I'm trying to cure my anxiety and become more chad-like.
any bros here use phenibut? does it even help?
what dosages do you take?
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Redpill me on Phenibut
I'm trying to cure my anxiety and become more chad-like.
any bros here use phenibut? does it even help?
what dosages do you take?
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Its on my to do list aswell
it works but the tolerance builds up so quickly you can only use it occasionally
take 2g a few hours before you got to social event and see what happens
I prefer splitting my use up into 750mg 6-ish hours before event, then another 750mg 1 or 2 hours before. Sometimes an additional 500mg before sleep. 2g all at once would just knock me out.
higher doses mixed with caffeine give you a lot of energy and feels similar to taking mdma
first time I took it I had 5g then went to a party and made out with 3 hot girls and took one of them home
I had previously been a weird antisocial autist, so it is definitely effective lol
Good to know. Never tried MDMA, but I have been taking low doses of shrooms (0.5 - 1g range) and have been seeing social gains from that. I'll try a higher dose + coffee next time and see how hit goes, thanks anon.
If you have issues with addiction or compulsive behavior do not even consider touching it. But if you can limit yourself to using no more than twice a week (NO EXCEPTIONS) and never taking more than, say, 2g in any given day that you use it, split up in two or three doses (STOP IF YOU EVER FIND YOURSELF NEEDING MORE), then it's a wonder drug.
But tolerance builds up quickly, and the withdrawal effects are brutal. Like, psychosis and suicide brutal.
I only use it once or twice a month, but it's been a life changer for me socially.
THEEEERES
cut pills of ecstasy and dex and methamphetamine
Opium and oxcontin mephedrone and heroin
And that's before I get to mixing alcohol with ketamine
there's lots of drugs much worse than drinking up a beer or threeeeeeeeeee
Its alright. I started with 2.5 twice a week, then just 5 on Saturdays, 10, 15, I think 20 a couple times (5 grams spread 4 or 5 hours apart). Any more than 10 is a waste because youll feel sick and start nodding off like a heroin addict. Do yourself a favor and dont go beyond 5. Expect to feel super drowsy the next day. If youre drinking too dont have more than 2 or 3 beers and if youre getting high dont expect to stay awake
>does it help
Any more than 2.5 and youll probably just ramble like a moron, I enjoyed doing that, you might not
This is an insane amount. OP, this anon might be a rare exception, but IMO this is a beyond reckless amount of phenibut to be taking. 2g max per day, until you're really familiar with how you respond to it, and how you do the day or two after you take it.
It definitely wasnt comfortable beyond 10 and Im aware of that and Im totally sober now for what its worth. That was a couple years ago when I figured Id give something besides binge drinking on the weekends a shot and Id mainly take it at home. The couple times I had that much then went out with friends I felt really out of place and dont recommend it. I think 5 would be reasonable but I have no plans to start partaking again
I'm glad to hear that. I don't have a problem with phenibut in general, but it's the riskiest drug I take for sure, even 2g in a day I consider to be on the edge. I can't imagine even 5g a day, let alone 10 or 20, that just seems beyond the pale to me. Though there's probably cross tolerance with alcohol (ethanol is GABA-ergic), so if you were a heavy drinker, that would probably influence your response to phenibut.
Glad you're sober now. Booze is the devil. And that's coming from someone who uses pot, shrooms, phenibut, and a smattering of other drugs too. There's not much worse than booze, IMO, other than maybe heroin and fentanyl.
I don't think theres a cross dependence because alcohol is a GABA-A agonist and phenibut is a GABA-B agonist so they work on different receptors.
Depends on your organism like everything. Last time I took 4 pills 200 mg each instead of drinking alcohol. Felt worse, the only thing better was lack of guilt, but other than that the hangover was worse than my usual beer evening (around 6-8 litres) and felt much more depressed. Had to lift everyday to the point of near death to get over it, but also my dopamine receptors are pretty fricked
Forgot to mention it was a huge party
800mg phenibut is barely above a placebo, it didn't cause that hangover lol
I disagree with this.
Phenibut has 0 hangover for me, in fact it has a ln afterglow that's really nice. My friends have the same effect as me.
So the next day you feel nice through the day even. But I took really big doses and was reckless and drank on it.
If you take 3-5g and have some beers on it, you will be the most social you have ever been. It's euphoric and makes you wanna smoke ciggeretes and be compulsive like that.
On its own it also helps social anxiety and with socializing.
But it is true that it can be very addicting. Seriously the withdraw can be bad. I've never withdrew cause I took it like 2 times a week max, but as soon as you start taking it to much you will get brutal with draws, and your tolerance will increase fast.
Its really good stuff , but you need a lot of will power when taking it, and you need to be really careful. We aren't aware of how it effects your brain long term, there aren't many studies on it for that.
your dopamine receptors aren't going to be fricked from 800mg of phenibut anon
Especially since phenibut is gabaergic, not dopaminergic.
A more effective solution in the long term is to regulate GABA yourself through a healthy diet, therapy, medication, habit building, and CBT.
Sure, you could use it like how many use antidepressants: as the push you need to build the habits. But the other methods in combination are going to be more effective with the risk of dependence.
benzos actually downregulate gaba receptors long term
Why are you eating something called penisbutt to be more chad?
you are what you eat
OP here, so each pill is 250mg
Should I take 750mg for my first time?
how long does it take to feel the effects?
should i increase/decrease the dose?
Do you have FAA or HCL? If FAA, consider two pills. Otherwise, 750mg is a reasonable first dose. Take three pills on an empty stomach. It will probably take 4 or 5 hours before you feel anything. Don't take more if you don't feel anything. Wait at least 3 or 4 days then try a higher dose. Phenibut is an unpredictable drug.
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yea i'll try out 3 pills, I'll take it 4 hours before the party I'm going to. Hopefully it kicks in on time and hopefully I dont make a fool of myself since idk how I'll react.
I heard it makes you low inhib like with alcohol, but you're still sober?
sounds great but also sounds too good to be true.
guess I'll find out tomorrow
Phenibut fricking sucks
People will say it has effects similar to benzodiazepines (Valium, Xanax, etc.) while also providing all kinds of other benefits, but it really doesn't
Instead, this is what it feels like
>Mildly dulled thinking but no major anxiety-alleviating effect
>Stimulating but not in a good way (productive, clear, energetic); more like how you feel when you had too much coffee when trying to get to sleep (tossing and turning)
>Majorly decreases sleep quality
>No euphoria or major mood effects to speak of
>Headache-y hangover the next day
I seriously do not understand what people are talking about when they rave about this stuff. I do not get it. It's bad at its worst, and simply not good at its best
yeah i agree whenever i take phenibut i regret it, i bought a big bottle from nootropicsdepot which is supposed to be good but as far as i can tell phenibut just kinda sucks
>Majorly decreases sleep quality
eh maybe over a period of chronic abuse, the first time i ever took it was right before bed and i woke up feeling more refreshed and rested than i ever have.
ive done it at like 5-10g a day for weeks straight and never had withdrawals, the tolerance builds up insanely fast but otherwise i havent ever had "bad" side effects. ive definitely felt some discomfort at times and weird CNS symptoms like twitching and shit.
havent done it in years, probably wont do it any time soon either. its just not all that great if you ask me compared to other drugs and medications
Limit to twice a week, no more than 1000mg dosages. It's a wonder drug for anxiety. It's removes inhibition and nerves like alcohol, but keeps you sharp. As others have said, use it strategically to overcome challenging situations or if you want to have some fun. But your success/failure with it will depend on your ability to keep your tolerance from building and your ability set it aside for several days after using it. There are no withdrawals or physical symptoms.
I'm reading mixed opinions on how long it takes to work?
should I take it 2 hours before an event or 5 hours before?
do I take it with an empty stomach? should I not eat at all while taking this? (remain fasted)?
and I should take caffeine with it?
avoid alcohol right?
HCL takes 4 to 5 hours for me. Some people report that FAA kicks in faster. Definitely empty stomach, at least two hours after eating. Take caffeine an hour or two before the event. You can eat an hour after taking it, you just want your stomach to remain empty while the phenibut gets absorbed.
okay I'll take it 4 hours before on an empty stomach, ty
yea I'll try and limit it to 1-2 drinks max if I can. I might just pour some on the floor or something and pretend I drank it lol
Oh, and absolutely never mix with alcohol.
what will happen?
I'm going to a party so someone might try and get me to drink
Nothing. Dont worry about it. Just keep it to 4 drinks max
This is a very bad idea. Phenibut drastically lowers your alcohol tolerance and sorta works in a similar fashion to a date rape drug. If you're a heaver drinker you can die from mixing the two.
>Phenibut drastically lowers your alcohol tolerance
Thats why i said no more than 4
You're gonna get OP killed . OP, no booze with phenibut, not even a sip. You won't need it anyway, the right dose of phenibut will basically give you all the benefits of booze none of the drawbacks.
Whatever pussy
I've drank on phenibut multiple times, its true that it lowers your tolerance, I got quite drunk on just 3-6 beers
unless he downs like 10+ standard drinks he'll be good
Like with alcohol, you will not be getting rid of the anxiety, simply delaying it and getting double tomorrow.
This shit did nothing for me. It's a depressant so that's probably it. Consulted a pharmacist about this shit so I know what it actually does now. It's not a stimulant, people act like it is which tells me these people are all experiencing a placebo.
might just take this as soon as I wake up. but that'll be roughly 6 hours before the party im going to.
seems early but if it really takes several hours to kick in, and the effects last for 5 hours, then ill be good
>phenibut
That's a good start but you need something that's going to shock the brain, jumpstart the neurogenic process. Try 12 weeks ALPHA brain with a caffeine kickstart. Don't be afraid to throw in some Ginkgo Biloba to shake things up a little. Make sure you keep some gorilla mind on hand to keep the neurons moving and grooving. Expect 12-14 extra iq points at the end of the cycle if you did everything right.
it works
lowers inhibition without you becoming a moron
take it on empy stomach an hour before you want the effects to kick in
dont remember the dosage but I think it was a gram, take lower doese 1st time to check your sensitivity then up to find your spot, also like coffee if you take it multple days in a row your effects will get diminished and youll need more and more so take it before a party or something. it increases the effects of alcohol so if you take it and then drink youll get thrashed(altho some anons claimed this to be a myth). some morons take multiple grams for weeks on end and then write posts about how they cant function now and how phenibut is not worth it lmao
I take 2000mg then I go to the night clubs and rub my erect wiener on random hoes
It's a GABAergic drug, so just like benzos and other substances that work with the GABA receptors, theres potential for strong addiction and withdrawal symptoms.
This drug has been hyped up for years, but the effects are not so different from maybe taking 3 shots before socializing.
Just do therapy. Or microdose psychedellics.
One time I took 750 mg during the day and fricked my back up when I went to sleep that night. I guess I was so relaxed or something or didn't move around during my sleep. Either way it felt like someone put a knife inbetween my shoulder blades when I woke up, legit crippled me for a day in horrible pain. I had some friends get addicted to it within like a week or 2. I haven't had any problems but limited it to maybe once every 2 months if I had something I wanted to take the edge off. It's like an n of 5 but I've found if you have problems with alcohol, you'll have problems with phen.
where can u get phenibut?
liftmode.com is the only source I trust, but there are a handful out there. It's only made in Russia and China as far as I know, so you're taking a risk with whoever you buy it from. liftmode.com seems to be trusted.
thanks, should i get capsule, powder or crystals?
I use powder. It's the most bang for your buck. Though if you go with HCL powder, know that it's acidic. Rinse your mouth out real good after you drink it so as not to frick up your teeth.
I hated the way it made my teeth feel even just mixing it in water to dilute so I started parachuting it before giving it up because I didn't find it worth it.
I can smoke some pot with my kratom in the morning for next to free, have zero anxiety and still be barely intoxicated all without the addiction potential
because kratom is not addictive right?
Kratom is so addictive. Weed is also addictive , not as much as kratom but tell any stoner they can't smoke for a week and watch what happens.
>penisbutt
Can you even get that legally in Europe/Germany at all?
It's not great, that or I'm a low responder even to huge doses. Pointless drug
Are you trying to end up like big lenny?
>I'm trying to cure my anxiety and become more chad-like.
i recommend you drugs which are cheaper and stronger
get bromazolam and 4-flouro-methylphenidate
this should "fix" you
if youre eu you can order from researvh chemical sites
alternatively if you wanna go the shaman route drink amanita muscaria + syrian rue tea
many potent drugs that work well but phenibut isnt one of them
tough it is very mild if thats what youre looking for, or the above but just dose lower
took 750mg 4 hours ago and I think I feel something, but I need this to last for the next 6 hours.
should I take another 250mg?
take another 750
isn't that extreme? its my first time trying this
Two hits of 750mg is fine. Just don't drink on top of it.
no its fine its just phenibut
I'd go with a lower dose
quit being a pussy homosexual