Is NoFap/Semen Retention a meme? Will it help my gains?
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Is NoFap/Semen Retention a meme? Will it help my gains?
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It's a complete meme. No porn is what you need to achieve. Fapping every now and then is normal. Holding it in will probably just create more problems for you, as you'll be fixating on it for no good reason. If you need to bust, do it in moderation. Every 1-2 days is fine, but multiple times in a few hours is a problem. And if ur going to do it, don't watch porn.
Literally nothing wrong with porn
It exploits the actresses/actors
They exploited themselves by joining the industry. Unless you're talking about the ones that were trafficked
not my problem
>Implying I care about the actress beyond their booba. NGMI
They were dead on arrival
This entire website is a testament to how damaging porn is.
what about nudes on OF(coomer) etc. I'm not a huge fan of watching women get fricked but its pretty hot watching some rando beg for my pp
>t. coping porn addict
if I jerk off with my imagination, but I have a extremely vivid imagination that is more stimulating than porn, is it still no porn?
yes
How about just pictures of women? Not hc pron?
It's better, but it's best to not get used to having a screen in front of you
This is literally the most moronic stance that you could. Literally saying that you're a religious nutjob moron but still lack any self control.
Semen retention helps everything. Improved energy levels. Focus. Problem solving. Emotional stability.
E V E R Y T H I N G
Yes, Nofap can literally replace a couple of hours of your sleep.
You can sleep for 4 hours and the semen retention will be equivalent to 2 hrs of sleep!
>muh no fap gainz
yeah just look at all the awesome physique pics these nofap incels post all the time kek
Post yours, jizzlet.
why? we all know anyone who ever touched their dick is a fat beta dyel incel.
So let's see those awesome nofap powers of yours. I keep hearing all this shit nofap is supposed to do but no one ever posts results.
We all know how this stupid dance goes. Even if someone posts a 9/10 physique you'll pick fault with it like the acne covered fat frick you are. Why don't you post an example of what would be acceptable as proof?
you tell me to post body first but now you're making excuses why you wont.
Pathetic.
No fap is an incel cult.
There's 2 types of incels: porn addicts and nofappers. Just 2 sides of the same incel coin.
At least we know
what you are.
What if you're trying nofap because you made a new years resolution to only nut inside your gf?
>if someone posts a 9/10 physique
>no one ever does
Here you go buddy.
you look like a 12 year old boy.
Is this the magical high test nofap gainz I keep hearing about kek
i cant breef
I recently did around a week or more Nofap/noporn. Didnt notice any gains or mental clarity or whatever. I did wake up in the middle of the night and coomed 3x in 45mins but unless youre edging and watching hours of porn each day I dont think its bad.
No
Yes but by proxy because you won't be wasting time gooning
google orgasm and androgen receptors and find out
It won't impact your physique but it will give you mental and spiritual gainz.
>Chimp in state of nature never jerks off, but in captivity he does, wat does this mean? In state of nature he’s too busy, to put plainly. He is concerned with mastering space: solving problem of life in and under trees, mastering what tools he can, mastering social relations in the jockeying for power and status.
Deprived of this drive to development and self-increase he devolves to pointless masturbation, in captivity, where he senses he is in owned space and therefore the futility of all his efforts and all his actions.
Forget about the magic powers, that’s all bullshit anyways. Masturbation is a time wasting and gross habit, like smoking. Porn is a disgusting industry run by human trafficking scum, so you shouldn’t be using it.
It’s that simple. The point isn’t any of the supernatural abilities that schizos and losers think that they’ll gain. The point is keeping yourself disciplined and principled.
Orgasming seems to decrease testosterone. So it's fine if you Edge yourself without ejaculating.
I do wonder if gooning for multiple hours increases your testosterone levels.
Wrong. The dopamine drench of edging does way more damage than an orgasm. It’s degenerate and moronic behavior.
>Wrong
What does dopamine have to do with testosterone?
Frying your dopamine receptors lowers androgen receptors. This is where the idea that orgasms lower test come from. All of these degenerate behaviors revolve around dopamine release and your body’s reaction to it. Edging to porn may as well be snorting lines of cocaine.
I feel genuinely better when on semen retention, the issue is that I relapse after 2 weeks and then I can tell how bad it is to relapse. It works but you have to figure out a way to keep it going.
Two weeks really is when I really start noticing big changes. Last time, I looked myself in the mirror and I almost couldn't recognize myself.
My skin was smooth, glowing, felt so fricking handsome for the first time in a very long time.
Also big changes in others' behaviors towards me. Some really bizarre stuff happens a few weeks into this.
lol
You nofap incels dont know when to stop larping.
An then anyone who laughs at your obvious bullshit you call a porn addict and a israelite.
Nofap attracts a lot of schizos, losers, and incels, but the fact of the matter is the porn is a criminal industry and masturbation is a pointless habit. Anyone who can see the merits of lifting and a strict diet can also see the merits of eliminating other bad habits from their life.
homosexual.
This is one of the more reasonable posts on IST. Agreed. I don't feel any desire to join "no fap communities" because they're infested with weird fricking people but the discipline itself is very beneficial to your well being. Porn is poison the same way drugs are poison.
no one in this thread (except for a few die hard coomers) says porn is anything other than harmful.
But for some reason, nofap incels think anyone who touches their dick is using porn and is a chronic masterbater beating off 100x times a day.
I beat my porn use by simply jacking off real quick when overcome with the urge to watch it.
Jack off and the desire for porn goes away.
I've mentioned this in other threads and the nofap incels go hysterical that I beat my dick in the shower 2x a week. NOOOOO!!! YOU MUST HAVE SELF CONTROL!!! ITS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THAT YOU DONT TOUCH YOUR DICK!!!!
I said before - porn addicts and nofap cultists are 2 sides of the same incel coin
I don't jack off because it drains me and makes me feel like shit, regardless whether porn is involved or not. Maybe not men feel like that but I'm sure I'm not alone in this.
the weak should fear the strong
if they were wise, they would.
Why is my sex drive higher when I'm cruising on 150 test than when I'm blasting at 500? I don't take any AI, could they be it?
Day 50 nofap bruvs
I didn't feel super different but more troubling was that my dick lost its semen shooting power after not being worked for a while. Also stopped having erections. Had to correct it. Would recommend doing no porn but not no fap. Just go every few days.
Definitely just something wrong with your dick. Nofap loads dump like a firehose.
I probably would have been the same if I was in high school like you, but at 33, not anymore.
35. Going even 2 weeks gives me explosive and long cumshots.
I guess you're just a sex God bro
I can’t really say. I’ve only paid this much attention to my own jizz. I would still think it’s abnormal if I did t spray the ceiling after 1-2 weeks of not ejaculating.
Uhh you might want to talk to a doctor bro, you’re in your 30s not 50s…
There's not much to talk about. But I can talk with you morons, I guess. Basically if I don't spank it enough, my semen gets really chunky. The longer I wait the worse it gets. So for me, every few days works best to ensure proper cum blasting power. I don't know what to think of it other than from looking it up, it seems like something that varies from person to person. What is a doctor going to do about that, exactly? I'll get told it's normal and get sent home. Just something to consider when giving out blanket advice.
I can't jerk off without porn because the mere act of jerking off always leads to porn. It has to be full no fap no matter what
No gold medalist has ever participated in nofap. No Mr Olympia has ever participated in nofap. No billionaire has ever participated in nofap. The only mostly confirmed notable nofap participants are the clergy and psychotics like Isaac Newton.
>The only mostly confirmed notable nofap participants are the clergy
they beat off they just pretend they dont.
Or they frick one another. Catholic church was overthrown by homosexuals and pedos long ago
whatever you do do not edge bro
commit to ejaculating or don't engage at all
I've been working on associating feelings of disgust to edging. It worked for me when it came to quitting weed and drinking. Disgust is a powerful motivator, and edging your dick to porn like a monkey in captivity is both disgusting and degrading. I've found myself turning off porn sooner and putting my attention elsewhere
I've started again. My advice: remember what the Buddha said about repulsion being as bad as attraction. Don't think about how sex and women are bad, corrupting, dirty, etc. Think about how much you like the mindful, energetic state you've achieved.
Isn't that the deal with nofap though, it's not that
>sex and women are bad, corrupting, dirty, etc.
It's that perking off to a screen is a very poor facsimile of those things
*jerking
>some people still want to frick
I forgot. I just want peace and to minimize my needs. I hate working
>I just want peace and to minimize my needs.
That's fine too. I think noporn/nofap works from both angles. You either want to frick or you want to avoid cooming reducing the quality of your life.
I was going to argue against you guys on this, since I've nutted in my sleep, but I do have stressful weeks at work sometimes
Nofap/semen retention is a meme, all that happens is that you cum in your sleep instead and make a huge mess. Just stay away from porn and you'll be fine.
I went 500+ days once and I never once nutted in my sleep
>low test
nah I've always had high test and felt great on the streak
I'll give it to you straight from cooner to coomer.
Nofap works. When I did a month straight while waiting for an onahole torso I bought online I felt more outgoing and stronger (actual lifts were marginally up.) Every morning after the first ~10 days was refreshing and I felt well rested. After I busted 3 nuts the day it arrived I did feel sore and slow the next day.
Nowadays I only fap once a week and it works well enough for me.
The nutting in your sleep thing is a myth, the only wet dream I've had since I was a teen was when I worked 6 10-hour days consecutively
>the only wet dream I've had since I was a teen was when I worked 6 10-hour days consecutively
yeah it's weird how stress can make you horny. I used to bike home from work and get hit with an unstoppable urge
Studies show abstaining from ejaculation for 7 days led to a 400% increase in testosterone on average.
Higher testosterone means better muscle gains and faster recovery
that would be the equivalent of a low dose steriod cycle.
Where's all these jacked nofap incels posting pics?
Oh yeah its because that doesnt happen
What they neglected to mention is that your test goes back down to nominal levels
So you get a badass week then you go back down to normal where you don't want to coom so badly. Sounds perfect
Not really, it simply puts you back into normal testosterone range.
Go ahead and try no fap for 7 days, your libido will be through the roof, and you will feel like you can fight anyone
>it simply puts you back into normal testosterone range.
what makes you think my test level is below normal range?
Because I have sex and ejaculate?
>try no fap for 7 days, your libido will be through the roof
and then you "flatline" for months, probably due to testosterone dropping. You clowns castrate yourselves
Yes… the science is perfectly clear, ejaculating lowers testosterone, and has a lingering effect up to 7 days. Literally just look it up
so every man walking around fricking their wives, gfs etc and have normal social lives, exercise, go to work etc are all "low test".
But nofap incels who watch cartoons and play video games all day, have no friends and are too scared to look a girl in the eye and say hi are all high test chads checking the days off the calendar each day they dont touch their dick waiting until they wake up one morning with the magic super power of being able to hold a normal conversation with another human.
ok then
I notice I go into a depressive slump every time I cum. It also makes my face break out. The mental clarity I get from not cooming is serious stuff. Ejaculating is natural, but it should be limited. I believe there is something to be said about the esoteric significance of spilling our seed. Porn is everywhere, creativity and inventiveness are at all time lows, and culture continues to degrade. There is a reason that religions barred men from jerking off. There's more than just sperm and some nutrients that we lose when we jerk off and coom.
Yes it's a meme. No it won't help your gains. However, maintaining control over your desires is infinitely more valuable than beating off.
Every one of you homosexuals has a different opinion. Frick you all, I'll try it myself. Useless c**ts.