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Post yfw the secret to low body fat was sugar, 2% milk and orange juice.

  1. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    There's a whole bunch of shit from Peat that I'm ignoring but so much of it is really spot-on. He's the only person I've ever encountered that has warned against avocado, and he was right about that. He's obviously right about seed oils. Since I started having fruit at the end of a meal I no longer get tired post-meal.

    His thing with sugar is too extreme for me so I just eat fruit and occasionally ice-cream I make myself.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also honey on toast with some butter. It's my go-to desert.

      I dropped seed oils and added fruit and honey and I lost 4 kgs in a month while making zero effort to diet.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        If you're in a place that you need to lose weight you're already a fatass and your parents had already failed you. You're a retard who should've give advice to anyone. You falling for a grift diet already makes everyone around you laugh at you. IMO grifters are worse than ketotrannies.
        I will not eat the chiropractor diet. I will eat a balanced diet and laugh at the griftrannies.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          How is being anti-seed oil a grift? No one is selling anything

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            He's selling himself. Idk who This dude is or what he's saying but the fact that he's being posted here means he's gaining or trying to gain a following, and clicks mean money. Never forget that in today's world you are the product.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >He's selling himself
              he's just writing articles and newsletters about endocrinology
              >the fact that he's being posted here means he's gaining or trying to gain a following, and clicks mean money
              he doesn't even have ads on his website you absolute retard

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                absolute retard. dude is born 1936, despises the modern corporate word, even stepped back from the company producing progest-e, a process he actually patented, because he did not like the thought of writing about a topic he might profit from financially

                Then he's an idiot just like you samefag. If he's not actively click mining then he's benefitting from it regardless. Again I know nothing about this dude or what he preaches or practices, but if his ideas are showing up here then he's making money in some small way due to added traffic to his site through advertising revenue. If you're not the man himself, which I strongly suspect you are, then you are the product being sold to the advertisers by the content you're watching. I'm not saying don't watch anything because everything is tainted. I'm just saying be skeptical of any idea in this day and age because the motivations of every content creator is suspect.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Then he's an idiot just like you samefag
                meds schizo

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                His 99.9999% text-only website doesn't have any fucking ads

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/sa0iDqS.jpg

                >Then he's an idiot just like you samefag
                meds schizo

                oh and to add, again, he doesn't have any ads and he's an unironic Marxist (not your gay and moron worshipping Marxist like all western Marxists who for some reason love sucking corporation's dicks). It's the gurus who grift people with their supplements, i doubt he even cares that much about money

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                why are you everywhere???

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Ray peat recommends high sugar diet
                >this garden gnome calling peater ketolard
                >mfw

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                wtf are you talking about moron? i'm not a ketofag and even i hate that spamming gay as much as you do

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                So I understand garden gnomes like playing multiple sides... but the playground is in Auschwitz my friend, not here. Then we can laugh.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                i don't even know what you're talking about, are you accusing me of being a garden gnome? fuck off if you think that, peatchads don't listen to any gnomish funded studies

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              absolute retard. dude is born 1936, despises the modern corporate word, even stepped back from the company producing progest-e, a process he actually patented, because he did not like the thought of writing about a topic he might profit from financially

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Shut up garden gnomeberg and fuck off back into the cave you came from.

              Christ is King

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >some 80-90 year old academic who writes technical newsletters about biochemistry and interacts soley through email and phone calls with no social media is some kind of sigma male grinder

              jesus dude, if you don't know what a thread is talking about just shut the fuck up, you don't need to contribute dogshit , you don't get points for word count on IST

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >t.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone who thinks Peat is wrong should check out durianrider

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        doesnt he do large amounts of endurance cardio, which Peat explicitly cautions against

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >His thing with sugar is too extreme
      he has reasonable takes about sugar, it's the retards on RPF who take it way too extreme

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      qrd or tldr for people who have no idea who he is or what he preaches?

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Maximising biological energy (metabolism) is, by definition good for you, as you are literally more alive.

        Peat thusly recommends foods which increase metabolism, such as fructose sugars (fruits), fish, egg yolks, butter, and stuff like progesterone, pregnenolone, DHEA, thyroid

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          thanks, brother

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        things he's spot on
        >PUFA bad
        >sugar good
        >sat fat good
        >milk good
        >eggs good
        >progesterone good
        >OJ good
        >serotonin bad
        >wheat bad
        >potato good
        >coconut oil good
        >organ meat good
        >just take T3 if you're a lardass
        >fish oil bad

        things he said that should be taken with a grain of salt
        >aspirin everyday
        >juice better than whole fruits
        >tryptophan bad even though he advocates for things like milk which is high in tryptophan
        >coke good

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Polyunsaturated fatty acids are promoted as "heart healthy" by the american heart association and Harvard. The AHA were able to promote this message after a grant from P&G, who were beginning to make crisco from the refuse of cotton production. The marketing in combination with this research led to PUFA replacing saturated fats in the western diet, the timing of which is correlated with both the rise in obesity and the rise in heart attacks.

          Polyunsaturated fatty acids are unstable, meaning they oxidize easily compared to saturated fats. This oxidization produces toxic compounds, and PUFA stored in the body as linoleic acid also oxidizes easily.

          When this was all kicking off, the AHA used mental institutions to conduct a massive RCT about saturated vs unsaturated fat in diets. When they found that unsaturated fats actually increased mortality they just refused to publish the data and it was only discovered decades later

          Peat says a bunch of other stuff but that's the gist of all the seed oil stuff, which is really the most important topic

          thank you. sounds interesting and something one should look into

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            you can go to raypeat.com if you want to read his articles or you can just email the man himself if you have any questions

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              I hope BAP twitter didn't email him using that annoying broken kid language they use

              >dear ray peat I lyk stuff, mayb u lyk stuff too

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Even BAP writes normally when serious and not catering to his own group.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Fact check: True

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >like milk which is high in tryptophan
          Yeah but the benefits of milk simply outweigh that. Calciummaxxing is a benefit of its own.

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          Can someone tell why fish oil bad? AFIK common people have very unbalanced omega 3:6 ratio, because of sneed oils, and omega 3 fish oils will balance it out. Yes?

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's not the easiest article to summarize

            https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fishoil.shtml

            He was vindicated in some relatively recent research though:

            https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3735464/

            >This study confirms previous reports of increased prostate cancer risk among men with high blood concentrations of LCω-3PUFA. The consistency of these findings suggests that these fatty acids are involved in prostate tumorigenesis. Recommendations to increase LCω-3PUFA intake should consider its potential risks.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              that's an observational study that did not involve supplementation. also a highly confounded cohort

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          disagree on "sugar good". fruit is fine, but added sugar should be avoided. fruit juices (including OJ) don't seem like a good idea. also, I think "tryptophan bad" is true.

          Can someone tell why fish oil bad? AFIK common people have very unbalanced omega 3:6 ratio, because of sneed oils, and omega 3 fish oils will balance it out. Yes?

          a balanced omega 3:6 ratio is important, but you want to achieve it by keeping both low. not by taking in a lot of omega 3 to compensate the immense amount of omega 6 in modern food. graph in image attached shows that low (but non-zero) amounts of omega 3 and 6 give the best result.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >omega 3/6 ratio
            >added sugar bad
            Boring

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              i still think that despite what Peat said, corn syrup and HFCS are bad not because of the fructose but because corns have been genetically modified to the tits to resist roundup and god knows what else and it's even cheaper than sugar so companies abuse the shit out of it

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah, yeah I'm not American so we don't use that stuff here. So you're not wrong about that. HFCS is basically a starch isn't it?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >HFCS is basically a starch isn't it?
                yes and there's probably more than meets the eye regarding corn syrup. Corn itself is suHispanicious since Peat himself cited a research in one of his articles that said that corn farmers in the US have a quite alarming cancer rate

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Polyunsaturated fatty acids are promoted as "heart healthy" by the american heart association and Harvard. The AHA were able to promote this message after a grant from P&G, who were beginning to make crisco from the refuse of cotton production. The marketing in combination with this research led to PUFA replacing saturated fats in the western diet, the timing of which is correlated with both the rise in obesity and the rise in heart attacks.

        Polyunsaturated fatty acids are unstable, meaning they oxidize easily compared to saturated fats. This oxidization produces toxic compounds, and PUFA stored in the body as linoleic acid also oxidizes easily.

        When this was all kicking off, the AHA used mental institutions to conduct a massive RCT about saturated vs unsaturated fat in diets. When they found that unsaturated fats actually increased mortality they just refused to publish the data and it was only discovered decades later

        Peat says a bunch of other stuff but that's the gist of all the seed oil stuff, which is really the most important topic

  2. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Post yfw the secret to low body fat was sugar, 2% milk and orange juice.
    Explain?

  3. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    i think about peat whenever i drink milk from the carton.
    what’s the deal with the 2%? i only drink whole milk

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      i think he said that if you're buying mass produced milk, it's better to go low fat or even skim because the hormones injected into the cows stay in the milk fat or something causing allergenic reactions to some people

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        interesting, maybe the milk is better in japan. my wife and i have issues when we drink it in the US but not here

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Don't industrial cows have growth hormone in their milk? I thought that's the kind of hormone people want to get more of here

  4. 5 months ago
    I love Women

    >start to eat great amounts of sugar
    >no seed oils
    >lose fat, gain muscle
    literally everything ~~*they*~~ tell you is a lie

  5. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
  6. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Really like the guy and I follow more and more of his stuff as time goes on but I can't also give up the seafood PUFAs too, I love mackerel, herring, salmon, sardines just lots of fatty fish throughout the week. I love the taste and getting rid of seed oils and other garbage probably already gets you at least 90% of the way, I'm not a biohacker sacrificing everything to get to 100%.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think his seafood writing is some of his weakest. Sometimes he'll drift into anecdotes, and one of his is that he met some guy who was retarded (or whatever it was) because he lived exclusively off seafood. It's not the most convincing argument.

  7. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why 2%?

  8. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    garden gnomes hate Peat threads

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      oh vey they question the ~~*slob)), shut it down!!!!!

  9. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    pls explain

  10. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Just a carb heavy diet that leaves nothing out and is meant to optimize metabolism.

      It also caters to people that have fucked up metabolism/digestion that want to fix that.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      Some of this is off I think. He wouldn't recommend most of the above ground vegetables. Spinach would be out entirely because he suggests only eating above ground vegetables that can be cooked. He wouldn't recommend the starches at all, or they would come with caveats like only using wheat if you using a sourdough.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        Doesnt he like them in moderation if you cook them properly?

        He gives seperate advice to people that are in metabolic distress and generally healthy people.

        I might be wrong though.

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I think he recommends rice and tubers as the source of your starch and nothing else

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          This may be possible and explains why probb only eat rice, 0 inflammation means smaller gut. Idk to be honest.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            Pro bodybuilders I mean with probb

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            i also think that's why Asians are rather skelly even though they eat a shit ton of rice. Thing is, Asians have a quite high rate of type 2 beetus over the years, i used to think it's because they eat a lot of rice but after taking the peatpill, i suspect it's not the rice but the prevalence of PUFA bombs like foods fried in seed oils over the recent years

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yep, they tend to praise stuff like meat but see it as a luxury, drink basedmilk and fry their foods a lot.

              Otherwise they are in the right direction pretty much.

              It is like the Israeli-French paradox, or how Dutch people are tall and healthy despite having insane dairy consumption.

              What makes the Peat diet appealing is how close it is to traditional diets which make me believe it more. Fuck seed oils. Since quitting that stuff my skin barely burns anymore, so I can only imagine how my internal organs are doing without it.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              they're getting problems the west is getting because their cuisine is westernizing. They have a lot more bread, cake, baked goods, and a moving away from their traditional staples. People like mongols and north chinese, tibetans are pretty well adapted to eating wheat products as a stable carb with low fiber but they tend to get more diabetes. Their genes are also westernizing lots of biracial children so I'd expect that to increase their rate of diabetes a significantly too.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >People like mongols and north chinese, tibetans are pretty well adapted to eating wheat products as a stable carb with low fiber but they tend to get more diabetes.
                i think it's because they eat more unleavened bread. Peat doesn't have any problem with naturally fermented sourdoughs if i'm not mistaken, and i don't know about his opinions on barley because the Mongols and Tibetans eat a lot of barley

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nothing to do with westernizing, there are good sides and bad sides.

                If they only take the McDonalds but ignore the rest then of course they are in big trouble.

                French vs Isreali paradox, butter vs seed oil.
                Dutch people and their dairy consumption.

  11. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Great, another genius guy another revolutionary diet and another community full of shills who swear the diet cured their cancer, grew their dick and raised their IQ. I’ll just stick to my intuitive normal eating thanks

  12. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >post yfw the secret to low body fat was sugar, 2% milk and orange juice.

  13. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    i love how Peat threads make ketocels and CICOtards seethe

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah, especially the seed oil shills

  14. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Me whenever I see the 23464552345th dyel shoving oats and fish oil in his mouth, trying to get "healthy"

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >shoving oats and fish oil in his mouth, trying to get "healthy"
      this but with dyels when they're shoving jars of peanut butters and got surprised when they get fat instead

  15. 5 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      bugmen would unironically defend this for free if their beloved corporations told them to

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        >UMM WHATS YOUR SOURCE THAT SAYS MICROPLASTICS ARE BAD?

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          schizo

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            >DID YOU JUST QUESTION THE ESTABLISHED SCIENCE FUNDED BY MONSANTO?? I'M SICK OF THESE SCHIZO SCIENCE DENYING CHUDS

  16. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >go to rpf to discuss rp related topic
    >threads are all boomer takes on current year related events
    Decades of lead poisioning isn't enough to explain their schizo ramblings

  17. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    >eats Peat approved foods for the last month
    >no more bloating
    it's so easy bros

  18. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ray peat is one of the most straight up retarded mother fuckers that exist. The only thing he is remotely right on is seed oils / PUFA ( which he isn't even fully right on ) and he uses that to justify all the other stupid shit he says.

    He doesn't believe in glycation or any other form of aging and believes aging is caused purely by pufa. To this end he believes you should minimize consumption of all fat. He doesn't believe omega 3 or omega 6 fatty acids are essential for humans and that you should intentionally deprive yourself of them.

    Have you seen him actually speak? He is a stuttering retard. I wanted to learn why he decided humans are best adapted to eating sugar from domesticated plants and why the fuck he drinks skim milk, so I looked up a few of his Q&A's. The dude can barely put out a sentence a minute and he stutters on EVERY SINGLE WORD.

    Oh yeah and his reasoning for humans being more adapted to eating sugar instead of fat like paleolithic man is because one tiny retarded squirrel species has a large brain for it's body size and it eats lots of sugar, so supposedly sugar = big brain or something. He's just completely retarded, but you can't expect much when he gets all his calories from orange juice, the most glyphosate ridden food there is, and FUCKING SKIM MILK LMAO.

    The real rundown on diet is
    >Organ meat
    >Raw milk
    >Raw eggs
    >Beef fat

    Goodnight.

    • 5 months ago
      Anonymous

      >He doesn't believe in glycation or any other form of aging and believes aging is caused purely by pufa
      stopp reading with this retarded sentence
      literally none of your arguments are original, they're just spam.

      also
      >we need to eat le heckin ancestral diet even though we live in completely different conditions to our ancestors beacuse...

      • 5 months ago
        Anonymous

        I wonder why the agents on this board are trying to shill for ray peat so hard

        Surely they are getting paid, but it's hard to imagine they are when this one couldn't even come up with a decent response to my post and just made himself look like a retard

        • 5 months ago
          Anonymous

          >calls others shills
          >literally spams the same retard adhom counterargument everytime

          You don't get "decent responses" because
          A) You wouldn't know one if you saw it
          B) You don't actually make any arguments worthy of one.

          • 5 months ago
            Anonymous

            I've never replied to any other ray peat thread. The fact that you get the same criticizes is likely because there are clear holes in ray peats views on health.

            Humans were made to derive our energy from saturated fat, not sugar, that is an undeniable fact.

            Glycation exists and is the main method of aging, ray peat pretends it does not exist because it goes directly against his retarded diet theories.

            This is your last chance to not look like a complete shill by the way, so you should try and put a bit of effort into this last reply.

            • 5 months ago
              Anonymous

              >The fact that you get the same criticizes is likely because there are clear holes in ray peats views on health.
              Lazy, adhom arguments pulled out the ass of every passing by ketocultist and whatever other retard diet doesn't mean the flaw lies with Peat.

              >Humans were made to derive our energy from saturated fat, not sugar, that is an undeniable fact.
              Sugar is energy. Even the most basic organisms use it for fuel, that's its literal purpose.

              >Glycation exists and is the main method of aging,
              No, stress is. Pull your head out of your ass ketomonkey

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                exists and is the main method of aging,
                >No, stress is. Pull your head out of your ass ketomonkey
                Lifting weights and doing cardio is stress. we should stop doing that to extend lifespan and heath.

                Oh, by the way, glycation is stress at the cellular level.

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Lifting weights and doing cardio is stress.
                Concentric exercise is restorative. Cardio is estrogenic and catabolic.
                Have you considered maybe reading the content you're engaging with, before you argue against it?

                >Oh, by the way, glycation is stress at the cellular level.
                Are you conflating proper glucose metabolism with glycation?
                Do you know why cortisol is referred to as a glucocorticoid?

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Cardio is estrogenic and catabolic
                this is one of the things he said that i still don't buy. Sure excess cardio is bad seeing how cyclists, soccer players, and marathon runners got the occasional heart attacks (the PEDs and vaccines probably made it worse). But people who never do any cardio like most powershitters are also at risk of getting heart attacks

              • 5 months ago
                Anonymous

                At lot of people are at risk of heart attacks now, because they consume sneed oils and pufas. You can just walk a lot anyway.

  19. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    what should i avoid when i'm buying orange juices?

  20. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    peats diet is probably not manageable for most people
    dont forget that its a high thyroid diet, not a recovery diet. if you take a hypothyroid person with issues digesting dairy and get the to pound lots of milk they wont magically get better.

  21. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    holy fuck I started drinking raw milk recently and all my digestive problems are just gone, how come nobody told me that pasteurized milk is basically g$$$yslob?
    anyone else in here taken the rawmilk pill?

  22. 5 months ago
    Anonymous

    Are oats peat approved?

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