How is it that the ancients, who were most likely NOT consuming 250 grams of protein a day, and no access to advanced gym equipment, were able to achi...

How is it that the ancients, who were most likely NOT consuming 250 grams of protein a day, and no access to advanced gym equipment, were able to achieve these physiques?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    lol fukken dyels

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      fpbp
      twink physiques

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Because you don't need 250g of protein

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This. The bar for nutrition and fitness søyence is so low and basically amounts of clickbait and how much certain companies are willing to pay nutritional journalists and even researchers. Protein supplements are a multibillionaire dollar market. They are banking on the fact that people believe they need their sucralose powder in order to get in shape. Protein is definitely important but you can get all the protein you need from a good sized meal 3-4 times a day.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    they were cum guzzlers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This and calisthenics

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      But if they all guzzle each other's cum the amount of protein in the system remains constant. Where does the protein consumed to build muscle actually come from?

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    marble sculptures were the instagram of the ancient and medieval period. They were idealised versions of what someone looked like. I doubt they are one on one depictions of these peoples bodies. The ancient who werent elite soldiers or warriors on that barley bulk diet probably looked more like someone who bouldered at best.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How is it that the Japanese, who most likely share more DNA with other Asians, have such big eyes?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      they didn't need fucking peer reviewed studies to notice what has been working over thousands of years

      those are statues of athletes who were high test and literally trained for a living

      How is that the people who occupied modern-day Willendorf during the paleolithic, who most likely did not have access to a lot of food, were so fat?

      How is that American women, despite having a stomach and lungs, are able to achieve this waistline?

      eternal dyel hands typed this
      post physiques

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm not posting a picture of my chiseled body for some fagget to jack off to

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How is that the people who occupied modern-day Willendorf during the paleolithic, who most likely did not have access to a lot of food, were so fat?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Man's cave dwelling ancestors were architects

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That was found in a trash pile though

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I heard some historian say they were sculpted by women looking down at their own bodies.
      I choose to believe it because the idea that even neolithic women were constantly asking "am I fat" is funny to me.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Kek

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You do realize that's not what they actually looked like, it's a sculptures idealized version.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Some presumably must have looked like that for sculptors at the time to have enough of a frame of reference to make their sculptures. Some of those ancient sculptures are pretty accurate to what a really awoke guy would look like, they resemble modern day steroid users. My guess is that a few elite athletes or soldiers in the ancient world were genuinely swole, possibly the fact that the ancients were manlets helped as well

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        moron you're telling me that perfect anatomical detail is bc some sculpture imagined big muscles would look like that? Kys

        retarded

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Mad cause wrong

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        moron you're telling me that perfect anatomical detail is bc some sculpture imagined big muscles would look like that? Kys

        Stupid people will probably be saying the same thing about Hulk movies in 3000yrs

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          But it's true, you midwit. You wouldn't be able to design the Hulk without ever having seen a roided out guy

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nobody could, with our understanding of human anatomy, possibly extrapolate that to a freakish extreme far beyond bodybuilders without having seen one?
            Does someone need to have a 3 foot penis for someone to draw a 9 foot penis?
            I think you vastly underestimate the innate creativity of the human brain.

        • 2 months ago
          Sage

          Yeah ancient Greek sculptors were just opening up their anatomy text books to see muscle insertions and just perfectly guessing at what large muscles would look like in situations. While someone today can sculpt from reference ancients had no reference

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      moron you're telling me that perfect anatomical detail is bc some sculpture imagined big muscles would look like that? Kys

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The truth is that they used multiple models, different models for each body part. They'd model the lats after someone who rowed the ship, the calves of a sprinter, shoulders of a discus thrower, etc. You'd have a patchwork of guys who had the most aesthetic genetics in one part of the body and piece them together to make a perfectly aesthetic man. Through art they could concieve of someone with low body fat, tons of muscle and great insertions but that doesn't mean everybody looked like that. This is also how they invented homosexuality

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I am sorry but you are retarded. What do you think, that people in Ancient Greece were monstrosities, each one unique due to a different muscle portruding and almost popping out of their skin?

          https://i.imgur.com/scKxlJS.jpg

          How is it that the ancients, who were most likely NOT consuming 250 grams of protein a day, and no access to advanced gym equipment, were able to achieve these physiques?

          Read the book Arete. I've talked about it a few times, but I am on the shitter and in no mood to write a huge essay for someone who'a potentially writing just a shitpost

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      retarded

      [...]
      Stupid people will probably be saying the same thing about Hulk movies in 3000yrs

      The Greeks were not only ripped, they was FUCKING ripped. Pretty much every Greek philosopher, poet, tragedian, and so on would have been, because they were all adult male citizens, and either had to fight in the army or (later) row in the fleet. Or both.

      People underestimate the level of physical exertion these things required. These guys worked out EVERY day. They lived to work out. Their entire leisure time was composed of working out and getting gay over how hot their bods were in the balmy Mediterranean sun. The first ten fucking pages in Plato's FIRST dialogue have Socrates lusting over a teenager's sweaty, manly pecs through his toga. Socrates likens himself to a lion that is about to gobble up its prey. That is how the Western philosophical tradition starts: homoerotic lust for ripped abs. When Alcibiades, the manliest man in history, bursts into the famous drinking party, at which the guests are discussing the urbane topic of Love, it is to ask Socrates why he never fucked him in the ass when they cuddled. You know how the dialogue ends? Socrates goes to the gym and works out.

      Modern recreations and reconstructions have not even succeeded in duplicating the physical feats reported of the Athenian soldiery. Often, modern historians doubt that these feats are even being accurately reported, for instance the straight dash of the Athenian army across the entire field at Marathon. This is because modern athletes and bodybuilders can't even do these things, even with relatively light gear compared to what the Athenians actually carried. It took a team of Olympic master rowers to even APPROXIMATE the sailing techniques of the Athenian fleet, outside of combat conditions, on a placid sea. The entire Athenian fleet was regularly capable of these maneuvers, season after season, year after year, campaign after campaign. The sole engine of these maneuvers was muscle. Raw, sweaty, heaving Athenian muscle.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        ancient greeks were basically all ISTizens. just thinking about big muscles and hot twinks.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >It took a team of Olympic master rowers to even APPROXIMATE the sailing techniques of the Athenian fleet
        How much of this was verified and how much of this was propaganda? Was this one of those cases the same as British longbow archers that got "malformed" because they practiced bow shooting from the moment they could basically walk?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        save this someone screenshot it

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          bro it's already a pasta

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Dubs don't lie

      • 2 months ago
        Sage

        And after the battle of Marathon when the remaining Persians had fled to their ships. The entire Athenian army practically ran marched back to Athens to head those ships off. That's the actual story of the marathon. Look it up friends in actual history books and Herodotus. The story of the guy running and dying is not the actual origin

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Even better, the guy from the legend actually ran to Sparta (240km) in one and a half days.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spartathlon

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            wow, I never knew that
            my dad is an ultra runner at 52 the most he did was 170 km in the mountains, but I wouldn't wanna have his body, he's rail thin and 6%bf

            Bara hentai character body

            the sole fact that you know about the existence and name of such a thing suggests to me that you spend way too much on the internet and cooming

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Look it up friends in actual history books and Herodotus.

          Herodotus' stories are the ancient equivalent of greentexting a story that is 60-80% fiction because you think it sounds funny or cool

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The EXPERTS said Herodotus is an unreliable source!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Incredible pasta

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Always a good pasta kek

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        based and greekpilled

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Is there any evidence that the Greeks actually had gay anal sex? Or did they just lust after the male aesthetic? I mean I'm sure some of them did, but I'm wondering what the general norm about this sort of thing was back then.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How is that American women, despite having a stomach and lungs, are able to achieve this waistline?

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Some of them probably were consuming that much protein.
    https://www.medievalists.net/2020/11/medieval-europeans-meat-consumption/
    >At almost 280 pounds of meat per person per year (including children and infants), the average daily consumption was 12 ounces per capita. (for Barcelona inhabitants in 1462.) controlling for children and wealth distribution there were probably plenty of people eating far more than that.
    >In one early-15th-century English aristocratic household for which detailed records are available (that of the Earl of Warwick), members of the household received a staggering 3.8 pounds (1.7 kg) of assorted meats in a typical meat meal in the autumn and 2.4 pounds (1.1 kg) in the winter
    Granted, not everybody ate like this, but then again not everybody looked like that.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >members of the household received a staggering 3.8 pounds (1.7 kg) of assorted meats in a typical meat meal in the autumn
      Each person received 1.7 kg or 1.7 kg were divided among them?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Superior med genetics

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >How is it that the ancients, who were most likely NOT consuming 250 grams of protein a day, and no access to advanced gym equipment, were able to achieve these physiques?
    Protein consumption is the backlash of trying to be lean after centuries of elevating fatness as a hallmark of high status

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you can't laze around especially in a hunter gatherer society
      gaslighting industrialist

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        lazing about meaning sitting completely still watching a screen
        hunter gathers were constantly active

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Genetic outliers eating a lot of fish.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Warriors and Olympic athlets looked like that. At least some. Gym(nasium) is a Greek invention.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >not knowing the master race north mediterranean diet

    poor anglogarden gnomes...

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    easily achievable with a couple months of lifting

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They weren't making statues of poor people...

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Most food was more nutrient dense back then

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >he knows about the rapid decline in micronutrient content of food in the last few decades
      I'm calling the fucking CIA.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They put the garden gnomes in there place, goyslop wasn't a thing yet.

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    manual labor, walking, and a balanced diet

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bro, they were 5'7" and 150lbs average. A big dude was maybe 185lbs.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    they had healthy androgen levels, nutrion and training are secondary to hormonal homeostasis (the fact that the commercial fitness industry vehemently goes against this speaks for itself)

    OP pic is what a healthy man's baseline muscle mass without a training regiment or special diet looks like

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    mirin hard

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    1. Protein requirements for bulking are a fucking meme stemming from bad math, almost noone needs more than 100g protons, most need less
    2.

    2. Really high testosterone from sex and war all the time

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      post body

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Protein requirements for bulking are a fucking meme stemming from bad math, almost noone needs more than 100g protons

      I second that, in my experience you don't need nearly as much unless you're trying to be a pro bodybuilder and got the roids to even utilize this intake

      Natural Hypertrophy talks about that, check that out

      post body

      not him but there you go, I never in my life cared about super high protein intake, naturally about 90 - 150 grams a day
      >inb4 fake natty
      no I'm not

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        thread lurker here, im listening to this guy

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Routine?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          did strict powerlifting for several years while at uni and freestyle wrestling for about 6 years, now I do a 4 day loose routine based around building strenght in the big three with an additional strenght move in rotation so Bench, Deadlift, Squat and on the fourth day OHP, Weighted Chinup etc.
          Each workout focuses on the compound and 3-5 accessories done in higher volumes but still directed at strenght and progressive overload.
          I also stick to the freestyle wrestling still, but not competitively

          My number 1 advice - any natty should focus on strenght and progressive overload but not in an autistic SS 5x5 manner

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        damn that's a really good natty
        also is that an ouroboros pendant?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          thanks

          [...]
          or Jörmugandr because of the norse cross I guess

          it's this one, a combination of both I guess

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            it is a great accessoire, pagan larping is better when it is a bit subtle like yours instead of wearing a full Heathen Hammer

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              yeah, that's true, the fuckin hammer makes anyone look like an ass
              but I don't wear mine for pagan reasons

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        damn that's a really good natty
        also is that an ouroboros pendant?

        or Jörmugandr because of the norse cross I guess

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bara hentai character body

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    these statues are not 1:1 copies of their bodies but ideal versions of them. ancient day photoshop

    >yo bro make a statue of me
    >make it ripped tho haha
    >I pay extra

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >How is it that the ancients, who were most likely NOT consuming 250 grams of protein a day, and no access to advanced gym equipment, were able to achieve these physiques?
      Protein consumption is the backlash of trying to be lean after centuries of elevating fatness as a hallmark of high status

      Yeah it’s just photoshop bro lol.
      The environment which includes food/water/air has become poison to our species. The modern lifestyle with lights/stress makes us weak.
      If you think the abo’s in that pic look even slightly ottermode with no focused resistance training then imagine what they would look like with better genetics, devoted time for calisthenics daily, and eating a bit more.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't get why some guys always think that being in a good shape is something exclusive to contemporaries. Is it because of marketing tricks around supplements, roids and gyms? I don't know.
      Yes, it's art. Yes, the statues are made to look good. And yes, people always had the ability to build muscle and be in a low bodyfat percentage. We also know that ancient greeks had a culture of working out and valuing highly their athletes.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >who were most likely NOT consuming 250 grams of protein a day
    you don't need that much and you can easily consume 100-200 grams in meat if you're rich or have a rich patron which was probably the case for top athletes.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You are mistaken, you are comparing the common people with aristocrats and not realizing they had different access to food and activities.

    An aristocrat could easily be consuming a very high protein diet at the time, and it would likely be seen as a luxury so it would be more prestigious to have it. They also had abilities to workout in many different ways and played sports which over a long period of time could get some to have better physiques than your photo.

    Of course if you are talking about the common slave it’s less likely, but for aristocrats that had a big sport culture it is easy.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Healthy thoughts
    Healthy words
    Healthy deeds

    No longer possible as a natural output of the way modernity allows your lifestyle. That's why if you look like this now you're generally an exception to the norm.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    because large protein consumption is a meme

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    is this one of those simp for the past threads where idiots make them out to be marvel superheros lol

    i bet they also think the guy in the northman is a legit body a viking could have achieved back then

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      so a tall actor can achieve it but a tall Viking fighting and killing everything in sight couldn't? Are you mentally retarded?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        he used roids to get that body lol. thats well beyond his genetic peak if he trained for 5+ years. vikings were not fighting pitched battles every day you stupid fuck. why are you people so hollywood brain dead?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          they did extremely physical tasks like rowing for hours on end, hunting, chopping wood, digging, building etc.
          I don't doubt that skarsgard used roids for the role, that doesn't mean their weren't Vikings that couldn't get to that size, the amount of inadvertent upper body training they would have done would be immense.
          He's not even THAT big, just very ripped and tall, he does admittedly have big traps, but that's the only stand out thing apart from his height and how lean he is.
          You haven't discovered some secret being like
          >HURR DURR HE ROIDED!
          you we know but there will be Vikings that were ripped you child.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Forgot pic, he looks great, but this was achievable but (some genetically predisposed) Vikings.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >they did extremely physical tasks like rowing for hours on end, hunting, chopping wood, digging, building etc.

            that barely builds anything... at best they were skinny, had ok backs, and some traps for all the carrying they did. this is exactly what you people call dyel day in day out you're just simps for the past and consider them supermen lol

            no it's not you dumbass
            this physique is very achievable natty, he had literally the perfect lighting provided by the filmcrew and did all his shirtless scenes with full pump, plus he trained for years before that

            you bros keep talking about the genetic natural peaks while clearly having zero understanding about how they work and having achieved less than 20% of your own potential

            please post body and prove me wrong

            he was already working out for years during true blood lol. he doesn't have a great build for putting on muscle. he roided lmao

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Your using a pic of him basically untrained to prove what?
              You think the Vikings didn't lift heavy shit like boulders, big game, logs among loads of other shit you mong?
              You think they didn't train in battling eachother?
              Fucking hell man shut up

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                why would they be picking up large boulders...? the only reason i can see them picking up things like that are for digging a well or moving it to build a house, but you realize that there is this thing called breaking up larger boulders and moving them in smaller pieces right? do you think they had some large boulder SS routine...?

                >Working out for years during true blood
                Says who?
                He's 6ft 4. I garauntee he looks exactly like that with basically no weight training what so ever

                you can google more pics but thats also him without good lighting to make him look larger

                >that barely builds anything

                Yes of course, everyone knows lumberjacks were twinks.

                people of the past were not cutting down huge trees day in day out. read a book

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you keep talking all that shit, but post no body
                what's with that?
                is it because you don't gave a physique worth showing?
                If that's so then how come you know so much about physical training?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                do a proper viking workout then. do farmer carries, row a lot, and do some swinging movements with light weight because axes don't weigh jack shit lol. think you're gonna get big off of that?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Literally fucking yes
                everything you say makes it more and more obvious that you have no practical idea about anything related to training your body

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                bro he's literally not that big in this picture
                go to any track and field meet and you'll see ten guys with this physique

                b8, you're a dyle so blame every good body on roids, keep coping.

                hes on roids, deal with it sissies

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                you are a jelly, coping dyel, deal with it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you can google more pics but thats also him without good lighting to make him look larger
                He was built exactly the same way before true blood. Cope harder

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >its totally not roids

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                bro he's literally not that big in this picture
                go to any track and field meet and you'll see ten guys with this physique

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                b8, you're a dyle so blame every good body on roids, keep coping.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ancient Icelanders trained with stones. The same for Brits and Scandis. This is known fact. Also it has been proven that medieval farmers had the bodies of modern day athletes. I think you are coping because the thought that things might actually be worse now scares you so much.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              How does it feel to look at those strong trained bodies while at the same time being being the epitome of weakness and spending your days trying to infect people with your defeatism?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Working out for years during true blood
              Says who?
              He's 6ft 4. I garauntee he looks exactly like that with basically no weight training what so ever

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >that barely builds anything

              Yes of course, everyone knows lumberjacks were twinks.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          no it's not you dumbass
          this physique is very achievable natty, he had literally the perfect lighting provided by the filmcrew and did all his shirtless scenes with full pump, plus he trained for years before that

          you bros keep talking about the genetic natural peaks while clearly having zero understanding about how they work and having achieved less than 20% of your own potential

          please post body and prove me wrong

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      As for their physiques there is nothing superhero about them, they are aesthetic proportion'd maxxed but as for their muscle mass they are good lean athletes that have been working out for their whole life.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look at Ronny Coleman and Dorian before they roided, they were fucking massive, and if they got nerfed in ancient times they had a physique like those statues. They are 0.001% of the population but they existed. They made statues of those people, not some random dyel peasant who would look even shittier than a 2 years novice in modern times.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >who were most likely NOT consuming 250 grams of protein a day,
    are you so sure about that?

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >250grams

    If you need that much protein you're either 6'10 or a fat fuck!
    Also, they were much more active than you and for a lot longer

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do those guys look 250lbs lean? They don't need that much protein and most people don't but people competing for Mr O

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They were lean and led active lives, maybe farm work, moving stones, hunting animals, digging running walking almost everyday for most of their lives, unlike how ppl live these days, Its not complicated.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    they didnt have sugarcane. Really very little sugar at all.

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pounding bussy, running, push ups, squats and practicing the phalanx. Thats how they got that body

    Sources: trust me bro

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They were active essentially every day.

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