Supplements Thread

Hi guys. How much Ashwaganda and Tongkat Ali should I take, and what's a good but not crazy expensive brand? Is Nature Made fine?

I also would like something for mental focus if anyone knows anything good... Lions Mane maybe? Dunno what dosage though. Currently I can focus on studying about 3 hours a day but I really need to get that up over 6 and ideally closer to 12 so I can fix my life in a year...

  1. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    MEME

  2. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    The supplement industry got such a iron grip on people, its absolutely incredible.
    All the "natural" people fail to realise that these things are litterally being pushed by a huge industry, that doesnt have to prove anything about what they sell, as long as it isnt hard drugs

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ok. But there is scientific research that it increases test by 10-20%. So why not take it?

      dude just inject test if you want. stop taking these meme products that are bad for you.

      No thanks.
      >bad for you
      But you recommend test lol as if it is harmless.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        research made by 3rd party scientists, or research done by the supplement industry?

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          3rd party scientists. It always raises test by 50-200mg in the test subjects. The only criticism of this I hear in threads is that it is not enough to make a difference and "just pin bro." Not everyone wants to pin. Some people would be ok with a small boost, and I don't see how 100 extra test would not be noticible.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            Ng/dl not MG. And that increase will have zero noticeable impact on gains. An increase of 2000ng/dl would impact gains but can't be obtained without pinning.

            • 4 months ago
              Anonymous

              And what about mental or libido?

              https://i.imgur.com/FuVMQQg.jpg

              [...]
              why dont you focus on working out
              why dont you focus on cutting the foods that nuke testosterone instead of chasing a 5% gain?

              no fappers gain 7% test but youre not doing that either i bet

              I already do all that. Why are you gays so against taking a pill every day for a "5% gain"? I don't get it.

              • 4 months ago
                Anonymous

                Likely no tangible benefit beyond placebo. Minor variations within normal hormonal range make less difference than androgen receptor density.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wtf taking those two raises test? I never knew that, I kind of want to take them now

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You’re describing big Pharma

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's describing exactly what he said. Daily threads about random Asian mushrooms or whatever prove it

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You forgot that nobody needs any of these

  3. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    dude just inject test if you want. stop taking these meme products that are bad for you.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      I take 500mg ashweganda. Noticeably lowers stress.

      Ashweganda isn't for raising test. It's for lowering cortisol. It's not bad for you and really just makes you respond to stress better.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Lowering cortisol can lead to higher test if you train heavy at volume

        That said, rhodiola and panax ginseng are better than Ashwa because they work right away without building up in your system
        I hit 274lbs @ 6'4 @ 8% bf in 2018 and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have gotten there without panax ginseng and rhodiola

        Most supps are fucking garbage tho no cap fr on God

        What men should supp:
        Zinc, lecithin, vit D, arginine
        If you actually lift heavy at volume and *DON'T* do marijuana you should also supp rhodiola and/or panax ginseng.
        Take rhodiola when you're super stressed, ginseng when you're mildly stressed

        Fenugreek is the only herbal supplement shown to increase testosterone without any extra steps so if you think you need a bump, take that.

        It's wayyyyy more important to lift heavy (<8 reps to failure) at volume (5+ sets) at frequency (hit everything every 3 days) and eat plenty of fat, carbs and not too much protein (0.8g/lb of lean body mass) than it is to take meme supps. Eating adequate fat (which is a lot) and dumping powdered protein garbage will boost your test way more than any supp

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          It can, but the increase in test isn't really meaningful for gains. The drop in cortisol is good for qualify of life though.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Fenugreek and ashwaganda have roughly the same effects from what I can see

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          >arginine
          I have never been able to find a definitive answer on arginine vs citrulline.

  4. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Should I buy this? My diet is pretty shit and I'm deficient in common things like zinc and magnesium.
    It has Ashwaganda as well.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      If it has both zinc and magnesium in it, no. They compete for absorption.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        source? a simple google search will tell you its the opposite retard

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          You're right. I was thinking zinc and calcium

  5. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    What's the verdict on tongkat ali?
    Does it work? Does it not? Will it boost your test? Will it kill you?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/LiM5oYN.jpg

      Hi guys. How much Ashwaganda and Tongkat Ali should I take, and what's a good but not crazy expensive brand? Is Nature Made fine?

      I also would like something for mental focus if anyone knows anything good... Lions Mane maybe? Dunno what dosage though. Currently I can focus on studying about 3 hours a day but I really need to get that up over 6 and ideally closer to 12 so I can fix my life in a year...

      why dont you focus on working out
      why dont you focus on cutting the foods that nuke testosterone instead of chasing a 5% gain?

      no fappers gain 7% test but youre not doing that either i bet

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >why dont you focus on cutting the foods that nuke testosterone
        That literally doesn't exist

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        >no fappers gain 7% test
        repeating a lie doesnt make it true

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Haven’t tried tongat but I definitely say that shilajit works. Boosts energy and test and doesn’t have any side effects

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        look up lead contamination in shilajit

  6. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    What do you recommend me to lower tobacco dependence? I don't want to quit, I just want to smoke like once a week without suffering withdrawals for three days later

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      You have to actually fully quit and then get back on. With the foreknowledge of whats to come if you dont watch yourself its much easier to limit. I quit and didnt smoke a cigarette for 3 years and bought a pack. Smoked like 5 over the course of a month. Lost the pack. Aint had one for a few months now.

  7. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anti supplement schizos should go back to /fraud/ instead of trying to convince everyone to take their hormone destroying shots.

  8. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I didn't feel really anything on 600mg a day of Ashwagandha. I DO think Tongkat Ali at 1g a day DOES do something to be honest. I got on fin, got fin dick and after a week and a half of 1g of Tongkat I strated waking up with morning wood and honestly my errection looked, felt and seemed bigger and longer.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is fadogia arestes or tongkat better for fin dick?

  9. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Take it with black peppercorns for max absorption

  10. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you follow a good diet like the vertical diet and get enough sleep, all you need is zinc+magnesium+vitamin d. Maybe add a stimulant for training.

  11. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ashwaganda - did ksm66, I think it miiight increase libido a little bit, and the dreams are somewhat more vivid and easier to remember. No noticeable effect on gains.
    Tongkat ali - taking 0.5g of extract twice a day for about 3 weeks now. No noticeable effects on anything really.

  12. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I’d credit Ashwagandha for helping me get from beginner gains to intermediate more quickly than I would have without it. 600 mgs a day for like 6 months.

  13. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    I grew a 5 ashwaganda plants in pots in a greenhouse in zone 4.
    I will harvest in a few weeks, i never tried it before.

  14. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    what is the best brand of tongkat ali?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, it's so hard to find a decent brand that isn't absurdly expensive.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      This, it's so hard to find a decent brand that isn't absurdly expensive.

      its a leaf just grow it lmao

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      territorial rape gorilla 24/7 after a few weeks
      like you will cause tangible long lasting damage to your ability to socialize, you'll need to move after you cycle off it if you actually want to get laid, I had to change jobs because i was verbally abusing fucking everyone, working so hard i was sweating like a fucking tool, getting territorial when men said hi to a girl near me, etc.

      actual chad awakening on this stuff last spring and summer though, my T levels were literally so high I grew chest hair for the first time at age 29 and my gyno from a self destructive childhood of obesity and hormonal imbalance was replaced by chisled pecs. Ab definition for the first time in my life (formerly 300lb solid fat as a 14 yr old, lost 120 of that at age 20 and got big then, but never body builder lean)

      This stuff, I cycle it for 60 days because i literally make enemies of every human being near me. It got my laid but that means shit after you've allied every man in your job or school against you. i'd say it's too strong unless you're 220lb+ and seriously busting ass lifting and running, all excess energy will be converted into RAPE, SEX, JEALOUSLY, LUST, HATE, WAR, WAR , KILL to the point where it's actually self destructive.

      or maybe i'm just a fucking psychopath, haha

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        woops, heres the brand i buy. expensive as fuck

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          So nootropics depot is actually legit? Tryin to find a good supplier for these things is so hard.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hope your under 30 because if your over and it that effect, it fucked you up (probably).

  15. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    After I started GDK-191 my gainz have been improving well. I hadn’t put a lot of faith in supplements before but this one made me curious if some of the meme stuff like ecdysterone actually could work.

  16. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Im fucking losing it. Legit Tongkat Ali from Asia is sold out everywhere. REEEEE

  17. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    How much DHEA should I take?

  18. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Hows ZMA for sleep?
    I hear people get way better sleep taking ZMA before bed.

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Probably the magnesium content. Never helped me but you might as well just take magnesium.

      • 4 months ago
        Anonymous

        Thought that too but i wanted to take both zinc and magnesium and if I were to get two different supps of good quality they would cost more than just the ZMA.
        Plus ZMA the zinc/magnesium is chelated with aspartate (Aspartic acid) which is hard to find as a stand alone zinc or magnesium supplement.

        • 4 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah but you need to see how much zinc and mag are in the ZNA by mg. Often the combined pills don't have much.

          • 4 months ago
            Anonymous

            ZMA is standard at 30mg of zinc and 450mg magnesium but I don't know if that's the element weight or the weight of it chelated so you got me idk.

  19. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dishonestly I don't know that I find any benefit from ashwa. MAYBE improved sleep quality? Maybe? Took it for like a month and found no real benefit.

    Haven't tried tongkat. I hear it's good stuff but who knows. All these companies can have next to none of the ingredient in the supplements they're providing so you never know how much you're getting.

  20. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    CBD is snake oil right. I'm having terrible sleep, tried everything, no lights, get sunlight, melatonin, magnesium etc nothing works. at this point I'm willing to waste 30 bucks

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      what does your diet look like? are you eating before bed or drinking caffeine?

  21. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    If I am taking 50mg zinc picolinate, do I need to take copper?

    • 4 months ago
      Anonymous

      Might be a good idea.

  22. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    10mg of Dianabol a day keeps the doctor away.

  23. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tell me about the Dhea

  24. 4 months ago
    Anonymous

    im going to take some of this shit tonight. wish me luck bros.

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