Just been told that bulking is a meme and I can gain muscle purely by getting enough protein, no need for bulking at all

Just been told that bulking is a meme and I can gain muscle purely by getting enough protein, no need for bulking at all

Is this true?

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Only if you’re fat.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'm skinnyfat because I've been bulking and was told I'm an idiot for falling for the winter bulk meme

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Just eat less and lose the fat now? I don’t see the problem. Do you even have a girlfriend? Why does it matter that your abs don’t show when it’s snowing outside?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Just eat less and lose the fat now
          But aren't I supposed to gain fat to build muscle?
          >Do you even have a girlfriend?
          Yes
          And I don't care about abs right now, my main thing is I don't want to bulk and get fatter and then cut later on to gain muscle if it's true that as long as I get enough protein and eat enough (not bulking) I can gain muscle

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You bulk to gain muscle. You cut to lose fat. While bulking if you're dirty bulking you'll also put on fat, but your goal is building muscle during the bulk and then show it after a cut.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Youre always gonna gain some excess fat when eating to gain muscle. Unless youre a beginner or on roids its very very tough to build muscle while maintaining a caloric deficit
              As a personal anecdote im eating like shit right now (at my parents house, hard to avoid it) and my lifts are going up, that didnt happen as quickly as when i was on a deficit

              Fuck I've been dirty bulking now I feel dumb

              That makes sense, so I just eat at a slight surplus to not become crazy bloated?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Dirty bulking isnt great, im doing it and i look like shit
                I believe eating at aslight surplus (while eating around 0.8g protein per pound of bodyweight) should stop you from getting too bloated while gaining muscle
                But once again im a retard which is why im doing a dirty bulk

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Youre always gonna gain some excess fat when eating to gain muscle. Unless youre a beginner or on roids its very very tough to build muscle while maintaining a caloric deficit
            As a personal anecdote im eating like shit right now (at my parents house, hard to avoid it) and my lifts are going up, that didnt happen as quickly as when i was on a deficit

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You're not skinny fat, moron. Skinny fat means you have hardly any muscle but lots of stubborn fat that is extremely hard to burn because of a lack of muscle.

        You are just too fat if you bulked.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Stubborn fat is hard to burn if you don't have muscle
          Retard

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Fuck off. The body prefers to carbonize muscle, retard.

            The fastest solution for skinny fat is bulking. Saying skinny fat is caused by muscle gain in bulking is retarded.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You're supposed to lift while you bulk

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you can maintain more muscle mass at higher body fat percentage, it has diminishing returns the fatter you get ,but it is absolutely true.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Is this true?
    I'm going to say "Yes" but not because it's reality but because most people tend to under log the amount of calories they're actually eating. So If they shoot for maintenance they'll probably be at a surplus anyways. But in reality you do more or less need to be at a surplus to create an anabolic state long enough to grow anything. The likelihood of being a catabolic state and just flushing weeks or months of work down drain accidentally is pretty high if you're at true maintenance.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is fucking scary

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It also depends on bodyfat
        A skinny kid can bulk up to 18% bf and, with proper diet, routine and cardio, he can mostly gain lean mass, but once you get above 20% bf, a lot of your testosterone will aromatase into estrogen killing your gains

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You cant gain muscle without gaining some fat as well. How much fat you develop next to your muscle depends on your lifting style and protein intake.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yes but "enough protein" is only 0.8g/lb of lean body mass and you want that to come from meat.
    And then the hard part is that you can't eat sugar or alcohol or sweeteners (except acesulfame potassium) or your body can't process it
    Also, you need to lift heavy at volume at frequency

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Can you explain the mechanism of how sugar blocks protein synthesis? Im not really doubting, just curious.

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