Dude was a freak. Wish my gym had a pool. Old one did but I'm not driving 25 min anymore. No one ever used it or the saunas. Downtown gym was mint bc all the fat lawyers and cops just went to the bar after work.
Wish I would have been pushed to do athletic swimming. My body is literally designed for it. Basically like Phelps build but a couple inches shorter, long torso, short legs relative to height, etc. I was a really good swimmer from basically toddler age. Fuck I hate my mother. Glad she's dead.
Think about it anon. Think about how many organizations and businesses stand to profit off of perpetuating the idea to retards that the best and perhaps ONLY way to get in shape is jogging. I mean first off most fat fucks think that the thing standing between their blubber and being thin is exercising when it's probably 98% their disgusting diets and 2% sedentary lack of exercise. So when the fat retards actually get riled up and motivated to do something about their fatness once or twice per year, what do they do?
Do they just find a diet that is sensible, realistic, and works for them which they can adopt in stages to ease their way into healthier habits? NO! Of course not. They buy some running shoes, some too-tight running outfits and heave their fat fucking bodies out the door for a jog. Naturally it will be an unpleasant experience for them. If they truly are fat, they'll get almost nowhere - they won't burn many calories at all vs. just not eating an extra donut or two. They won't hit their target heart rate for 30+ minutes because they lack the endurance to do so, they will be miserable and it will shock them so badly they'll never want to work out again when they could have just done a less strenuous exercise like literally any form of weight lifting, and they'll be sore as fuck at best and develop shin-splints at worst from their fat fucking bodies bounding down the sidewalk or flopping along the treadmill.
Then when they fail, who is there to take advantage of it? Everyone who stands to profit off their spiral back into unhealthiness. Sure, for actually IST people it's not so bad, but there are far better forms of cardio like swimming that don't cause chronic joint issues over a lifetime of activity.
Humans are literally built for long distance running. No other species has such an efficient cardiovascular system. Cheetahs are built for sprinting short distances, humans are built for exhausting their prey through endurance.
No we didn't this is an incredibly persistent myth. The retard who came up with this idea did so backwards, "we seem to be biologically good endurance runners so we must have!!!". You ambush a group with spears or other big brain shit with our big brains, not running down for 10 days like a retard.
Why can't it be both? Why couldn't we have evolved to create as many opportunities for ourselves to kill and eat animals?
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Because in order to keep up with a deer trotting at a brisk pace we would need to be sprinting full clip. Said animal would get 3x farther with equal strain on itself as we would, so their jog doesn't need to last as long since it would leave us in the dust.
We might have a great cardiovascular system, but it's great because we would be putting in all kinds of DIFFERENT effort, not just a linear race
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Specialisation is superior to generalisation
A world economy's stronger when different countries specialise in producing certain goods, an office is better when different people specialise in certain roles, and a species has a higher chance of survival if it specialises in certain behaviours to contribute either to its abilities to hunt or flee/defend itself
Humans developed to dominate through brain power. If the human were to develop to be as fast as a cheetah, have as sharp teeth as a GWS, fly like an albatross, and have as tough skin as a rhino, undoubtedly much would be lost. Each can't be maintained in as good a quality as described all at the same time whilst obeying the laws of physics, so each quality would have to be reduced--to get to the point where the human would just be a combination of averages. Can fly, a little bit, like a chicken. Skin kind of hard, but nothing really. Brain power would also have to be reduced to reach an equilibrium with all this
4 weeks ago
Anonymous
Interestingly enough our specialization in brainpower has allowed us to become a sort of generalist species through the use of our tools. With them(and our brains of course) we can fly higher than any of the birds, reach the darkest depths of the oceans, climb the highest peaks and so on.
>The retard who came up with this idea did so backwards, "we seem to be biologically good endurance runners so we must have!!!".
LITERALLY ALL EVOLUTIONARY SPECULATION IS ARGUING BACKWARDS
'we have this trait so this trait must be beneficial for our survival' post hoc ergo procter hoc
>le persistence hunting meme 🙂
have a nice day. Just modern day primitives and their amcestors do that. Humans north of the tropic of cancer were ambush predators.
The aerobics con
Reminder that lifting stresses the heart more than jogging, and that "cardio" improvements really stem from local vascular improvements in the limbs
And also, lactic acid is an energy source and not a waste product, despite decades of people being certain it was something to be avoided
https://i.imgur.com/8T7tThb.jpg
No we didn't this is an incredibly persistent myth. The retard who came up with this idea did so backwards, "we seem to be biologically good endurance runners so we must have!!!". You ambush a group with spears or other big brain shit with our big brains, not running down for 10 days like a retard.
Correct >myth: humans ran after animals like workhorses until they collapsed >reality: humans walk using our BRAINS to look for signs of prey, track them, sneak up to them, ambush them by throwing spears (again, BRAIN) then following the blood trail and repeating until the animal is dead
what cardio should I be doing
rowing?
You should the following two or three things:
(1) lifting weights using controlled reps to total muscular failure
(2) the activity you desire to improve performance at (e.g. if you want to be a swimmer, swim etc.)
optionally (3) if you really must do a "cardio" activity in the hopes that it provides a general systemic effect, you can either walk (ideally long distances on uneven terrain
>Think about how many organizations and businesses stand to profit off of perpetuating the idea to retards that the best and perhaps ONLY way to get in shape is jogging
None? Running is free
This would imply that the majority of people who run or jog are fat, since i'm not american i can confirm i never saw someone in my life running or doing any exercise in the open while being fat or noticeably heavyweight. So yeah, american issue.
People should try every from of exercise; maybe you enjoy swimming, maybe it's sprinting, lifting, etc. The point is to TRY something- and by far the easiest thing to try is jogging. That's why most people go for jogging first; because it's so easy to go outside and run. If you stick to it, it actually works.
So, there's a huge amount of money in catering towards it. People are more willing to try jogging than say, olympic weightlifting. That's just where the money goes. There's not a cabal of jogging garden gnomes trying to trick the populace into jogging.
>chronic joint issues
there is nothing that strengthens your joints more than running, except maybe lifting. Just because fatasses fuck themselves up jogging doesn't mean it is universal
my normie friend got into the gym with me at the end of last year, kept making fun of me for not running on the treadmill for half an hour every workout and said I wasn't doing enough work because I didn't go to the gym 7 days a week. He kept saying how he had god tier recovery because he would go to the gym and literally do random cable exercises every day and never be sore. He quit 1 month later and keeps saying he is going to come back 'once he gets new gym clothes' or some other bs lmfao
I like this. Jogging should be looked at as its own type of exercise that has to be specifically trained FOR. It can be done throughout life and into old age, but it has to be patiently gained. The truest thing you said is that people jump in too fast, usually while fat or unfit.
This would imply that the majority of people who run or jog are fat, since i'm not american i can confirm i never saw someone in my life running or doing any exercise in the open while being fat or noticeably heavyweight. So yeah, american issue.
It implies that the majority of people who have ever tried have quit. You're just seeing ones who remain.
my normie friend got into the gym with me at the end of last year, kept making fun of me for not running on the treadmill for half an hour every workout and said I wasn't doing enough work because I didn't go to the gym 7 days a week. He kept saying how he had god tier recovery because he would go to the gym and literally do random cable exercises every day and never be sore. He quit 1 month later and keeps saying he is going to come back 'once he gets new gym clothes' or some other bs lmfao
He probably injured himself. Jogging has 3x the injury rate per 1000 hours than power lifting. One of the more dangerous exercises. The only way to do it without injury is carefully and methodically, which makes it both unexciting and dangerous. Once you get good at it, though, it's very rewarding. The body feels stronger and healthier, specifically the joints and ligaments.
nah he didn't injure himself, just burnt himself the fuck out. Nothing wrong with jogging, I don't really partake because it's fucking boring IMO (and I know that is just my opinion), I'd prefer hill sprints or something similar. I walk my dog for an hour+ a day also which is nice and relaxing cardio.
I think there's something to be said for slow jogging. Like ~10-12 min/mi pace. Ideally while in a fasted state so in the morning before breakfast. Doesn't fuck with your joints nearly as much and keeps you in zone 2 which will burn mostly fat and build endurance.
Elliptical >ultra low impact >can completely target a specific muscle group through changing incline and resistance >can keep a consistent pace for much longer than running >easier maintain heart rate at fat burning level
Literally nothing else competes. I have frequent hip and knee nerve pinching but the elliptical doesn’t make it flare up at all like running or rowing does.
Hiking is great but not really realistic as an everyday exercise routine. I can jog for 45 min in the morning then go the gym after work just fine, but going hiking is a 2-4 hour excursion
Sprinting 2 or 3 times a week yields better results assuming you aren't eating like shit. I jogged for the longest time because I couldn't stop eating. It was my only saving grace knowing I was going to jog everyday to lose weight. I'm able to control myself now. It's obviously better than nothing but it's a waste of time in my opinion. The main issue with fat asses like how I was, was controlling volume/counting calories.
I jog because I find it easier to cut by reaching a caloric deficit through cardio rather than by calorie restriction. And also I like to be outside and explore all the neighborhoods within a ~3-5 mile radius from my home. I agree that jogging is terrible for your body though. People who train for marathons and think it's healthy are retarded.
borderline fatty here, I just want to be able to run for a couple miles without hacking like a cancer patient. Can't even get a few steps of speed in currently. Seems like I'm a failure of an able bodied man if I can't do that.
You should start on the elliptical, stationary bike, and swimming before doing jogging until you get down to a weight where it wont destroy your joints as much
I started jogging recently just to improve stamina and its pretty gay. So instead I started just sprinting full pelt and then walking, then sprinting another burst then walking, rinse repeat.
My goal is to be able to sprint for 15 minutes straight.
That'll be impressive given that elite athletes run out of ATP after about 100 seconds (800m is the painful bit between sprinting and middle distance).
>cardio kills your gains
certified meme from people who get winded going up stairs
also running doesn't ruin joints, most people just have poor form, and basically every lift is equally or more stressful on joints
dudes will complain about their knees from running then go squat 3 pl8
stop making excuses, 9/10 times it boils down to I don't like getting my heart rate up
>Why are people still jogging in 2023?
I actually crave running from time to time, that feeling of wholeness after a long run is indescribable. Fat fucks will never get it.
I always rack up knee injuries when I try it. I just do the bicycle machine for cardio, at least that one never hurts me. I liked swimming until I got a cervical spine injury from it.
I started running at 30 after not doing any physical activity for like a decade, it depends on the type of workout you want to do and your physical condition, if you are fat then its better to do anything but running until you lose weight.
Agreed. I think three miles is the perfect distance to get some cardio development without doing damage or boredom. Now that I'm at three or four miles, I'm not sure that I want to do any more.
nah he didn't injure himself, just burnt himself the fuck out. Nothing wrong with jogging, I don't really partake because it's fucking boring IMO (and I know that is just my opinion), I'd prefer hill sprints or something similar. I walk my dog for an hour+ a day also which is nice and relaxing cardio.
It is definitely boring. It helps that I've killed off much of the part of my brain that requires stimulation. Mindfulness meditation and Stoicism. Jogging more than a couple of miles requires a pretty unique mindset. Gonna try trail running this spring...that might be more dynamic, hopping up and down hills and over rocks and roots.
Running outside is night and day better compared to a treadmill, even if you’re just jogging around a suburban neighborhood. Treadmills are dreadfully boring.
I run the 1700m to my local supermarket in around 9 minutes with a tramping pack then ruck back with my groceries. I once packed $160 worth of food and drinks into it for the march back. I didn't think myself or the solidarity of the pack were gonna make it a couple of times.
The mile run gets a good heart rate and sweat up then the ruck back with weight sustains it for the walk home. It's summer here and I'm always soaked in sweat by the time I get home.
>tfw been hitting rowing PRs left and right
I've got a long way to go yet but consistent progress feels good. I'm going to go for my first sub 7' 2k this weekend.
>start running >improve resting heart rate >increase stamina, rarely get winded anymore >lungs feel lighter >feel great
Oh no some shitter on my taiwanese vegan basket weiving forum says its bad, I should stop
Because a majority of people are overweight and a plurality are obese - and because it is one of the more challenging activities for a anybody to do - running is the subject of the most speculation by people who dread impactful, sustained cardiovascular activity. Predictably their speculation tends to conclude that it shouldn't be done.
I jogged for one year a few miles every day and my joints literally disintegrated. I have titanium replacements for my ankles and knees now and am 100% disabled.
Same. I've been jogging for a year now and it's all falling apart. They said they won't give me titanium joint replacements because my insurance only covers aluminum and lead. Will I be okay?
I jogged for one year a few miles every day and my joints literally disintegrated. I have titanium replacements for my ankles and knees now and am 100% disabled.
Jogging is a meme until you do it a year and your resting heart rate gets so fucking low it buys you an extra 30 years of your life and eliminates the phenomenon of "getting gassed out" out of your life.
It's one of those fitness dogma things that are based on antiquated popscience. In this case it's calling aerobics "cardio" as if it's the only way to train your heart. No, it's bunk science we know shit like jumping rope (anaerobic activity) is better at improving heart health in a fraction of the time. Like 10 minutes is equal to a 30 minute jog. That extends to lifting as well, since your heart rate SHOULD be high if you're trying even remotely. the poor "cardio" performance of a weightlifter is either through being obese or it's because they're not adapted to running, at all. To get more efficient at running your muscles transition to slow twitch, they get smaller and more efficient and longer work durations. This is completely independent of "cardio" this is a muscular adaptation. This is why there are cardio beasts in MMA that don't do roadwork, like Usman who doesn't run because of his knee issue (caused by running most likely.)
I like it though because if someone brings up running while talking about bodybuilding and strength training I know they have no clue what they're talking about and I can ignore them. Doubly so if they call aerobics, "cardio."
Funny enough this study says HIIT is as good as longer LISS sessions at improving cardio but then come to the conclusion that it's inferior because it's "harder." Give me 10 minutes of tough work over an hour of pointless time wasting any day.
I always though walking and jogging is it seems so pointless, walk from A to B back to A.
At least walk to a store or walk through every aisle and accomplish something.
Jogging is such a meme. Just buy a stairmaster
NPC workout.
Literally find a rope and jump with it.
Better cardio than running or swimming lol
>Whitney, run! There's a moron right behind you!
hehehe, he's black
>le 4chaney humour
Have sex
>Fat white woman and black dude
Pottery.
they're both fat
It makes me feel good, improves my recovery, gives me more energy, lowers my blood pressure.
Thats the script, or wmaf. Fucking sick of seeing mixed couples in advertising
I like jogging though
It's closer to full on sprint though because jogging is too slow
Swimming chads cant stop winning
Dude was a freak. Wish my gym had a pool. Old one did but I'm not driving 25 min anymore. No one ever used it or the saunas. Downtown gym was mint bc all the fat lawyers and cops just went to the bar after work.
Wish I would have been pushed to do athletic swimming. My body is literally designed for it. Basically like Phelps build but a couple inches shorter, long torso, short legs relative to height, etc. I was a really good swimmer from basically toddler age. Fuck I hate my mother. Glad she's dead.
Is a long torso good for swimming?
Longer torso, shorter legs relative to height is good for swimming.
Is that shopped
Look at the muffin top in the lower right, underdeveloped pecs and weak chin. 2/10
your gains
It doesn't
>eliminates your gains
if by gains you mean the fat you put on as a power shitter then yes
Think about it anon. Think about how many organizations and businesses stand to profit off of perpetuating the idea to retards that the best and perhaps ONLY way to get in shape is jogging. I mean first off most fat fucks think that the thing standing between their blubber and being thin is exercising when it's probably 98% their disgusting diets and 2% sedentary lack of exercise. So when the fat retards actually get riled up and motivated to do something about their fatness once or twice per year, what do they do?
Do they just find a diet that is sensible, realistic, and works for them which they can adopt in stages to ease their way into healthier habits? NO! Of course not. They buy some running shoes, some too-tight running outfits and heave their fat fucking bodies out the door for a jog. Naturally it will be an unpleasant experience for them. If they truly are fat, they'll get almost nowhere - they won't burn many calories at all vs. just not eating an extra donut or two. They won't hit their target heart rate for 30+ minutes because they lack the endurance to do so, they will be miserable and it will shock them so badly they'll never want to work out again when they could have just done a less strenuous exercise like literally any form of weight lifting, and they'll be sore as fuck at best and develop shin-splints at worst from their fat fucking bodies bounding down the sidewalk or flopping along the treadmill.
Then when they fail, who is there to take advantage of it? Everyone who stands to profit off their spiral back into unhealthiness. Sure, for actually IST people it's not so bad, but there are far better forms of cardio like swimming that don't cause chronic joint issues over a lifetime of activity.
But humans are designed to run
Humans are designed to walk long distances and sprint short distances. That's about it.
This. Jogging is simply a meme to get you to buy expensive shoes with shock absorption so you don't realize how much joint damage you are doing
Humans are literally built for long distance running. No other species has such an efficient cardiovascular system. Cheetahs are built for sprinting short distances, humans are built for exhausting their prey through endurance.
No we didn't this is an incredibly persistent myth. The retard who came up with this idea did so backwards, "we seem to be biologically good endurance runners so we must have!!!". You ambush a group with spears or other big brain shit with our big brains, not running down for 10 days like a retard.
I love evolutionary theory because you can use your imagination and pretty much conjecture just about anything if you are talking long ago enough
Why can't it be both? Why couldn't we have evolved to create as many opportunities for ourselves to kill and eat animals?
Because in order to keep up with a deer trotting at a brisk pace we would need to be sprinting full clip. Said animal would get 3x farther with equal strain on itself as we would, so their jog doesn't need to last as long since it would leave us in the dust.
We might have a great cardiovascular system, but it's great because we would be putting in all kinds of DIFFERENT effort, not just a linear race
Specialisation is superior to generalisation
A world economy's stronger when different countries specialise in producing certain goods, an office is better when different people specialise in certain roles, and a species has a higher chance of survival if it specialises in certain behaviours to contribute either to its abilities to hunt or flee/defend itself
Humans developed to dominate through brain power. If the human were to develop to be as fast as a cheetah, have as sharp teeth as a GWS, fly like an albatross, and have as tough skin as a rhino, undoubtedly much would be lost. Each can't be maintained in as good a quality as described all at the same time whilst obeying the laws of physics, so each quality would have to be reduced--to get to the point where the human would just be a combination of averages. Can fly, a little bit, like a chicken. Skin kind of hard, but nothing really. Brain power would also have to be reduced to reach an equilibrium with all this
Interestingly enough our specialization in brainpower has allowed us to become a sort of generalist species through the use of our tools. With them(and our brains of course) we can fly higher than any of the birds, reach the darkest depths of the oceans, climb the highest peaks and so on.
>The retard who came up with this idea did so backwards, "we seem to be biologically good endurance runners so we must have!!!".
LITERALLY ALL EVOLUTIONARY SPECULATION IS ARGUING BACKWARDS
'we have this trait so this trait must be beneficial for our survival' post hoc ergo procter hoc
>No other species has such an efficient cardiovascular system
Yeah it’s not like humans could ever corral and tame horses, they’re clearly superior lol
Tbf you can run down a horse if it's hot enough
Is that true? Crazy.
What are you even arguing about?
a horse can run for up to one hour,a human can run for up to a day,the horse will always run faster of course,but the human will always run longer.
long distance, humans are faster than any animal, including horses.
apex predators, even before we got any proper weapons.
>le persistence hunting meme 🙂
have a nice day. Just modern day primitives and their amcestors do that. Humans north of the tropic of cancer were ambush predators.
The aerobics con
Reminder that lifting stresses the heart more than jogging, and that "cardio" improvements really stem from local vascular improvements in the limbs
And also, lactic acid is an energy source and not a waste product, despite decades of people being certain it was something to be avoided
Correct
>myth: humans ran after animals like workhorses until they collapsed
>reality: humans walk using our BRAINS to look for signs of prey, track them, sneak up to them, ambush them by throwing spears (again, BRAIN) then following the blood trail and repeating until the animal is dead
You should the following two or three things:
(1) lifting weights using controlled reps to total muscular failure
(2) the activity you desire to improve performance at (e.g. if you want to be a swimmer, swim etc.)
optionally (3) if you really must do a "cardio" activity in the hopes that it provides a general systemic effect, you can either walk (ideally long distances on uneven terrain
) or sprint flat/hills
How can one man be so deluded.
humans aren't designed to weigh 300+ pounds
chatgpt
>Think about how many organizations and businesses stand to profit off of perpetuating the idea to retards that the best and perhaps ONLY way to get in shape is jogging
None? Running is free
This would imply that the majority of people who run or jog are fat, since i'm not american i can confirm i never saw someone in my life running or doing any exercise in the open while being fat or noticeably heavyweight. So yeah, american issue.
People should try every from of exercise; maybe you enjoy swimming, maybe it's sprinting, lifting, etc. The point is to TRY something- and by far the easiest thing to try is jogging. That's why most people go for jogging first; because it's so easy to go outside and run. If you stick to it, it actually works.
So, there's a huge amount of money in catering towards it. People are more willing to try jogging than say, olympic weightlifting. That's just where the money goes. There's not a cabal of jogging garden gnomes trying to trick the populace into jogging.
>chronic joint issues
there is nothing that strengthens your joints more than running, except maybe lifting. Just because fatasses fuck themselves up jogging doesn't mean it is universal
This is why I promote jogging, less competition and more fat sows I can laugh at and ignore.
my normie friend got into the gym with me at the end of last year, kept making fun of me for not running on the treadmill for half an hour every workout and said I wasn't doing enough work because I didn't go to the gym 7 days a week. He kept saying how he had god tier recovery because he would go to the gym and literally do random cable exercises every day and never be sore. He quit 1 month later and keeps saying he is going to come back 'once he gets new gym clothes' or some other bs lmfao
I like this. Jogging should be looked at as its own type of exercise that has to be specifically trained FOR. It can be done throughout life and into old age, but it has to be patiently gained. The truest thing you said is that people jump in too fast, usually while fat or unfit.
It implies that the majority of people who have ever tried have quit. You're just seeing ones who remain.
He probably injured himself. Jogging has 3x the injury rate per 1000 hours than power lifting. One of the more dangerous exercises. The only way to do it without injury is carefully and methodically, which makes it both unexciting and dangerous. Once you get good at it, though, it's very rewarding. The body feels stronger and healthier, specifically the joints and ligaments.
nah he didn't injure himself, just burnt himself the fuck out. Nothing wrong with jogging, I don't really partake because it's fucking boring IMO (and I know that is just my opinion), I'd prefer hill sprints or something similar. I walk my dog for an hour+ a day also which is nice and relaxing cardio.
What is wrong with distance sprinting though?
nail on the head
So many corporations and different entities stand to gain from misinformation
Cope
I think there's something to be said for slow jogging. Like ~10-12 min/mi pace. Ideally while in a fasted state so in the morning before breakfast. Doesn't fuck with your joints nearly as much and keeps you in zone 2 which will burn mostly fat and build endurance.
What is the best cardio? Jogging just makes me sore but cycling refreshes me and makes me energetic. What should I do bros?
Elliptical
>ultra low impact
>can completely target a specific muscle group through changing incline and resistance
>can keep a consistent pace for much longer than running
>easier maintain heart rate at fat burning level
Literally nothing else competes. I have frequent hip and knee nerve pinching but the elliptical doesn’t make it flare up at all like running or rowing does.
Hiking is great but not really realistic as an everyday exercise routine. I can jog for 45 min in the morning then go the gym after work just fine, but going hiking is a 2-4 hour excursion
Hiking is the white man's sport
Rowing
swimming does the job for me. i am currently jogging since i'm just too embarassed to go swimming though, lol
as an aside, today i hit 10k non stop for the first time!
Well done WGMI
report and sage
report for what?
Sprinting 2 or 3 times a week yields better results assuming you aren't eating like shit. I jogged for the longest time because I couldn't stop eating. It was my only saving grace knowing I was going to jog everyday to lose weight. I'm able to control myself now. It's obviously better than nothing but it's a waste of time in my opinion. The main issue with fat asses like how I was, was controlling volume/counting calories.
Because it's fun and feels good. Simple as.
That and the small satisfaction of seeing others winded by shit that's easy for you
There's hundreds of pics on the internet.
Why did you pick this one specifically OP?
it's perfect rage bait and guarantees replies
Thinly veiled cuck thread
I jog because I find it easier to cut by reaching a caloric deficit through cardio rather than by calorie restriction. And also I like to be outside and explore all the neighborhoods within a ~3-5 mile radius from my home. I agree that jogging is terrible for your body though. People who train for marathons and think it's healthy are retarded.
Runner's high
borderline fatty here, I just want to be able to run for a couple miles without hacking like a cancer patient. Can't even get a few steps of speed in currently. Seems like I'm a failure of an able bodied man if I can't do that.
Start by walking and dieting. Get down to 20% body fat before you start jogging.
You should start on the elliptical, stationary bike, and swimming before doing jogging until you get down to a weight where it wont destroy your joints as much
>fucks your joints
>eliminates your gains
It does neither if done properly and it’s not the main dish of every workout.
>fucks your joints
Tsk, tsk, mutts I swear...
>t. Dies at 49 from alcoholism or in hohlandia
explain why you need to live longer than that
these guys are 18-20 years old
>set treadmill incline to max
>quick walking pace
>win
I started jogging recently just to improve stamina and its pretty gay. So instead I started just sprinting full pelt and then walking, then sprinting another burst then walking, rinse repeat.
My goal is to be able to sprint for 15 minutes straight.
That'll be impressive given that elite athletes run out of ATP after about 100 seconds (800m is the painful bit between sprinting and middle distance).
Maybe 5 minutes is a better goal. As long as I can bail from police and not be run down.
You physically can't sprint for 5 minutes.
Run fast for five minutes.
>that image choice
Post chin and adams apple
>jogging is le bad
Post body
>cardio kills your gains
certified meme from people who get winded going up stairs
also running doesn't ruin joints, most people just have poor form, and basically every lift is equally or more stressful on joints
dudes will complain about their knees from running then go squat 3 pl8
stop making excuses, 9/10 times it boils down to I don't like getting my heart rate up
>lets you run around in public without a shirt
Filtered lmao
>Why are people still jogging in 2023?
I actually crave running from time to time, that feeling of wholeness after a long run is indescribable. Fat fucks will never get it.
I always rack up knee injuries when I try it. I just do the bicycle machine for cardio, at least that one never hurts me. I liked swimming until I got a cervical spine injury from it.
>athletic companies sell expensive cushioned shoes to help with joint pain
Or maybe just run correctly instead of running the way Nike and others have conditioned you to.
"oh yeah you need some REALLY GOOD running shoes because it's hard on your body!"
what a scameroni
How do you run “correctly”?
Not the same dude, but pose method is a pretty good way of running with correct form.
How does that work
>fucks your joints
fatass
>eliminates your gains
lazy powershitter
>Why are people still jogging in 2023?
psyop doomertalk. gtfo
what cardio should I be doing
rowing?
Rowing, cycling or elliptical are all great low impact options
is 28 too late to start working out
i feel like I doubled my own depression just typing that
I started running at 30 after not doing any physical activity for like a decade, it depends on the type of workout you want to do and your physical condition, if you are fat then its better to do anything but running until you lose weight.
I conceal carry bc of all the joggers 'round town
underrated
People are attention whores. Now they can go out in public and show everyone they exercise as they exercise.
Damn right I will show every single Stacey in the area my 6 pack while running shirtless while you cope and seethe and rant about "joints"
Based. Fuck these fat pussies, shirtless running chads can't stop winning
Going for a 3+ mile run on a warm summer night is god tier as far as I’m concerned. Feels way better than going to the gym.
Agreed. I think three miles is the perfect distance to get some cardio development without doing damage or boredom. Now that I'm at three or four miles, I'm not sure that I want to do any more.
It is definitely boring. It helps that I've killed off much of the part of my brain that requires stimulation. Mindfulness meditation and Stoicism. Jogging more than a couple of miles requires a pretty unique mindset. Gonna try trail running this spring...that might be more dynamic, hopping up and down hills and over rocks and roots.
Running outside is night and day better compared to a treadmill, even if you’re just jogging around a suburban neighborhood. Treadmills are dreadfully boring.
I have an ipad holder on my treadmill so I just watch shit. Treadmills are way easier on your joints because there is some bounce that assists you.
just do jump ropes. only needs a small space, more efficient, better for your joints.
For me, it's an elliptical
I walk around 30 minutes every day in the sun for vitamin D and testosterone gains and other health benefits
I run the 1700m to my local supermarket in around 9 minutes with a tramping pack then ruck back with my groceries. I once packed $160 worth of food and drinks into it for the march back. I didn't think myself or the solidarity of the pack were gonna make it a couple of times.
The mile run gets a good heart rate and sweat up then the ruck back with weight sustains it for the walk home. It's summer here and I'm always soaked in sweat by the time I get home.
Obviously I intentionally do this at the hottest part of the day for extra fitness and heat tolerance gains.
Just run on grass or a rubber track. The only thing that is bad for your joints is running on concrete.
Dysgenic mutt
>tfw been hitting rowing PRs left and right
I've got a long way to go yet but consistent progress feels good. I'm going to go for my first sub 7' 2k this weekend.
Fuck.
>start running
>improve resting heart rate
>increase stamina, rarely get winded anymore
>lungs feel lighter
>feel great
Oh no some shitter on my taiwanese vegan basket weiving forum says its bad, I should stop
Because a majority of people are overweight and a plurality are obese - and because it is one of the more challenging activities for a anybody to do - running is the subject of the most speculation by people who dread impactful, sustained cardiovascular activity. Predictably their speculation tends to conclude that it shouldn't be done.
Same. I've been jogging for a year now and it's all falling apart. They said they won't give me titanium joint replacements because my insurance only covers aluminum and lead. Will I be okay?
I'm a lower class man, the doctor is going to use copper from pennies for my knee replacement
I jogged for one year a few miles every day and my joints literally disintegrated. I have titanium replacements for my ankles and knees now and am 100% disabled.
Jogging is a meme until you do it a year and your resting heart rate gets so fucking low it buys you an extra 30 years of your life and eliminates the phenomenon of "getting gassed out" out of your life.
It's one of those fitness dogma things that are based on antiquated popscience. In this case it's calling aerobics "cardio" as if it's the only way to train your heart. No, it's bunk science we know shit like jumping rope (anaerobic activity) is better at improving heart health in a fraction of the time. Like 10 minutes is equal to a 30 minute jog. That extends to lifting as well, since your heart rate SHOULD be high if you're trying even remotely. the poor "cardio" performance of a weightlifter is either through being obese or it's because they're not adapted to running, at all. To get more efficient at running your muscles transition to slow twitch, they get smaller and more efficient and longer work durations. This is completely independent of "cardio" this is a muscular adaptation. This is why there are cardio beasts in MMA that don't do roadwork, like Usman who doesn't run because of his knee issue (caused by running most likely.)
I like it though because if someone brings up running while talking about bodybuilding and strength training I know they have no clue what they're talking about and I can ignore them. Doubly so if they call aerobics, "cardio."
Funny enough this study says HIIT is as good as longer LISS sessions at improving cardio but then come to the conclusion that it's inferior because it's "harder." Give me 10 minutes of tough work over an hour of pointless time wasting any day.
I always though walking and jogging is it seems so pointless, walk from A to B back to A.
At least walk to a store or walk through every aisle and accomplish something.