>ruins your bulk
I’ve been on my best bulk in years, up to six meals of day washing most meals down with milk with little to no bloating. I have to get braces and I can’t imagine how I’ll continue my high calorie, dense and nutrient rich diet with all the don’t-eats listed by my orthodontist. Can I learn how to swallow food whole without little chewing, or should I just focus on maintaining my current weight until the procedure is done?
>Get Invisalign
No
How old are you cause getting braces when you're older than 18 is kinda embarrassing
Only homosexuals become embarrassed
I guess you're a homosexual
homosexual
Having crooked teeth forever is far more embarrassing than wearing braces for a year or two.
tfw wore braces for years, teeth fixed, braces replaced with wire behind teeth, wire broke, teeth moved back, now considering braces as an adult evwn though I still have nightmares from 20 years ago
>wire broke
Why didn't you get the wire fixed immediately?
how long did it take to go back? I took my top wire off after it broke like 4 years ago
>wire broke
Fixed wire retainers have to be replaced every few years so that such things don't happen. You should also still have your plastic retainers (which you are supposed to wear 3 nights per week for the rest of your life anyways) if your fixed retainer brakes suddenly.
I always really respected it and thought it was cool - didn't have money for it as a kid and now as an adult you do, I think that speaks volumes to a person's competence coming from less money.
That's not true.
It is true for all males, though.
peanut butter protein shakes bruh
The frick dont eats are you talking about I dont recall any restrictions when I had those
I've had braces for over a year now, eating anything I want. What are you talking about?
you bulking on caramel corn?
>Braces and probably extractions instead of mewing + everything else need for growth.
Not gonna make it.
>have braces can still eat everything
it does not matter just dont be a moron and eat corn on the cob or something
I just know you're bulking while already a fat ass
I just know you don't look like you lift
post body
I'm currently doing CandidPro and holy frick why would you ever do metal braces???
>takes less than half the time, without cutting up your gums
>can eat anything at any time, just gotta brush afterwards
Frickin EZ Mode
it's faster than metal braces?
>On average, Invisalign takes about 6 – 18 months, while metal braces take about 20 – 24 months
>in general Invisalign take less time than braces to move teeth into the proper position due to the type of force this process uses to move the teeth
Always has been. The reason people do metal braces is because they are way cheaper. I dunno what the price would've been for me, but after insurance it was $3200 for my aligners
wtf lol crazy
I hope I can do invisilign, I think I have to make a gap for tooth implant so I may have to use metal ones at least to start :
Did you guys consult a maxofacial surgeon at all? I'm paranoid since ortho wants to pull teeth in and I don't want to frick up my face
Ohhh yeah that's iffy. I'm pretty sure implants can't be moved around, so they'd be moving all of your other teeth around it. It's best to do invisalign first, and then implants, but def talk to your dentist about it
>Did you guys consult a maxofacial surgeon at all
No, just the regular dentist. In fact the receptionist did most of the talking/discussion about everything related to treatment/day to day stuff, the dentist just looked at my teeth for a bit and was like "yep go ahead"
>I'm paranoid since ortho wants to pull teeth in and I don't want to frick up my face
Pulling teeth to get braces? That is a *very* outdated practice and you should 100% stop going there if they say this. The first dentist I asked said the same thing ("we'll have to pull your premolars to make space") but then I asked 3 other places and they were all like "what the frick no?????". The aligners will just spread your teeth outward to make more space
practically anyone can do invisalign, but you can't do them with implants (or certain types of implants? something like that, ask your dentist). Even the worst teeth you've seen can be moved around with invisalign
If they want to pull teeth you should shop around. That’s permenant and not ideal so if you can avoid it, you should.
another anon chipping in I literally just asked this 2 days ago and my dentist said that if someone is saying you need teeth pulled for braces you should walk out and go someplace else
Holy shit, those plastic braces don't seem so bad after all.
The only thing I'm really worried about is bite problems after treatment. Some people can't close their bite, have overbite/underbite issues, have muscle twitching due to using braces/invisalign.
My bite at the molars is so fricked and crooked (my face is a bit lopsided due to an uneven bite) that I suspect straightening my teeth would mess my bite up severely.
Which is a hard decision for me because the front of my bite looks alright and pretty straight all things considered, so I'm wondering if it's even worth the hassle, since my teeth look pretty good when I smile and I can chew food without issues.
>Holy shit, those plastic braces don't seem so bad after all.
They are objectively the single best option for braces. Every dentist I've talked to agrees with this.
>The only thing I'm really worried about is bite problems after treatment
That gets addressed during the treatment. The first ~50-70% of your aligners will move your teeth around, the latter trays will address bite issues. Pic related shows what you should expect: a box of aligners/trays (each person has a different number of total trays, of course). You'll spend 1-2 weeks wearing one, then move to the next. 1-2 weeks later, move to the next, etc etc
>that I suspect straightening my teeth would mess my bite up severely.
Talk to your dentist. That's something I've brought up and they said that never happens, the final aligners will set your bite exactly how it should be
>so I'm wondering if it's even worth the hassle
Hey if you don't need it then don't do it. If your dentist sees your bite during your cleanings/inspections and doesn't have a problem, then why get braces? If you want perfectly straight teeth then go for it
can you lift while having invisalign in your mouth?
>overbite/underbite
Overbite and underbite can be fixed by wearing elastics (rubber bands) in addition to braces or aligners. Ask your dentist.
How many days do you have to wear each aligner?
I was told that I can wear each 22 hours for 7 days or 20 hours for 14 days, so I decided to do the former.
>How many days do you have to wear each aligner?
It's been 1-2 weeks for each. Averaged out maybe like 10-11 days? I've been done with a tray at exactly a week, I've taken 13 days for another. It hard depends cuz some days I do enjoy just sitting there sipping on a bunch of coffee while reading a book so I'll get less time in. Other days I'll get 22+ hours in
Invisalign can't fix everything. Braces can.
But it works in most cases. It's also not even that more expensive than normal braces. In my case it was around 20%.
Neither Invisalign, nor braces will fix your problem. Your teeth are overcrowded because your jaw is too narrow. Jamming your teeth into place is just a temporary fix. Look into MSE and fix your posture if you want permanent results.
If you don't know what you're talking about, then shut up.
Why do you think I don't know what I'm talking about? Your teeth move back after braces and Invisalign if you don't wear a retainer for the rest of your life. They don't fix anything.
>if you don't wear a retainer for the rest of your life
>if
noooooooooooooooooooo fricking shit???
I shouldn't have said braces don't fix anything. If you wear a retainer forever fair enough. I think there are better ways to fix problems with your bite. Personally, I'm looking into surgery. I had Invisalign as a kid and I stopped wearing them because they were causing me to choke in my sleep. My teeth
>Gets surgery
>Then gets braces
>Doesn't wear retainer
>Teeth go back to their old position
wtf it didn't do anything !!!!
You're right, I don't know what your bite looks like. Why do you think your teeth go back to their original position? The issue is with your jaw, not just your teeth.
Why the frick do you think that's impossible? I was choking on my tongue not the Invisalign. I know how Invisalign works.
>my braces made my tongue choke me!!!
Holy frick you can NOT make this shit up
Do you not believe that I was choking in my sleep, or that Invisalign was causing it?
I'm not fat. My tongue doesn't fit in my fricking mouth because my jaw is too narrow, and it causes me breathing issues. This is in spite of me completing my Invisalign adjustment.
>My tongue doesn't fit in my fricking mouth because my jaw is too narrow, and it causes me breathing issues
>this means no one else on the planet is allowed to get braces
Your logic is OUTSTANDING, anon.
You're right, my logic was stupid. I assumed OP hadn't had jaw adjustment procedures prior to braces. I suppose I was a bit too zealous. I don't like seeing people get fricked over by orthodontists like I've been.
Go to hell
>I had Invisalign as a kid and I stopped wearing them because they were causing me to choke in my sleep
>This is in spite of me completing my Invisalign adjustment.
pfffffffffffffffffffthahahaha the bullshit just keeps coming. Anon, you do realize that literally no one here believes you, right????
>i stopped wearing invisalign
>i completed my invisalign
anon, I.......
What I mean is I wore every set of trays until I got to the last one, then I wore that set for about a year.
the lies keep coming. Jesus christ anon how autistic are you??? Just stop it already it's not even funny, this is just sad
>I got to the last one, then I wore that set for about a year.
Bullshit. You have to wear every aligner for a fixed amount of time (1-2 weeks), even the last one. After that you get plastic and/or wire retainers.
>has a narrow jaw
>tells people that don't have narrow jaws that they should never ever get braces
You do know that not all people are the same, yeah?
Almost all surgeries will then require subsequent braces. It's not our fault you're so fat you choked on your own tongue.
>I was choking on my tongue not the Invisalign
holy frick
>guys all braces are evil and don't work!!
>i choked on my tongue so braces should be illegal!!!
my fricking sides
Please stop talking.
>I think there are better ways to fix problems with your bite
You have absolutely *no fricking idea* what my bite looks like. You don't have pictures/x-rays/scans.
>I had Invisalign as a kid and I stopped wearing them because they were causing me to choke in my sleep
Literally impossible, now you're just making shit up. They snap onto your teeth and you have to force them off. We're not stupid, anon. You're not fooling anyone.
>has zero dental experience
>doesn't have scans/pics of someone's bite, but telling them how to fix their bite
>fricked up wearing unfrickupable braces
>hey guys my opinion should be listened to!!
Please keep going. This is amusing.
>I had Invisalign as a kid and I stopped wearing them because they were causing me to choke in my sleep
anon, they *snap onto your teeth* and you have to *pry them off with force*. They don't just slip off and it's impossible for them to just fall off. this is a blatant lie.
>if you don't wear a retainer
lmao no fricking shit?
>They don't fix anything
Hey guys braces will give you perfectly straight teeth and will completely fix over/under bite but hey that doesn't mean they fix anything at all!! God you're fricking stupid
>They don't fix anything.
braces fixed my crossbite and I just have to wear a retainer at night while I sleep. Please tell me how they didn't do anything for me
a friend was quoted at almost 2 years with metal braces or like 7 months with invisalign. Yeah it's way frickin faster
>grown adult with braces
???
>grew up poor as frick, parents could never afford it
>finally have the money to buy things for myself and be happy
Let me guess, you also make fun of middle aged people buying sports cars, calling it a """""mid life crisis"""""?
People are judging you for having braces as a grown man
>people are judging you for taking care of your health and wellbeing
???
Sour grape, anon. Some people just don't know how to control their jealousy
Lol I'm literally doing it right now. You don't need to do 22 hours a day, I hit 20-21 just fine. I'm 4 months into treatment and I'm progressing exactly how I should be
>Some people just don't know how to control their jealousy
This.
Most of the people that both I and my gf know got butthurt and ruined their relationships with us after we told them that I bought a new home with cash. In some cases I could see their brains getting fried trying to process this information.
I'm single with no kids, making ~92k/year. I just bought an EV with cash and I feel bad saying this to friends that're struggling but man you decided to have a bunch of kids, not me. Whatever.
Sometimes it's not even because of kids.
>BLOGPOST INCOMING
One of my gf's friends earn A LOT (probably somewhere around the top 15-20% in terms of monthly income), but he blows it all on his gf. His gf is emotionally abusive, doesn't want to have sex with him, cheated on him, doesn't work, doesn't do chores to help him out, and nags him to waste money on her whims. The dude is so cucked that he doesn't try to fix his situation and his bank account looks as if he was working minimum wage.
Upon learning about my finances and real estate, he literally got mad. Not just butthurt, he actually got mad and went on a tirade, fuming about my job, my education, his job, his education, the real estate market, his future, etc. From what my gf told me, he's still mad weeks later.
"Society."
Nothing haunts people more than their own choices and feeling powerless.
Congrats, anon. You beat the banks.
A lot of normies would resent that as they lack the financial discipline to do what you did.
>>Get Invisalign
>No
Even with Invisalign that wouldn't work because you have to wear the aligners at least 22 hours per day. 2 hours is not enough time to eat six meals and brush your teeth after each meal.
ok
I had these and it's basically all about activating your brain.
Cut things small and chew on them, easy right?
if it's too big and hard you'll push the braces up
but if it's small enough to keep it in between your teeth then the toughness of the food doesnt matter
eat even if it hurts
no pain no gain
also btw
invisalign / ccorrect hurt even more because you swap them every week or 2
so its a constant pain
just man up and eat
>so its a constant pain
Only for the first ~1-3 days of a new tray, then the pain settles down massively. You go through the same thing with metal braces when you get them tightened n stuff
Taking the aligners out may be hard and painful in the first few days or weeks until you found the perfect technique. In addition, orthodontic elastics may cause some constant pain.
It's not about pain. Hard food like nuts can damage the braces.
Itt israelites shilling invisalign
Many people need to get braces after invisalign so you pay double to the teeth israelites.
go leave, dumbass
Wrong link
t.israelite
Get braces guys, having plastic releasing xenoestrogens 22h a day isnt good plus you can lose or break them and have to pay triple to the teeth israelites.
After a couple of days of acclimatization you'll be eating normally again. Don't worry.
Here's a top-tip, though: Buy yourself one of these.
>That pic
Thanks for the boner OP
Hola, onions nuevo en este mundo, alguien me puede decir cómo conseguir una mejor "definición"?
>I’ve been on my best bulk in years, up to six meals of day washing most meals down with milk
Braces will save you from becoming a fat ugly unaesthetic powershitter
Just finished Invisalign if anyone has any questions.
Does anyone have experience or know if braces with bands would fix a very very mild overbite?
same question really but for invisalign
It can 100% fix it but you'll need to wear bands. I had a pretty severe crossbite and it fixed that.
ok i will talk to an ortho about potential treatment then...i just wish they didnt cost 4 grand....
Can probably get some free consultations to at least get a price estimate. Mine were about $5700 including retainers but my insurance covered $2000 of it.
no sadly not, im in the uk and the dental industry it giga fricked, consultation costs around £100 in most places, as for insurance, i dont think it works over here like that, its kind of either free or we have to pay up everything privately, so im gonna have to pay the 4-5k somehow, i know they do payment plans at least, ill do some research on it
>cost 4 grand
Anon, ...
My treatment cost €7k
They just gave me two of the last set. I didn't get any wire retainers.
Then that were probably the plastic retainers. Usually the dentist will produce those himself, but you can also order them from invisalign. In some cases wire retainers are not required.
In the first 1-2 years of the treatment has finished, you have to wear the plastic retainers every night. After that, you have to wear them 3 times per week at night for the rest of your life. If you don't do that, your teeth will move back.