>Although cupcakes and crumpets were still a long way off during the Middle Stone Age, new evidence suggests that at least some humans of that time period were eating starchy, cereal-based snacks as early as 105,000 years ago. The findings, gleaned from grass seed residue found on ancient African stone tools, are detailed online Thursday in Science.
>105,000 years ago
>evolutionarily significant
the monkey king and the buddha were white.
indian morons fuck off you're retarded go eat cow shit.
Only because we were starving and running out of meat. Grain is still goyslop and terrible for human health
You’re so fuckin stupid it’s wild
this
grains are poison, so what if some retard 100,000 years ago poisoned himself lol?
Kys Moxyte.
not your plebbitor nemesis, seethe
>this one guy is fat therefore keto bad
what a great argument
if keto works then why are the proponents obese?
maybe because they eat too much fucking food? you do know dietary fat can be stored as body fat through lipogenesis right?
yes, fat makes you fat, hence why keto doesn't work
>fat makes you fat
yes it is
you do know glucose (and therefore carbs) is way more easily turned into body fat, right? it's a way more efficient process from a thermodynamics point of view.
nice pseudoscience, did chiropractor berg tell you that?
no, if you must know it was chatgpt that explained the process in great length to me
>you do know glucose (and therefore carbs) is way more easily turned into body fat, right? it's a way more efficient process from a thermodynamics point of view.
This is so blatantly false, 98% of your bodyfat came from dietary fat because it's so readily directly stored as fat. 0-3% of dietary fat gets burned as heat, carbs is stored as glycogen then more readily burned off as heat before it can be converted into fat
You literally absorb fat you eat directly from small intestines into blood wherefrom it’s then directly absorbed by cells. Glucose requires converting first and it’s not efficient. Even if you hammer in two loafs of bread in one go your triglycerides won’t budge much.
So your plant based shit makes people fat, going by that logic, since you are obese.
Bro I just looked at your reddit, you're really a vegan, I thought people were just strawmanning, but you're from r/PlantBasedDiet, that's pretty cringe.
Also why do you hide that you're the mod of r/KetoDuped? You're weird lol. Why do you even post here? You're obviously not into fitness.
https://www.reddit.com/user/moxyte/
>Also why do you hide that you're the mod of r/KetoDuped?
because i'm not him, ketoschizo
You sound like patrick tomlinson
>one day for no reason at all humans decided to put in collective effort to systematically farm toxic grains for food nobody had ever eaten before
This is what carnitards actually believe
What happened was essentially:
>a few people gain control of a really large tribe
>hm, there's not enough meat. I don't want to give the others my meat, but I still want them alive so they can do stuff. They can eat grain
That is the whole basis for agriculture based societies. Grain is meant for the lower less valuable classes who are needed alive for work but not needed to be healthy.
That’s pure imagination based only on your mental illness
it's what happened
Food availability shot up but food quality went down. That's why people during this period were shorter than hunter-gatherers, that's why slaves are given grains-only, that's why mongols were much taller and stockier than chinese etc.
>muh ancestors ate le raw meat keto diet
Suppose that is true after 100k years the human body has changed and has adapted to grains. Todays humans are different than 100k years ago. So your ancestors made it so grains are healthy for you today. Eat grains.
Basically this, same way we Europeans can drink milk, grains have been the backbone of every successful civilization and the primary source of food, it would be foolish to believe that we have not adapted to this over the past 100k years
imagine believing food that's good enough for a horse isn't also good enough for a man.
thats not how it works, dumbass. have you tried eating a gorillas diet? theyre big and strong so it must work for us too
They weren't eating it to the extent that we do. And it was only in season.
They weren't eating anything to the extent that we do
Article claims
>feasting
when the "evidence" is
seed residue found on ancient African stone tools
>implying it's just not the tool of some prehistoric autist who just likes cutting grass seeds open
>implying it's not just grass seed residue from a speartip or knifeehead crushing grass seeds during a hunt
>implying it's not a vast ocean of other possibilities
>implying the authors were even accurate in their dating
You're as stupid as the authors if you think this means anything.
Tbf that is all of ancient history research and findings
It's just guessing what happened based on extremely little evidence
what the fuck. there are millions of people around the world that don't eat bread or grains and they're perfectly fine. fuck, up until like 50 years ago people were just eating whatever they could grow/farm/find within a hundred miles, and it wasn't until the 80s fitness fad and the 90s pseudoscience and the 00s boom in spread knowledge and the '10s fakenews that we got to this point to where we have no idea what the fuck to eat anymore when in reality, it doesn't fucking matter. don't eat a ton of sugar/refined flour/alcohol/brain matter, and you'll be fine.
wanna know the real killers?
>stress
>loneliness
>substance abuse
>lack of physical activity
>smoking
so who the fuck cares if someone eats grains or not? our bodies are gonna be just fucking fine without them.
Grug mashed up some seeds 38 million suns ago
this is just like your seed oil bread
kek thanks rabbi. About to go have my daily 5 tbsp of canola oil like the govt reccomends for a healthy heart
Retarded dietary patterns like carnivore diet (keto is harmless if done right) exists only because of American grift culture. All the carnivore diet promoters are either grifters who sell you supplement or said grifters victim or mentally unstable people like Jordan Peterson. Eating grains is fine. The problem is eating restarted american cake products that aren't even food
>Scientific American™
They said that the vaxx was "safe and effective". Everything they say I now believe to be a lie and for the inverse to be true.
Now I know that humans ate no grains 100k years ago.
>grass seed residue found on ancient African stone tools
>this means "humans feasting on grains"
i wonder if people will still be arguing about this stupid shit 100,000 years from now lmao
Most vegans are antinatalists (they hate themselves), so they will be selecting themselves out of the gene pool anyway.
It's a self-resolving issue.
>VEGANS REEEEE!
the meme writes itself
Are you antinatalist?
what do you think, here is him
No. At some point keto scam comes crumbling down and ketofags will be hanged from lamp posts (and that’s a good thing). Truth always wins eventually.
"b- but todays grains are different!"
modern grains are worse. Neither are good
Carnivore diet is retarded and built on a flawed and reductionist premise. Keto is fine as a short term treatment for various metabolic issues not as a long term lifestyle. Veganism is clearly suboptimal and only sustainable with careful planning or supplementation.
>Keto is fine as a short term treatment for various metabolic issues not as a long term lifestyle
no it's not
this isnt a keto thread
grains are still dogshit food
and i eat carbs because i actually lift
you dont
what now vegan schizo?
>1 random study by literal whos vs 1000 proper studies
>HEY GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!
every
fucking
time
fit is the dumbest fucking board by far on this shitty retarded website
71066287
>HIDE MOXYTE THREADS
>IGNORE MOXTYE POSTS
>DO NOT REPLY TO MOXYTE POSTERS
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19641727/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6371871/#:~:text=Ketogenic%20diets%20can%20help%20patients,10%20kg%20with%20any%20diet.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7641470/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2690585/
https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/0003-4819-140-10-200405180-00007
History is just whatever they tell us it is
Science is being held hostage by corporate interests, archaeology is the most closed off field of study there is, they don't like new data which upsets the previously drawn narrative.
I never got the obsession with finding the "ancestral" diet when the data shows 100% that we are obligate omnivores that ate whatever the fuck we could find, wherever we were in the world, because we were always fucking starving and barely holding onto life.
Literally do not care what ugg ugg or Imhotep were eating for lunch
Slave food.