wrestlers look like the perfect athletes to me, they are strong and super athletic, what do they do for strength and conditioning? share a routine/ workout split
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Neck is way too thin in the anime one.
wrestling, bear walks, sprints, stretches, overhead pushups, endurance and explosivity/bodyweight shit as well as lifting
neck bridges drills lifting weights AFAIK im not a wrassler though
Frick tons of cardio and isometrics and calisthenics in addition to their grappling
some teams do the big 3 powerlifting style some others only do calisthenics
how do i into wrestling without going to college/highschool teams? is bjj the closest thing ?
There's a couple places that will do shoot wrestling. I live north of boston and can think of one.... 2, actually. Doughboy wrestling club, and blazing sun fitness if they're still around.
Judo is mostly Greco-Roman with a jacket on. Good for the stand up part. Bjj decent for the ground part, but wrestling is less about it being ok to be on your back and more the controlling top game. Lots of similarities and one will help with the other, but they're different.
As for training, if memory serves right, when training to win the gold, Kurt angle would cary people in different ways while doing uphill sprints pr something
If you go to a BJJ class, someone will be able to point you to an adult wrestling club.
My MMA gym has BJJ & wrestling.
To be honest, no.
I wrestled in the great state of Pennsylvania, went on to get a black belt in judo and also am a brown belt in bjj. Nothing compares to the conditioning needed for stand up grappling. BJJ is great, especially for people that never want to compete. But it doesn’t build you mentally or physically the way wresting and judo does. You’re probably over the age to find legitimate wrestling so you might find Judo. Here’s a rough outline of a normal 2 hour session in a competitive judo gym.
>warm up run, stretch and break falls for 20 minutes
>drill throws, takedowns and entrance speed for 30 minutes
>do some technique work 40 minutes
>do some grip fighting for 10 minutes
>randori (spar) for 20 minutes
In a normal class I was picking up a 200+lb man over 500 times. I would finish the throw roughly 50 times (throw every 10th fit) and would also be thrown around 50 times.
A lot of times after class we’d then do sprints or run carrying a partner. You just can’t run a normal bjj gym this way because most bjj coaches are a for profit business.
>BJJ is great, especially for people that never want to compete. But it doesn’t build you mentally or physically the way wresting and judo does.
Well said. I'm a BJJ blue belt and BJJ has not built my mental toughness even a little bit. I just started judo and feel that getting thrown over and over again is helping me handle pain and stay focused (breakfalling) like BJJ never did. I haven't tried wrestling but, at my last BJJ gym, the person with the best cardio was a wrestler.
Did you do the BJJ and Judo alongside each other or start one after having a decent belt in the other?
I doubt you picked up people 500 times a practice
BJJ is like Wrestling without the hard work. If you can hold yourself to a higher standard than everyone else in your dojo (ie. In addition to 3-6 nights a week of BJJ you also do 2-4 nights a week of strength & conditioning, as well as training cardio most days), then BJJ can absolutely be great for you. But honestly, most people who train BJJ are terrible athletes.
There is literally nothing that compares as others have said. Also it's just better to start young, for everyone's sake but especially your own. It was the single most physically demanding thing I've ever done. I'm not a pussy, made all state in football in high school and won lifting meets and track & field medals, rowing, tried Muay Thai and bjj. Nothing compares. Maybe guys in the military can say otherwise but probably not.
this is pretty much it. Wrestling is one of two predictors that someone will make it through special operations training. The other being from new England(cold?)
I believe it's any physical sport (hockey, football, wrestling , boxing etc)
What iz this?!? Where’s their $400 Gi?!?!
What heckin sorcery is dis?!?
This picture makes me horny. Please post more pictures of ripped wrestlers in action filled poses.
For whatever reason wrestling tends to attract the elite of the genetic elite. At least where I went to school. Just the most gifted mesomorphs. You can't read much into their training. They all look like that. The state champ wrestlers all went on to dominate whatever strength sport they focused on. One near me started powerlifting and he is nearly hitting John Hackk style numbers after like 2 years of training
I can confirm this, I started lifting 4 months ago and i can deadlift 270 kg. People make the mistake of thinking the sport makes the body but its the opposite. The body makes the sport.
>I started lifting 4 months ago and i can deadlift 270 kg.
That's like elite strongman beginner stats. You could go far if you wanted to lad.
>I started lifting 4 months ago and i can deadlift 270 kg.
lol no you can't
Why are American so fricking dumb? Holy shit.
Wrestling is full of roiders, elite genetics my ass
Lmao
read convict conditioning, thats sort of how they train
You don't care about their training, just their physiques and the answer is good genetics + roids.
I was a successful wrestler, pic rel in red. Wrestling practice is the hardest practice of any sport bar none. No other sport requires such a combination of strength and cardio. A 6 minute wrestling match is one of the most physically exhausting things you can imagine. It's on par with sprinting for 6 minutes. 100% of college wrestlers at Navy that aspire to become Navy Seals succeed. The training for wrestling is literally tougher that BUDS.
I’m pretty fricking sure that finishing an iron man is tougher than a wrestling match, anon.
You're comparing apples to oranges. Wrestling is far more taxing physically than running, swimming or cycling.
At the highest level swimming and gymnastics are harder than wrestling and it’s not close
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At the highest level swimming and gymnastics are harder than wrestling and it’s not close
Bwhahahahahahahahaha
swimming? frick off
>Swimming 4 hours every day before and after classes 10km plus every to the point your tendons and joints start getting fricked up
Yes, swimming is harder than 6 minute bouts where you get to rest constantly
Except when you're swimming, the water isn't trying to pin you with 100% of its strength.
>6 minute bouts where you get to rest constantly
Why do people pretend like they know the intensity of wrestling? You've never wrestled a day in your life before. Why are you posting in this thread?
I’ve done both water polo and wrestling and you are talking out your ass moron. Wrestling was by far more taxing and strenuous
>Wrestling practice is the hardest practice of any sport bar none.
Sumo might have you beat, but there's way more commitment in that.
The top sumo spend half their day eating and napping, they don't do the kind of cardio western wrestlers do
Tbf they don't really need to, they just need to train their bodies to be able to fight for those few seconds.
There are different definitions of "hard". Smashing yourself against a 300+ pound person repeatedly with no padding is fricking brutal
Also have to do volunteer work in your town to be able to collect all the donations of food. Also have to take the least amount of time off due to injuries so you can become the yokozuna. All while they still train 6+ hours daily. They probably get more overall cardio just by virtue of that
Guarantee you the people who replied to you to disagree have never spent even one second wrestling lol. Nice post.
This anon is correct. Wrestling practice is absolutely brutal, to the point I contemplated purposely breaking my foot to make it stop.
My school’s wrestling practice was such:
>6 am lift three days a week
>1 hour of cardio after school to start practice. This typically was a one mile run to warm up (7 minutes or under, or we had to do it again) followed by hill sprints, buddy carry’s, firemen’s carry, bear crawls up the hill, etc. Sometimes we would do longer runs that were typically 3 miles
>then we’d have about an hour of technique. This meant hard drilling with a partner.
>then we’d wrestle live (spar) for the last hour. Usually it was in Ironman format with one guy in the middle and has to wrestle four different guys back-to-back
>we’d end with 15 minutes of conditioning to mentally break us (burpees, squats, lunges, split squats, pull-ups, sprints)
Our school didn’t have tryouts. You either made it through hell week without quitting, or you quit and were done. This isn’t even taking into account the competitions themselves, which often required making weight 2-3 times a week
I’ve never experienced anything close to the intensity of a wrestling practice. I went to a few camps where we had a 6 am conditioning workout followed by 3 wrestling sessions a day for a week. Other camps are even crazier.
Trust this anon. Wrestling is no joke.
Did you guys settle your disputes in the locker room wearing speedos too?
In the showers usually. No speedos necessary
All this work to get blown out by the soviets.
Americans are truly something.
Russians work their asses off too bro. Check out Dagestan, those motherfrickers are crazy. Khabib is from there.
>why would you work hard when someone else works hard?
??? What does this even mean?
>all this to get beaten by Japan in the Olympics
Lol.... Americans....
obsessed
In the states it's more about getting to a good school on a free ride for most.
>first worlder kiddies think theyre tough shit
you would cry like a siphilitic b***h if you had to do one day of labor in a rural area
I did wrestling in high school, joined the army as an infantryman, and then did concrete work for a few years afterwards. An average wrestling practice was much harder than anything else I did when I wasn't deployed.
>joined the army
contraceptivist homosexual,join the taliban or isis or have a nice day with a frozen poop 50 kilos dumbells crushing your face
Sorry Aktar but ZOG pays better. Your Haqqani bros were cool though and I don’t blame them for the things they do.
how did you muster the willpower to NOT kill your drill officer?
if a fetishist power-tripper in uniform hurled the smallest insult at me I would try my darnest to bit off his nose
My drills were both respectable humans that treated us okay. Basic training is like adult day camp. It's honestly pretty fun.
>if a fetishist power-tripper in uniform hurled the smallest insult at me I would try my darnest to bit off his nose
Were these practices every day after school
This just unlocked a memory for me.
>be doing buddy carries in the hallways for practice
>my buddy was always a sperg
>every time we passed someone he would wind up and spank the dudes ass as hard as possible
Those practices were fricking brutal. I remember one meet we did so bad, the next practice we did over one thousand burpees.
Based, my lame country doesn't have wrestling nor teach the kids this level of discipline and hard work
>this level of
my uncle had cancer from smoking and he did a more demanding workout at 80
ok
We know bro you relative is tough. Now why would it be a bad idea to have kids go through something so formative as wrestling?
because every first worlder is a weak b***h who is sorely,gravely mistaken if he thinks he is something other-than a shit-stain upon humanity
>my uncle works outside so he does way harder exercises than kids in school
wow really impressive champ. no one cares.
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>Wrestling practice is the hardest practice
>The training for wrestling is literally tougher that BUDS
what the frick is in this super hard impossible practice?
and the wrestling gays replying jacking you off doesnt give me any insight at all
>ib4 its a lot of compound/bodyweight movement supersets
Wrestled in HS in a small division (Class S) public high school in New England. Really good program, though. Multiple kids won states for their weight class every year (never me), and the program won Class S Championships 2 of the 4 years I was there. I'd imagine it's more intense at big Mid Western schools.
Our practice was ~2.5hrs and scheduled like:
>30 minute warmup run @ 10 min pace. If a single person failed to keep a 10 min pace, the whole team got an extra 10 minutes of hard conditioning before moving to stretches.
>15 mins of dynamic stretching (front and neck bridges, cartwheels, etc.)
>60-80 mins of drilling different movements, some live wrestling mixed in.
>12 minutes live wrestling
>20 minutes of some kind of hard conditioning; running stairs, running suicides, burpees, run in place + sprawl, etc.; many opportunities for the whole team to earn additional hard conditioning if one or more persons were caught sandbagging or failing to meet expectations
If you have never wrestled before, you have absolutely 0 understanding of how immensely physically taxing it is. You really can't understand until you go and do it. Everything you're doing needs to be fast, precise, explosive, and violent - and there's another guy who weighs just as much as you trying his hardest to stop you from doing what you're trying to do, while simultaneously exploding at and attacking you.
pistol squats, handstand push ups, stand to stand bridges, weighted push ups, weighted pull ups
I train with a bunch of wrestlers. The answer is a shitload of steroids and a lot of strength training. In wrestling, you know what your season is gonna be like, so you mostly structure your training around the big competitions so that you get six to eight months a year to develop strength abd cardio, and two to four months prior to competition to make sure you get there in the best shape of your life.
The short of it is steroids and that these dudes are lifelong athletes who started preparing since childhood.
Lol bullshit. Russians are the only wrestlers that are roided, why are you lying on the internet? You don't train with wrestlers. The only wrestlers are high school kids, college wrestlers, and a small amount of adults who train at RTCs.
I was just at a regional tournament and there were at least 2 high schoolers who were for sure on some PEDs, one in the 220lb class, shredded, the other was in the 285 class and looked like he was maybe 20% bodyfat.
Are we expected to believe the american wrestling team is on par in terms of strength with the russians who are roided to the gills, but are all natty? Don't be moronic
>The only wrestlers are high school kids, college wrestlers, and a small amount of adults who train at RTCs
Nah, outside of the US that's bullshit. At least where I am, most wrestling is done at private facilities where you're pretty much seeing at least two national champions a week just getting their reps in.
You're quite certain for someone who clearly has not traveled the world. Plenty of wrestlers in New Zealand and Australia roid.
moron
compound lifts, cardio, steroids
but mostly it's because they get lean and dry as frick to make weight
wrestlers who compete in the 120s walk around in the 150s+, it's insane
Lots and lots of high intensity cardio. Cardiovascular endurance is the mainstay of the sport.
When I was wrestling a lot of guys would do general weightlifting, but the vast majority of a wrestler's strength training is just from wrestling other people. We would be wrestling each other every day for three to four hours.
what do they do for cardio?
Jog half a lap, sprint half a lap, jog half a lap, sprint half a lap (repeat for like an hour). I'm not a wrestler but I've seen them do it before.
honestly, most of it was just a shit ton of running without stopping for 45 minutes
but also alternating sprints on the track like the other anon said, line touch sprints, running the bleachers, box jumps (which we usually did on the bleachers), jumping rope
take a simple cardio like jumping rope, but don't stop for 30 minutes
thats just straight up boring
If it's boring, you're not doing it hard enough, lmao.
no one said it wouldn't be, it's pragmatic, simple, and free
You stupid frick this is why you don’t have the body you want. Like weigh lifting is exciting. It’s about the experience to push your bodies limit imbecile.
if I was already an endurance sprinter (800m), what training do I need to prepare for wrestling shape? What lifting/calisthenic routine did you guys follow?
>What lifting/calisthenic routine did you guys follow?
Just find a basic calisthenics routine and you'll be fine. they're a dime a dozen online
if you want to train wrestling, then you're just going to have to find a wrestling club and wrestle. there's really no other way to go about it
Another thing that people dont get is that you will NEVER be able to train hard enough alone. You need buddies to push your limits and coaches who will get the sick satisfaction of making you want to puke
Wrestling other people for hours IS the cardio
Need to remember, in addition to training, wrestling selects for these kinds of physiques. Just as basketball selects for height
Every US team trains differently, some lift, some do BWEs, some even do machines. Russians basically all do rubber bands and hitting tires with sledgehammers. But most training is simply live wrestling. They also like lifting their training partners.
Source: Talked to a lot of wrestlers
wreslters get strong from literally wrestling each other all day every day - pushing and pulling constantly.
then they are always cutting weight, so they are low bf.
so its the perfect sport, except for striking. they need some boxing, and then a small amount of bjj for fending off submissions
i was in a frat in college with wrestlers, and tey were tough guys, and had lots of sex (with women)
They do weight training, usually strength focus with barbells but also a lot wrestling which us explosive full body movements throwing another human around. I am unable to think of anything in a gym that can replicate this. Maybe sandbag training csn be similar but that's still not going to cut it
>I am unable to think of anything in a gym that can replicate this.
bugz suggestss this:
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In order to be a wrestler you had to have grown up next to a nuclear power plant or test side.
I started BJJ this year but definitely want to get on the level of absolute explosive power of wrestlers.
Hoping we get some solid advice.
Anyone had experience learning to wrestle after college?
>guys bicep as big as thigh
roids
Does anyone here think that wrestling is good for a street fight?
I don't know why it wouldn't be. But I do know all wrestlers I know would fight anyone if challenged. Boxers, not so much.
Anything that simulates combat is good for combat, anon.
the wrestlers i was around were just tough motherfrickers, and used to battling daily, - so basically the monsters were just monsters and could beat people up and be alpha and kick people's ass. of course not all wrestlters are like that. but of course they're missing strikring, but they can always just grab a guy and smash him down. most kids around college r not boxers or fightrers and so being a monster wrestler makes you different. this was only D3 and kids were like that, i can only imagine what d1 wresters were like
>Does anyone here think that wrestling is good for a street fight?
It works well in the US; it's a death sentence in Europe because many people here are doing martial arts and combat sports. Just recently, we had one wrestler getting one shotted by a bouncer (wrestler died) and another getting the shit kicked out of him by a group of youths (wrestler basically had his face bones completely broken). And let#s not forget that one junior Euro freestyle champ getting killed in a fight against a gypsy or 2.
So, depends where you're from. Americans generally can't fight bc they are not interested in it (you guys have weapons available, after all), so wrestling alone will get you far. Everywhere else - not so much.
>a bouncer(a degenerate shit-muncher who protects libertine rioters and prevents the proper corrective rape of inmodest young women) beats you
I would commit seppuku with a chainsaw
post something
>in Europe because many people here are doing martial arts and combat sports.
lol why would you go on the internet and make things up? Martial arts are just as common in the US than Europe.
What he means to say mmgay and wrestling has rules. Real life, not so much.
That's not at all what his post is about.
i wrestled all throughout hs at a pretty well renowned program (even though i was pretty average)
in season we'd lift 3x a week in the morning monday - Wednesday - friday before school then practice for 2 1/2 three hours after school. after about 15 min of warmup (jogging, bear crawls, front flips, cartwheels, shot practice) we'd do technique traning for about an hour hour and a half and then we'd do live drills for another hour or so before 30 min of intense cardio. The live drills were incredibly intense as well and a form of cardio on their own. After practice id bike 15-30 min in full sweats to cut weight, while other people would do sprints/suicides/more live drills.
the training is an incredibly intense mix of cardio/strength. thats why most of them get fat after finishing the sport bc they eat like theyre still burning calories that way.
a lot of the drills we would do involve explosive movements (getting to your feet while someone is trying to break you down to your elbows from your hands & knees, practicing sprawling, or a quick takedown and letting someone back up) its exhausting and requires strength.
Ive been lifting pretty moderately for about two years now and weigh a good 60 pounds heavier than i did in hs and i still think hs me in peak wrestling shape would kick current mes ass.
I have a questions maybe you wrestlers can help me with. My gf has lewd-texted saying she fantasizes about me raping her, specifically pushing her on her back, forcing her legs apart, and having my way with her. We've play wrestled before and I don't know how to pry her legs apart easily when she holds them shut- even though I'm IST I don't know any sort of grappling technique to give myself some mechanical advantage over her thighs to get into half mount. I tried looking up BJJ videos but found nothing, it seems most guys on the bottom actually want to be in half guard so they're not trying to keep the attacker away by shutting their legs.
I realize how rapey this all sounds, but whatever.
shove your knee directly in between the meat of her thighs. that will pry them apart enough for you to get your hands in there and then you just yank her legs open.
t. rapist
What a place IST is.
i am indeed quite based
Thanks friend
I was thinking I should grab her feet and pull her legs straight out away from her then basically do a lateral raise motion to force them apart, with her feet at maximum distance from her hips that should give me as much mechanical advantage as possible. The knee thing would work but that could hurt her, I think she just wants to be overpowered.
Well then it’s really not rape. Tell your b***h to get her fantasy straight. Dumb b***h doesn’t even know how she wants to get man handled.
Oh and I meant to add when we have rolled around before I tried prying her thighs open and it was like trying to pry open iron bars, no good leverage against them that close to the hips. Mirin her hip adductors.
The reason rapists can frick their victims is because they beat the shit out of them and threaten them with murder. To parrallell this to your situation, keep wrestling her until she's exhausted then she's all yours. You do have better cardio then her... right? None of this 'im tired anon try again later' literally the opposite of her 'fantasy'.
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Sled bear crawls, deficit snatch high pull and heavy chin ups
Where my heavy weight homies @???
spoken like a true 106
:'(
Sum but I've been mogged before (I'm a 5'9 manlet with no ceps)
Damn bro, you look pretty athletic and lean for a heavyweight. Do you mogg kids typically?
If it wasn't for all the wrestling with sweaty men, wrestling would be based.
They buy a small calf and carry him around. He grows stronger as the calf grows.
Mud wrestling is key sirs!!!
you just know 10% of that mud is shit
>Cardio kills gains
>Can't lose fat and gain muscle at the same time
>High reps don't give you muscles
So wrestlers basically debunk all these memes, correct?
>>High reps don't give you muscles
Not sure about this one. I think comparing an intense wrestling session to 3x12 sets of bench presses is fallacious.
To train at a pro level for wrestling, like any other pro sport, you need to recover. So that you can be ready to train again and again ..either you rest ie do little to nothing/physio massage in between sessions, have an off season and/or steroids.
My dad was a wrestler in high school. He focused on shoulders and back, and you never want to do too much on legs. Long legs are also a detriment
Is 27 as a 5'9, 160 lb dyel with no physical contact sport experience at all (and shit cardio) a bad idea to get into wrestling? Be honest with me lads
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No. Everyone starts somewhere, just fricking do it and stop procrastinating
There are great wrestling schools were I am. Loads of Olympic champions.
37 boomer. 20 years experience in judo and later mma.
Always tempted by wrestling. Wrestle bros, would it be too dangerous to do it for fun and learn tecniques?
Cardio is basically the only thing we did in highschool. Cardio > practice > cardio > spars > cardio. Gotta make weight after all. Lifting was done at our "own" time but it was highly encouraged that the wrestling team change one of our electives into weight lifting
They wrestle ya dipshit.
We do 2* full body like
A: Squats, Bench, Row
B:DL, OHP, KZ
And 3* Wrestling.
Warm-up
gymnastic
techique
sparring
Cool down
Trainers are offen russians or from Bulgaria
Cardio is up to yourself.
2. highest division and highest division in german
>We do 2* full body like
A: Squats, Bench, Row
B:DL, OHP, KZ*^*
*^* KZ = ???
quite easy to figure out that it means pullup/chinups in german as it's the one exercise remaining thst fits this perfect split
Manlets.
stop arguing someone post an example training program
when you think about it wrestling is all pushing and pulling and using your legs, always with all your strength. you'll get a pretty complete physique that way
I like women wrestlers
>just turned 18
bros..
Ok here's a redpill
You can join any martial art and train like you were on a wrestling team. For example , go to bjj five days a week, roll after class for half hour and doing strength training and cardio multiple times a week. You have the option, but most people won't do that. Most people have the option, but chose to train bjj In a light way. Nobody is forcing you to train hard like a wrestling team coach would, nobody is forcing you to spar hard in boxing or mauy Thai but the option is there. If you aren't, then that's probably cause you don't really wanna put in the work necessary. Yes a coach might be what you need to push you, but you can push yourself. It's harder for alot of people without the coach, but again you can chose to train any martial art just as hard.
>will never train hard and be cool
damn, sucks to be a genetic deadend and failure