Let's discuss legal appetite suppressants, I am tired of caffeine gigadoses. >nicotine hurr durr

Let's discuss legal appetite suppressants, I am tired of caffeine gigadoses.

>nicotine hurr durr
Already tried that, and it is a shit appetite suppressant

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not even close

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      OP here. Redpill me on psyllium husk please. I already eat an average of 50 g of fiber per day, would adding psyllium to my routine help me in a noticeable way?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I don't know much about the science behind it but it fills me up and makes me shit instantly. Lost alot of weight using it after every meal

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Op here, I will be providing festival girls to the community

          I am going to study thus supplement. How much did you take? Everyday? Any other tip about psyllium?

          https://i.imgur.com/yuDO3SD.png

          Zero carb fixes hunger. Picture related.

          Keto is interesting, but I train every other day so I need energy anon.

          What's the problem with nicotine?
          Any kind of amphetamine helps like Adderall or Vyvanse.

          I start my morning with a cig, a boomer sip and a Vyvanse and I've lost so much weight it's unreal. Rip my heart but I'm gonna give up cigs and sips once I'm bulking.

          I am trying to not smoke for 60 days for personal reasons. Coffee is great but I can't rely on that. Buying amphs on Amazon would be great tbh

          Coke fucks your hair, every monday after a weekend binge fuck loads of my hair would fall out, when I stopped doing coke the rate of my hairloss declined considerably

          My only cokehead friend is bald. Coincidence?

          stewed cabbage and egg drop soup
          green tea matcha is better than extracts and meme pills, or double bagging regular greens teas
          barley tea after noon
          sweet potato or yellow potatoes as your primary carb

          I drink 4-6 cups of green tea per day because caffeine rocks. Would matcha tea have any noticeable difference?

          Nicotine, Caffeine, Ephedrine, Yombhine, Prescribed amphetamines, Type 2 Diabetes meds

          Fiber, Protein, Absurd amount of liquid, chewing gum, chewing paper (yes it works, no it's not healthy)

          Anything after the EC Stack and it's psychological man. Trust me I tried abusing stims and would still just out eat it...

          I tried it all the legal ones. I even eat 1.5g pro/lb per day. 50 g of fiber daily. I even love chewing gum. My appetite still being high af. How the fck do I fix my obese brain?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I think you might be where I'm at RN. How long have you been/were cutting? My appetite was literally insatiable for like 3 months after what was essentially a 2 year cut.

            Uhm, the only way is unironically fasting, I've done it before it works. IF also works, but only if you don't eat high volume for your other meals, you basically have to "shrink" your volume, and your brain gets used to not eating as much.

            I do/did the same shit as you. I'm scared to fast cuz muh gains, so I'm just gonna IF again and eat pretty low volume. It's dogshit for like 2 weeks but it gets easier.

            I also abused stims, like i said, it just doesn't actually work if you are truly obeast mentally. You need to fix that first. Personally I'd recommend a maintenance phase until you just can not not want to cut anymore. I have to force myself to maintain ATM (and I'm still trying to eat 1800cals, my meal plan simply just doesn't go above 2k anymore lmao)

            Yesterday and today are the first days since July 16th I put food down before I finished it all. You can believe me if you want, the mental release of just saying "fuck it" really fixes it.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I drink 4-6 cups of green tea per day because caffeine rocks. Would matcha tea have any noticeable difference?

            it's about the difference between drip coffee and espresso. You don't steep matcha you whisk it together with hot water. Because it's literally gyokuro sencha (a shade grown japanese green tea)ground to a 5 micron powder.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No need for carbs to workout. Video related. Shawn Baker hasn't eaten carbs in 5+ years.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Carbs are great for energy, but I do agree you could become carbless, it's been shown.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The only caveat with lifting on zero carb that nobody mentions is that you need to eat high protein for gluconeogenesis to occur in order to keep glycogen levels and thyroid function optimal.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Humans don't use protein for energy as well as other carnivores do. We are adapted to use fat for energy.

                Protein is for building muscle, bone, enzymes, etc.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Gluconeogenesis refers tosynthesis of glucose from noncarbohydrate precursors, i.e from proteins, glycerol and lactate.

                you obviously don't understand what you're talking about. Humans can use protein for energy but it must synthesised into glucose first.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >you obviously don't understand what you're talking about.
                I obviously know more about the subject than you. I think we are running into a communication gap here. I am so vastle more knowledgable and intelligent than you that you don't even understand what I'm talking about.

                Here's a video that is probably too intelligent for you to understand:

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >vastle more knowledgable
                ok sweetie

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I proved my assertion in my post. Typos are irrelevant.

                The guy I was replying to (you?) is an overconfident imbecile with no clue what he is discussing.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I am so vastle more knowledgable and intelligent than you that you don't even understand what I'm talking about.

                Yes it is the other guy who is overconfident

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is a Semitic argument, but technically correct. You'd have to eat a very low calorie very low fat diet (and probably be very lean) for this to be a practical concern in my estimation. That said, if it's possible, someone will do it, and I'm sure many people have. Not the guy you're replying to btw.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Humans get rabbit starvation when they eat lean protein.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yes; but since we're splitting hairs, you can get rabbit starvation with a near-zero fat diet protein-only diet eaten chronically; and though it's never been proven experimentally (all of our knowledge on rabbit starvation in humans is observational iirc), I suspect burning more calories per day than you can liberate from your fat stores is also a necessary condition, which would make leaner people more susceptible. I'd wager a modern sedentary fatty could eat nothing but lean protein and not get rabbit starvation.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Note how I said gluconeogenic precursors come from proteins AND glycerol (and lactate)? This is entirely correct.

                I never brought up the amount of energy which is derived from either precursor. I was stating only that we can create an energy substrate from amino acids, among others. My original post was highlighting that for weightlifting on zero-carb diets, high protein works to keep glycogen stores optimal.

                No idea why you chimed in tbh.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You claimed people need to eat high protein for energy. Humans don't get any extra energy from a high protein diet. Human energy usage from protein maxes out at moderate protein consumption.

                You made a false statement so I corrected it.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >You claimed people need to eat high protein for energy.

                No. I said for lifting on zero carb, high protein helps keep glycogen levels at optimal levels via gluconeogenesis.

                I then clarified that humans can create an energy substrate from proteins, which they can.

                You're the one who started banging on about "muh energy usage"

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This is a false narrative. You would displace your macro nutrients so deeply by the amount of protein you would need to maintain glycogen stores that you'd develop rabbit starvation. Gluconeogenesis is only 75% energy efficient so for every 100 grams of extra protein you eat, you are getting 75, and gluconeogenesis happens so slowly that the glucose would be used as fuel rather than deposited as glycogen. The whole thing is pseudoscience and bro logic

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You would displace your macro nutrients so deeply by the amount of protein you would need to maintain glycogen stores that you'd develop rabbit starvation.

                Lol no. I'll agree that this COULD happen if you had NO bodyfat stores whatsoever to tap into and you were eating only the leanest animal protein available. It just wouldn't happen in the real world.

                Gluconeogenesis is only 75% energy efficient so for every 100 grams of extra protein you eat, you are getting 75, and gluconeogenesis happens so slowly that the glucose would be used as fuel rather than deposited as glycogen. The whole thing is pseudoscience and bro logic.

                You're talking as if the body doesn't use daily ingested calories for energy before tapping into bodyfat stores.

                And gluconeogenesis only happens too slowly if you're engaging in chronic amounts of exercise. Which is contraindicated for optimal health outcomes.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You wrote retorts(?) but disproved nothing I said.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You would displace your macro nutrients so deeply by the amount of protein you would need to maintain glycogen stores that you'd develop rabbit starvation.

                Lol no. I'll agree that this COULD happen if you had NO bodyfat stores whatsoever to tap into and you were eating only the leanest animal protein available. It just wouldn't happen in the real world.

                Gluconeogenesis is only 75% energy efficient so for every 100 grams of extra protein you eat, you are getting 75, and gluconeogenesis happens so slowly that the glucose would be used as fuel rather than deposited as glycogen. The whole thing is pseudoscience and bro logic.

                You're talking as if the body doesn't use daily ingested calories for energy before tapping into bodyfat stores.

                And gluconeogenesis only happens too slowly if you're engaging in chronic amounts of exercise. Which is contraindicated for optimal health outcomes.

                This is a false narrative. You would displace your macro nutrients so deeply by the amount of protein you would need to maintain glycogen stores that you'd develop rabbit starvation. Gluconeogenesis is only 75% energy efficient so for every 100 grams of extra protein you eat, you are getting 75, and gluconeogenesis happens so slowly that the glucose would be used as fuel rather than deposited as glycogen. The whole thing is pseudoscience and bro logic

                >You claimed people need to eat high protein for energy.

                No. I said for lifting on zero carb, high protein helps keep glycogen levels at optimal levels via gluconeogenesis.

                I then clarified that humans can create an energy substrate from proteins, which they can.

                You're the one who started banging on about "muh energy usage"

                children, please. if you were knowledgeable in these areas, you wouldn't be posting on IST.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                OK buddy

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                My original points were undoubtedly correct. You're obviously less educated than myself on this matter and tried to derail my original point to achieve what exactly?

                So to reiterate why I am correct:

                High protein intake on a zero-carb diet creates a "pool" of excess amino acids which are synthesized into glycogen via gluconeogenesis (which also uses glycerol and lactate). This is desireable when engaging in activities like weight lifting as the high-intensity nature of this type of exercise requires glycogen for optimal performance outcomes.

                If you are engaging in athletic endeavours on a zero-carb diet and do not ingest sufficient protein, its is highly likely that you will suffer declines in performance/output intensity due to insufficient muscle and liver glycogen levels.

                There. I win.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                You have yet to address any of my points or disprove anything I said but yes, you win if that makes you feel better

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >And gluconeogenesis only happens too slowly if you're engaging in chronic amounts of exercise. Which is contraindicated for optimal health outcomes.
                Irrelevant
                >Lol no. I'll agree that this COULD happen if you had NO bodyfat stores whatsoever to tap into and you were eating only the leanest animal protein available. It just wouldn't happen in the real world.
                Missed the point

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                The absolute cope

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          The additional advantage of using it after every meal is that it can significantly reduce LDL cholesterol, but only if taken after every meal and like, right after that meal. It will bind with bile acids and put them in your poop so they're not reabsorbed by your lower GI.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            LDL cholesterol is vital and protective. Why would your body make it if it needed "reduced"?

            Glycated LDL is what you should fear. Go use your googlefu to figure out how LDL becomes glycated.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I like psyllium for the consistent bulky shits that wipe easy.
        I eat a tablespoon a day at breakfast mixed in yogurt.
        I don't know if it is doing anything appetite suppressant wise, I usually don't eat anything til the evenings anyway.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You just have to make sure you maintain and/or slightly increase your water intake if you start taking psyllium (or any fiber supplements). It needs to absorb water to expand in your gut. Also, you may experience some bloating when you first introduce it into your diet. Personally, I stick with a combination of citrucel and baobab powder which works better for me.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Zero carb fixes hunger. Picture related.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Scientists have been trying to replicate this study since '53 without success
      Let's discuss the idea that maybe it was fraudulent, because you don't have the balls to prove me wrong

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i have no evidence. i am not the person you are replying to. you'll have to take it at face value. I was 350 pounds. i lost 110 pounds just doing keto and walking, and it genuinely suppressed my hunger. i cannot prove it, but it helped me.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the problem with nicotine?
    Any kind of amphetamine helps like Adderall or Vyvanse.

    I start my morning with a cig, a boomer sip and a Vyvanse and I've lost so much weight it's unreal. Rip my heart but I'm gonna give up cigs and sips once I'm bulking.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >amphetamines are a LEGAL appetite suppressant
      Retarded anon, but based coffee and cig enthusiast

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nicotine gigadoses

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Pretty much this. You can starve yourself to the point of physical pains with a high % nicotine vape.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    the right one is fucking hot
    anyone have her telephone number?

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve been considering coke or meth. Hunter Biden is slowly becoming my new hero.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Coke fucks your hair, every monday after a weekend binge fuck loads of my hair would fall out, when I stopped doing coke the rate of my hairloss declined considerably

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    stewed cabbage and egg drop soup
    green tea matcha is better than extracts and meme pills, or double bagging regular greens teas
    barley tea after noon
    sweet potato or yellow potatoes as your primary carb

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    usually not being a weak-willed gay does the trick for me

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Nicotine, Caffeine, Ephedrine, Yombhine, Prescribed amphetamines, Type 2 Diabetes meds

    Fiber, Protein, Absurd amount of liquid, chewing gum, chewing paper (yes it works, no it's not healthy)

    Anything after the EC Stack and it's psychological man. Trust me I tried abusing stims and would still just out eat it...

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also For "fat loss" but you will be hungry as fuck, and no they aren't legal
      >DNP
      >Clenbetural
      >Unprescribed amphetamines

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just eat PSMF if you're trying to cut. You'll feel less hungry but lose bodyfat super quick.

    Its boring but its better than fucking around with appetite suppression or being hungry all the time.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Glucoman and high protein medium fat meats, eggs and dairy. Your welcome

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >caffeine
    >tired

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Get an ADHD assessment.
    Its very easy to BS your way to a diagnosis.
    Ask for Vyvanse. Shit destroys appetite for like 14 hours from one dose.

    Also you will get more shit done.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hot peppers

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You probably didn't use a reasonable efficacious dose of nicotine. Try any real snus (not that American shit) and I can promise you that you'll cease your voracious appetite.

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >le cooma booba slooot
    >retarded question
    wowowowowow KYS KYS KYS KYS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCKING RETARD gay SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESH
    You will always be a fat retarded coomer

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    willpower

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Drink water.
    A lot of times when you think you are hungry it's because you are dehydrated.

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