>saturated fat BAD
>unsaturated fat was basically unavailable to humanity in large quantities until industrial revolution
How does it make sense?
>saturated fat BAD
>unsaturated fat was basically unavailable to humanity in large quantities until industrial revolution
How does it make sense?
>sense?
>unavailable to humanity in large quantities until industrial revolution
Olive oil.
Still unavailable to most humans living on the planet before the industrial revolution anon…
>to most humans living on the planet
the world was much smaller back then, everyone had access to olive oil
Northern europe and asia did not exist back then? The protestant reform was partially initiated because if the catholic church’s tax on butter during lent because half of europe didn’t have access to olive oil as recent as the 15th century. Even poojeets figured out butter anon…
Northern Europe and Asia was mostly uninhabitated wilderness back then. Quite literally majority of the people of the world during antiques lived in the Middle East and around the Mediterranean Sea. Other population "hotspots" were China + India and Mesoamerica but those were a bit less significant, and outside of these places was so sparcely populated that it's completely irrelevant.
>olive tree needs 15 years to bear fruit
>olives rot very fast and do not yield much oil
>oil goes rancid instantly unless stored in specific conditions
Totally easy stuff
Didn't say it was easy, but some of the greatest civilizations were built on calories from olive oil.
And yes, trees have to be old to bear olives, but they live for a VERY long time.
caloric contribution of olive oil has always been minimal even for italians.
ever wondered how humanity survived for so long? morons like you were filtered out fast
>ever wondered how humanity survived for so long?
Slavery. Nobody wants to admit it but until the industrial revolution slavery was indespensable. It sure weren't bvsed and rvdpilled patrician romans who gathered the olives and then dragged a massive stone wheel to press oil out of them
Your moronation is not your fault (its truly not). It is instead in indictment on the public education system as a whole
Black person the world isn't southern Europe
>heh did you just tell me i should shower daily so i dont smell like shit?
>pff - humans didnt do that for 99% of history, checkmate atheist
showering daily is moronic unless you're involved in heavy labor, its winter now and I shower maybe once a week
>I shower maybe once a week
You don't lift or exercise. Why are you here?
Shill forgot which board he was on. Reminder that there are people who's job it is to spread psy-op campaigns and demoralization on IST.
>not taking hot baths after a long day at work for the relaxiation gains
>walk into gym
>use equipment caked in years worth lf sweat and grime
>spend 90 minutes sweating in clothes
Any lifter should 110% shower every day
you think showering daily is healthy for your skin and hair?
lol
the funniest thing is you think this was some kind of gotcha
Unironically the only reason humans smell so bad is because of their shit diet. Showers are still comfy, though.
Garlic and onions are some of the best things you can eat and make you smell like complete shit so frick off.
Yeah they are poisonous. Next.
Oh a diet fad subhuman. Nevermind then, Black person.
>hmmmn this stuff when eaten causes terrible smell, and its painfully spicy when raw, could it be bad? nope, only fad diet morona would say that
you people are so stupid, you dont even listen to your bodies
Ok fad diet Black person, tell us more, everyone is intrigued. Just kidding. have a nice day. Oh wait: You already are!
Cheers, proud moron.
>the only reason humans smell so bad is because of their shit diet
ABCC11 gene functioning. If your ABCC11 gene doesn't function, your sweat doesn't smell.
How long did those people live?
average lifespan was only low because of child mortality rate
if you didn't get an infection you easily reached your 70s 80s
120, if they weren't killed for some other reason.
LE OLD GOOD
LE NEW BAD
DYING AT 45 GOOD
>DYING AT 45 GOOD
I don't want to wait that long
LE OLD BAD
LE NEW GOOD
I HAVE A STRANGE URGE TO CHOP OFF MY PENIS
But most people did not die in their 40s. They died in their 60s or 70s if they lived to walk.
damn, I can't believe there's actually intelligent people on this shithole
it's an overstatement you absolute monkey
>DYING AT 45 GOOD
>not understanding average life expectancy which is heavily skewed with infant mortality and wound infections
they didn't die at 45 you moronic cretin, jesus christ this board is so fricking moronic
So survivorship bias then? Only the fittest and healthiest would survive childhood thus lowering disease and early death.
>Only the fittest and healthiest would survive childhood thus lowering disease and early death.
LIterally how all species on Earth work except moronic humans who think its a good idea to help the weak survive, suffer, and drain national budgets on welfare.
>average human lifespan was 45 before the industrial revolution
Fricking moron
The much shorter average lifespan was more a function of high infant/childhood mortality than anything else. Once that is accounted for, people still lived shorter lives than now—not surprising, considering near total lack of healthcare, disease, famine, war, etc.—but it was much closer to current life expectancy.
I wonder how much would the avg. lifespan of modern humans drop if we didn't have all these sophisticated medical procedures and antibiotics n shiet. Everyday things like tooth decay would massacre millions yearly. Covid, a mild flu, caused more panic than the Black Plague back in the day.
>Everyday things like tooth decay would massacre millions yearly
No it wouldn't. People would just have someone else rip the tooth out, if the travelling dentist wasn't around.
>rip tooth out
>pour whisky in
People were way more hardcore hundreds of years ago.
Animal fat is only about 50% saturated. If you wanted to eat mostly saturated fat you'd have to prioritise tropical oils like coconut and palm. No idea why you'd want to do this though.
I DO NOT SHOWER
GOOD MORNING SIRS
>edible nuts and seeds were basically unavailable to humanity until the industrial revolution
Weird belief but OK.
>nuts
Vast majority of nuts are inedible though
>seeds
homie do you know how much seed you need to feed to get any palpable amount of oil of them?
>Vast majority of nuts are inedible though
Irrelevant. Plenty of edible nuts around the world. Chestnuts, walnut, edible acorns, hazelnuts, etc.
>homie do you know how much seed you need to feed to get any palpable amount of oil of them
Do you know that you can eat seeds?
Roasted pumpkin seeds or sunflower seeds are delicious.
Ok now calculate the actual, bioavailable amount of fat that is not firewalled by antinutrients and fiber
Lmao you're getting farther and farther away from this whole "basically unavailable" thing. Just accept that your premise is flawed.
I don't consume seed oils btw that shit is poison but your reasoning is still faulty.
No, he's right. The amount of seeds you need to produce, is way too much, for what land we actually used. You also need to remember that people weren't eating modern versions, but the old junky versions.
selective breeding has been a thing since the medieval times. stop acting like it's bad now. and worry about a diet that is fit for the modern day, instead of some idealized version of history in your head.
>stop acting like it's bad now
I never said it was bad, I said we weren't eating the foods you get at the grocery store.
>worry about a diet that is fit for the modern day
That's the exact problem we're trying to tell you about, Black person.
We're still cavemen. You think we're not animals, because we have cities, air conditioning, and refrigeration, but our brains and stomachs will take thousands more years to catch up to this.
You should be eating like we did, hundreds of years ago.
Meat, fats, milk, butter, breads, cheese, fruits, root vegetables. The odd bit of nuts/seeds.
dumb gorilla Black person.
>don't trust the science
>but trust the science that tells you about history
>homie do you know how much seed you need to feed to get any palpable amount of oil of them
100g of sunflower seeds (1 large handful) has 51g of fat, 23g of which is unsaturated. That is not an insignificant amount.
>basically unavailable to humanity in large quantities until industrial revolution
So was penicillin you fricking idiot. The real world doesn't have to follow any of your moronic "ancestor" rules.
Actually the science is with you anon, we've looked at the data and find those in anti saturated fat religions to be unscientific and not peer reviewed.
Saturated fat is the healthiest
>how does it make cents?
ftfy.
The HCLF people are right. We don't need much fat to be healthy. You dont need overt fat sources (oils, Lars, grease from meat). Grains + the occasional nuts is all you need for fat.
Calling Lars an overt fat source is not very nice 🙁
I've a nut for you ya right here, gayboi
Fatty foods
>Taste of nothing unless cooked and salted to shit
Sugary foods
>Taste good without having to do shit
Hmm, its almost like we are meant to eat fruits, like our nearest relatives aka. all other apes
Fatty foods
>eat it, good for the next 8 hours
Sugary foods
>eat it, crave more like an addict 15 minutes later when your blood sugar drops
Try eating 10 bananas and report back
modern fruits are literally cultivated sugar bombs designed to be addictive. Wild fruits have nothing to do with goyslop you buy at the store
>eat it, crave more like an addict 15 minutes later when your blood sugar drops
I've literally never felt this after eating sugar lmao do people really feel like this?
>unsaturated fat was basically unavailable to humanity in large quantities
so cold pressed seed oils or extracted seed oils from cooking seeds which is documented to be made since the persian age and probably even earlier, or the over abundant olive oil of the mediterranean or peanut oil in asia didnt exist huh?
unsaturated fats are oils, saturated fats are solid fats...we had both and have eaten both since time immemorial
and they were most likely used for cosmetic, mechanical (like lubrication and lamps) and ritual practices. How much oil do you think antique machinery could squeeze out of seeds considering that even modern industrial chemical methods get at best 80% of oil content?
they were used for food and there was amphoras full of them....in my country they made their own oils from seeds and olives from ordinary presses and in mills and they were kept in bottles ranging from 15liters to 50 liters (pic rel) and were the primary source of cooking fats. Animal fats were very valuable and were used primarily for storage or preservation purposes of other foods.
Just because USA has no history or doesnt know others history doesnt mean you can invent it for other people
>persian age
not even 3000 years old, as opposed to the high saturated fat diet we had for 80M years
>naturalistic fallacy
why is everyone arguing diet on IST 70IQ?