Does our food system need to change?

Does our food system need to change?

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    A single ingredient is cheaper than 5
    hmmm

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Single
      lol

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Taters and salt.

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    No you just need to learn how to dice fruit, gay.

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >local cheap potatoes fried in seed oils
    >fruit flew in on planes from exotic countries across the ocean diced in a cup with a splash of microplastics
    u realize why?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Most of that fruit is grown in California. We don't import basic shit.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Depends on the fruit tbqh

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >low quality food is cheaper than high quality food

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Maybe, I don't know.

    But that picture is dumb. Complaining about cheap, abundant, high calorie food is an insult to, you know, ALL of our ancestors.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Op sucks cock

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Don't be showing us examples of cheap healthy foods in stores.
      Poor folk can't be expected to cook for themselves.
      Food deserts, man.
      People be obese because of poverty.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Oh well I guess poor people just need to die then

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >shitty Walmart brand

      You suck poor dick

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ok then add $10 in labor and you finally have something you can eat

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Steaming broccoli is $10 of labor?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes
          They'd charge you a few dollars for a side of broccoli that's a tiny fraction of that bag at a restaurant, and they have the production scale to do it a lot more efficiently. That clearly shows the high value of labor necessary to make the broccoli edible.

          You can literally microwave that in minutes

          So now I have to spend several hundred dollars on specialized equipment just to cook some broccoli? What a joke

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >spend hundreds of dollars on specialized equipment to be able to shitpost
            >unwilling to spend a hundred bucks for specialized equipment to cook food

            The system is broken, bros!

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              I browse IST at my local library for free

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                And they don't have microwaves you can use for free? What kind of poor library are you going to?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You can literally microwave that in minutes

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >$10 in labor
        Do Americans really think like this? If it takes you 15 minutes to eat a meal do you consider that in your "Labor wages" as opposed to drinking that same meal in shake form? Is sleeping a waste of labour wages? How does the mind of an American actually work?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dude
          They tip like 20% just because some dumb whore took their food from the kitchen to their table
          Burgers are retarded

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I like the tipping system. Ot gives me the ability to withhold the money after bad service.

            If there were no tips the prices would have to go up to account for them. Imagine paying for service even if it was shit and having no choice.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          They are ZOG capital maximization golems, they won't cook because they think they could spend that time gifting surplus value to their garden gnome boss.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >hey goy steam this by not only microwaving it but also inside the bag! enjoy your nutrient devoid estrogen cocktail

      Jesus they don't even hide it these days

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Being scared of microwaves
        What is this, the fucking 70's?
        Boomer get off the internet

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It doesn’t matter. People aren’t fat because low-quality food is cheaper. They’re fat because they have no discipline.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    First, eating healthy is cheaper than fast food. Chicken, rice, oats etc are all far more bang for the buck than goyslop you paid for to wagie to cook on the spot.
    Second, don't buy chopped fruit. Bananas and oranges in bulk are far cheaper.
    Third, there's no such thing as "food system". People didn't just sit and randomly decide your faggy chopped fruit should cost $4. It's regulated by demand and supply, and fruit is always gonna be relatively expensive to produce.

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why do westerners think imported fruit is healthy or somehow more ethical than goyslop?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      vegans tell people who eat meat that they are destroying the environment but have no qualms eating avocado and sòy products daily

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is, ketotard

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Fruit is great.

      Fruit is very healthy.

      What are you talking about? What fruit isn't good for you? Fuck your mother, I'm going to spitefully eat a grapefruit now, though I'm not sure there is another way to eat a grapefruit.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't argue with him he's a keto/carnivore cultist

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Mmm, "delicious" grapefruit.

          It's okay once you get used to it, but the aftertaste is like having smoked a pack of cigars.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ngl I started eating grapefruit last week and I've already developed a taste for it.

            I am loving this spite grapefruit.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            I didn't ask

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Based fellow grapefruit enjoyer

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, there are trees growing near my work. I pick up a couple every day, it's not as hard to get into as I thought, like, your first grapefruit might scare you off entirely, but by the third one they're great. A real explosion of flavour.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You don't pick up grape fruits every day bro because they aren't in season for a very long time.

            >t. has five grapefruit trees

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Seethe harder bugman

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >goyslop
        >new
        nice jakslop

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Seethe garden gnome

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        This place is like 25% ifunny crossposters
        get with it or get out retard

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        so mad

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        well baited my good sir!

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I just eat what's in season in my state. Summer is great, winter is mostly root vegetables and canned shit

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous
  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Where the fuck are you getting a medium fry for 99c

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >99 cents for a small fry
    You living in the 2000s or something?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a small fry
      that's more than one fry

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        you’re a big fry

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Mc(you)

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You'd have to be living on the poverty line, nah, you'd have to be living on the poverty line AND have shitty saving skills to have to live off the McDonalds dollar menu everyday.
    Get a job you pinko.

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    the funny part is that the cup off veggies isn't actually healthy anyway kek

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      God no, it's usually swimming in syrup.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Veggies

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fuck is a "food system"?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The system by which we grow, sell, distribute, and buy food? Are you retarded?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        that's called capitalism

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    No. Nobody goes to McDonalds for fruit, therefore the demand is lower and the price is higher, because they have to justify having it on the menu and storage etc. Its common sense.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Demand increases cost you stupid gay

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        No it doesn't.

        Petroleum is an example of the opposite.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I don’t know what supply is
          Spastic

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay retard.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            You're charged what people are willing to/can pay. Therefore increased demand more often leads to lower prices, which directly contradicts:
            >Demand increases cost.
            You stupid gay.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Therefore increased demand more often leads to lower prices
              get a load of this retard.
              same supply, higher demand = higher price. your statement is only true in the sense that generally, when demand is high, the supply will increase until it's profitable, therefore driving down the prices, and with it also comes the benefit of large scale production that generally decreases the costs.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Demand for sex doesn't increase cost. It's still free

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's why the burgers which everyone buys are cheaper than the fruit which nobody buys right

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    but potato is vegetable

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      boil em mash em stick em in a stew

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Costs even less than the left if you make it at home.

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >99₩ for a fries
    Where!?

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    0.0€

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >grows literally the easiest thing you can grow
      >hey look at me everybody

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kek what fucking side are you on??
        You can technically get that whole cup for free (sans packaging) if you grow it

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Kek I'm just giving you a hard time because tomatoes are like the most grown thing. Everyone I know grows some tomatoes. Jokes aside though it's good I think I think everyone should grow some things.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    you need to change back to male you fucking chud

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    In a fruit cup you're paying for the labor of them cutting the fruit and put it into the container. Buy the fruit seperate and you have way more for same price, then just cut it yourself

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do you mean by eating nothing!?
      If we are not constantly full and eat the recommended nine times a day with the occasional snack then we literally starve ourselves to death.
      It's not what we eat that causes obesity, it's our metabolism.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >in a fried potato cup youre paying for the labor of them cutting the potatos and putting them in a cup

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The fries are also cut and put into a container. They had to be cooked too, while the fruit is raw.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Do people really not even remotely understand the dynamics of growing most fruits vs growing potatoes? Maybe I take for granted being around plants.

        It is nothing short of a modern miracle that most fruit costs as little as it does.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It is nothing short of a modern miracle that most fruit costs as little as it does.
          Sure if you define throwing endless amounts of taxpayer funded agricultural subsidies as a "modern miracle".

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            In my experience there are alot more subsidies for row crops than there are for orchards. Orchards are much higher risk too

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >It is nothing short of a modern miracle that most fruit costs as little as it does.
          >get rid of all the taste so it's more durable and cheaper to transport
          >get rid of all the nutrition so it's cheaper to grow
          What a miracle! I'm sure my ancestors would have given up their fruit trees if they could have gotten fruit as cheaply and conveniently as we do.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Look wise guy I'm trying to get across the point that 3.99 for the fruit cup is actually very cheap.

            Sorry for the TLDR but I think for most people (depending on what region you live in of course) there isn't a huge shortage of premium options out there if you want higher quality fruit if you are willing to pay more. With most new fruit varieties the main focus is on temperature tolerances, different chill hours etc., and pest resistance. It seems like every few years there are new diseases and pests. Now that might mean that commercial producers aren't choosing varieties that are the finest tasting but the reality is that a healthy tree of a lesser variety is still going to taste better than an unhealthy tree of a better variety.

            Peaches are one of the few fruits I gather just do not taste as good as they once did. Old timers tell me frequently that it is harder than it used to be to find a good peach (but peaches are notoriously finicky anyways I guess so it might be expected).

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Price coping is by far the cringiest fatty cope. You want to know what's even cheaper than the both of those, eating fucking nothing.

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    "Food System"
    bro what

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Now compare those fries to a sack of potatoes.

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    17p

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      17 pyблeй??? pretty cheap tho

  27. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >potato
    >cost .01 cent
    >grown locally
    >keeps for multiple months

    >exotic fruit cup
    >cost $3.50 to make
    >ingredients grown in opposite corners of the US, if in the country at all
    >ingredients spoil in 1-2 weeks

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You can also plant a sprouting potato and it self-perpetuates into more potatoes. The irish were onto something

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fast food French fries vs a cocktail of exotic fruits
    Now compare the fries with normal apples or bananas

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even apples are hard as fuck to grow compared to taters. Take something like peaches for example- they are a really finicky plant, have a short productive lifespan, require extensive spraying and pruning etc. not to mention the picking, and management of the orchard floor.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Apples are like $.50 each where I live, are they cheaper for you?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's 45p for an apple and 17p for a banana so you could have two bananas and an apple for the price of those fries

  29. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If anyone has ever grown potatos and also grows fruit it should be amazing that the fruit cup is as cheap as it is.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      this
      you lose like 50% of your fruit to random shit and the trees take years to produce fruit
      you just stick a potato in the ground and look at it and it grows like a rabid coon

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Assuming your potatoes don't get one of the million diseases associated only with potatoes, yes
        t. Person who lost many potato plants to blight this harvest season

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I've never had a problem with potatoes. Now fruit trees are a constant issue as far as disease and pests go. And even if you lose a crop of something big deal you have next year. With fruit trees if they get hit, those trees are done for and its going to be another 7 years before you get back to where you started. Most fruit trees are about 10x more finicky than something like potatoes.

  30. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >potatoes are extremely cheap to produce
    >fruits are expensive to produce and need to be imported thousands of kilometers if you live in a colder climate
    clearly this is the fault of evil capitalism

  31. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >9c

  32. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >food system

    Quit doing this and just say garden gnomes.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Does our garden gnomes need to change?
      Yeah, that makes more sense.

  33. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm so sick of people that believe fast-food restaurants should be a part of anybody's life. There's no good reason to eat anything these places produce other than sheer ignorance. It doesn't save money or time. I'll buy into the social argument if you want to go to a normal restaurant, but honestly I don't even believe those should exist. There are simply better ways to date and hang out with friends than stuffing your face and tipping some underpaid staff for not calling in sick that day. Don't even get me started on food deserts. This isn't a reason to support fast-food as an option. It's a fucking reason to build more grocery stores and hold urban planners accountable for their stupidity. The only time I eat out now is when I'm basically being forced to so I don't offend a family member that feels like it's some treat and frankly I'm done with that shit too. Sorry for the rant.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I largely agree, but there is a time and a place for fast-food. Maybe if you are on the road or in a hurry or just want some cheap fast lazy goyslop once in a blue moon.

      The problem is that people don't treat it like what it is- cheap(ish) quick standardized grease slop slapped together by minimum wagies. It has its place but people shouldnt eat it very often and certainly should not think of it as a normal part of their diet kek.

      But yeah every so often (like once every few months) I will go get some slop from McDonald's or something.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Mcdouble
      >500calories, 50g of protein
      >$2
      >>HUR WHY EAT AT MCDONALD'S

      Let me tell you how I know you're fucking smol kiddo

      Obviously, fries are horrible for you but the non-breaded meat entrees are all fine for you

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >fatty think's his bloatmaxxed, goyslop filled physique is impressive
        many such cases

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >food deserts
      Who in their right mind would live in a place where you can't buy food quickly?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I live about a half hour from a grocery store.

  34. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >One vegetable is cheaper than like 7 different fruits
    Very intriguing.

  35. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I unironiccally want poor people to be malnourished because most morons are poor and blacks are NOT human. Excuse me while I keep making it by being able to afford the finer things in life you chimp fucks

  36. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I bought some grass fed meat that was on discount today at the supermarket because it was gonna expire tomorrow.
    5.5 lbs for $26. I just froze what I didn't eat today, and that's gonna feed me lunch for at least 3-4 days.
    Makes me sick that people spend even 99c on something as nutrient poor as fried potato straws.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I've never understood what people mean by grass-fed beef. I have considerable experience with beef operations and it is my understanding (in my region at least) that almost all beef is grass-fed up until a few weeks before they go to market (where they are supplemented with a feed to fatten them up). Now I honestly don't know what happens to the yearlings when they get sold and I am aware of some big feed lot operations in the Midwest, but I am curious what is the actual difference in "grass fed" other than just it being a higher quality in general?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Grass finished is the proper term for distinction. They are never finished on grain before slaughter.
        Grass vs grain finished beef is a lot of speculation health-wise. We know that grass finished has different ratios of omega 3 and omega 6 fats and the composition is a bit different. This could be incredibly significant or not at all, there are human trials going on now as I understand it to find out the truth, but we can't say for sure if grass finished is more healthy currently with absolute certainty.
        Some obvious things about it are it tastes different and is going to be leaner than grain finished.
        I eat a lot of beef and usually just go for grain finished, but if I find a deal on grass finished then why not?

  37. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    On what fucking planet is the cup of sugar more healthy than the fucking potatoes?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The planet where fruit has more vitamins than potatoes.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      The planet where fiber is important.

  38. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Growing/harvesting/transporting potatoes and vegetable oil is WAY WAY cheaper than Growing/harvesting/transporting than the fruits in that cup.

  39. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    An entire pound of sweet potatoes costs less than those fries.

  40. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah.
    IST likes to say fat people are responsible for their condition and they have a point on the individual level.
    BUT on a systemic level, people are still just getting fatter everyday and individual responsibility counts for nothing. We've been operating on individual responsibility this whole time and it just creates obesity.
    McDonald's is only so easy because of the massive economies of scale, mechanization, and mobilization of service behind every step of production, otherwise it'd be no different to making some potatos at home. Frankly, why shouldn't eating a low cal whole foods be as easy as getting some mickyDs? If you're not open to that type of world being made a reality, are you really taking this problem seriously?

  41. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    99c

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      How about some soup?
      As a rule of thumb 150 JPY is $1 USD

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Not filling enough?
        How about something heavier?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Maybe a nice light salad with dressing of your choice?

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Or maybe splurge for dat dere protein?

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Or maybe you'd prefer a nice grilled fish for breakfast (no grill required)

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >saba for 304 yen (2.29 usd)
                moron that costs like 10 here, fucking hell id become fat if I lived in nipland

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              Japanese are freaking spoiled, I would make my way to a local bento store if I were living in Japan to get my homemade style lunches. Can't beat authentic.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Japanese are freaking spoiled
                Yeah
                I have probably eaten that tandoori chicken 1000 times
                It's a little expensive, but you can't beat the convenience

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        carpe sodium

  42. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I remember shortly after I first started trying to lose weight and get healthier, I was in a gas station with a big convenience store attached to it. I looked around and realized that there were literally hundreds of different food products on sale, and nearly all of them were just straight up junk food. Row after row of potato chips and candy, factory made sandwiches with deli meat and cheese in HFCS bread, "healthy" ultraprocessed meal replacement bars and cookies, and multiple refrigerators with sodas and beer. The only sort of healthy things were a few bags of unsalted nuts.

    There was no fresh fruit for sale, no salads, no yogurt. How are people supposed to make smart choices when this is what's thrust in front of you constantly?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >In a gas station
      >Why are there no salads, fresh fruit, yogurt?

      You're a fucking retard. Do you live in NYC?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can get some salads in a kiosk here in Finland though a KM away from me.

  43. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can get an apple for 69¢ or a banana for 30¢ or a whole pack of strawberries for $3

    Mixed fresh fruit is the biggest scam since asbestos

  44. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >fried potato (the easiest shit to grow) is more expensive than a bunch of exotic fruits from all over the world
    who would have thought?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      fuck I meant less I'm retarded

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ya dun goofed anon
        Everybody point and laugh at this retard

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          🙁

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ah ah ah no crying, now put on your dunce hat

  45. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    One potato is cheaper than a variety of fruit….. how can this bee….

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's like 3 potatoes.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Its like 1.3 potatoes. A small fry has 31g carbs

  46. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    kek

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      bruh

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Hmm

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’ve seen you do this shit twice, how???

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        meme magic

  47. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    cope

  48. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why is IST so anti fast food?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you ask questions you already know the answer to?

  49. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >our "system" is "broken" because a single mom with no high school education and several kids all from different men can't find the time to cook ingredients that are cheaper and healthier than pre-made bullshit
    If you cannot find a couple of hours a week to make food, you're the one that's broken, not """""the system""""".

  50. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    So we need cheaper high sugar options? We need to lower the price of seasonal fruits or raise the price if easily grown potatoes? What a fucking brain dead picture.

  51. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Fruit should be treated as a desert. Fructose will get you fat.

  52. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    its the regulations on farming, coupled with massive subsidies to corn growing specifically which is why its in all food in the USA.
    this is what is wrong.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      All food should be more expensive and yes major crops are heavily subsidized. More natural food prices would make it less necessary to conduct high volume farming which means the medium-small family farm would be a more feasible option once again. This would ironically solve a number of social woes as the family farm is literally how you produce decent people who aren't completely useless and retarded.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        and we need to prevent larger groups from purchasing mass amounts of farm land, holding monopolies.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          imagine the absolute amount of ads garden gnomes would run on every medium manipulating people.

          >the government wants to take away our rights as citizens to own land. vote against XYZ.

          >brought to you by the goodest goys for american democracy

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >garden gnomes

  53. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Nothing
    >$0.00

  54. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    fake news mcdonalds medium fries are like 2.70 cents so they can garden gnome you into buy the large fries for a slightly increased price like 3.00

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