What is the actual healthiest diet? I tried keto/carnivore and it just wrecked my skin and made me feel tired all the time
What is the actual healthiest diet?
What is the actual healthiest diet? I tried keto/carnivore and it just wrecked my skin and made me feel tired all the time
Unironically the old food pyramid
Unironically kys
This unironically
The old food pyramid with a little bit more protein like lean meat, fish, and dairy if you want to build muscle. Ignore schizoids who don't understand the food pyramid and don't get that you're barely supposed to consume any sugar or sweets with that model, which is one of the main causes of modern obesity.
>sugar or sweets with that model, which is one of the main causes of modern obesity
the fat you eat is the fat you wear, you're the schizoid here
That isn't even the main complaint I hear about the food pyramid. If anything people complain that it doesn't recommend eating more fat (fat is on the same level as sugar and sweets iirc). So if anything it seems like you agree with it.
you sheepishly think that sugar makes you fat, so the food pyramids should've encouraged much more sugar than recommended
Yes, sugar makes you fat. Especially consuming large quantities of added sugars. So does overconsuming fat, but it's not the only reason.
>Yes, sugar makes you fat
delusional, it's impossible to get fat on sugar, fat makes you fat, not sugar, remember that the fat you eat is the fat you wear
>It's impossible to get fat on sugar
Utter delusion, please log off and go do the daily sudoku mister McDougall
what delusion? you're the delusional one here
Sneed oils would be in the top point too. All our problems solved
>White bread healthier and more nutritious than fruits and vegs
Based
It doesnt say that so
Just hit your macros and avoid industrialized/canned/fast food. How is this hard for you people? Is overintelectualizing simple problems an autistic trait? This is the simplest shit in the world.
I love sardines
>You can pepper to taaaaste
>You can eat them dudes plain
>and the fish is safe cause it's low on the food chain
OP just wants to talk, he got all his friends here
The optimal routines and diets are well-established but there are a million fitness influencers and other salesmen on the internet who need to make money somehow, so they have to come up with meme routines or meme diets. Anything that is new and exciting to attract a broader audience that they can sell/advertise shit to. Just look at the liver king guy. He’s a prime example of this.
Unfortunately the internet is filled with tens of millions of drooling retards who believe in their bullshit and peddle it to other people on places like IST
Same. I will not give up sardines, I don't care what you say anon.
Anyone not knowing the answer to this is just being an obtuse retard.
Just eat and see what feels good. Low carb was good for me.
Its not hard, avoid processed crap and seed oils and then eat what you feel like.
> Muh one extreme is bad therefore the other extreme is good!
What a basic bitch gay you are.
In order of precedence:
>raw pasture-raised milk with at least 50% fermented dairy (yogurt, kefir, buttermilk etc)
>pasture-raised ruminant meat
>omnivore meat and eggs (chicken, pork) raised on fermented grains, skim milk, kitchen waste and foraged food
>fermented plant foods (sourdough bread, sauerkraut)
>fresh organic fruits and vegetables
>dried/canned organic fruits and vegetables
>beef before chicken, fish or pork
nah. beef is by far the most overrated animal food
Beef is by far the most nutritious animal. Beef liver the most nutritious food there is. It's not even something to argue about, the macro and micro are simply complete for a human.
Vitamin A is extremely toxic bro.
(1) People die of eating liver from vitamin A poisoning. If you don't die right away, you will get diseases later.
(2) Vitamin A breaks down into retinoic acid which is a chemotherapy drug and causes severe birth-defects. It destroys your stem cells and causes acne.
How is that even relevant. Drinking too much water will kill you, that doesnt mean water is bad.
fatty fish is very comparable, and doesn't pose the same issues with link to artherosclerosis
Please stop using fatphobic language. Mr. Fish is trying his best, and has lost 16 lbs this year.
meat doesn't cause atherosclerosis doe
white meat doesnt
red meat doesn't
not to say that it is definitive, but there is evidence out there
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9556326/
why would you get micros from the one that has potential negatives, when you could get those same micros from a white meats like fish?
seafoods are the only flesh based proteins that have comparable or even better micronutrients content compared to red meat but mercury is arguably an even bigger concern and not to mention the plastics and other kind of toxins in the sea while chickens are pretty piss poor micronutrients wise and their fats are so dependent on what they're fed with, also
>Research reported in this publication was supported by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation
so if we're going by that, dairy is probably the safest one, vegetarians ftw i guess
ruminants are the safest meat to eat, though agree that there are better ruminants than beef like lambs, goats, bisons and buffalos
Ehhh beef is fantastic but you’re better off eating mostly chicken, THEN lean beef, then pork. Chicken is not only cheaper than beef, but way less fatty. The best balance I’ve found (granted I’m currently cutting) is chicken 5 days a week, beef 2, pork on special occasions. Unless you’re eating 90+ lean beef (which is expensive af) the fat:protein isn’t worth it more than a few days a week. Ig if you’re single it could work better because you’re only shopping for one person but when you’ve got a family it’s way less practical.
You know there's so much more than macronutrients right? Chicken is very low in micronutrients, it's basically equivalent to protein powder. You should be eating red meat as often as possible.
You could, but again from a cost perspective, as well as a caloric perspective, you could also take vitamins. $60 in vitamins will last you 3 months if you buy in bulk. Believe me, once the cut is done I’ll be eating plenty more beef but it’s way more practical to eat chicken
peat
Med diet. Actual med diet, ie. red wine, olive oil, main calorie source refined carbs.
>alcohol
>rancid fats
>insulin spikes
sounds healthy
and with red meat too i presume?
>beans, lentils, peas, peanuts
>brown pasta, brown rice, brown bread, oats
>olive oil
>seeds, nuts, fresh fruit
>cabbage family vegetables, spinach
if not vegetarian or vegan add
>fish, eggs, greek yogurt, kefir
*
>potatoes
>limit your salt intake
>limit your sugar intake
>beans, lentils, peas, peanuts
>brown pasta, brown rice, brown bread, oats
All terrible, enjoy your antinutrients and plant defense toxins.
Sorry I'm not retarded and can cook my food.
Cooking your food doesn't remove the lectins, retard. Intestinal permeability guarantees the blood-brain barrier is also compromised. Inflammation is always found in the brain if it's found in the gut. This is why you're mentally ill and pretend to be a women, which you are not.
Do you have any negative health outcome studies to back up your claim? Or just random mechanistic speculation schizo rambling
Elimination-style diets have existed for decades at this point. Is it impossible for tranners like yourself to put two and two together, or do you always need the form of study that never happens in nutrition science so that you can continue to chud out, despite mechanisms already being identified, causes being identified, and logic being readily available for everyone else?
So you don't have any scientific evidence and just have schizo chud rambling, thats what I thought. I'll keep eating my beans, rice and pasta.
So no
You're soaking for at least 5 days, right anon? Otherwise you're still loading up on antinutrients.
>Soaking and germinating grains is a good idea, but it does not eliminate phytic acid completely. Significant amounts of phytic acid will remain in most sprouted grain products. For example, malting reduces wheat, barley or green gram phytic acid by 57 percent. However, malting reduces anti-nutrients more than roasting.36 In another experiment, malting millet also resulted in a decrease of 23.9 percent phytic acid after 72 hours and 45.3 percent after 96 hours.37
>In legumes, sprouting is the most effective way to reduce phytic acid, but this process does not get rid of all of it. Germinating peanuts led to a 25 percent reduction in phytates. After five days of sprouting, chick peas maintained about 60 percent of their phytate content and lentils retained about 50 percent of their original phytic acid content. Sprouting and boiling pigeon pea and bambara groudnut reduced phytic acid by 56 percent.38 Germinating black eyed beans resulted in 75 percent removal of phytate after five days sprouting.
From your source:
https://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/vegetarianism-and-plant-foods/living-with-phytic-acid/#gsc.tab=0
"Soaking grains and flour in an acid medium at very warm temperatures, as in the sourdough process, also activates phytase and reduces or even eliminates phytic acid."
Come here anon, you need a hug.
So you're making sourdough bread from beans, oats and whole grain pasta?
Anon, first it's the lectin, than it's phytic acid. I can hear your nails climbing on that lovely mirror, please stop embarrassing yourself.
I only posted about phytates -- seems you're having trouble with the concept of multiple posters. I can also see you don't have a real response, so go ahead and continue enjoying your whole grains.
so what do you eat then? bacon-wrapped wood?
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/anti-nutrients/
"Keep in mind that anti-nutrients may also exert health benefits. Phytates, for example, have been found to lower cholesterol, slow digestion, and prevent sharp rises in blood sugar. [2] Many anti-nutrients have antioxidant and anticancer actions, so avoiding them entirely is not recommended. [3,5,8]"
>anti-nutrients
>good for you
sounds like they have a branding problem
Yeah, you want to share a slice?
Overnight works great, what is this five days bullshit coming from.
The process of cooking eliminates the problem. Come on anon I am sure you know how to soak and boil food at your age. Like grains and beans, vegetables also contain antinutrients. Would you say they are not beneficial because of that?
Whole grains have higher nutrient content, more fibres, antioxidants and vitamins.
>The process of cooking eliminates the problem.
It does not, chud.
I can see you are not the smartest person around. It's all good.
You have not a single study, not a single source, that can show that cooking eliminates the antinutrients that cause inflammation, the same antinutrients that have caused your brain to be inflamed and damaged and are making you chud out right now.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/anti-nutrients/lectins/
"In many large population studies, lectin-containing foods like legumes, whole grains, and nuts are associated with lower rates of cardiovascular disease, weight loss, and type 2 diabetes. [8-11] These foods are rich sources of B vitamins, protein, fiber, and minerals, and healthy fats. Thus, the health benefits of consuming these foods far outweigh the potential harm of lectins in these foods."
NTA but this is simply an admission that there is harm…
Especially if we consider there are non-lectin involving convenient ways to obtain the same nutrition.
Btw I eat food with lectins like Tomatoes, lentils, and chickpea. It’s fairly convenient, and I think I’m in good health.
Also, this isn’t a study, it’s an article about some studies — the studies themselves are important because people can draw very different conclusions from the same data (unfortunately).
>non-lectin involving convenient ways to obtain the same nutrition.
Except those will contain some other scary particles and then you'll have to restrict those and then you end up not eating anything
You’ve got to back words up, without examples or a study how do I know all the alternatives also have scary particles? Also, I’m versed in biochem so if you want to use more nuanced language I’d be grateful.
Scary particles = Lectins, Oxalates, Phytic acid, Cholesterol, Phytoestrogen, Saturated fat, Polyunsaturated fat, Neu5Gc, microplastics, etc
Yes quite literally everything will have something people will tell you is killing you
Lectin meme science is a favorite of quacks, long lived populations eat a lot of lectins, fat americans do not, ergo we can deduce it's nothing to waste time thinking about.
Is there anything bad with eating white rice? Not OP just wondering.
Gut permeability.
That's only with bread and gluten.
>Is there anything bad with eating white rice?
No not exactly.
Just remember that rice does get moldy after a few days. So it doesn't last long once it's cooked.
>I tried keto/carnivore and it just wrecked my skin and made me feel tired all the time
Kys Moxyte, nobody loves you. The only animal proteins vegans like you consume is african semen You will never be a woman.
The full English diet. Sausages, bacon, eggs, black pudding (protein), baked beans , fried tomato, mushrooms (fibre), fried bread, toast (carbs).
English people look like shit though
Lovely innit
how about just eat moderate amounts of various normal food instead of wanting to be "redpilled" on some autistic specific diet.
But you IST retards are unable to think or care for yourselves so you need to follow a checklist written by someone else for every set you do in the gym or piece of food you stuff in your stupid mouths
60% Protein / 20% healthy fats / 10% veggies
the rest 10% is human sperm
at this point it's pretty much a fact that the mediterranean diet is the best
Same source:
"However, phytic acid is also labeled an antinutrient because humans lack the phytase enzyme needed to break it down. As it passes through the gut, phytic acid binds to minerals like iron, zinc, and calcium so they are not well-absorbed in the intestine. This will occur only when phytic acid is eaten with foods containing these minerals at the same meal. The average Western diet usually has enough nutrients and variety to protect from a true deficiency, especially with the inclusion of some animal proteins (e.g., lean pork, poultry, shellfish) that are rich in zinc and heme-iron, a well-absorbed form of iron. A nutrient deficiency more likely occurs in developing countries where a variety of food choices is limited, the risk of malnutrition is higher, and legumes or whole grains are staples that are eaten with every meal. Also at risk are those who eat a vegan diet (which not only consists of plenty of seeds/nuts, legumes, and grains but these foods contain poorly absorbed non-heme iron), or those who already have an iron or zinc deficiency due to medical reasons."
There might be better ones out there, but it's by far the best one that is both accessible and doesn't taste like absolute dogshit.
the mediterranean diet is objectively the best one as long as you don't do the cucked one where there's basically no cheese or meat unlike real mediterranean areas
a normal, balanced diet that includes 100 g of carbs (not more, not less), 100 g of animal protein, and many different vegetables
The healthiest diet is the one that:
1) meets the calorie requirement to maintain your goal weight based on your sex and height
2) is roughly 35% protein, 45% carbs and 20% fat in terms of where your calories comes from
3) meets or exceeds all micronutient requirements
4) and is affordable, tasty, easy and quick enough to make to fit your schedule.
Generally this means:
1) drinking more water than alcohol, soft drinks, coffee/tea, milk and juice combined
2) regularly eating as many different kinds of fruits and vegetables (fresh or frozen) as possible.
2.5) remember that variety as important as quantity. it's ok to just eat a bunch of carrots if that's all that you have but it's much better to eat a bit of carrots, a bit of peas, a bit of broccoli, etc.
3) choosing whole grains over processed grains, i.e. whole wheat bread over white bread, steel cut oats instead of instant oats, etc.
4) making sure that the dairy you're eating isn't just higher fat whole milk or cheese but low-fat dairy products like cottage cheese or greek yogurt for example
5) Limiting higher fat "red" meat like beef and pork to 2-3 days a week and eating more lean meats like chicken, turkey, fish and other seafood most days a week.
5.5) making sure animal protein makes up at most a little over half of protein consumption. usually this can by done by regularly eating foods like eggs, legumes/pulses, tofu, nuts, peas, etc.
6) avoiding as much as possible alcohol, added salt, added sugar, cholesterol, and trans fats
thanks moxyte
I hereby offer you the fountain of life
https://raypeat.com/articles/
>tried keto/carnivore and it just wrecked my skin and made me feel tired all the time
This is not what doing this diet does. There are drawbacks but "skin" isn't one of them.
Also doing carnivore does not mean you're in ketosis, you obviously don't know what you're talking about and never tried it.
I think you're Moxyte and false flagging.
Yep, I was right.
Moxyte thread.
A balanced one.
Literally just eat a balanced diet and make sure the bulk of those items to fulfill each macro need are whole foods and not hyper processed shit.
>balanced
Meme word that you heard from your grade school teacher and repeat like an NPC.
This does not mean anything and you can't define it.
Vegetables/salad with beef and deenz
ITALIANS ARE THE LONGEST LIVING MALES ON THE PLANET. THEY EAT NOTHING BUT PASTRIES AND ESPRESSO FOR BREAKFAST, PIZZA AND PASTA FOR THE OTHER MEALS WITH MAYBE A SALAD AND A BOTTLE OF WINE. THIS IS THE HEALTHIEST DIET.
modern italians won't live nearly as much as their grandpas who didn't eat all that crap and were poor so they fasted
IT IS MEASURED BY LIFE EXPECTANCY AT BIRTH SO YES THEY WILL OUTLIVE THEIR GRANDPAS
how do you know how long a baby will live and what it will eat?
ALSO THE SWISS ARE THE SECOND LONGEST LIVING MALES, THEY EAT CROISSANTS AND COFFEE FOR BREAKFAST, APPLES AT 11, A HOT MEAL AT LUNCH, COFFEE AND CAKE AS AN AFTERNOON SNACK AND BREAD AND CHEESE FOR DINNER
Why do you type all caps like a retard? Do you think this gives you some type of style or identity?
I SEE YOU HAVE HAD TO RESORT TO AD HOMINEM, THANK YOU FOR ADMITTING DEFEAT GOOD DAY SIR
You cracked the case. Obviously, there are no other variables involved that can contribute to life expectancy.
THE MAASAI HAVE THE LOWEST LIFE EXPECTANCY IN THE WORLD. A DIET HIGH IN CARBS, CHEESE, COFFEE, WINE AND LOW IN MEATS WITH THE MEAT BEING FATTY CUTS LIKE SALAMI AND SAUSAGE SEEMS TO BE THE HEALTHIEST IN THE BEST METRIC WE HAVE. DR SINCLAIR RECENTLY LINKED OVER CONSUMPTION OF PROTEIN TO RAPID AGING IN TWIN MICE STUDIES
A tribal people exposed to the elements unaided by modern medicine have a low life expectancy. No fucking way.
TRIBES THAT LIVE IN THE SAME AREA AS THEM BUT CONSUME MORE THAN MEAT, MILK AND BLOOD HAVE LIFE EXPECTANCIES 40% LONGER. WHY DO YOU THINK ALL YOU RETARDS ARE NORWOODING AT 25?
You are saying unverifiable bullshit. There is absolutely no way we can have good data on any of these primitive peoples. Besides, there are numerous variables that would need to be controlled to make a fair comparison between these populations.
there is good data on them though, eyes
THE IS A COPE LIFE EXPECTANCY IS VERY EASY TO COLLECT DATA ON, KENYA IS NOT EXACTLY THE MIDDLE OF THE AMAZON. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN STUDYING THEM FOR A HUNDRED YEARS. SORRY IF THIS INFORMATION HURTS YOUR FEELINGS
>Actually believe Africans are competent at collecting and keeping census data.
>why do people keep trying to force this meme that modern "medicine" is a great thing when most of the time it's not
Modern medicine prevents people from dying from all kinds of reasons completely unrelated to health and nutrition. Retard. Obviously, it has a huge impact on average life expectancy, especially for infants and birthing mothers.
>there is good data on them though, eyes
Impossible.
none of what you said about modern medicine was true
Are you really 'well acktually'ing me? They don't have antibiotics. They obviously will have a much higher infant and mother mortality rate.
why do people keep trying to force this meme that modern "medicine" is a great thing when most of the time it's not
portion control is a real thing in europe and does not exist in america
EUROPEANS DONT ACTUALLY EAT LESS CALORIES PER DAY THAN AMERICANS DO, THEY JUST LIVE IN CITIES BUILT BEFORE CARS AND SO THEY HAVE TO WALK EVERYWHERE
https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_food_energy_intake
they also have less industrial waste processing in their food, they don't use novel chemical additives as preservatives like you do
when shills talk about le med diet, they always seem to avoid mentioning cheese. most centenarians always seem to love dairies, especially cheese
WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK IT IN THE LASAGNA OR SHREDDED ON TOP OF THE PASTA AND PIZZA?
>he thinks Italians eat like mario
HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO ITALY? BECAUSE OF EU REGULATIONS NO ONE CAN SIT DOWN TO EAT SO YOU SEE INSANELY HOT WOMEN JUST POP IN TO THE SHOP AND INHALE A CUP OF CARBONARA AND SHOTGUN A GLASS OF WINE AND THEN 360 AND WALK AWAY. THE ITALIAN DIET CONSISTS OF THE SAME 5 INGREDIENTS 50 DIFFERENT WAYS
Stop typing in full cap, this does not make you interesting.
WHEN I WANT YOUR OPINION I WILL GIVE IT TO YOU
Are you yelling or is your caps lock broken?
I mean it kind of makes him stick out
Is it your intention to seem unhinged (all caps)?
I understand the sentiment of what you’re saying but I disagree. He seems mildly more interesting due to a sense of being unhinged.
well that wouldn't line up with a plant onions diet
WHY ARE WE YELLING?
I miss the old diets of eating regular, whole foods. Just avoid heavily processed foods and artificial additives/sugars.
Now it's anti-nutrient this, oil that, it's all fucking horrible now. All of these people who have made ordinary foods seem bad for you are a cancer to society and this board.
Fuck keto morons
Fuck vegan morons
Fuck carnivore morons
Fuck meme diet morons
Just eat meat, fruit, veggies, some dairy and some grains.
why do these type of posts always mention oils? is stopping consumptin of rancid oils too restrictive for you?
I gave myself an eating disorder trying to figure this shit out.
I’m trying to get back here mentally. Still haven’t eaten meat in like 3 months; only just started eating dairy, eggs, and fish again
I think the problem is that it's harder now than it was back then to get foods that haven't been fucked with. Companies nowadays do all they can to convince you something is all natural or whatever but then the fine print says it was farm raised and injected with s0i and cum.
Healthiest in what way?
>for best performance
The Vertical Diet by Stan Efferding is by far the best diet for strength athletes of any kind, for performance.
>most natural
Paleo, by definition. It's also a good middle ground between most diets, in that its not super strict (just eat whole foods), so can be adapted.
>best for longevity
Bryan Johnsons Blueprint diet. The man has spent millions reversing his age and this is the diet he has developed.
>bryan johnsons diet
are you seriously recommending a vegan diet by a guy who looks like an evil woodland creature?
Yes. He has succesfuly reversed his aging and spent millions in research developing this diet. I highly doubt its not effective. Also, he only looks weird because of deathface due to low bf%, and the weird skin treatment shit he does, which has nothing to do with diet.
why would i rely on any information by a man who looks like that
>He has succesfuly reversed his aging and spent millions in research developing this diet. I highly doubt its not effective. Also, he only looks weird because of deathface due to low bf%, and the weird skin treatment shit he does, which has nothing to do with diet.
This is Harvard's food pyramid, it makes the most sense to me and I've been unintentionally following it
>eat tons of seedoil and bread
>almost no red meat or butter
Jesus. Harvard really isn't worth much nowadays.
Chud, trust the experts. shaken cream is totally worse than extremely processed rancid oils!
>rancid
Why rancid? srs, are all oils rancid? I see "rancid" attached to oils no matter what here.
It's one seriously baffling lie because oils are used in processed shit precisely because they don't go rancid like butter. How ketards lap that up and repeat it like parrots despite seeing that every single day in almost every single processed food product with shelf lives of years is a true manifestation of their utter retardation and herd mindset. Truly no dumber more gullible human exists on this planet than ketolard. It's mentally impossible to be as mentally fucked and braindead as they are.
>ketolard ketolard ketolard ketard
I'm not keto. and why would you blatantly lie so hard? Polyunsaturated fat is known for easily oxidizing and being unstable, and seed oils are mostly Polyunsaturated fat, heated to extreme temps and has lots of chemical cleaners poured on it
also it's way too much polyunsaturated fat to be eating
Oxidized oils are legitimately bad, you can process oils to maintain freshness but they are still oxidized and thus have the same effects as oxidized oils. (Not just seed oils, oxidized olive oil is also disgusting tasting. If I had a source of freshly pressed seed oils I would consume them but I dont.
i had oxidized olive oil and it was truly putrid, and if i remember correctly olive oil is more stable than seed oil, so imagine how that would taste
It’s actually awful. The sad part is, sometimes people keep an old bottle and think that’s how olive oil is supposed to taste, and thus don’t consume it, so they miss out on the very healthy source of fat that olive oil is, and reject the plethora of dishes and side dishes that are healthy and delicious that have olive oil.
Conflicts of interest:
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it's actually a weird thing, same as that dry aged shit, i guess some people just like the taste of rancid foods, and sneed oils usually have a copious amount of added deodorizer to remove the smell
You do realise that seed oils are extremely unstable and spoil very quickly? That is also the main issue with them, animal fats and butter are quite stable, seed oils are not and will cause issues in your body.
Also, that is why rapeseed oil for example is burned with chemicals and deodorants, its spoiled when it leaves the factory but it doesn't smell like anything and won't start really smelling no matter how long its on the shelf. Should tell you something.
>processed shit precisely because they don't go rancid like butter
Butter doesn't go rancid all that quickly, it keeps for a year if kept properly.
>despite seeing that every single day in almost every single processed food product with shelf lives of years
Anon, this is not a good thing.
>Butter doesn't go rancid all that quickly, it keeps for a year if kept properly.
The only reason it goes bad is due to the milk solids and water content. Clarified butter/ghee is very stable
I mean I avoid the seed oils
red meat is the healthiest kind of meat doe
Still gonna use ghee for my eggs every day
BASED and fucking gheepilled..shit makes the best scrambled eggs ever. damn now I wanna go to the store and get some ghee.
What kind of shoe do you guys like to eat? I prefer baked pennyloafers with every meal.
Lmao, I prefer protein socks, the harder the better
>Alcohol
>Multivitamins
>Red Meat and Butter sparingly
I'm just nit picking this is probably an excellent guide for the majority of people
inverted. harvard is satanic confirmed.
>biggest serving is "don't be a fat fuck"
will hamplanets ever recover?
here is the real food pyramid
Suuuuure you did. Wink wink nudge nudge.
just eat these 5 meals for the rest of your life and you will live your longest life.
>literal cocktail of pills
pinnacle of health
I wonder why vegan weirdos are still here, they get humiliated every single time.
Anything I could add to eat so I wouldn’t have to eat those 12 pills?
For maximum longevity and health:
Consume lots of veggies. The more variety the better.
For protein, focus on seafood, chicken, and dairy.
Beef, pork, a goat are ok in moderation. They contain a sugar molecule called nu5gc that causes inflammation in your cardiovascular system - so don't consume them more than once or twice a week
The only oils you should consume are olive, avocado, and coconut.
Fruit should be limited to once a week, and you should only consume what is in season in your locale.
Do not eat fried foods.
Do not eat charred meat.
Do not eat anything that comes out of a box.
beef once a week is an insane restriction
>amerilard who can't go 12 hours without hamburger helper detected.
Have a little fucking respect for yourself, retard. You only view it as a "restriction" if you're too fucking stupid to realize what it does to you over time. But over course, I can't expect a low IQ shart-in-the-mart gay to comprehend life beyond the next weekly BBQ.
retard, there's no reason to eat chickens over ruminants, and i'm not a muttmerican either
It’s a regional thing. I have either some eggs, chicken, fish, lamb or beef everyday with an occasional vegetarian day with just beans or potatoes as me protein. It’s very convenient. Although I’d eat lamb and beef 3-4 times a week if it was cheap and available.
why do i get a feeling the poster number did not increase with this post, also this is the food pyramid recycled, and there is nothing wrong with fried food if you use the right fats
>Mfw my carrots come out of a box
>beef has sugar, therefore don't eat it more than once a week
What a weirdo.
Plant paradox reader spotted
>What is the actual healthiest diet?
broadly, doesn't exist. too much human and dietary variation. you can look into blue zones and such, or if your a longevity nut the works of david sinclair.
bruh why r u even following a strict diet? Just get your calories and protein in. U dont need to even look at any other macros. I literally just eat watever as long as i hit the calories/protein that I need.
Because everyone has diet related gut problems now and they're trying to figure out what to cut
well thats understandable then, hope your gut issue clears up anon. One thing i can mention is to keep your fibre high, theres studies out their of how low fibre depletes good gut bacteria. So keep it high, and gl
Who else squinting they eyes trying to see a Pepe?
80/20 animal/plant. try elimination and vertical diet first.
Ultra high carb, LOW FAT
The fat you eat is the fat you wear, so carb the fuck up for optimal physical and mental performance.
Based. The starchpill is the cheapest of all but no one wants to listen.
Kek
MOXYTE FOCK OIFFFFFFF
Based
oh fuck off, any kind of diet that forces you to cut too much fat or carbs are at best, a short term intervention diet and shouldn't be pushed as a lifestyle because it'd just lead to binging a gargantuan amount of either carbs or fat depending on which meme diets you fell for once you run out of "willpower". i've been duped into both keto and ultra low fat so i knew how bullshit they were, McDougall is no less of a snake oil salesman than Dave Asprey or Gary Taubes
Tell us your rape story Moxyte, I haven't read it yet, only heard other Anons tell about it.
can't you fucking read you moron baboon? my point is that being autistic about minmaxing macros would just do more harm than good. now be a good paypig and give your beloved diet gurus some more money
>The fat you eat is the fat you wear
98% of your bodyfat came from dietary fat
So I can eat as much bread and candies as I want and I will NOT gain weight?
What a great news.
yes
>ketolards say fat doesnt make yuo fat
>vegans say carbs dont make you fat
for fucks sake...
>if you defend carbs you're a vegan
The only two people claiming with straight face that no amount of carbs can make you fat are John McDougall and Durianrider. Both are vegan. I'm not convinced.
i am not moxyte ok!!! i only post all of his images, use all of his terms, and act as schizophrenic and autistic as him, but you gotta trust me alright?
It's almost as if restricting one macro is what alleviates metabolic issues. That fat and carbs in the diet cross-inhibit one another causing inflammation and a negative feedback loop of elevated blood sugar and insulin resistance.
Nah, can't be that. One of them just has to be the cause of all modern ailments.
Fucking nutritional tribalism is absolutely pathetic.
Go away Moxyte, no one cares about your rape trauma.
Actually I'm moxyte and I only posted this
and this
ITT.
Meanwhile you schizos have screamed my name in panic and terror 8 times with zero accuracy as usual. I'm your worst nighmare and it feels so good.
What the fuck are you talking about, I'm Moxyte.
Here is my reddit account to prove it:
https://www.reddit.com/user/moxyte/
You sound like a ketolard.
Argh I've been found out, hiss! *retreats back into shadows* I will get you some day, real moxyte... you've won for now! Alas, until we meet again! Sarabada! *vanishes*
When overfeeding on carbohydrate in the absence of dietary fat the body will first entirely fill up all glycogen stores, then significantly ramp up dietary thermogenesis and unconscious non-exercise activity thermogenesis and then finally begin the taxing process of de novo lipogenesis to convert carbs into fat.
Strict carnivore, head-to-toe. It’s literally the healthiest and most nutritious diet on the planet.
>organic grass fed & finished, of course.
Everything else, and I mean everything, is just a fucking meme.
Rice, beans, oats, milk, fish is all you need. Anything else is wrong
You're what happens when a guy gets another man's ass pregnant
this. you're probably's moxyte's cumsock
try eating only meat for an entire month and become a man for the first time
Meat, fruit, honey, and dairy. Check out dr Paul Saladino on youtube
keto kills. almost took my life.
dash
Also food ratio is everything. That is way too much greens and way too little carbs.
do your own research.this is the only answer. dont stop at people explaining things to you on youtube too because there is way too much misinformation and nobody is immune to misinformation
WFPB or DASH, both
>cure hypertension
>reverse atherosclerosis
>cure nafld
>reverse t2d
HIGH CARB vegan
A varied diet that contains everything but highly processed food. Any restrictive diet that tries to completely cut out a major natural food is shit. Vegan, Keto, Carnivore, they all suck ass. Eat veggies, lean meat, potatoes, fish, lentils, eggs, dairy, fruit and everything else that doesn't come from a chemical manufacturing plant and you'll be the healthiest. This is boring, but it's the truth.
Nice mainstream wisdom dude. You sure are special. It's not like we have never heard this take before.
It's not a good idea to encourage people with metabolic issues to follow your advice, see:
Just a normal pre-industrial diet specific to your culture. If you're of European descent that would consist of meat, bread or pasta, seasonal vegetables and fruits, butter or olive oil; milk, cheese and yogurt; eggs, pulses, broth etc.
You can add "novel" foods that your ancestors never ate (like bananas, coconut oil, etc) on a case by case basis.
Avoid grains and sneed oils and you are 90% of the way there with little thinking.
>all these ultra low fat cultists making a return
damn, where have you been hiding all these years? i miss seeing your battles with ketofags ngl
Yeah I do actually think there's like three, one is moxyte one peatfag and one McDougallfag who eats lean meat and even squeezes fat out of it
>retards with eating disorder and hormonal problems arguing against retards with eating disorder and hormonal problems
quite entertaining tbh
Start your day with some delicious cold oats that have been mixed with milk, greek yogurt and topped with blackberries.
Hack for extremely long satiation and energy right here
You can stick flax, a banana, whatever you want on there too
>flax
chud estrogen bomb for trannies on estrogen, stop trying to undermine the testosterone of trve western men
Why is le scary particle always supposedly estrogenic
The real food pyramid
Just eat a diet that is balanced with everything. Don't eat too much sugar or processed food. Why do Americans hate vegetables so much that they invent reasons like Antinoooootrients to avoid eating them and indulge in fat.
Your country will collapse under the weight of your fatties.
Vertical diet.
I’ve tried a lot of diets and felt by far the best on vertical. I could not sustain long term however.
What’s the vertical diet?
Don’t eat anything while lying down.
I know it sounds ridiculous but it works. Seriously try it out.
Another meme diet
It’s a diet where the goal is to hit your micros as well as possible without supplements. You can adjust the meals based on whether you want to gain, lose, or maintain. If you have IBS or any gut issues most people report it helps a great deal.
Here is an example day from when I did it:
>breakfast
2eggs
tab butter
1/4c cheddar
4baby carrots
10almonds
1c Greek yogurt
2oz cranberry juice
3g beta-alanine
3g citruline malate
Vitamin D pill
>lunch
6oz steak
1c rice
3brazil nuts
Smoothie:
4oz OJ
1c spinach
1/2 lemon, juiced
>Dinner
6oz steak
1c rice or 1 sweet potato
Smoothie: same as above
This comes to ~1800kcal
As a rule of thumb you salt everything. You can obviously have more variety on it I just try to keep things as simple as possible.
Boiled or steamed everything, no sat fats, no sugar just minimal seasoning and plenty of olive oil
STOP DRINKING MILK
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4809873/
>Foods that contain exorphins, such as wheat and dairy products, have indeed a reputation for being rewarding and people find it extremely hard to give them up. The addictive properties of milk were arguably designed by evolution to gratify suckling young. The gut of newborns is highly permeable—not only to the mother’s antibodies as an aid to their still immature immune system, but also to milk opioids (see Teschemacher, 2003). Yet, production of the enzyme for properly digesting milk is genetically programmed to stop after weaning. Regular intake of milk by adults is evolutionarily novel and only started with animal domestication; it was permitted by a mutation of this enzyme in populations that kept cattle. Interestingly and perhaps worryingly, the opioids in bovine milk are 10 times stronger than those in human milk (Herrera-Marschitz et al., 1989). This might not be extraneous to the fact that about half of children up to 4 years of age need their milk bottle to fall asleep at night (in Thailand: Sawasdivorn et al., 2008). Note that, as mentioned, the opioids in wheat are even stronger than those in bovine milk (Zioudrou et al., 1979).
>Evidence that a diet devoid of wheat (and possibly of dairy as well, given the similarity between gluten and casein) can cure some patients with mental illness has been available for nearly 50 years. Yet because other patients—especially in newer and better studies—have not changed on the diet, such evidence has been variously downplayed, discredited, or dismissed. As a result, the message has made it neither to patients and their caretakers nor to psychologists and psychiatrists. After looking at all of these dietary intervention studies, we have come to believe that this lack of communication is a mistake.
It's over dairy bros...
Look at the food pyramid.
Realize its zog propaganda and is therefore intended to harm you.
Realize that since it was created that obesity has skyrocketed.
Invert it to get the actual reality.
Except oil. Don't actually consume 10+ servings of oil, that can stay the smallest.
I tried eating a lot of olive oil once, threw up immediately. Do not attempt.
>Realize that since it was created that obesity has skyrocketed.
Thats so weird because nobody ever ate 11 servings of grains a day
got em
>If you are at a higher risk of heart disease the healthiest diet for you is one lower in fat, cholesterol and sodium
No wonder you think posts with seed oils and reeee meat bad are apparently fine.
lol, also just to remind you, this has been studied and tested and low-fat diet restricting cholesterol just achieved more morbidity and nothing else
>lol, also just to remind you, this has been studied and tested and low-fat diet restricting cholesterol just achieved more morbidity and nothing else
>Well actually the scientists adjusted the data to account for a limited number of specifically chosen confounding variables and found that the associated hazard ratio of increased saturated fat and cholesterol in the diet was higher by 30%. So if you have a 0.01% percent chance of dying of a heart attack/stroke each year, that rises to 0.013%. Bet you feel real stupid now, don't you.
>low-fat diet restricting cholesterol just achieved more morbidity and nothing else
Yes, except that did not happen and it does the opposite
Mediterranean diet
>Mesclun
>Cherry tomatoes
>Sundried tomatoes
>Olives
>Feta cheese
>Sardines, anchovies, et cetera
>Basil, thyme, oregano, fennel, bay leaves et cetera
>Wholegrain pasta
>Goats milk and cheese
>Greek yoghurt
>Mushrooms
So on and so forth
>another meme regional diet
No thanks
Post body