No muscles on roids

I've been taking 500 mg of Test E per week for 10 weeks now and I've gained ZERO muscle. I haven't even gained strength, all my lifts are the same. The only thing that has changed is how many dips I can do.

The gear is 100% real because I took a blood test and my testosterone level was at 2800 ng/dL and estrogen was at 100 (now taking an AI).

I started the cycle eating 3500 calories a day, only gained fat in my belly so I cut it down to 2000-2500 after 7 weeks

What the fuck is going on? I thought people on roids gain MORE muscle than natty lifters without even exercising.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    That's if they're using the hard stuff
    you need muscle growth stimulation

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You dont. There was a study which found the participants on test e gained more muscle mass over the period than the natty group who lifted.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it was mostly water retention.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wrong
          >To determine whether the apparent changes in fat-free mass by DEXA scan and underwater weighing represented water retention, we measured total body water and compared the ratios of total body water to fat-free mass before and after treatment in each group. The ratios of total body water to fat-free mass by underwater weighing did not significantly change with treatment in any treatment group (Table 3), indicating that the apparent increase in fat-free mass measured by underwater weighing did not represent water retention in excess of that associated with protein accretion.
          https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajpendo.2001.281.6.E1172?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori%3Arid%3Acrossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%3Dpubmed&

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            oh. my bad

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah you're bad you fucking gay you just parrot what the roiders say when they try and act like they still gotta work real hard when in reality just taking roids gets you a better physique than just working out hard

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I'm OP. I've seen those studies and I don't dispute it, but why am I not gaining muscle when I'm not only roiding but also lifting weights?

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know anon. What's your routine?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've been doing:
      squats
      deadlifts
      OHP
      bicep curl
      rows
      calf raises

      3 sets to failure.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Reps???? You need volume. Bee blowing up on 1g test. Doubled lifts

        Also potentially high e2. Shbg stuff

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I've been going to failure each time. at first I was following the starting strength program and doing 3 sets of 5, but got pissed when nothing was happening. I felt like I must not be pushing myself hard enough in the gym. So now I go as hard as I physically can. I honestly hope I get injured. At least an injury would mean I'm lifting hard enough.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Retarded meme. 3x10

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Also always remember to increase the weight when you can 3x10 a given weight

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you probably have some kind of test receptor issue in your balls

    go see an endocrinologist at that point

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I've suspected that for a long time. Before I started roiding I got a baseline hormone test. I thought I was hypogonadal, even my family told me they think I am hypogonadal. Instead the blood test showed that my testosterone was nearly 1,000 ng/dL. I couldn't believe it. I do not look or act remotely in any way like someone who has 1,000 natural test level.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        your endocrinologist needs to be stripped of his degree if he failed to explain total vs free test to you
        you can have infinite test, but if your body refuses to utilise it then you'll never see the effects. happened to my old roommate, had like 1,100 ng/dL but got prescribed trt at the age of 24 because his body was using like 50 ng/dL of it and it was legitimately affecting his life

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    were you experiencing high estrogen symptoms? why are you taking an AI?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, I developed trouble sleeping and started getting really moody and emotional. Started getting suicidal thoughts. Got a moon face from bloating

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >no E2 reference or AI

        You've blown your resting test out of the water and subsequently have high E2. Slam 0.5mg Arimidex for a week E2D and you'll be back undercontrol.

        This is assuming you're not running orals ontop of exogenous testosterone.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm taking a gram of arimidex a week, after I got my bloods that high E2 around week 6.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Imagine that you didnt do research on not only what your putting inside your body, but also yourself before your cycle

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I did. I know my testosterone is really high even before roiding. I know that I'm skinny, anxious, and have symptoms of someone who is low T. So I believed I might have a low androgen receptor density. If that's true, then roiding would dramatically increase androgen receptor density by upregulating production. But that didn't happen.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        yeah thats not how that works, more t means more available to receptors, if you have no receptors to start , might as well be pissing in the ocean since all of the existing receptors are fully saturated. which is why you cant just take 5x more test to get 5x more results.

        you might get better results from something like nandrolone or tren, since the binding affinity is alot higher.

        worse case you'll need a myostatin inhibitor or /genetherapy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Sorry anon, like the other poster said that's not how it works

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    roids cant even fix you. its over.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Bunk gear. You'd know you're on 500mg test e around week 4.

    /thread

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have blood test results that say otherwise.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        bro's on a babby cycle and he already fucked his HDL.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's because like I've been saying in the /fraud/ threads for a bit now:
    >test
    >EQ
    >mast

    These compounds are shit for building muscle compared to literally everything else

    You would have gained much more doing 250 test EW + 30 var ED which would only be
    >460 mg anabolics per week

    less than your shitty
    >500 mg test per week

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I can still buy roids. I can purchase some anavar, though I'd prefer to inject it than drink it because I got a sensitive stomach. Do you really think anavar would make a difference for me?

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    These anime creepypasta pictures are fucking brilliant!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This one's really good since if you really look at it it's hard to see the Jeff the Killer face, but if you scroll by quickly it's the spitting image.

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    U got memed. Test does nothing, tren barely does anything. Real gains come from hardcore orals but they will make your life suffering

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Orals like anavar? How bad are the side effects? I'm willing to do it man, sick of looking weak and being weak.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I can see two faces.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'll assume this isnt a troll thread (it is) and ask why you think you can build muscle on 2000kcal a day unless you are a midget or a woman.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was on 3500kcal a day for the first 5 weeks and gained over 20 pounds of straight fat with no increase in my lifts. I can't fit half my pants anymore because my ass got so fat. I was 16% bf when I started and now I'm at 20%. I'm just hoping for a recomp now. If I kept eating 3500kcal a day I'd be fucking obese by now.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you're not trolling (you are) then you're just an idiot who has no idea what you're doing and should stop taking roids and take up interior decorating or something more suitable for your abilities
        tldr: fuck off gay

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not trolling. I've posted all of my labs and they are timestamped, you can see for yourself in this thread.

          >then you're just an idiot who has no idea what you're doing and should stop taking roids and take up interior decorating or something more suitable for your abilities
          tldr: fuck off gay

          At least I'm fucking trying asshole.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            then you literally have no idea how to diet and train.
            Stop taking roids, PCT then train natty until you figure out what your doing

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Even if I weren't lifting I should be gaining both muscle and strength see

              Wrong
              >To determine whether the apparent changes in fat-free mass by DEXA scan and underwater weighing represented water retention, we measured total body water and compared the ratios of total body water to fat-free mass before and after treatment in each group. The ratios of total body water to fat-free mass by underwater weighing did not significantly change with treatment in any treatment group (Table 3), indicating that the apparent increase in fat-free mass measured by underwater weighing did not represent water retention in excess of that associated with protein accretion.
              https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajpendo.2001.281.6.E1172?url_ver=Z39.88-2003&rfr_id=ori%3Arid%3Acrossref.org&rfr_dat=cr_pub%3Dpubmed&

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I dont care what these gay egghead studies say, you cannot gain significant muscle on steroids without working out.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >trying
            >cant make gains even with gear
            Pick one

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You should learn how to build muscle before taking steroids, because all steroids do is make you better at building muscle. 5x0 is still 0.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    feels good knowing I make more gains than roid trannies

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    probably because you fell for the retard meme of "gotta lift heavy to grow!!!!". The periods when I got the biggest and looked the best were when I did as LITTLE compound lifts as possible, with bench press being the only exception to this rule given the fatigue isn't crazy and it hits the shoulders, chest, and triceps hard.

    Squat 405 3x5 and have no energy to do any more quality volume after that? Nah, rather just do 6x15 leg extensions and not kms. 6 sets > 3 sets.

    Not only is 500mg test like nothing, but if you aren't busting your ass with volume (25 sets a session, MINIMUM, and that's if you're on an actual routine like push/pull 5x a week, you're wasting your time. If you're lifting 3x a week or some pussy shit like that just give up man. You need like 35+ sets a session on retard routines like that.

    dogshit exercises:

    OHP
    Squat
    deadlift

    like if you do these just give up trying to look good, unless you do them for fun or competition. Just don't delude yourself into thinking you need to deadlift to get a crazy back.

    tl;dr: volume is EVERYTHING. Do as light weight as possible (60% 1RM) and get more sets in. Not even gonna say eat more cause on 500mg test the recomping will fix your body over time, given you put the volume in.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      6x15 leg extensions

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      post body

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Your training sucks. When I started gear everything improved except my squat because my squat training sucked. When I fixed my routine and diet my squat shot up 50lbs.

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