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  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    for most beginners, squats and deadlifts are not needed. unilateral leg exercises are better for their mobility and aesthethics, as well as general health.
    you can build a great upper body only calisthenics and using weights for accessories, as long as you do calisthenics for muscles and not skills.
    most lifters, especially poweifters, have bad posture.
    if you train correctly from the beginning you should never get injured.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      So what your saying is that most beginners would gain more from cardio because they're already fat and have no muscles and you think this would help their posture as well. I'm sure that's true but I don't really see how that means they shouldn't also lift weights, do squats and deadlifts etc. If they lifted weights and also did cardio, or even just lifted weights and dieted they would achieve the same results.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        No bro. I think cardio would help but doing calisthenics with perfect form is a bodybuilding work out, not cardio.
        Try to do 20-30 dead hang, sternum pull ups... you will grow wing-like lats and very thick upper back. there's a guy, k boges on youtube, and he shows you how you don't need to do super weird variations to become stronger and bigger for the upper body, but you need to treat them like bodybuilding movements

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >calisthenics with perfect form
          as someone who had to do calisthenics because I had no weights and was not paying 10$ per lb, I will say beginners are not able to do calisthenics in perfect form, and will end up injuring themselves.

          you have to have some form of a base to even start and weights are FAR more forgiving with form, granted i'm not talking do a standing bench press and call it an overhead press bad form, but minor form problems don't end up near crippling you.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >unilateral leg exercises are better for their mobility and aesthethics, as well as general health.
      This is one thing that I keep insisting on, but for some reason almost everyone has a hard time accepting this. In virtually every real life activity, including those requiring significant physical strength, the lower body works in an alternating unilateral pattern. You almost never have to push with both legs at the same time, the only actual activity that comes to mind that actually demands this is jumping, and even then, it requires an explosive, fast movement, not the slow, controlled brute force strength that is required by heavy squats.

      As for the deadlift, the mechanics are completely unrealistic since you can almost never place your feet right below the object you're trying to lift.

      The truth is that the exaggerated emphasis on the squat and the deadlift is a relic of boomer macho culture that has no place nowadays. Most people who aren't professional athletes of any sort are better off avoiding them.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Most people who aren't professional athletes of any sort are better off avoiding them.
        why would athletes do them if they're not worthwhile?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          they present advantages for their specific sport
          but even then it's complicated. most wrestlers don't do mainly standard deadlifts, but variations, like trap bar deadlifts.
          most olympic weightlifters don't deadlift at all

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >it requires an explosive, fast movement, not the slow, controlled brute force strength that is required by heavy squats.
        Deadlifts build explosive strength moron

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          No they don't. Not even Rippletits agrees.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Squats 100% made me better at sex, which is a good enough reason for me to do them.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          It probably did, but not for the reason you think.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Squeezing your glutes like kegels did wonders
          >double dubs
          The Kek of IST approves

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Have you ever actually done any amount of landscaping or construction with only handtools? The main way to move shit around is to lift it up and place it where it is needed, in a motion that is usually no different than deadlifting, now with extra walking. Same can be said about diggging roots of a spruce up from the ground, you cut a root from the trunk, then take a good grip and pull as hard as you can, in very deadlift like motion, and ideally the root tears from the ground. Also yes, ESL, but where do you think shit like this is done without mechanical equippement?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          NTA but I've done plenty of physical jobs before. The only one where deadlift+style motions were remotely useful (ie bilateral leg drive lifting) was when I was delivering sofas.
          When I've worked construction, the most useful "gym" movement has been isometric bodyweight squatting to keep my body at a lowered height whilst working with hand tools.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      What do I replace squats and deadlifts with if all I have is a rack and barbell?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        ATG split squats KOT style and romanian deadlifts

        What are your thoughts on single leg deadlifts?

        good if romanian, make sure the form is perfect though

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      What are your thoughts on single leg deadlifts?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >you can build a great upper body only calisthenics and using weights for accessories, as long as you do calisthenics for muscles and not skills.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        man this has got me questioning if these guys are bullshitting or if this is actually that hard due to leverage. i mean a 45lb delt raise isnt nothing. do you have to keep your arm straight and not use your legs?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          yes its a front raise with no cheating, so they cant bend their arms or use their legs. its hard

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Can you do it gay? Post video for proof. Guess you cannot do 1 pullup too.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        lifting 40 pounds with a straight arm like that is incredibly hard. i bet most gyms dont have a single person that could do it without cheating

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        i just tried and I cant do it 🙁
        I can only side delt raise 20 lbs, OHP 110, and i never do front raises

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You made me realize that I should've tried to get into Nordic leg curls when I was a complete beginner and a bit lighter. I did that for pull ups and dips and I can still do them even though I'm heavier.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        you can regress them. kness over toes guy has a guide on how to start with a regressed version and then progress until a full nordic curl

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Pullups are all you need to look good.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      To normies, yeah. People who lift seriously here aren't trying to achieve normie-standards aesthetics.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        In other words, steroid users. Enjoy your heart attack, gay.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          5 year old's black and white thinking

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Most people here look worse than the guy cranking 20 pullups per day.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I just cranked 20 pullups

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I always bench press to failure (meaning until I fail to lift it again and have to roll under t). I don't need a spotter, just the security things on the sides to hold the bar. ''Roll of shame'' is for retards that go to cheap gyms with no safe spots on the BP station and ego lift for instagram or some other bullshit (basically betas). You will never get better if you don't fail and fail over again. The point is not to be alpha but to overcome yourself. Fags that take pics in the gym don't get it.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I like the idea of getting an extra negative rep at the end but then reracking the weight for the next set is going to be annoying

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    don't do gomad if you care about body comp

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't gomad a literal meme?

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    "Tomboys" and IST women are a complete meme in real life. Most of them look hideous because they literally look and act like men and not only that, they have more sexual mileage than the local town bike because they hang out with men 24/7.

    Women, in general, are a meme and this board + most of the internet places too much importance on them. What IST really wants is a rural country girl that grew up working on the farm, driving tractors around and shit that was not coddled growing up but still has feminity in her personality and character.

    The best cycle is TRT + anavar (or SARMs). No one likes the roided golem meme.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I want a tokyo urbanite salarywoman to soak in the onsen with me in an expensive love hotel she paid for.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >"Tomboys" and IST women are a complete meme in real life.
      That's true, the meme is a platonic ideal. More likely is being able to find someone who shares some of your interests and is in good enough physical shape to keep up with you for the most part.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I dated a tomboy for a while. Cargo shorts, no make up, simple hairstyle, the whole thing. It’s only a good idea on paper. Without feminine aspects or virtues or whatever you want to call it, there’s just not as much attraction, especially after the first few months. I still like the memes though.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Women, in general, are a meme and this board + most of the internet places too much importance on them. What IST really wants is a rural country girl that grew up working on the farm, driving tractors around and shit that was not coddled growing up but still has feminity in her personality and character.
      Yeah I worked with one of those for awhile. She was tattooed, drank, smoked, and got nicknamed "skis" in highschool for giving 2 guys a handjob at the same time.
      Women are women you stupid moron, they will do this shit no matter how you try to cope and rationalize that it's not ALL women, and that your idolized le pure virgin trad wife is out there somewhere.
      Women suck. Men suck. Fags suck. Trannies suck. Embrace the suck or be celibate.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >embrace the suck
        The only time I admire women are when they are embracing the suck, if you fellas catch my drift.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      depends. what we really all want is an athletic womanly cute female. aka - a stacy thats addicted to making her ass bigger.
      my girl is tomboyish, she loves video games even more than me, she thinks makeup, and typical female things like gossiping and buying clothes etc is lame. she also is chill and doesnt buy into this whole man vs women feminist bullshit. but she was also super lazy when I met her, now I got her getting her butt to the gym. basically implied that if she doesnt work on her body/health then im out.

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Powerlifting is shit.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      gay bodybuilder detected

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      90% of this board shittalks powerlifting how is that controversial numb nuts. at least they lift

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You only need isometrics for strength training.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you know how to do them right

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    - dumbbell bench press > barbell bench press
    - hex bar deadlifts can replace both conventional deadlifts and squats
    - seated dip machines are an underrated exercise since it allows you to hit the target muscles harder without worrying about balance and form
    - the pullover machine is a superior back exercise
    - ramp-up sets > sets across
    - SL/SS should only be run for 3 months to learn the basic lifts

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    cardio doesn't kill gains. runners are dyel because they literally don't lift

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anything other than otter mode looks absolutely retarded. Most girls would choose a twink over a bodybuilder any day of the week.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Otter mode looks retarded. It's a cope because it takes no effort and you can achieve it in 6 months of eating like a girl and doing calisthenics

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >12 inch arms

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          I unironically achieved that body in 4 months with p90x when it was the big craze.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            post body

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            >p90x when it was the big craze
            bro people have been using it since the early 2000s

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah but they would chose a fairly jacked guy over a twink.
        obviously most people find bodybuilders grotesque but nobody that's natural is gonna be so big while being lean that its considered too big and chosen after some twink DYEL

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          meant to reply to

          Anything other than otter mode looks absolutely retarded. Most girls would choose a twink over a bodybuilder any day of the week.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yet it looks better than most people here.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The importance of rest and protein is overrated

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I will now proceed to build this building, but the workers get no breaks and they also get no materials

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        t. China

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Anyone know his stack for such massives loads?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        if you don't want to supplement then: eggs, milk, protein and shit ton of water. also nofap for at least a week + look at hot girls. no porn. if at all look at cute ecchi pics. this way i cum so hard i nearly pass out

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >The zealotry that surrounds the big 4 is bullshit, unless you have the specific goal of getting better at those movements.
    >The dumbasses obsessed with 1/2/3/4 couldn't do a pullup to save their lives and have no concept of a balanced physique.
    >Cardio is more important than weights.
    >Powerlifting is a sick joke.
    >Rippetoe should be banished from all gyms.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The dumbasses obsessed with 1/2/3/4 couldn't do a pullup to save their lives and have no concept of a balanced physique.
      You act like you need to be bulky to hit 1234 hahaha I was like 155 when i hit thousands pound club and could do 20 pullups. Stop coping for the fact you can't hit a 3pl8 squat or some shit

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You have the reading comprehension of a child.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >1/2/3/4
      I don't even know what this means and have never even heard of it outside of this board.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Number of plates on OHP/Bench/Squat/Deadlift
        135 OHP
        225 Bench
        315 Squat
        405 Deadlift
        it's arbitrary, ignores bodyweight ratios, and people can't even agree on how many reps. but still makes dyels seethe

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          This makes feel better. I struggle to reach 1/2/4 while my squat keeps going up.

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everything you know is a lie.
    Obesity is from malnutrition, not overeating.
    Hunters gatherers in fact do almost nothing, it's a life of leisure.
    Most of body fat, likely actually all subcutaneous fat in humans is steatosis, not "energy stores" and can't be used as such. The omentum is the fat storage in people, once you use it up you either binge or begin starving.
    Even going to the gym may only work by moving nutrients into the muscles at the expense for the rest of the body. That is you do get your physique, but fuck up your body in other ways, as your vital organs become even more malnourished.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Schizo.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is probably the most retarded take I have seen on this god-forsaken website, well done

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    rep ranges don't matter that much in how you end up looking (within reason). the old strength vs hypertrophy type stuff. intensity and diet are the determining factors.

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    training 7 times a week is not going to be overtraining for most people as they don't train hard enough but they still use overtraining as cope to only go 3 times a week

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you can't do a 5k in 37 minutes and there's nothing wrong with your joints, yngmi

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Beginners shouldn't do sets of 5.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I feel like this is true being a beginner and going from sets of 5 to 10, I don't think as a beginner I was able to really lift enough weight for 5 reps to be enough mentally, I could probably do it physically then but I felt like I couldn't so I didn't and I should have been doing sets of 10 so I could actually go to failure. I hope that makes sense, I agree with you.

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    programs are a meme, it doesn't matter what you do as long as you hit every muscle and progressive overload, a shit routine yields as many results as one that looks good on paper.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >progressive overload
      GL doing this on a poorly optimized program jumping from movement to movement trying to rewire neurological adaptations and getting sore after every workout.

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    "Ottermode" is dyel cope and it's hilarious how many threads there are asking how to look dyel
    Deadlifts are a meme but squats are the best exercise

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      see

      https://i.imgur.com/n8jEkWs.jpg

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everybody is coping. Powerlifting, bodybuilding, roiding, natty lifting, it’s all cope but that’s fine

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Bulking (actually building muscle and not just getting fat) is far more difficult than cutting. Building muscle while cutting is unrealistic. CNS gains and the willpower required to constantly push your body to failure are the most worthwhile benefits you will get from the gym. Lifting will help you get women, but if you struggled before getting IST you'll likely still struggle after and need to work on other areas of your life. Take psychedelics!

      Everything you know is a lie.
      Obesity is from malnutrition, not overeating.
      Hunters gatherers in fact do almost nothing, it's a life of leisure.
      Most of body fat, likely actually all subcutaneous fat in humans is steatosis, not "energy stores" and can't be used as such. The omentum is the fat storage in people, once you use it up you either binge or begin starving.
      Even going to the gym may only work by moving nutrients into the muscles at the expense for the rest of the body. That is you do get your physique, but fuck up your body in other ways, as your vital organs become even more malnourished.

      Dubs of truth
      >Hunters gatherers in fact do almost nothing, it's a life of leisure.
      There is a reason homo erectus was so widespread. We were very well adapted for survival in many environments.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Living is cope.
      Death is real.

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    There is literally NOTHING wrong with a classic 5-day bro split. It has always worked, even for naturals, and will always work, I don't care that the internet suddenly decided that it no longer does.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >5-day bro split
      What's that? Sounds like it would hurt.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Basically training each body part 1 time per week. Old school bodybuilding and surface level knowledge stuff

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cardio is all you really need to get IST.

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You dont need a routine
    Just have some sense of direction, remember your numbers and work what isnt sore

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is only true for intermediate to advanced lifters
      Trying various routines helps you get a sense of what works for you

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >cardio matters way more than IST wants to admit. Cardio is huge for longevity

    >related to above: most of you lazy fucks devote way too much time for inter-set rest periods.

    >fat people hate is just sadism hiding behind a costume of good intent. It isn't an effective tool for change. When's the last time you changed your mind after someone degraded and demeaned you? (It's still funny though)

    >Despite safety issues and meme culture, Crossfit has more utility than most here want to admit. Also, competitive crossfitters would readily wipe the floor with top quartile IST posters.

    >the level of muscularity the average female finds attractive is way less than what most of IST thinks. Being lean matters more. Not being a maligned social retard matters more. Nobody cares about your numbers.

    >self-improvement fueled from a place of self-hatred is pointless. Whatever tangible goals you achieve will only further reinforce the self-hatred. If you take this as me advising against self-improvement, you're a retard beyond help.

    >red meat is best avoided. Especially cured meats.

    >Most all of you have no business touching gear.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >good intent
      >fph
      the 'h' doesn't stand for 'help', anon

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nothing against people who are fully honest about why they're bullying fats.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >whats the last time you changed your mind after someone degraded and demeanef you?
      Every time because im not a pussy nignog westerner who cries when challenged

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        you sound like a pushover. have a nice day.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Dilate

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You are the most retarded moron i have ever seen. have a nice day

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      hard agree

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >When's the last time you changed your mind after someone degraded and demeaned you?
      That's literally what an intervention is

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        You're thinking of a roast, anon.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >fat people hate is just sadism hiding behind a costume of good intent. It isn't an effective tool for change. When's the last time you changed your mind after someone degraded and demeaned you? (It's still funny though)
      Wait, people actually thing that thread is good for fatties? It's obviously for the lulz.

  25. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Isolating biceps and triceps is an important part of being strong. Strongmen are more functional than powerlifters. Powercels BTFO.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Also, isolating abs

  26. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Rich Piana was a nice guy but that kind of lifestyle is just sad and not something you want to emulate unless you want to be dead by 50.
    Competitive body building is terrible for your body and when you get to the point where you're considering roiding or using hgh then you have serious body image issues.

  27. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Career and social "fitness" is just as important as being lean and lifting weights.
    Cardio is very important for health.

  28. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You should eat for the body you want not the body you have

  29. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    2/3/4/5 under 250 lbs body weight or you're weak

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >not at 3/4/5/6 yet NGMI

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fuck me, is this even achievable natty? Gimme 3 years I'll get back to you

  30. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Women aren't that bad and Stronglifts is the best beginner program

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Woman are that bad

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Women aren't that bad
      Women are merciless, self-serving, and a perfect storm of inherent solipsism and acculturated narcissism. It's pointless and self-destructive to waste emotion and mental bandwidth hating them for acting in accordance with their nature, but you can, should, and *must* keep what they are in the back of your mind when dealing with them.
      >Stronglifts is the best beginner program
      Stronglifts is amazing!... if you want to lift for a year, and then wonder why the only lift that has meaningfully progressed is the back squat, why you still have no chest or shoulders, and wonder why you got fatter despite going to the gym for a year.

      Deadlifts WILL snap your fucking shit but mog the fuck out of every other lift

      I will say it until I am blue in the face as this board: if you are below 450 T levels then you cannot achieve anything greater than Brad Pitt Fight Club mode. If you're down to hang around 18-23% BF you can look big and maybe even lift big for strength, but never be decently lean and big. NTM shit will fix your whiny depression. Half this /LULZ/ tier shit would disappear if gays were proper T levels.

      Squats are all you need for lower body

      High rep pullups are either the sign of a DYEL or someone who has made it. Do them.

      Abs are made in the gym, not the kitchen. Literally every muscle is made in the kitchen, gay. Are you getting enough protein, sleep, etc? Then you will build any muscle you workout

      Every big black dude is on PEDs. Every single one. It amazes me how people here understand how crime ridden their communities are but somehow think it is impossible they would ever lie and cheat in terms of physical performance.

      The only woman that will "love you for who you are" are 40+ MILFs/cougars that have been used and thrown around so much they are desperate for a nice guy to talk to. However, you still need to give them the D properly. Or at the very least make them squirt (older women love to squirt and I honestly do not know why).

      Agreed across the board, except add leg press/leg curl to lower body.

      https://i.imgur.com/ytFktTi.jpg

      >cardio matters way more than IST wants to admit. Cardio is huge for longevity

      >related to above: most of you lazy fucks devote way too much time for inter-set rest periods.

      >fat people hate is just sadism hiding behind a costume of good intent. It isn't an effective tool for change. When's the last time you changed your mind after someone degraded and demeaned you? (It's still funny though)

      >Despite safety issues and meme culture, Crossfit has more utility than most here want to admit. Also, competitive crossfitters would readily wipe the floor with top quartile IST posters.

      >the level of muscularity the average female finds attractive is way less than what most of IST thinks. Being lean matters more. Not being a maligned social retard matters more. Nobody cares about your numbers.

      >self-improvement fueled from a place of self-hatred is pointless. Whatever tangible goals you achieve will only further reinforce the self-hatred. If you take this as me advising against self-improvement, you're a retard beyond help.

      >red meat is best avoided. Especially cured meats.

      >Most all of you have no business touching gear.

      >self-improvement fueled from a place of self-hatred is pointless
      Yo. I feel this in my soul.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >doing stronglifts for a year
        shiggy

  31. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Deadlifts WILL snap your fucking shit but mog the fuck out of every other lift

    I will say it until I am blue in the face as this board: if you are below 450 T levels then you cannot achieve anything greater than Brad Pitt Fight Club mode. If you're down to hang around 18-23% BF you can look big and maybe even lift big for strength, but never be decently lean and big. NTM shit will fix your whiny depression. Half this /LULZ/ tier shit would disappear if gays were proper T levels.

    Squats are all you need for lower body

    High rep pullups are either the sign of a DYEL or someone who has made it. Do them.

    Abs are made in the gym, not the kitchen. Literally every muscle is made in the kitchen, gay. Are you getting enough protein, sleep, etc? Then you will build any muscle you workout

    Every big black dude is on PEDs. Every single one. It amazes me how people here understand how crime ridden their communities are but somehow think it is impossible they would ever lie and cheat in terms of physical performance.

    The only woman that will "love you for who you are" are 40+ MILFs/cougars that have been used and thrown around so much they are desperate for a nice guy to talk to. However, you still need to give them the D properly. Or at the very least make them squirt (older women love to squirt and I honestly do not know why).

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >typing all this out
      checked I guess

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >bidenposter
        lol. lmao even.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          oh look more cope, that was easy

  32. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    68084814
    (You)

  33. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    68084854

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      made my day, anon
      thanks.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        This! So much this! moron commit suicide. my unpopular fit opinion is most of you operate off of inane assumptions about why anyone lifts or what anyone thinks at all and should have a nice day. this is the worst board on IST.

  34. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    68084814
    >chud BBC spammer hangs around the gay board
    Checks out and kys

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      What? Post links.

  35. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Real bros know what i mean

  36. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fear around s oy and to a lesser extent sneed oils on IST is stupid.

  37. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gymnastic rings and sprints are all you need for a great physique.

  38. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >IST's hatred of cardio is as autistic as it is misguided; your heart is the most important muscle you have. Antagonistic Supersets with minimal rest and an hour per week on the elliptical/rower is your friend.
    >Most of you gays care way too much about women, what they think, what they like, how to get their attention. The tragic irony is the best way to get women is to stop caring about them; you will lose gainz and money chasing women, you will never lose women chasing money and gainz.
    >You fuckstains have simply got to stop recommending Stronglifts; it is a meme that is garbage for hypertrophy.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>Most of you gays care way too much about women, what they think, what they like, how to get their attention. The tragic irony is the best way to get women is to stop caring about them; you will lose gainz and money chasing women, you will never lose women chasing money and gainz.

      Based. So much agree to this. Wgmi bro. Thats the mindset you need to achieve in this world. But most important is dont forget Jesus bless us bro.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >dont forget Jesus bless us bro
        BROFIST, and based; for Christ and the All-Father, we lift!

        https://i.imgur.com/1ZZQEyp.jpg

        [...]
        I don't understand how these opinions are controversial. I agree with all of them.

        >I don't understand how these opinions are controversial
        There are a lot of stupid and/or ignorant people on IST, there are gays ITT right fucking now who see Stronglifts and GOMAD and say to themselves "this will end well."

        >Pressing movements should be done with dumbbells. Every single one. If you really want to use a barbell, use it for high rep/low weight.

        >Squats and diddlies are fun because you can slam a lot of weight but they're not actually good.

        >Almost every machine is actually good. Yes this includes the smith and the leg press.

        >FACE PULLS ARE NON-NEGOTIABLE

        >Pressing movements should be done with dumbbells
        Based. I agree with this more every day. Forces symmetrical progress, you can go *HARD* every single session without need for a spotter, basically anything you can do with a barbell you can do with dumbbells, but not vice-versa. (Try to do an Arnold Press with a barbell. Go ahead. I'll wait... you *DO* do Arnold presses, don't you, gay?)
        >Squats and diddlies are fun because you can slam a lot of weight but they're not actually good
        I wouldn't go so far as to say "not actually good" but way overrated; you don't need to do squats three times a week, you just don't. Also, Antagonistic Supersets of leg curls/leg presses will change your fucking life. Speaking of the leg press...
        >Almost every machine is actually good
        Agreed with most, but the Smith machine should be avoided unless you're injured or just a woman doing the "squats, cardio, take a million selfies" routine; managing and balancing the weight is part of the lift, also your abs will thank you. This is why I do the leg press/curl thing twice a week... but still fuck with squats and diddlies once a week.
        >FACE PULLS ARE NON-NEGOTIABLE
        This isn't an opinion so much an objective fact.

        Going past 1/2/3/4 is basically pointless and purely for vanity

        I would make a case for 2/3/4/5, or at least 2/3/3/4, but if you're in the 1/2/3/4 club you're stronger than 99% of American men. Holy shit is that a depressing thing to type.

        Low-fat vegan diet is the best for not only health and cardio but also for lifts.
        Deadlift is stupid, learn to snatch u clumsy donkys.
        Track&field is grossly underappreciated, run and then shotput and javelin for best aesthetics.
        Sóy is great and everyone should eat a block of tofu a day.
        VR is the best cardio to do at home.
        Best McDonalds burger is the plain normal burger.

        >mfw

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/RsNcwn7.jpg

      >>Most of you gays care way too much about women, what they think, what they like, how to get their attention. The tragic irony is the best way to get women is to stop caring about them; you will lose gainz and money chasing women, you will never lose women chasing money and gainz.

      Based. So much agree to this. Wgmi bro. Thats the mindset you need to achieve in this world. But most important is dont forget Jesus bless us bro.

      I don't understand how these opinions are controversial. I agree with all of them.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Agree with everything you said.

  39. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Pressing movements should be done with dumbbells. Every single one. If you really want to use a barbell, use it for high rep/low weight.

    >Squats and diddlies are fun because you can slam a lot of weight but they're not actually good.

    >Almost every machine is actually good. Yes this includes the smith and the leg press.

    >FACE PULLS ARE NON-NEGOTIABLE

  40. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Going past 1/2/3/4 is basically pointless and purely for vanity

  41. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Low-fat vegan diet is the best for not only health and cardio but also for lifts.
    Deadlift is stupid, learn to snatch u clumsy donkys.
    Track&field is grossly underappreciated, run and then shotput and javelin for best aesthetics.
    Sóy is great and everyone should eat a block of tofu a day.
    VR is the best cardio to do at home.
    Best McDonalds burger is the plain normal burger.

  42. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Weight on the bar hardly matters for muscle growth besides being a tool for volume accumulation and people just chase giant numbers because the drug stacks of the 80s let people hit huge numbers with no effort. You can go on misc and see first cycle stories and they're all stupid like taking a 225lb squat 1RM to 315 for 11 in a 2-3 weeks.

    I just have dozens of anecdotes, historical evidence and science that backs this up. I remember my dad used to do the pec bounce to show off when I was a kid and he literally never benched more than 185lb and he took test. Also all popular routines on the internet are powerlifting centric like PHUL, 5/3/1 BBB and even PPLs.

    People just don't want to admit the people focusing on their muscle contraction and doing some pump training were right all along. They want to be the ones that have the "secret, correct way" they learned from Jim Wendler instead of just committing to the grind like everyone else.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      So what you mean is that people want to believe about big numbers = better results because it makes them feel better that way than to admit more modest weights can lead you to the same results if not better?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      In my experience, this is true. I like to say that what matters is not so much actual, objective weight, but "perceived" weight. That's why I usually find dumbbell variations of the common exercises superior for hypertrophy AND strength even though you're objectively lifting less weight.

      As you said, absolute weight can be a useful tool for tracking progress, but, unless your goal is specifically to reach big numbers on specific movements, its importance is secondary.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Powerlifting is truly a curse on bodybuilding. It's a cope sport born from people who couldn't hack it as bodybuilders, and everyone deep down knows it.

      If they were actually interested in weightlifting as an athletic discipline, they would have gotten into olympic weightlifting.

  43. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    You can lose weight and gain muscle even after the newbie period.
    Bulk and cut is a myth.

  44. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    One-legged squat variations, advanced lunge variations and sprints are enough to obtain strong, athletic and muscular legs. No need to bounce your ass off the floor to please boomers with a man ass fetish.

    It's better to do a suboptimal workout that you enjoy than to do a technically superior workout that is boring, excessively taxing or dangerous.

  45. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    > overall there needs to be a bigger focus on this board about general athleticism, not just strength training.

    > your back should be trained much more for endurance than strength. Dling 500 lbs for reps is fucking impressive, but not if you can't do yard work for longer than like a half hour without a break.

    I guess these are sorta related but you get the idea

  46. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you're fasting because of weigth loss and not for the phletora of other benefits you're dumb.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >If you're fasting [...] you're dumb.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >increased metabolism speed
        >increased brain activity
        >increase good masculine hormone production
        >decreased risk of many ailments from diabetes to cancer
        >you can dunk on cunts calling you dumb for not eating to solve problems done by eating like a cunt

  47. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Calisthenics is more than enough to look good. It gets a bad rep because most of the idiots talking about it are gymnastic rejects that think muscles ups will get them girls.

  48. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kettlebells are the only exercise equipment that everyone needs to achieve superior weightloss and high physical fitness. I dare you to prove me wrong.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >t. rashan

  49. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Futa porn isn't gay
    But traps are unironically gay.

  50. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I need pussy God fucking dammit. Love me you whores!

  51. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    everyone here has an eating disorder

    and it was way easier to develop than I expected

  52. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Protein powder, supplements and pre-workout are just essential oils/crystals for men. Just eat more meat, take a multi vitamen and have some coffee. Throw a pinch of salt in your water. Or at least get a protein powder that isn't loaded with sugar.

    Alpha/Beta/Sigma is just horoscopes for men.

    Go to your workout section and read the labels. It's all marketing. Women's "eco green easy digestion balance supplement" is the same exact shit as "TURBO bro EXTREME ALPHA PROTIEN XXL: WELCOME TO THE FUCKHOUSE SUPPLEMENT"

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Forgot my pic. THIS SHIT GONNA GET ME FUCKING SHREDDED!!! Ahhhhh I can FEEL my testosterone RISING THROUGH MY COOOOOCK!!

  53. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Strongman training is the best training for the average person who wants a bit of everything.

  54. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you finish your sets and you still have some energy in you, you should always top off with a failure set.
    Unless you feel like you’re gonna hurt yourself if you go for it. Don’t do something dumb like that.

  55. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Kitesurfing counts as leg day

  56. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Modern day "gym culture" has been overtaken by fags, women, wokies and other scum

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      >controversial
      where do you think you are?

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        I should also add that I fucking despise "gym lingo" such as gymshark, gymbro, gymrat and other other such similar bullshit

  57. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Barbell curls can only be safely performed in a power rack.
    The deadlift is useless as a chest exercise, and should not form any part of anyones routine.
    Rich Piana is still alive. Read the signs.

  58. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >cluster sets are underrated and underutilized and anyone who does use them uses them completely wrong

  59. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    /afg/ is peak IST

  60. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's not the garden gnomes.

  61. 4 months ago
    ItsNotOver

    My controversial opinion is that it's not over

  62. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    >animegirl post
    Anon, your bench press will double when you discover foxgirls

    ... and triple when you discover mares

  63. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'll just list the classic retards of IST:
    >McDonald's advertising budget? That's just a laugh. We all know the only thing you can't influence people through marketing, I learned about free will in Sunday school FFS!
    >You know well established, peer reviewed, replicated research? Yeah, that's wrong. Here's a study from Hardee's University.
    >/fast/ - couldn't even read the first 500 words of the sticky general
    ><food> bad!

  64. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Gyms breed the wrong mindset. I would go so far as to say too many mentally ill people are in the gyms, and people should try to avoid gyms more so in the current year with insecure narcissist galore and sloots using it as a day time nightclub.

  65. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Any IST girl should get breast implants if they are below a DD cup. Girls are better with massive titties, but working out shrinks titties. Therefore, fakies.

  66. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    We cute n valid

  67. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you roid your muscles are worth a third that of a natty

  68. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Shaved pits > hairy pits on women

  69. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Both men and women look better with little to no body hair provided that, and especially if, they are in good physical shape.

    You can definitely look good with body hair (hell, I don't even mind that tummy peach fuzz that some women have), but all else being equal, getting rid of your body hair will make you look even better. It's also more hygienic and arguably more comfortable.

    Anyone who claims that removing body hair is "gay" is just insecure and easily influenced by dogma.

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