It's certainly become fetishized thanks to Jeff. If you do rows it's not going to add much. It's main selling point is it's a perfect exercise to do between other sets, just like calves and abs.
Based bait thread.
I’ve always preferred a chest height rope starting position to the high rope. To me you want to train the external rotators up and back, down and back isn’t really any natural motion
>I'm a worthless piece of shit that gets hurt raising my arm to the side and I never do anything to try to fix it so I blame the exercise instead of fixing my shit.
I'm the complete opposite. Even with a close-ish grip my chest grows but my triceps don't. And most people seem to fail the bench in the midrange or the bottom, not at the top where the triceps are most active.
If this is happening, which I doubt, you are either using a close grip like a moron or have extremely weak triceps like stupidly weak which means you should work them instead of looking for work arounds cuz even people with small triceps rarely fail in bench cuz of them.
Rows, pull-ups, lat pulldowns and deadlifts. Arms become tire out before the lats had been worked hard enough to stimulate growth. Best exercise is the straight arm pulldown.
>Arms become tire out before the lats had been worked hard enough to stimulate growth
Christ are you arm's just extremely weak or just really long, I have a 6'2 armspan at 5'8.5 and my arms have never tired before my back or chest
His hands are incorrectly placed
It's certainly become fetishized thanks to Jeff. If you do rows it's not going to add much. It's main selling point is it's a perfect exercise to do between other sets, just like calves and abs.
T. 50 iq dyels with shit delts
that's good for Judo
right way
nah that's stupid you hit rear delta better like in ops pic
Based bait thread.
I’ve always preferred a chest height rope starting position to the high rope. To me you want to train the external rotators up and back, down and back isn’t really any natural motion
I thought the hands were supposed to beat the elbows backward
They are. You should also use and underhand grip and pull to hairline or above
If you do it at a 30-45 degree incline it's like a hybrid upright row that builds insane upper back
Why do rows make my shoulders rotate?
Okay, OP. You first.
i finished off my workout with facepulls got a rear delt pump hopped on /fit and saw this
yeah it's garbage for building muscle but my shoulder doesn't pop out of socket when I put on a seatbelt anymore so I'm going to keep doing it
It's a good exercise which helps fix postural imbalance, if done correctly which is not the case in gif related.
External rotation
More like based exercises.
Shit on Jeff as much as you want but this is an absolute treasure for everyone with shoulder problems.
>casually face pulling the whole stack
Underage contrarians.
I literally can't do these without fricking my rotary cuffs, so unironically useless.
Start Lighter.
>I'm a worthless piece of shit that gets hurt raising my arm to the side and I never do anything to try to fix it so I blame the exercise instead of fixing my shit.
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You just don't know how to do it. Hits my rear delts and upper back great.
bench press since it's the arms give out before you can fully work the chest.
I'm the complete opposite. Even with a close-ish grip my chest grows but my triceps don't. And most people seem to fail the bench in the midrange or the bottom, not at the top where the triceps are most active.
Whats a better alternative?
Chest press machine. Or cable/DB flies
Cable flys are good, DB flys not so much
This.
But also this.
your triceps are weak. that's the problem.
Which is exactly the issue, bench press is just a glorified tricep extension.
If this is happening, which I doubt, you are either using a close grip like a moron or have extremely weak triceps like stupidly weak which means you should work them instead of looking for work arounds cuz even people with small triceps rarely fail in bench cuz of them.
If you’re a moron I guess.
there is an exception, bicep curls are fricking amazing if you want tendonitis
brachioradialis sounds like a dinosaur
Rawr :3
Rows, pull-ups, lat pulldowns and deadlifts. Arms become tire out before the lats had been worked hard enough to stimulate growth. Best exercise is the straight arm pulldown.
Wheres this pic from?
>Wheres this pic from?
looks like the book "Strength Training Anatomy"
you can pirate it from b-ok.cc/
>Arms become tire out before the lats had been worked hard enough to stimulate growth
Christ are you arm's just extremely weak or just really long, I have a 6'2 armspan at 5'8.5 and my arms have never tired before my back or chest
i can't do chest cause my arms get tired much faster... but i'm still a beginner with needle arms
T. Small delts