Retard here. Do you have to take a break from creatine every 2 to 3 months or can you just take it indefinitely?

Retard here. Do you have to take a break from creatine every 2 to 3 months or can you just take it indefinitely? Everyone seems to have a different take on it.

  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    don't take it or you'll be bald
    alternatives that don't fuck up hair
    >citrulline
    >baking soda (tsp with glass of water before workout)
    >niacin + coffeine
    >cialis

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I already shave my head. Dome shape's good though, so I don't care. Will that make the rest of my bodyhair fall out, though? It'd be dank if I no longer had to shave my junk and asshole.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      There has never been an actual scientific link made with creatine use and hair loss.
      Creatine helps muscles retain water and metabolize energy. Hair loss comes from a byproduct of testosterone called dehidrotestosterone, or DHT for short, which is an essentially growth hormone as a child and teenager.
      Creatine has absolutely no effect on testosterone production nor the creation of DHT.

      As for OP's question, you don't have to cycle it and you can start or stop taking it whenever. You don't have to do a loading phase either. 3 to 5g a day will achieve complete muscle saturation within around 3 weeks. Taking it every day after that keeps the muscles saturated, which is what you want in the first place.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Because it’s from a very old meme from over 15 years ago. People act like creatine is a steroid and then give advice about it like it’s a steroid, but for some reason so many retards thought that the advice was real that they think you need to cycle creatine, to the point that people who believed this so long will not want to give up this belief and will link some shitty article that says the same (which was written by another retard who fell for the joke a long time ago). No one ever admits they fell for the joke, and now even outside the English speaking world people think it’s real.

        You don’t cycle creatine and it won’t give you any benefits to do so, anyone who says otherwise is trapped in bad info that started from a really old meme.

        OP here. Yeah, that's about what I've found so far, too. There's never a reason given as to why exactly you should cycle creatine, just that you totally should, brah.

        Thanks, bros.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >There has never been an actual scientific link made with creatine use and hair loss.
        There was a big meta-analysis that came out last year that pretty definitely showed it correlates to hair loss. Subjectively, I think I have more hair fall out when I use it.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >pretty definitely showed it correlates to hair loss
          Was that controlled for steroid use?
          I'd imagine a greater proportion of creatine users are using AAS than the general population

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Link it, then. Oh wait, you made that up.

          https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7871530/
          >The vast majority of speculation regarding the relationship between creatine supplementation and hair loss/baldness stems from a single study by van der Merwe et al. where college-aged male rugby players who supplemented with creatine [...] experienced an increase in serum dihydrotestosterone (DHT) concentrations over time.
          >the results of van der Merwe et al. have not been replicated, and that intense resistance exercise itself can cause increases in these androgenic hormones.
          >in the van der Merwe et al. study, no increase in total testosterone was found in the 16 males who completed the study. Free testosterone was not measured. Moreover, the increase in DHT and the DHT: testosterone ratio remained well within normal clinical limits. Furthermore, baseline [...], DHT was 23% lower in the creatine group (0.98 nmol/L) compared to the placebo group (1.26 nmol/L). Thus the small increase in DHT in the creatine group [...], in combination with a small decrease in the placebo DHT response [...] explains the “statistically significant” increase in DHT noted by van der Merwe et al.
          >12 other studies have investigated the effects of creatine supplementation [...] on testosterone. Two studies reported small, physiologically insignificant increases in total testosterone after six and seven days of supplementation, while the remaining ten studies reported no change in testosterone concentrations. In five of these studies, free testosterone, which the body uses to produce DHT, was also measured and no increases were found.
          >In summary, the current body of evidence does not indicate that creatine supplementation increases total testosterone, free testosterone, DHT or causes hair loss/baldness.
          This shows the opposite of what you claim.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This is probably the worst advice in this entire thread

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >coffeine

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because it’s from a very old meme from over 15 years ago. People act like creatine is a steroid and then give advice about it like it’s a steroid, but for some reason so many retards thought that the advice was real that they think you need to cycle creatine, to the point that people who believed this so long will not want to give up this belief and will link some shitty article that says the same (which was written by another retard who fell for the joke a long time ago). No one ever admits they fell for the joke, and now even outside the English speaking world people think it’s real.

    You don’t cycle creatine and it won’t give you any benefits to do so, anyone who says otherwise is trapped in bad info that started from a really old meme.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    0 reason to cycle it or to do a loading phase for that matter either.

    Just mix it with your protein shake and drink it every day.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can load to get up to saturation faster initially but a few weeks of slightly less than perfect isn't going to matter in the long run

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    btw just buy the powder its much better than swallowing 5 pills a day

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I've got both. Buddy ordered the powder, they delivered it twice and he let me have the leftover tub. Kinda like the pills more still, I can take some to work with me and spread it throughout the day.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Which creatine should I buy?
    Creatine comes in powder or crystalline form and has no taste only some grainy texture
    So you buy Creatine Monohydrate flavorless – NOTHING ELSE
    1kg/2.2lbs bag during a big sale – that’s ~15$/€ for a years supply

    >How/When to take?
    Around 5 grams per day - no fucking loading phase
    Intake time doesn’t matter
    Maybe take it with food if you have a weak stomach
    The easiest way:
    scoop -> mouth -> water or put it in a shake/cereals/yogurt
    cycling not needed, blast and cruise 5g a day
    It doesn’t matter if you don’t take it a few days if you can’t take it
    Creatine saturates in your body over time
    This means the intake doesn’t matter since there is no immediate effect
    Therefore, if you stop taking creatine, it takes a few weeks until all the excessive creatine is used up and you are back to your normal

    >What does creatine effectively do?
    It stores water IN your muscles and makes you look slightly bigger without looking bloated
    Due to additional water retention you gain some water weight at first
    It increases your ATP/CP pool and therefore elevates your maximum output performance e.g.:
    a few more reps or slightly higher max lift

    >How does it work?
    Your body as 3 energy resources: body fat, glycogen and ATP
    Body Fat: delivers a low amount of energy although for a very long time
    Glycogen: stored in your muscles and liver and can deliver a medium energy output for 1-2 hours
    ATP: delivers a massive amount of energy but only for a very short duration of ~5-10 seconds
    This energy source is mainly used for heavy sets of 1-5 reps since you need a lot of energy for your max lifts
    Creatine increases the available amount of creatine phosphate in your body which will be converted to ATP
    Since more ATP means higher/more energy output you can get a few more reps or lift a little higher weights.

    That’s all the basics to know about creatine.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      *5-10 g creatine daily. The optimal amount is 0.1 g/kg. So, a 200 lbs male should be taking 9 g. The tendency to dose creatine at 3-5 g is probably a major factor in the "non-resoonder" phenomenon. 3-5 g works great if you're a vegan or a small woman. If you're a normal size dude and you eat meat, you probably need more than 3-5 to notice an effect.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I was on it for like 6 months, had my bloods checked creatinine levels were high and dr. said I would be on dialysis by 50. lol.. came off creatine and the creatinine levels went back to to normal.. so cycling it is advisable.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Never listen to medshits

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Creatinine is used as an indirect marker of kidney health because damaged kidneys will pump it into your blood. However, high creatinine doesn't necessarily mean your kidneys are damaged. Creatine breaks down into creatinine, so ingesting creatine will result in higher levels of creatinine in your blood. Higher creatinine won't damage your kidneys.

      It's like your doctor visited your house, saw that your lawn was wet, and diagnosed you with rain. Turns out, you just watered your lawn. Both result in wet grass, your doctor is just retarded for jumping to conclusions instead of getting a more accurate medical history from you.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Cause medshits are retarded gohead tell your doctor you squat, he'll act like you'll be a potato in 3 seconds "oh this will never heal youll be on pain killers your whole life, what's that you healed in 3 weeks? Oh well" garden gnomes

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Creatinine is used as an indirect marker of kidney health because damaged kidneys will pump it into your blood. However, high creatinine doesn't necessarily mean your kidneys are damaged. Creatine breaks down into creatinine, so ingesting creatine will result in higher levels of creatinine in your blood. Higher creatinine won't damage your kidneys.

          It's like your doctor visited your house, saw that your lawn was wet, and diagnosed you with rain. Turns out, you just watered your lawn. Both result in wet grass, your doctor is just retarded for jumping to conclusions instead of getting a more accurate medical history from you.

          This is why I still bother coming to this site

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This. Most md's are simply memoru monkies who had muscular enough memories snd attention spans to remember the shit they learned in med school. Once they're out they quit learning and just auto pilot anything they're told to say. Example, bout 7 or 8 years ago I was eating a good 20 eggs in a day and had been for a few years. East indian doctor I was at for a physical almost panicked and I had to run to the lab right away because of muh cholosterol gonna kill me. My levels came back perfect a week later and in my follow up I sat there watching this retard pore over my results for 20 minutes scrunching his brow up and muttering about it "not making sense". I haven't been to a doctor since, even when I broke my finger at work.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Take three atine tasteless goes down the easiest

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