Shoulder abduction (the movement you perform during a lateral raise) is the opposite of shoulder adduction, which is performed by the lats and teres major. Shoulder adduction is a very large component of wide grip pullups/pulldowns, both of which are pulling exercises. Therefore, because shoulder abduction is the opposite movement, it is a push.
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Since muscles can only contact, all lifts are a pull. You dumb fucking retard. You slimy ignorant fucking dumb dumb. You drooling imbecile. You sloppy clown. There are raises, extensions, rows, and presses. But there are never any fucking pulls. Only the most deranged antisocial midwit would think the way you do. I will pray to God for your swift and painful demise
You moronic troglodyte, push is shorthand for presses and extensions, aka movements where by contraction of the muscles the load is moved away from the center of mass during the concentric, unlike pulls which are the opposite. >there are no pulls
Vertical pulls would like to disagree illiterate fuck. Ever heard of them? Filthy peasant has never done pull-ups in his life; many such cases!
>all lifts are a pull
joints either extend or flex. movements which cause joint extension are pushes. and movements which involve joint flexion are pulls.
bench press is a push because it involves elbow extension.
barbell rows are pulls because they involve elbow flexion
Also why is the serratus anterior highlighted in the pic but the upper traps aren't? I have never seen anyone claim that they can feel their serratus during lateral raises but I constantly hear people complaining about their upper traps somehow taking over the movement lol
True but lateral raises only complete one of the serratus' functions (scapula upward rotation) while completing both of the upper trap's functions (scapula upward rotation and elevation) so the upper traps logically would be more active during the movement.
Shoulder abduction (the movement you perform during a lateral raise) is the opposite of shoulder adduction, which is performed by the lats and teres major. Shoulder adduction is a very large component of wide grip pullups/pulldowns, both of which are pulling exercises. Therefore, because shoulder abduction is the opposite movement, it is a push.
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shut up nerd no one asked
>no one asked
OP literally asked you dumb fuck, are you illiterate? Outta here retard peasant
wow so mean ;_;
baste
CALM THE FUCK DOWN
Op didn't ask there's no question mark
Sentence is formatted as a question so that's irrelevant
Keyed
Calm down with that tiny dick energy, nerd. Fucking incel.
>coping peasant tries to use vulgar smears against his superior
Keep seething, maybe one day you'll be able to be more than outdated farming equipment
boost yourself moron
Since muscles can only contact, all lifts are a pull. You dumb fucking retard. You slimy ignorant fucking dumb dumb. You drooling imbecile. You sloppy clown. There are raises, extensions, rows, and presses. But there are never any fucking pulls. Only the most deranged antisocial midwit would think the way you do. I will pray to God for your swift and painful demise
You moronic troglodyte, push is shorthand for presses and extensions, aka movements where by contraction of the muscles the load is moved away from the center of mass during the concentric, unlike pulls which are the opposite.
>there are no pulls
Vertical pulls would like to disagree illiterate fuck. Ever heard of them? Filthy peasant has never done pull-ups in his life; many such cases!
>all lifts are a pull
joints either extend or flex. movements which cause joint extension are pushes. and movements which involve joint flexion are pulls.
bench press is a push because it involves elbow extension.
barbell rows are pulls because they involve elbow flexion
Also why is the serratus anterior highlighted in the pic but the upper traps aren't? I have never seen anyone claim that they can feel their serratus during lateral raises but I constantly hear people complaining about their upper traps somehow taking over the movement lol
Because people are stupid and it literally doesn't matter what you think you feel
True but lateral raises only complete one of the serratus' functions (scapula upward rotation) while completing both of the upper trap's functions (scapula upward rotation and elevation) so the upper traps logically would be more active during the movement.
Doing a pushing motion yes?
Pushing up against gravity?
Also shit first post said about shoulders.
Every single lift is a pull exercise. Muscles can only contract and pull on themselves.
because youre pushing yourself to become better
>duh
Because you're moving the weight away from your body, not pulling it towards your body
What benefit even is there to do lu flies over lateral raises?
dunno
HOW TF DO I STOP MY TENDONS FROM HURTING WHEN I DO THIS EXERCISE?
Fix your bicep tendonitis
ask them kindly
Any other non machine exercise for mid delts?
Thanks!
lu raises, behind the neck press
It's a raise exercise, not push. Let me guess, you don't have a raise day?
>these are the DYEL resolutioners giving fitness advice on IST
ackxchually every exercise is a 'pulling' one since muscles only can exert force by contracting