Wait, y'all mfs really taking protein powder? It's trash lol
If you really need to supplement protein, why not eat real food that is high in protein and has other nutrients like
>fat free greek yogurt
>fat free cottage cheese
>fish
>lean beef
>chicken breast
These all have a similar calorie to protein ratio as protein powder and cost the same. Why eat slop instead of real food?
You don't understand I HAVE to buy product I MUST consoom shiny thing internet man tells me to buy
Whey protein powder will metabolize much more quickly
Can you tell me why that matters? No? You're just parroting moron shit that doesn't matter? Cool
Bro you have a 30 second anabolic window after you exercise or you don't absorb the protein. In fact you have to drink your protein out of your gnc shaker cup while you workout out if you want any gains. Otherwise ngmi
Metabolic window. It takes hours to digest solid protein but you'll have the whey metabolizes in an hour.
More like an hour maybe a few at the most.
this moronic homie actually believes the anabolic window shit lmaoooooo
>after workout hungry
>body craving nutrients
>do i give it whey that is cheaper and faster(both to consume and absorb)
>or eat normal food
both are fine, but whey is cheaper and faster
And half of it is burned as energy because of how fast it's absorbed
Lol half of it goes into your gut digested. You are paying money to fart more and shit out half digested protein powder. That's why pro-bodybuilders will literally spend $700 per week on steak and fish and hours cooking and cleaning instead of drinking protein shakes that they get for free. No athletes or bodybuilders drink this garbage even though they all get it for free. They just eat food. There is a reason for this. Because it is junk and it's loaded with contaminants. Just buy real food and stop being a moron.
Why do you think whey powder isn't real?
Where in the wild can you find whey protein powder? Go ingest your soi and artificial sweeteners
>Where in the wild can you find whey protein powder?
Anywhere that isn't a supermarket
Are you brain dead?
Nice cope
Yogurt ingredients
>milk
Protein powder ingredients
>50 variants of soi and trash trust us bro
Milk curdles into cheese and yogurt if left out too long, soibrain
Oh wow you’re populating your gut with 5 lab grown commercial strains of bacteria sounds great kek
I've never seen cope on this level before. Very impressive
I ferment my own foods why would I want to blast my microbiome with billions of CFUs of a monoculture of some lab reared commercial strain of bacteria selected for its industrial/commercial properties? Makes no sense.
Wow those sure are a lot of big words you definitely aren't still a coping moron
Lol which word was big for you? You’re just defensive because you fell for the industrial probiotics meme.
>Yogurt bad because I am moronic and say so
Is shitskin mad because it makes him shart himself? lol
I never said it was bad but I wouldn’t be gloating about eating Lactobacillus acidophilus NCFM(R) and thinking it’s the same as eating the same yogurt or fermented food with diverse wild type strains. But hey if you like your gut microbiome to be comprised of a handful of commercial strains go for it what could go wrong kek
NTA, hard to get legit stuff here. I'd make it myself (like I have with sourdough) if I had the option, but my roommates' cats shit and piss everywhere so no dice.
>commercial yogurt the same as homemade
Good goy.
I know all of you are trolling but I just wanted to say I make my own Greek yogurt and its based.
You can too
I’m not trolling. I make yogurt, sourdough, sauerkraut, beer and kimchi. I like cooking and growing food and I’m a microbiologist so I’m naturally interested in fermentation. I want to try making my own fermented cheese soon I keep putting that off for some reason. My neighbor does dry-cured ham and fermented sausages and I would also like to get into that especially with a good mentor to learn from.
How the hell do you manage without a proper sanitary space to prep your tools? I'd love to do the same, but I don't have much space or security for my cultures (roommates, as previously mentioned).
>t. DIY biotechgay
I have a home with space to do everything properly. Not enough space for a home gym unfortunately.
Gotcha. I'm poor, so not an option yet. Trying my damnedest to grind my way into a decent career path for 6 figure income. Seems like biotech is the way to go.
Do you do anything useful with the biotech? Like longevity experiments on yourself? I'm taking this substance I'm hoping corrects misfolded collagen.
Honestly, I haven't had the time to perform any experiments, but I have some plans for engineering tissue- and cell-compatible interfaces for things like prosthetics, implants, interfaces, and transplants (e.g. artificial kidneys).
The short term stuff is more related to analyzing and applying genetic, epigenetic, and environmental factors in growth, development, and pathology; I'd like to see if an artificial womb can be designed such that the tissue substrate for the fetus can be designed / replaced as needed. I figured that there are factors not being considered in current designs that may have an influence on neonatal health, and by proxy, lifelong health.
I'd also like to see about developing living analogues to currently mechanical / electrical components, chiefly computers, as models for laboratory testing. I know that sounds weird, but in the context of developing neural interfaces, it may be important for the "digital self" which may arise from said interfaces to have the reference and processing capacity to do independent work from their organic host.
>TL;DR
Nanomachines, son
Hey,are sugar alcohols good for growing mycelium instead using sugars such as syrups,honey,etc.?
currently looking into what could be used for optimal growth
Is there anything actually wrong with store bought probiotic yogurt
Its full of Chinese lead
No, ignore the shitskin
Yes, everything. Making your own yogurt is super easy. Pasteur is criminal worse than Hitler
Keep being amasing.
Those people arguing with you are morons who have never known the taste of real living food
Where in the wild can you find yoghurt and cheese?
homosexual
Whey protein is a byproduct of cheese production. They literally used to just dump the whey out. Now they dehydrate it and sell it to someone who puts dye and flavoring on it before dumping it in a plastic tub and slapping a label on it. Enjoy your cheese byproduct powder.
Chicken breast is the ultimate protein kick. Season 2 or more pounds and put in a slow cooker. Takes 6 hours. Shred it, store it, reheat 6oz whenever you want 60g of protein. Mix with Buffalo sauce and cheese.
Do you think people here only eat whey and never chicken?
I think there's a huge incel population that eats teddies primarily and aspires to eat whey as a healthier option. I want to move them to meal prep and shredded chicken breast is the literal easiest prep.
I consume both because I'm actually strong, lift and don't hold myself back with dualistic tribalist bullshit like the whiny homosexual who made this thread
So what are you a whining homosexual about? Me personally I can't get girls out of my head. Even when all hope is lost.
I read ledgers of what farmers ate in my area 100s of years ago and whey was a staple food.
>Where in the wild
Jfc, kys.
Literally anywhere when you search "unflavoured whey" you dumb gorilla Black person
I have never seen it.
Because it takes a combined of 3 minutes to prepare, consume and wash the shaker. Also, some have great taste too
It takes 0 minutes to open a yogurt and eat it
>taste
Are you 12?
you're dismissive of whey powder, but advocate for store bought pasteurozed 'yogurt'?
Greek yogurt is literally just whey protein. All you're doing is paying more...
Wrong, protein powder is ~$1.15 a scoop for ON and filled with trash additives I can get a 450 cals of nonfat greek yogurt for ~$3.50 which is 3.75 servings of protein powder or $4.3 of protein powder
>The protein from the food you ate earlier magically disappears bro
>No one got swole before whey protein bro
Paying 0.685 USD per scoop here
>body fortress ftw
Brother you can get it for significantly cheaper by buying directly from the dairy supplier. I hear Bongard's is cost efficient.
I think it's mostly casein but yours not wrong. Whey has a place. Just buy a good brand without crap in it. I buy Thorne.
>whey has a place
No it literally doesnt
There is no benefit to drinking your dried cheese daily
>muh protein numbers
It's a fricking meme, Training is 90% of muscle growth. As long as you're not eating gummy bears and pastries all day you will grow muscle if you train correctly and eat a lot of good food. forcing down a cheese drink wont get you 18" lean arms
>dried cheese
Why are you willingly wrong? Whey is what is leftover AFTER making cheese. This is literally taught in nursery school with Little Miss Moffett
do homies really think that your muscles wont grow unless you have a fricking scoop or two of protein per day
Are people this moronic? Do you just eat pastries and cereal all day?
It's called being on a calorie deficit. it's more to just maintain muscle while cutting.
If you are trying to get big it is easier on your stomach to drink part of the protein than to down 3 tubs of cottage cheese. Whey protein also is absorbed very quickly and is very portable so it is a perfect post workout snack to have at the gym. You can meet your protein needs other ways, but is a convenient and cheap way to get your protein.
>get my protein in!!
Have you ever realised that you're the moron who has led to every product making a "protein" variant
Eat meat once a day and you will have enough protein.
>Have you ever realised that you're the moron who has led to every product making a "protein" variant
Not my problem
Whey and goyslop candy bars with heckin' protein aren't the same thing. Whey is just a bi product of cheese.
>Eat meat once a day and you will have enough protein.
You are either dyel or fat as frick. You have to eat a lot of meat to get your protein. I'm not going to scarf down a whole chicken a day and it isn't really affordable.
>eat meat once a day
yeah if you eat a shitload of meat. if you're not hogging it up you only get 25-50 from meat and a lot of us need 100+ so shut the frick up
why do you sound brown OP
Because it's easy to make a protein shake before I go to bed and drink it on my way to work after my gym session. Before I start my workout I eat four fried eggs cooked in lard for breakfast.
You pay for the convenience. I lift during work hours and when I’m done I go back to my office and down 50 g of protein and 5 g creatine in minutes. No meal prep or eating when I’m not hungry or anything like that.
The frick do you mean "for the convenience" unless you literally don't eat the rest of the day
Oh, also unless you unironically believe in a protein absorption window lmao
I eat breakfast and lunch and after I lift I have a protein shake as a convenient and easy 50 g protein boost. I don’t want a meal after I lift.
>You pay for the convenience. I lift during work hours and when I’m done I go back to my office and down 50 g of protein and 5 g creatine in minutes. No meal prep or eating when I’m not hungry or anything like th-ACK
Cope, you are just moronic
>Cope, you are just retar0 ACK!
I eat tuna and other fish but I would prefer not to eat canned tuna five times a week because of mercury and just getting sick of eating canned fish in my office after a hard workout.
You can’t beat the convenience of a protein shake. You can say it is overpriced and tastes bad and other things but it is hands down super convenient.
Then eat canned chicken same convenience dumb consoomer
It will take cans of this to get the same amount of protein as one protein, but you can go and force yourself to eat inordinate amounts of fish while I drink my delicious chocolate shake
why do morons act like you can only have protein powder OR meat/cheese/yoghurt etc. i just dont like eating breakfast so i have a smoothie, problem?
One, because people think they can replace a varied and natural diet with a drink
Two, because protein and diet is overrated as frick outside of a few rules such as eating actual food and in a larger quantity of it if you want to get bigger
And thirdly, if you don't like breakfast then just skip it
>if you want to get bigger
if you don't why the frick are you here?
To troll obviously
>y'all mfs really taking protein powder? >Why eat slop instead of real food?
I don't eat my whey, ESL browntard. I drink it.
It's easier to drink 50g of protein + eat whatever remaining I need than to eat all the protein I need. Drinking calories is always easier than eating them
Gives you options. Missed a meal/busy? Boom, low cal easy 120 calories. Clever in the kitchen? Make a dessert out of it, works great during a cut when you're craving. Being against it is stupidity - hurr, I don't like extra tools at my disposal, you need to suffer with plain boiled chicken breast!11!
moron
Hey anon IST here I've made brownies, custard pies, smoothies, pastries, and fudge with protein powder. Shit it even works in cake if you're clever. Gelatin is better for that though.
Can I get a brownie recipe with protein powder? Do you just use the box mix? I like this one.
I usually write my recipes on the fly and they typically turn out well. If you're gonna use protein powder, I'd suggest not using a premix. King Arthur's website has a good base brownie recipe, and if you substitute the cocoa powder for protein powder, you should achieve similar results with an improved macro profile. I'd suggest learning baker's percentages and the effect of protein on rheological and structural properties of baked goods; it's how I found out gelatin + veggie oil = protein butter for cake.
You make it sound all complicated. People been making cake with jello mixes for a long time. I like to cook, but I think the box brownie mix tastes better than my homemade. I think that partially because store bought cocoa powder is trash.
Jello mix is modified starch usually, not gelatin. What cocoa powder are you using for it to taste like trash? I don't typically use Nestle - if I use powder at all (and that's what's usually at the store). Good ingredients are the foundation for good food.
If you're gonna use a premix, you're gonna mess up its structure and cooking properties if you just add protein powder without consideration for the other ingredients. Post instructions, I'll see what I can do.
My mom always cooked with Hershey cocoa powder. I've found that has a burned taste. Nestle I do think a little better, but it is still pretty low quality.
I think KA has a post on cocoa types and sources. Long and short: match Dutch cocoa to baking powder and natural cocoa to baking soda, lest you get bitter or sour aftertastes.
Also, good chocolate allows for a lot of flavor combinations.
>dark
Wine, Guinness, coffee, sour fruit juices, sesame
>milk
Peanut butter, malt, sweet fruit juices, almonds, coconut
>white
Vanilla, cashew, hazelnut, cream cheese
My test is hot chocolate. If it can't make a good one of those then it isn't good enough for my baked goods.
Yep. That's why I like Ghirardelli shit. No I'm not a shill I just default to their products when I have the option. Lindt is a close second. Godiva is overrated. Hershey got some weird funk. Nestle is mid (I buy it on sale for shit like trail mix).
For reference:
>https://www.kingarthurbaking.com/recipes/fudge-brownies-recipe
4 large eggs
1 1/4 cups (106g) Dutch-process cocoa -> substitute fully for protein powder
1 teaspoon table salt
1 teaspoon baking powder
1 teaspoon espresso powder, optional for enhanced flavor
1 tablespoon King Arthur Pure Vanilla Extract
16 tablespoons (227g) unsalted butter
2 1/4 cups (447g) granulated sugar -> I usually swap about 50g for brown
1 1/2 cups (180g) King Arthur Unbleached All-Purpose Flour
2 cups (340g) chocolate chips -> use dark chocolate, Ghirardelli 85% is based
Thanks. I typically add nestle toll house chocolate morsels to my box mix. I make my own homemade vanilla which also helps. Nice tip on the brown sugar. I exclusively use dark brown sugar now. So much better.
Fair nuff. I'll dig around for one of my recipes cards, if I have the time in the morning. Most of the time I write my recipes so I can use better ingredients or make substitutions for other people (like beans for veggiegays, oil+gel for flavor profile, oats + nut flour for glutengays). That reminds me - I need to make another chocolate cake recipe, for use with unflavored whey powder.
So basically, if you are a fat, lazy moron who can't carry a can of tuna around in the rare exception that you don't have access to a proper lunch after working out, then you should eat protein cancerpowder?
ITT: seething consoomers
>y'all
>fat free
The only reason I drink protein shakes is post work out because it's also a good time to put a few grams of creatine
1 whole chicken is about 6 dollars and has about 200 grams of protein. You get about 33 grams of protein per dollar this way.
Whey protein is about 30 dollars for 2lbs, or 22 grams of protein per dollar.
Whey protein is: more expensive, less enjoyable, more filled with toxic metals.
There isn’t even a debate. There is NO justification for that shit.
I’m Canadian and $6 for a whole chicken makes me weep.
NOTHING is stopping you from raising chickens, even in an apartment. Would be easier to raise them for eggs though unless you have a backyard.
>even in an apartment
1 neighbor complaint and I'm in jail for city bylaw violation dipshit
>Whey protein is about 30 dollars for 2lbs, or 22 grams of protein per dollar.
This has already been debunked
Fricking moron no it hasnt, I literally just checked the prices
warning: this poster is spreading misinformation.
If
said it was debunked then it was debunked. Go back to Truth Social and donate to Drumpf’s prison fund or whatever you normally do when you aren’t sowing lies.
You are getting ripped off bro
I do not purchase chinese lead powder so nobody is ripping me off
I already over 100g of real food protein everyday. I don't want to cook another meal.
Sometimes I want a banana and coffee for breakfast and still want 20-30 grams of protein involved. Also I buy whey and collagen because you're a homosexual.
If whey protein isnt real food then neither is cheese. It being a "supplement" in the first place is all marketing. Its quite literally a cheese making byproduct that they discovered was high in protein because places that they dumped whey in would grow algae.
>cooking (destroying) food
>dehydrating it
>adding sugar
>thinking it gives you anything but slop your immune system has to fight off
I don't want to eat meat everyday
Cringe and ngmi
IST truly is the most moronic board after /misc/
no one buys whey for 30€/kg, i bought mine for 13-14€ per so just for the protein content there is nothing that beats whey. i agree with the sweetened shit though, unsweetened/unflavoured whey is the shit though
>fat free anything
have a nice day bpd hormonelets
I eat all of those things, in addition to whey powder.
If it’s good protein, then why not both?
There's no reason to buy whey when you can just use nature's steroid, the egg. 36 eggs/day is like a dbol cycle.
I’m 31 and I can tell you from experience that every phase of my life that I have gone without whey protein my gains suffered because of it. It’s just easier to hit your protein goal and it fills you up with aminos
>Attacks whey
>Top two alternatives are also whey
Because it's cheaper and you need more variety.
You usually combine all sources instead of eating chicken breast 3 times a day.
Black person, I eat about 250-300g protein on training days and only eat 2-3 solid meals because I get full easily.
So, protein powder it is, you giant Black person.
>I eat about 250-300g protein
why tho? are you 400lbs of lean tissue?
It's a convenience product but hasn't actually been worth the money since before covid when the process skyrocketed.