. Of course in an actual competition or for a record they go ham.
Bruh. Only normies do them lol. But sure. You're special. You're not a sheep
So what do "non normies" do in the gym
Isolation for hypertrophy
Instead of doing meme lifts, you should focus on exercises that ideally target very little.
Really. In your worldview, normies are squatting and deadlifting heavy and it's the weirdos who are doing machines and isolation.
>Bitch. Even the strongest powerlifter is scared of them. Forgot his name
And yet he got really good at them. Don't let fear rule your life.
>In your worldview, normies are squatting and deadlifting heavy and it's the weirdos who are doing machines and isolation.
For hypertrophy, 100% the answer is yes.
>And yet he got really good at them. >Don't let fear rule your life.
meme exercise. More dangerous == more effective
Ok man. Why don't you post your physique.
Nah
That's a funny clean & ack.
i'm going to pick you up and you can't stop me
Wrong.
There is literally nothing wrong with deadlifts, and I say this as someone who currently doesn't do them (because I sacrifice my soul on wide grip deficit RDLs instead for dat hammy stretch)
If you're scared of snapping your shit then just spam back extensions, jefferson curls, dead hangs, and maybe seated good mornings as well as direct core work. Not complicated
Or I can do other exercises
Bitch. Even the strongest powerlifter is scared of them. Forgot his name
>Or I can do other exercises
Like what? I don't disagree at all actually, there are no must-do exercises. You don't *have* to do deadlifts, but you DO have to do some kind of hip hinge. Movement patterns are necessary, specific exercises are not. I just don't think deadlifts are inherently dangerous at all, just don't be a moron and you'll be alright.
>Like what?
Exercises that target pic rel
Too many to list, but you can hit them all throughout the week i.e. on leg day/back day/and arm day (forearm included)
>Exercises that target pic rel
Not a good answer
How about:
Some variant of RDL/good morning/back extension/jefferson curl (hip hinge)
Dead hangs (grip)
Rows (more upper back since aforementioned hinges aren't going to be as good for upper back development compared to deadlifts)
Throw in some sort of leg curl (seated/lying leg curl, GHR, nordic curl) cause why not
Some sort of shrug if you want more upper traps
If you aren't doing some sort of hip hinge you're missing the whole point. If you are, good on you
it is a good answer. I'm just too lazy to list the exercises
It took me like 1 minute to list them bro
Anyway as long as you're doing hip hinges you'll be getting 90% of the benefits of deadlifting regardless. If you get to 4pl8 RDLs for reps you will have a strong deadlift no matter what, simple as. Obviously it's not the most efficient way to get to a strong deadlift, but if you aren't training for that then who cares?
Wow OP is actually a homosexual isn't he
>Not a single person against deadlifts has posted body.
Gee, I wonder if anything they say has any merit whatsoever.
cope
With what? Doing a fun and useful exercise?
Yeah okay, I'll try to manage.
When people like Blaha said that powerlifting is good for you I went away from that shit.
Dumbass here, why do people talk about deadlifts being so inherently "dangerous" compared to other exercises?
Bench involves you holding a heavyass weight over your head/neck/chest, and squats can fold you like a piece of paper if you reach failure and don't have safety bars. And you can absolutely chew up your fricking joints with both those exercises if you use shitty form. What makes deadlifts any different?
Nothing. They have no clue what they're talking about.
You can get away with bad form coping with your " body structure" then that leads to snap city
Here's an example. I bench press with dumbbells. If there's ever a time where I'm fricked and can't properly get back up (for instance with decline bench presses), worst case scenario I can drop the weights to the side. Hasn't happened to me, but the option is there. I have 0 actual risk of destroying my body. There's also basically 0 risk of having bad form even when reaching failure. I won't leave myself paraplegic if I frick up. Deadlifts on the other hand can destroy your disks and leave you fricked for life. Even the pros frick up their form sometimes and all it takes is that one time to frick you for life.
>I bench press with dumbbells
>I have 0 actual risk of destroying my body.
Anon...I...
That's why you don't ego lift. Looks like his first day at the gym
Because of morons being moronic
Deadlifts are easy to overload and hurt yourself on, same can be said with benching and squatting, but with deadlifts you can pull a lot of weight with shitty form if you’re determined, which is what a lot of people do
Ever see videos of scrawny bums deadlifting 500+ pounds with their spine bent like the arch of a church? That’s why people say deadlifts are a bad exercise
It’s all because of powerlifting tards putting too much weight on the bar and hurting themselves because they can’t actually lift the weight without putting their body under a self-destructing amount of stress
But instead of people saying “wow these people are stupid and are going to severely injure themselves by doing such heavy exercises so recklessly” they say “it’s the exercise that hurt him, this specific exercise is inherently dangerous and no one should do it”
I think the biggest issue with the dead or squat for that matter is people always give advice like "You should work up to your body weight in such a such a time"
People end up early in this situation where they feel like they gotta lift more and more and they need to progress to a not a pussy weight. Then they keep going up and up and it ends up fricking them.
I've already fricked my back but if I could do it again I would but instead of only taking 6 months or so of practice before I started trying to max my liftable weight I'd take like 2-3 years of lifting like a pussy and just focusing on getting consistent form and the ability to do at least 5x10 sets.
Unless you are an athlete and need to be the best, taking years to learn it properly will be worth it.
People get their fitness advice from the internet, the internet just parrots IST memes, cue obesity epidemic, balding epidemic and nobody getting fit.