Is lifting on deficit pointless

>can't gain muscle
>can't gain strength
>only lifting to "maintain" muscle and strength, probably not doing jack shit for either
>takes twice as long as simply doing nothing with a high calorie deficit
Why eat 1800 calories a day while lifting for 6 months when you can eat 1200, do nothing, and lose 30 pounds in 3 months? I've seen no evidence to show that this results in massive muscle loss.

  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    What is the lowest bf% you can still can muscle with?
    Do you think 12% is too low?

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you can still can muscle with?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I am very high please just respond

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Idk what you are asking brev

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Okay. I'm 15% bf right now. I want to know if its possible to gain muscles if i would be 12%.
            Is 12% too low?

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              You would gain muscle if you are 12% and do a slight calofic surplus
              If u do a deficit you would lose muscle

              Its not hard gay

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah try it lmao
    You will even lose muscle when you train perfectly every day when cutting
    Not training and cutting is suicide for muscle
    How retarded some people are lmao

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      We should be encouraging him to do it. Just think, in three months' time we'll all have a good chuckle when he posts his massive losses.

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Try it and find out, then come back here and report.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      we’ve lived on this earth for thousand of years with written word… are we retarded?

  4. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’m hindsight that hair looks retarded and he looks like a chud. He would look a lot better with a fade and stop wearing makeup or whatever the fuck overly manicured shit is going on there

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      His chin implant looks borderline bog tier there and he also has plucked and makeuped eyebrows.

      He's also not even that big, lmao. Barely above the natty limit.
      >dying for this

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      And picrel looked like total gays but you bet they got lots of pussy. It was just the style back then, though it was quite dated by the time Zyzz died. But in the early to mid 2000's you saw lots of guys that looked like him.

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    my drink smells like pussy

  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can ser all sorts of stupid evidence and studies which amount to nothkng to support any sort of personal bias towards anything under the sun. People who look for these things as evidence are the same people who think they have a good shot at carnival games. Try it out yourself and document what happens. I am not a guy with any cutting knowledge so I can't chime in but it might be good and you can give pointers to other anons on road blocks or tips to help them if it works in your favour. Online discussions on what may or may not happen really amount to not a thing.

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >>only lifting to "maintain" muscle and strength
    Exactly retard. You lift to maintain, if you are at a deficit and don't use your muscles your body will delete them as fast as it can

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Eat 1200 kcal and lift. Caffeine/nicotine(obviously don't smoke) to get you through your workouts. 1g/lb of lean mass for protein.
    You WILL catabolize muscle without lifting, your body has zero reason to carry around expensive mass when you're starving.
    If you're 20%+, you will almost certainly gain strength / some muscle while cutting.

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    I did exactly what OP is talking about. I did retarded powershitter programs with bare minimum volume (531 BBB) for like 2 years, gained some muscle but a lot of fat, did nothing for a year and a half, then dieted hard for 4 months and lost 40 pounds. I have no idea how much muscle I've lost but I don't look completely dyel, except in areas I was always dyel because of those powershitter programs like my arms. My chest, lats, front delts, quads, and calves are larger than at any point in my life when I was skinny. I was eating 1200 calories a day, barely 75g of protein, and almost always OMAD. So I think this talk of your muscles getting catabolized immediately isn't true. But I have no real way of knowing how much muscle I truly lost (or even had in the first place since it was all covered by fat.)

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >can't gain muscle
    >can't gain strength
    both wrong

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is lifting on deficit pointless
    Yeah mate. Just stop lifting altogether.

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    zyzz looks goofy, I dont remember him always looking this goofy

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      You grew up.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's AI enhanced image. That's why he looks like he inhabits the uncanny valley

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