>go to SE Asia
>everyone is trim and healthy looking
>obesity nonexistent
diet: mostly carbs, minimal fat
>return to USA
>diet filled with fat
>lmao 50% obesity
Doesn't this basically disprove keto?
>go to SE Asia. >everyone is trim and healthy looking. >obesity nonexistent
>trim
nice try bong
Nutrition is more complex than carbs vs fats. By making a post like this you are no better than ketogays. Your an idiot who's trying to look for a miracle cure by dumbing down nutrition to the intake of a single macro nutrient.
>your
I'd like to see how well you are versed in my language before trying to act like I'm an idiot again. Or did you forget about the face that the world is bigger than the country you live in?
Hilarious self-own. Nobody needs to learn your language because your country isn't the best. You learned my language because America is #1.
NTA, but M8 america is a shit pile. We are the laughing stock of the western world due to our third world problems and dying economy. I was raised to be a patriot, but aside from the golden pockets of old American culture in select rural areas, most of america is fricked at this point, and its hard to be proud of this once great country.
Nobody in America says "M8."
Back to remedial Engrish, ESL
Lol who's laughing
And we're better than u
fructose/lactose/galactose are bad carbs. ~~*healthy*~~ fats are lie. they are all evil. does not matter if its sneed shit pushed by sőjack looking experts or "nourishing""test boosting" shit like lard/tallow/butter. fat you eat is fat you wear with exception of sugar guzzlers and drunkards.
>fructose/lactose/galactose are bad carbs
So you are trying to say that the carbs that our ancestors actually ate for millions of years untill agriculture started a few thousand years ago are the bad carbs?
And the carbs that we've been eating for 2000 years are the good carbs...?
Uhmm, frick. I never thought about it like that. I just listened to what mr sheckelberg told me. I was just trying to be a good goy.
>it can't be bad because its old
People were generally malnourished before agriculture because they had to eat whatever they could find or kill.
lmao, we actually shrunk in body/brain size because we moved from eating proper food (meat, fat) to living in villages/towns and eating slop grains.
They didn't shrink because the types of carbs they ate changed. They shrank because populations could now support a class of people like slaves/servants who ate like shit because they were poor.
Modern Western societies have similar heights to hunter gatherers because they can eat a diet with enough protein.
>Modern Western societies have similar heights to hunter gatherers because they can eat a diet with enough protein.
Actually it's steroids in dairy products annihilating their hormones but sure
Processed food is the problem.
See Weston Price.
Imagine trying to find bread as a hunter
gatherer. You can't. It's unnatural.
Been doing keto for literally years and I haven’t heard of any of these people
>Nutrition is more complex than carbs vs fats
It's as simple as CICO tho
No nutrition is more complex. Weight loss is as simple as CICO. Nutrition, and proper eating for gains is not the same as weight loss, and gets fairly complex if you want tobr “optimal”
>gets fairly complex if you want tobr “optimal”
its piss easy
>eat vegetables
>eat fruit
>protein
>avoid fat
I went to Beijing a few years ago.
Even though most men were manlets, I have not seen a single obese.
Everyone was fit.
Pretty impressive, I realized how nightmarish the people are here in the West.
>fit
You mean thin or scrawny
I lived in Beijing for a bit, and you're very wrong. They are all skinny fat. Fitness is hardly a thing is china, though it's getting more popular mostly amongst the wealthier. Most people are skinny but have pooch bellies full of visceral fat from downing baijiu all day and smoking ciggies constantly.
It's just cico. And if you eat lots of carbs without sufficient protein and muscle stimulation, you'll end up skinny fat.
They’re starving, moron
They're not starving, they're about normal. Your perception of normal weight is screwed due to being American/western.
They’re all scrawny midgets dude, they’re weak as frick and not at all hardy people.
They don't need to be strong though their country is high trust and generally lacking poopskins who start shit
So we need Black folk to be strong, id rather be strong
My sister dated an Asian guy for a while and she used to make him arm wrestle her as a party thing. He never won, my sister isn't fat but she's also not swole, just does cardio daily and girl weights like 2x a week. Yeah ideas of thin/fat are swayed by American perception, but so is the idea of how strong a person should be.
Strong enough to frick your sister HA HA HA HA HA
Lol no. People in Thailand, Cambodia, Malaysia etc are eating three big meals a day at least. In fact they probably spend like 4 hours a day just eating.
I know this is keto bait but the major part of the difference is best on lifestyle rather than diet I believe. Most SE Asian countries have people leading very active lives. Huge pedestrian culture and also some amount of cycling (less now than back then with advent of scooters/motorbikes).
Also lol @ minimal fat. You're talking about folks that suckle at collagen rich bone broth based males and stewed meats...Just because you can't visibly identify the fat in their meals doesn't make them devoid of it. It's in most of their hot meals, but it's usually animal fat as opposed to butters. Nowadays they cook a lot more with oils though. They will catch up if they don't watch it tbh.
But to reiterate my point, they're way more active than the average American.
cope. its fat. always was.
>170
>170 x 9 = 1560 calories daily from fat
I don't buy that. Is thst Austria?
People look good over there, but I find hard to believe they're esting that much fat.
perhaps they are going into low carb territory. this with some activity can too result in not being kind of slim.
If you made the same chart with daily grams of protein or carbs you'd see the same trend. It's a volume issue.
>grams of fat
>not percentage of calories from fat
You are a dumb Black person. Please learn how to capitalize before posting your uninformed opinions.
I think a lot of it is that Asians
>culture of shaking fatties
>eating a lot less
>are generally broke and can’t afford good food
>genetically have a harder time getting fat
>eat nothing substantial
They’re also much more likely to get diabetes genetically. I have spent quite a bit of time in China for example, and I lost a lot of weight because they see a 300 calorie bowl of noodles as a large meal
South korea and japan are significantly lower than the US (7 and 6% compared with over 10%). China is comparable with the US but fractionally lower
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/diabetes-rates-by-country
I’m not talking about the prevalence of diabetes in their nations, I’m talking about their risk for becoming diabetic
https://minorityhealth.hhs.gov/diabetes-and-asian-americans
Sorry for the gay link, it’s just the most comprehensive I could find
>people can satisfy themselves on 300 calories worth of carbs
>amerifats can't make the connection that fat is driving their insatiable appetites
IST really can't understand basic biology
Ever hear of an Eskimo? Your diet advice is moronic, doesn’t take genetics into account, and you should kys
Yeah I've heard of Eskimo Joe he's a lot happier than real Eskimos that only exist to be bullied or coddled by white gods
>go anywhere not seppostan
>eat normal human portions
>people not fat
>go seppostan
>a normal portion would serve 3
>people fat because [insert arbitrary macro here]
>Fat drives the hunger drive.
Carbs are satisfying but mixed with fat they become crack.
Humans are animals and slaves to their biology. Fat + carbs is a rare food combo that triggers binge eating. Fat is also preferentially stored as fat before lipogenesis from carbs occurs with a 30% conversion loss.
The more you Americans ignore this the fatter you will become. It's a comedy watching you balloon up and constantly engaging in starve-binge cycles simply because you refuse to acknowledge your biology. What a stupid people.
Kek you’ll be joining us soon enough eurohomosexual
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/products-eurostat-news/-/ddn-20210721-2
they’re also all low test bugs, remember that.
Been to Taiwan and Japan. Most people are thin to skinnyfat, there are a few obvious athletes (who are also usually taller), ottermode is somewhat, and occasionally you see a completely spherical Asian girl (her life must be brutal). People do exercise but it's mainly stuff like Tai Chi and team sports (baseball particularly). There are a lot of gyms with weights, some people are big, but I haven't seen anyone there to rival the size of some people I've seen in UK gyms, both heightwise and masswise. However, I only visited one gym 2-3 times in Taiwan, and none in Japan. Weight training seems to only be popular among the zoom generation.
I'm not sure I'd characterise either diet as minimal fat as while they do eat a lot of rice, noodles and bready things (bao and dumplings) they deep fry a lot and use a lot of oils. The food there is not particularly healthy, they just eat small portions. Characterising them as fit and diet conscious is not accurate to what I saw.
>I'm not sure I'd characterise either diet as minimal fat
Small portions =/= minimal fat
>they deep fry a lot and use a lot of oils
I only ever see that with street food. They eat a metric ton of stir-fry veggies with again, minimal oil.
Americans once again can't put two together in that fat drives hunger. Remove the fat and you stop with the moron binge cycles. Fat is an unnecessary food macro with all sources being near zero nutrition.
you don't need:
>animal fats
>sneed oil
>shortening
>extra virgin olive oil
>nuts
>seeds
>avocados
All fats are poor nutrition and promote obesity. All fats cannot satisfy the hunger drive. You can disagree but you're coping. Vietnam will continue to enjoy 1.5% obesity while Americans are 85% obesity or overweight. Absolute clown shit.
No.
>You're not gonna believe this. He leg pressed 1000lbs. Guy was a bodybuilder.
>His squat looked like shit.
they have walkable cities and higher quality less-processed food
As a non american, I can say that american snacks are vomit inducing. I like sweets, but holly fricking shit, american food are insanelly full of sugar and unhealthy ingredients.
It is unreal, how can you even eat this kind of food regularly?
With a shot of insulin.
It's actually disgusting aye, went to yankland with a mate and grabbed a powerade at a dairy thinking it'd taste like NZ Powerade, nope, shit was revolting never had anything so sweet in my life, ditched it in the bin after two sips
Its mindboggling, they even add sugar to the fricking bread lmao.
I bought a bunch of imported sodas once. Stuff like Dr Pepper, 7Up, etc.
Every single one tasted like god damn cough syrup or some other cold medicine.
Checked the nutrition label - all of them had high fructose corn syrup.
How the frick do amerifats even drink whole bottles of that garbage?
Half of your country lives in poverty, most of the population is fat as frick and you Black folk have africa-tier homicide rates kek.
I’m not a big fan of soda or candy tbh. I’ll tolerate a reese’s peanut butter which at least tastes like it’s just low-quality peanut butter. Soda is gross tbh. Juice is pretty good, but often artificially flavored here. Better to squeeze your own.
My biggest letdown was when I tasted the chocolate you guys have over there. Everyone was hyping Reese's up to me, but it just tastes like average quality chocolate. Nothing could compare to Lindt or Milka. Despite the amount and variety of goyslop you guys have over there, all of it tastes pretty bland.
Nothing should be sweeter than honey
I don't get the obsession with trying to disprove keto, keto works through CICO just the same and losing weight is good for your health signatures. There's some nuances like gut health, energy for exercise, and inflammation but there's ways to adapt keto in a non-moronic way. People in asia do more regular activity, manual labor, in general eat less, alongside less meat since it's a luxury.
it's humid as frick there don't want to be fat when it's like that
>majority too poor to own a vehicle
>have to walk 20 miles to and from their 12 hours shift at the sweat shop
>too poor to afford quality meat and processed foods
>survive off 1000 calories of unseasoned rice, mushrooms, fish, and pickled vegetables
All diet discourse is fake and gay.
It's been all figured out for thousands of years.
Active people who don't eat much are lean. If activities involve using strength they naturally have more muscle.
Inactive people who eat too much are fat. 20% fat, 40% I don't care.
All arguments about a diet is just COPE for people who aren't HONEST with themselves. They want something else to be THE CAUSE.
>don't eat a diet that is biologically correct for your species (fatty food)
85% of Americans = overweight obese
>eat a diet that is biologically correct for your species (carbs and low fat)
1.5% overweight/obese t. Vietnam
In fact, it is YOU moron who keeps peddling this bill of goods about CICO that has doomed your moron country.
I'm not an Ameristani nor do I care about ameristanian fatness.
I eat lard, chicken's skin, butter, sunflower oil, nuts and seeds, not-sol-lean ground beef etc. I enjoy the fattest curd, sour cream and milk I can find, too. I'm not fat because I move. I walk, swim, run. I can eat all the fat I want.
Your post is gay. "CICO" is a gay word too. You're gay.
Checkmate moron
Nutrition isn't a settled science because it literally doesn't matter.
The reason why americans are so fricking fat is because they don't move around, SE asians actually work manual labor and walk around.
You're fat because you're a lazy slob not because of what you eat.
>they don't move around,
the construction workers in America are fat
The athletes that eat fat are all fat.
The physicians are fat.
Everyone who eats fat is fat.
>the construction workers in America are fat
>drive 2 hours in a car to your work site
>spend 8 hours sitting in a forklift
>drive 2 hours back home
Yeah, I wonder why they are fat.
>The athletes that eat fat are all fat.
I've never seen a fat athlete whose sport includes moving around.
>The physicians are fat
That's not a job that requires moving around, they just read theory and parrot talking points.
>Everyone who eats fat is fat.
Nah
I worked at Amazon.
They spent 8 hours lifting thousands of boxes many 45 lbs + and powerwalking 10 miles of warehouse.
Still obese.
inferior whiteoid genetics
>he said in English
youre fat
This may come as a shock to you, but people in SEA work the same jobs as in the west with the same levels of activity and intensity. There is literally zero difference.
There's retail workers who sit and stand around for 6-8 hours a day. Office wagies who sit down for 8 hours a day. Construction workers who only do a few hours of actual work, rest of the time they are sitting around smoking.
The biggest is they don't stuff their face with takeaway goyslop during lunch break.
(Clown)
no argument?
It's beneath me
Fat makes people fat it's just fat americans being contrarians. One of the most beloved weight loss experts in America was Robert Atkins who died 260lbs with hypertension and heart disease. I've seen americans claim hypertension doesn't exist.
keep in mind the official medical report is buried by AMERICAN search engine algorithm so you have to dig to find it. Trying to cope by claiming it's fake doesn't work because he did debates a couple years before his death and he was obese in those too. He claimed it was just because he's old 🙁
The way the report leaked was some rival of his just asked for it lol.
And here's the heart problems he hid from the people he was grifting.
>"MI" for myocardial infarction, "CHF" for congestive heart failure, and "HTN" for hypertension
Basically, you're a fricking moron if you keep falling for his grift to this day. Only in America can a fatass lard fricker become a beloved diet expert. Hopefully he's burning in hell, extra hot with his lard.
Lastly, this is him when he was allegedly "healthy" according to his cultists. Fat frick debating 3 lean doctors about how vegetables make you fat. Only in America.
You dumb motherfrickers, it's about how fast you eat. Portion sizes can be smaller when people use mealtimes to chat, socialize and otherwise give time to signal to the brain that the stomach is full. This is how portion sizes can be reasonable.
>non American pretending to be American
Many such cases
>go to Japan
>am 6’5”
>wear knock off super flashy versace
>no one thinks I’m a stand user mfw anime isn’t some huge thing here and gets made fun of by most
>mfw they think I’m cerebrity
>go with it, avoid giving out a name say on vacation in secret don’t want fans to know make up nickname “the Bvll”
>mfw have penpals in Japan that call me “Bvll”
high sugar diets basically mainline into fat
carbs especially complex carbs dont
they do however effect rates of diabetes which is relatively high in china, india, pakistan etc despite obesity rates being quite low
being skinny is not synonymous with health
look at france for example; high fat diets, everything is cooked in butter and cheese and milk and they have low rates of both diabetes and obesity.
The diet isn't the mistery
The real trick here is the private healthcare system and the marriage with a sick population
Also, as suddenly as you die, the better
Better not suck up much social assistance and make a effort to reverse those demographics
We have too much old people alive
Btw all social policies that you don't follow are made with your best interests in mind because you matter, you are an special and unique individual to our society
Love u
Say it with me: portions. POR TIONS
this. asians eat so little food it'd blow your mind. Though skinny people in the US skip meals, I've seen 110 lb college gymnast type girls put a whole 1.5lb chipotle burrito down. An average asian would never
Southeast asian girls are hot af. Skinny petite hot and sexy. They frick on the first date too at least in sea countries
When the US switched from fat to sugar because the experts were paid to tell lies, that screwed the society more than anything else except leaded gas.
Asian diet is rich in fish oil and plants. US diet is not rich in fats, it's rich in simple carbs (sugar) AND fat. Should be only complex carbs (plants) with meat (fat + protein).
go to Japan and date a girl. They drink heavily and the moment they gain one lb they begin training. They hire professionals, they cut sweets and beer. Then they just accept they have to be miserable internally. Then come back and watch your sister downs an entire bottle of vodka and chases it with fast food while also looking miserable.
both hate living, but one sees a lb as "great I'm a failure I need to change"
it's different women raised by different people.
If you get fat in Japan the moment you get home that woman will be hounding you about your gut and tossing out your beer like you are an alcoholic. Angry little c**ts
>If you get fat in Japan the moment you get home that woman will be hounding you about your gut and tossing out your beer like you are an alcoholic.
Absolutely fricking based.
I had no idea Japanese women are so amazing. I have to go to Japan.
>eat carbs/sugars alone = have energy for the day
>eat a lot of carbs/sugars In a day = store them as fat through lipogenesis
>eat carbs and protein = build muscle while having the energy to workout
>eat a lot of carbs and protein = build muscle while bulking
>eat carbs + fat = burn the carbs first then the fats because hyperglycemia is dangerous for literally every organ in your body, also repair mylen sheaths/brain/cell walls
>eat high carb + fat = burn the carbs and store the fat(same reason as above)
>only protein = protein poisoning
>eat fat + protein = build both muscle and repair brain but can't be as explosive with workouts, body makes glucose through gluconepgeneis with protein and fat of it deems necessary, consistent energy and no food comas because those are caused insulin inevitably overtakes glucose levels after a meal
max glycogen you can store is 600 grams
homosexual AI webm.
>muh theorem
Post body homosexual Black person
The "fat" in question is seed oil
This is a lie of course because SE Asians eat plenty of eggs, fish and pork; people from America eat cookies, McDonald's and pre-packaged food.