What stimulates the brain more? chess or fitness?

  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God why are chess nerds so insufferable?
    CHESS IS NOT A SPORT YOU FUCKING RETARDS, STOP SPAMMING IST AND IST WITH YOUR GAY BOARD GAME

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chess is a boring game. Most good chess players, with the exception of the very top, are not high IQ chads like the 1% of great chess players might have you believe. Most chess players I've met were utter retards.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Alot of people seem like utter retards because of abuse that resulted in necessary inefficiencies in the brain for survival. This is how schizophrenia develops, as the brain prunes in hyperdrive. Still, I doubt it is permanent unless it is genetic or you are forced to take drugs that cause catastrophic damage.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Speaking from experience are you schizo?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Long time chess player and lifter here. Chess does not stimulate the brain. It's a game like any other. You probably get some stimulation in the early learning stages, like with any new activity. After that it's just an addictive dopamine binge. Chess is just as addictive as any drug. DO NOT start playing chess if you're looking for self improvement. You'll just waste years of your life chasing a dopamine high by mating patzers all day. After 10+ years of chess addiction, I wonder where my life would be, how much more successful I might have been, if I had never found this godforsaken game.

        Lifting, on the other hand, has been nothing but a positive for me mentally and physically.

        When they started looking at how playing videogames affects the brain and thinking they figured that the slow, puzzle games, strategy games, that sort of thing, would show improvements in thinking ability, meanwhile the action games like fps games would give adhd and the like. However, they actually found the exact opposite - fast-paced action games stimulate the brain more and make you better at other intelligence tests.

        https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3417/12/11/5561

        I personally like chess, I actually do think it help me think a little clearer sometimes. But it's a mistake to think that chess is some sort of workout for the mind like weights are for the body.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Slow games inevitably become deconstructed over time into an optimal order of steps. There’s almost always an ideal build path in slower games which reveals itself over time and the strategy component of it completely disappears.
          Fast paced games on the other hand have so much variability between matches that, in any given moment, you’re playing in a unique set of circumstances.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You sure it doesn't claim the exact opposite???

          "Action video games mainly improve visual attention and muscle coordination"

          "Strategy video games mainly improve people’s cognitive processing function, executive function, and memory ability."

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You do have fast pacing in chess if you're playing blitz or bullet. Chess is a game like any other, the difference is a much bigger learning curve

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What about fast paced strategy games? Would that give the benefits of both? Having to micro a ton of units, while planning economy, and still trying to think ahead of your opponent like for example those Koreans when Starcraft was their national sport.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Most of anyone at the top 1% of almost anything very specific are retarded autists- if they were better at anything more normal they wouldn't be the top 1% of that thing.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Chess is a sport. Baseball, football and powerlifting are not sports. Stay mad.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        sorry, you will never be an athlete

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      intermediate chess is bretty gud cause u just think, no strats, no nothing, pure thinking
      master and grandmaster is just pattern/strategy recognition, so chess on GM is like an IQ test, sorta
      yet IQ=/=intelligence, so

      Chess is just memorization. The only good thing coming from it were the cold war kinos about Fischer vs Spassky

      Chess at a high level is literally just memorization. Do math problems instead of the gimmick game

      Long time chess player and lifter here. Chess does not stimulate the brain. It's a game like any other. You probably get some stimulation in the early learning stages, like with any new activity. After that it's just an addictive dopamine binge. Chess is just as addictive as any drug. DO NOT start playing chess if you're looking for self improvement. You'll just waste years of your life chasing a dopamine high by mating patzers all day. After 10+ years of chess addiction, I wonder where my life would be, how much more successful I might have been, if I had never found this godforsaken game.

      Lifting, on the other hand, has been nothing but a positive for me mentally and physically.

      basically what these said
      >tfw magnus is giving up his title
      >hikaru would take it
      >pro chess scene would somehow become even worse than twitch era chess

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're both fun

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chess at a high level is literally just memorization. Do math problems instead of the gimmick game

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >not doing chess puzzles in between sets
    Ngmi

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not both
    make civilised the mind, but make savage the body

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how about both, speed chess is like boxing

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chess is just memorization. The only good thing coming from it were the cold war kinos about Fischer vs Spassky

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's "just memorization" until it isn't. Some fucking idiotic replies in this thread, just as expected.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Long time chess player and lifter here. Chess does not stimulate the brain. It's a game like any other. You probably get some stimulation in the early learning stages, like with any new activity. After that it's just an addictive dopamine binge. Chess is just as addictive as any drug. DO NOT start playing chess if you're looking for self improvement. You'll just waste years of your life chasing a dopamine high by mating patzers all day. After 10+ years of chess addiction, I wonder where my life would be, how much more successful I might have been, if I had never found this godforsaken game.

    Lifting, on the other hand, has been nothing but a positive for me mentally and physically.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      not at all, it's a fight, you beat the other guy, and he thinks about it. It's up until you start beating NMs IMs and then a GM that real dopamine kicks in, and feels like you're the smartest person on earth.

      i agree though if your rating stays the same for more than 6 months then you should reconsider.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's your elo after all these years?

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous
    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      god dangit bobbeh

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >lift for strength
    >maths, programming and philosophy for intelligence and wisdom
    >sparring to put yourself to the test
    get on my level chesscels

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      if true you're what i aspire to be. your presence on IST has me believe youre a posturing bum

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        change my mind: you're more likely to find someone like that on this site than anywhere else.
        in my experience this site attracts both the biggest fuck-ups/retards as well as the smartest people (such as me, a genius)

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I fully agree with you and am also a genius

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    chess

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    drugs
    gg idiot

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Is it true that pro chess players lose a shit ton of water weight per sessions?

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chess is a fucking garbage game. Blitz is the only form of it that is acceptable.

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Listen to Fischer on my headphones while doing my power cleans
    What now, dweeb?

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You'd need more than just chess and fitness.
    Learn some trivia, listen to an audio book, and learn an indigenous language.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      somebody post that stoic chad refusing to listen to wacky 101 harry potter facts for this lame asss bro above me

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/rxjzIgb.jpg

        You can do both. I study while waiting between sets. I also solve math problems and do puzzles.

        It's extreme cringe but if your brain is able to solve problems while you are exhausted it helps you deal with mental pressure down the road.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          do both absolutely but uh
          >learning trivia

          You'd need more than just chess and fitness.
          Learn some trivia, listen to an audio book, and learn an indigenous language.

          kys pseud

  17. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    somebody post that stoic chad refusing to listen to wacky 101 harry potter facts for this lame asss bro above me

  18. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    fitness is how you maintain Neuroplasticity and Chess is a way of making use of it.

  19. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't matter, you can do both. Like the cardiomaxxer on the right in your own image.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      looks autistic if you are big and strong and go play with the chess nerds or inviting the big and cool people at the gym to play a nerdy game like chess

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fitness and chess are equally for losers. If you want to be mentally in the right place, lift for a couple of years then switch over to a sport. In what other realm other than fitness can some guy make a video titled 'HOW TO GET A GIRLFRIEND' and it's perfectly normal? lmao

        You will never be promoted to a queen

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          probably because I am a king

  20. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fitness and chess are equally for losers. If you want to be mentally in the right place, lift for a couple of years then switch over to a sport. In what other realm other than fitness can some guy make a video titled 'HOW TO GET A GIRLFRIEND' and it's perfectly normal? lmao

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you can’t lift and be “mentally in the right place” then you’re probably just a huge pussy. I love lifting and look forward to it every day

  21. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Chess is a children's board game. You can tell because most top players become GMs in their early to mid teens.
    It's a child's board game that some kids become autistically obsessed with, combined with some favorable brain genetics causes them to become really good.
    I say this as someone who plays and follows most of the top players and tournaments.
    At the end of the day, grown adults like Vishy Anand are literally playing kids games at age 50 and acting like they are doing something that's totally not a kids game.
    No difference to a 50 year old playing counter strike at the pro level and acting all high and mighty, and disproportionately over respected by society because society thinks that chess is some kind of genius activity paralleling curing cancer or discovering something new in quantum mechanics.
    It's a fucking kids game lmao
    Also, most players are super awkward and autistic in interviews, like they played so much chess during their critical development that they missed out on learning how to socialize normally with others.

    By the way you will never be a GM, they operate on a completely different level that you can't comprehend:

    Bonus footage: Magnus Carlsen getting beaten by a Black child

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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      This guy is a fucking computer.

      >Bonus footage: Magnus Carlsen getting beaten by a Black child

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      He got blacked by a 60 IQ monkey.

  22. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Obviously exercise. Homo sapiens have never encountered a life or death situation that involves staring at a gameboard. Unlike intense exercise.

  23. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What about chessboxxing though?

  24. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IT'S CALLED mind MUSCLE connection, NERDS
    >MOTOR NEURONS?????
    THEN BUY ME A LIFTED F350 AND ACCUSE ME OF HAVING A SMALL DICK CAUSE I'M GOING TO HARVARD

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