Has anybody found any success in quitting alcohol? Preferably without needing to join an AA.
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Has anybody found any success in quitting alcohol? Preferably without needing to join an AA.
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Why would you want to stop drinking?
It's ruining my lifting and my life.
Empty calories
Either something in your life is shit or you're treating it like a good thing
act accordingly for either scenario
Go back in time and make your mother a bipolar then get her hooked on booze
Move forward in time and make sure your dad isn't a b***h who accepts this
Have siblings who recognize how disgusting alcoholics are
Develop a hatred for people who are intoxicated in public, who aren't at a place filled with loved ones attending a gathering specifically for the consumption of alcohol.
Never drink past the age of 22 because you don't like it.
Works every time.
I never drank before. Never saw the appeal.
It's fun.
IST trannitors banned me for druk posting
I'm drunk rite now.
Found the israelite
Just set an amount you are allowed drink and days for when you can drink. I drink Tuesday and Fridays. Three pints of beer each time. Works for me
Its relaxing
Congrats on the weight loss. I need to lose about 50 pounds also.
If you're able to stop before blacking out that means you aren't an alcoholic.
If you drink everyday for months on end and it affects your life negatively you probably are an alcoholic imo. Just not as bad off as (you). Either way learning to drink in moderation is the end goal since never drinking ever again is an unrealistic goal if you look at the statistics.
I stopped drinking about six months ago. The first thing I did was to get rid of any alcohol I had. I asked a nephew to stay with me for a couple of nights in case I wanted to get drunk. Those nights I couldn’t sleep but it got better.
Depending on the severity of your alcoholism it can be easier or harder. What I did was to replace my drinking with something close to what I used to drink but without alcohol. I usually started to drink at 6pm, so instead of preparing myself my usual whiskey with mineral water and apple soda I skipped the whiskey. You need to do mostly the same you did but without alcohol.
If I have a strong desire to drink I start remembering the hangovers, the stupid drunk discussions, the stupid things I did because I was drunk, the things I’ve missed for being drunk or hungover.
It’s not easy, but your body will thank you. No more restless nights, no more missed or bad workouts because you drank, no more remorse because you acted stupid when you were drunk, you will have more money and your health will improve.
Also another thing that is recommend to do is to remember when you were a kid. You didn’t drank then and still you could enjoy a party or being with your friends, why then is alcohol necessary to enjoy such things?
I hope you can do it, it’s hard but not impossible. Relapses can happen but do not overthink it. Like a missed rep, you simply adjust and go back to the gym and try again.
>the stupid drunk discussions, the stupid things I did because I was drunk, the things I’ve missed for being drunk or hungover.
im also about 4 months clean, i still remember some of the dumb shit i did in the middle of the night, even though most of the very "stupid" stuff was over 2 years ago.
I have the opposite problem. When I got out drinking, I'm the luckiest guy on planet earth. I can say anything I want to any girl and it works. I can go to casino and I'll walk out hundreds of dollars ahead. When I'm not buzzed, I'm like a complete loser or something, and somehow do more regrettable things as well. I think there might just be a sweet spot of drinking the right amount, but being able to not drink a few days during the week and keeping your bac at the right rate when you are.
They made a movie about this. The lives people who tried it slowly spiralled out of control though, because moderation doesn't work.
I might have plagiarized that movie in the second part of my post. The movie creeped me out because it hit the realism of it pretty hard.
name of the movie?
oh, dont get e wrong, drinking was fun for me too when i was around 17-24 or something like that, after that idk what happened. perhaps i got older or perhaps the alcohol or other drugs i was taking fricked something up and 2 pints just didnt do it anymore. it became to the death everytime, still regret that time deeply and you learn the lesson eventualy - the easy way or the hard way.
One of my friends (drinking pals) was not so lucky. know him for a solid 10 years and we passed the army together (russia), so even family knew him sort of. Anyways whilst i kinda addressed my problems, he just continued deeper and deeper into the bottle and yeah sure you can say im a "shit friend" or whatever but at the end of the day theres really nothing you can do beyond just propagandising your view to them, its still their choice at the end of the day. even if you would lock them up to detox, next day free theyd be drowning in liquor even harder.
anyways, long story short he somehow got acquainted with 2 buttholes who got him blackout drunk, killed a person, dumped him on the street together with the body and called the police pinning it all on him.
Ofcourse the court decided intoxication is not a defense and by that time even if you ask him himself, he wouldnt be able to tell you wether hed done it or not as his memory was totally wiped from the alcohol (he was also stupid in the morning after as he basicly GAVE the confession to the cops as he couldnt think clearly from the hangover). shame what an actually timid and good hearted person he was, but he was always bullied and in the army also. the sad thing is i used to visit him on "dates" in prison, but now i cant even do that because the moment i step foot in that country il be drafted to kill too.
Wish that would have been my wake up call but i still kept drinking. One day something just happens and one way or another you just stop.
>It’s not easy, but your body will thank you. No more restless nights, no more missed or bad workouts because you drank, no more remorse because you acted stupid when you were drunk, you will have more money and your health will improve.
>Also another thing that is recommend to do is to remember when you were a kid. You didn’t drank then and still you could enjoy a party or being with your friends, why then is alcohol necessary to enjoy such things?
Fricking this. These were the reasons for me
Thank you sir
Ozempic can treat drug addiction.
I used to drink every day but my life got better and now I don't want to anymore
so idk fix your problems I guess
I dunno man, AA helped me but I was pretty off the fricking rails. I could never straighten up on my own. Hopefully you have more willpower than me. Being busy at night also helped a lot.
You need to find the reason for your drinking. I drank for 10 years until I met a competent doctor who recognized my symptoms as ADHD. Got diagnosis and one vyvanse just vanished my symptoms and my desire to drink. One goddamn pill, been sober for 4 years now.
I drank only to get buzzed to calm myself down a bit like the meds do.
Get to the root of the drinking, there's always a reason and you can fix it.
Incidentally once I got help, I went to school and became a nurse and now I work with alcoholics/substance abuser.
If you drink a LOT and genuinely cannot go a day without drink before you get the shakes, get help from a doctor so you get meds to counter possible issues. If this is not possible then you must taper off but this is hard, though this the only way to do it safely on your own without drugs and if you cannot get access to healthcare for whatever reason.
>You need to find the reason for your drinking
Because it feels good man, am I cured now
I watched my 35 year old sister drink herself to death. I was with her during her last days. I’ll never forget how yellow she was.
She almost died prior to that too from the same thing, but miraculously recovered. A few sober years later her ducking doctor told her that a drink once a while was ok.
>told an alcoholic it was ok to drink a little.
>starts drinking again and dies from no self control.
I stopped drinking forever after that.
I'm sorry man. That's terrible. I had a neighbor die of alcoholism last year. Currently watching someone else I care about do the same thing. It's heartbreaking.
Absolute truth. I have never loved alcohol, but the last time I touched a drop was months ago, and the guy I was with (mentioned above) got so drunk he turned into an ugly, cruel Mr Hyde. Haven't wanted it at all since.
If you don't like AA you can look into SMART.
Also, depending upon the way you drink, The Sinclair Method might be a good fit as well.
>>The Sinclair Method
Have a problem with alcohol? Just drink more alcohol!
That's not even remotely how it works. The naltrexone makes it so you don't get a buzz from the alcohol and just get the motor and equilibrium effects.
Once your body understands that you're poisoning yourself because it is no longer getting that endorphin rush, because of the naltrexone, you don't have cravings for it anymore.
I did it and just drank through it. After like 8 or 9 the pleasure comes back and you can feel the rush again.
they the "shitface" method, don't drink all week expect one day, but that one day make sure you drink to the point of puking, you have to puke.
If you feel powerless against alcohol, then you can overpower it with more alcohol. in couple of weeks your body is gonna start associating alcohol with poison and it will naturally reject it.
I just look at the dent in the side of my car where I thwacked a pole while allegedly drunk driving.
Makes me real guilty real fast
I dont feel guilty about anything I did in your country. The only problem in my life was that you made me grow up undocumented, something that no one acknowledges as 99% of my problem there. I feel 0 guilt and I'm never returning. This was done to me.
Good morning sir.
Your parents should be arrested.
I feel guilty because I damaged my favorite car my car. Not any kind of shame or urge to be a good person.
Also, go back.
The only way I ever quit anything was when it interferes with my goals, I realized that, I made my choice to keep pursuing my goals. Can’t bodybuild while being a drunk, it is a fact.
Just don’t drink? Drink a diet cola instead? My dad was alcoholic and chain smoker for like a decade and just stopped cold turkey
24 hours after I get real anxious with 48 or so being panic attacks, feeling of impending doom, and paranoia
Really hate myself
Just put down the bottle x amap
I relapsed a few times but this time I don't have cravings. I still need to work on not drinking when going outside or visiting friends.
You need to hit rock bottom. Start drinking alone. Drink heavy shit and drink until you black out. Then get to the point of losing your family, job and friends because you have developed alcoholism. If you're not sick of yourself and change course in your life, keep at it and fail your life like your liver will soon do
replace it with cocaine haha
If you're sober around belligerently drunk people for long enough, itll lose it's appeal
Go out and get a DUI anon, lose your life career, friends and a night in the slammer will make you reconsider drinking again. I went cold turkey right after, just looking at the shit in the store makes my tummy churn.
if you're at the aa level, lsd, unironically
hrs of abrasive introspection tends to give alcoholgays the clarity and grit needed to make the decision
it's way better than the disease cope
Gimme booze
I've quit alcohol several times in my life, but finally stuck to it this year. I'm currently 8 months sober and will never touch a drink again. What helped me? Over the years I realized how much I relied on it in order to have fun or be social. I remembered not needing any substances to enjoy life when I was a kid and I was pretty happy then, so why should i partake in alcohol now?
After these thoughts, I then stumbled across the Andrew Huberman episode on alcohol where he talked about the affects of alcohol, even on the days you're NOT drinking. I said goodbye to alcohol after watching that. I still crave it every now and then, but having self-discipline along with remembering all the benefits of not drinking keep me away form that shit. No anxiety, better sleep, better focus, improved memory, and more energy, etc.
Link to alcohol episode:
Just stop buying it and don't go to bars.
How do you physically control yourself from driving to the booze store on the way home after work?
not him but I'm only a social drinker, never really had the urge to drink while alone
Try the Allen Carr Easyway.
Ozempic or Wellbutrin
Yeah for me it was pancreatitis at first but i continued to drink after i got better and then i just suddenly stopped out the blue
Don't buy it. Dry house.
Be real sad about it and eat this amount of mushrooms.
Don't run from the entities, stay put and tell they you need help.
Don't resist, let they take you for a ride even if it looks very strange and dangerous. They will not let anything bad happen. Just don't freak out. Stay put
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mana potion. Now I know why it is blue
I haven't had a drink since December. I was spending too much money and struggling at the gym. A year earlier my dad was in end stage liver failure with a MELD score of 32.
I quit cold turkey and suffered minor withdrawal symptoms. Overall, my stress tolerance has increased and I am in much better shape. Mental health has improved and so has gym habits. I've lost 35lb.
I miss whiskey and beer and one day I will drink again, but not today . Don't be a weak homosexual. Lesser morons have quit worse.
this cat goes hard, saved
He got stung by a bee.
I became disgusted with myself when I saw how bloated my face looked, how shitty I felt every morning, how I had a growing gut, how I felt dumber and dumber as time wore on, and seeing severe alcoholics struggle through their lives. Disgust is the most powerful motivator for quitting bad habits. You need to put that shitty habit beneath you, rather than treating it as some mountain you need to climb. Find something to occupy yourself with when you get cravings, and those cravings will disappear.
Drinking makes pp not work
I have the opposite problem. I generally nut faster than I would like. Drinking makes pp work better. I could get by without most of the positives from drinking, but I'd miss absolutely blowing my wife's back out for hours at a time.
they have numbing sprays to make you last longer
>used to get drunk every night by myself.
>used to go out and get drunk with friends and was gods drunkest driver.
>would ride the motorcycle when I could so I had more margin of error to not get pulled over.
>straight up alcoholic
>dad gets diagnosed with cancer
>dad dies from cancer
>can't drink anymore because felt that I'd get too emotional and do something stupid like suck start a 9mm
>ended up quitting cold turkey
>gave me time to process my fathers death
>9 months later I was able to have a beverage without needing to get drunk
>much prefer not getting drunk or drinking even if it's in a social situation, though I will have a drink to be social
>had 1 beer a few weeks ago and got all in the sads and down on myself for no reason
>began speaking affirmations to myself in a near-meditative state
>feeling a lot better about life
Dad died almost 2 years ago now. I miss him every day. We'd share cognac and smokes together. I quit smoking, quit drinking, am a month into no porn, lifts are going great (smashed my last PR for 85lb dumb bell bench, did 14 reps on Monday on my 3rd set, when last time my third set only net 6 reps (on 3x10s and then on the last set I go to failure).
Anyways, you gotta want it bad enough to want to quit. You gotta want it like you want to breathe. I never got rid of any of my alcohol. In fact, I STILL have a fully stocked bar for when I have guests.
The easiest way is to ho cold turkey, unless you're really addicted and cold turkey will kill you, in which case, you need to get medical help
As other anon said, get rid off all the alcohol in your house and do it today. If you delay, your more likely to talk yourself our of it
Remember addiction is driven in part by environment, its why shaming fatties often doesn't work (to IST's annoyance), in reality, as long as its easily accessible, people will remain tempted to consume.
In a sense, you're treating the part of you that gets tempted like a child. You have to insulate it from temptations, safe guard it. You do this by hiding the bleach from reach, or in this case, putting the alcohol in the bin and then emptying the bin.
Be stringent about what gets brought into your house too. Ask friends to bring soda for game night, on the weekend, ask if you can go bowling instead of to the pub. There's less pressure to drink and the environment is different there. Be up front with friends and Co workers too. Admitting your addicted and stopping may well sound weak in your head
But depending what kind of drunk you are, some may barely tolerate you at this point, so they will earnestly support you. Others will support you because they want you to live a good life. Embrace support and don't be ashamed. Real men don't wince from their feelings or weaknesses, it's just another mountain to be conquered
I drank cause everyone around me did, started at 14 stopped social drinking at 28. I was without motivation and purpose in general. You dont have something you choose to want. Not what society tells you what to want, but your own thing you want for yourself. If you truely want what ever it is, then you can leave everything else behind.
The issue is,what is worth it to you. Before that you gotta figure yourself out. What hills your willing to die on. What guides your own moral compass? What are your principals? Again, not based on society's ideals, but your own choice.
If you need a starting point with no strings attached such as religion and nearly unknown, read the Gor saga. The first 6 books should be enough to teach anyone about males and females. A code to live by with logical reasoning. Dont join the cringe sex cults of ugly betas, or easy pussy from those girls. Along with that it will also show that life is simpler then what the world is pretending what it is to be. The warriors code is pretty solid.
If you can die, alone and happy of what you choose to want and go after, then nothing else will mater.
Liver damage effects SHBG. without it your T levels are fricked, lots of free T and your body thinks its high level T, so it dumps. Also it dumps out your piss cause its unbound. Negative loop leads to self chemical castration. Low T, no sperm etc...
BTW married the next year after i chose what i wanted. I Retired at 35. Beat my dad to retirement. He retired at 68 2 years ago.
have a nice day you fricking schizo.
God forbids drunkenness.
What works for me is:
Drink so fricking much in a day to get it out of your system. The hang over the next day is enough for me to quit it for a while.
And usually the reason why I start drinking in the first place is because I'm bored and/or failing to manage my stress.
>think I may have an alcohol problem
>drink daily, start smoking ganja again
>ganja makes me anxious, use it to fight deamons I'm repressing, throw hands at my anxiety and other mental shit
>desire to drink any more than 2 beers instantly fades
Gotaed drug boys, maybe I'm just built strange but the green israelite is a really great tool to moderate myself and improve my mental. It can get tiring but remembeing all the worst of myself and feeling those pangs of painful guilt is great when I sober, really motivates me.
Can't suggest switching vices but, ganja is simply superior to booze imo
just dont buy booze
problem with alcohol is that it's legal and so readily available
hahaha, i have a joke about this one.
Husband and wife. Husband is alcoholic. One day stops drinking. Every night his wife comes home and puts expensive liquor on glass display shelf. after like 2 weeks shelf is full of expensive liquor. Husband cant take it anymore and asks " Honey, why the frick are you buying alcohol, you know i quit - why are you doing this, to test me? to torture me? why are you buying these bottles and putting them infront of me just to be tempted"
wife replies :"Honey, i used to buy these bottles all the fricking time anyways, you were just drinking them all of them".
i don ged it
Just stop drinking wtf kind of question is that?
How do people get addicted to shit? Like really? You can't control your own actions? What are you some type of moronic robot running on auto pilot?
Ridiculous, seriously dude? Grow up.
You need to live it.
Yeah it's hard for me to believe as well. I've read somewhere that there might be some genetic abnormality in alcoholics that make them more dependent than others. That could be BS though and they might just be weak willed homosexuals that can't have fun without fricking up their brain
I have to take Accutane for the rest of my life, and so that forced me to never drink again. Simple as.
You're not supposed to take it for life.
I don't have a choice. I have a rare scalp condition which is untreatable any other way. And that's not my opinion. Several different dermatologists and infectious disease experts told me that.
You'll die of liver failure at this rate bro
Probably. But I'd honestly rather die than suffer from my skin conditions.
>without needing to join an AA
Yes. I was never addicted, more emotionally attached to alcohol. I would use it to mask my anxiety. I made a simple choice of choosing a lifestyle that doesn't involve alcohol. Not an easy choice by any measure, but a simple one. No more bars and clubs, more gym and gains. Up with the birds in the morning, beddybuys by 10pm - sounds boring? It's fricking revolutionary. I feel great.
Frick having a hangover and frick spending money to have one. Frick saying things I regret to hurt people I love. Life is much better now, I'm lean and focused. Remember, it's a simple choice. I'm 4 years deep and there's no looking back. Good luck anon.
I have a lot of control with money/spending and budgeting. How I quit more than one addiction was with phasing it out of my budgets.
wat u do with the extra money
cus booze is expensive when ur drinking it like water
Used it to replace my wardrobe and shoes one thing at a time. Like first month $30 off my alcohol budget which became two pairs of niceish slacks. Second month was $45 which was a couple hoodies and some socks. 3rd month i think was $60 shows underwear washcloths because i just wanted some and some generic electric toothbrush heads. I pretty much just drink paul masson vsop in pints and can get drunk off half a pint and that's like $5 so my total alcohol budget for the month is like $10 rn.
Not alcool related, but what do you think about Ketamine? Many of my friends do it and they have a lot of fun, but I can't understand if it might be something bad to use even occasionally
If you drink excessively, then it will undo all of your effort in the gym. Alcohol makes you fatter and it makes you lose muscle mass. It also damages the collagen in your skin and makes you look uglier. So just remember that whenever you go for a drink, that your time spent working out and eating right is being retroactively wasted. This made me want to drink less
If you're drinking excessively, then it's probably because you're sad/bored, and need to find something else to do with your time. Get other hobbies that don't involve drinking
Rehab
Stay busy when youre not working. Find something you can focus on all weekend personal project anything and stay busy as you can. Organise to see a family member on saturday morning so you cant drink friday night etc.
Keep doing that and it gets easier over time thats really all you can do. If youre the type to drink and then go to work the next day I cant help you. Probably time for AA if youre that far gone
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Annie Grace got me started on my journey to sobriety. I drink about once every three months now.