What the point in staying natty if I'll be bigger with roids i.e more attractive i.e more sex i.e more happiness in life
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What the point in staying natty if I'll be bigger with roids i.e more attractive i.e more sex i.e more happiness in life
Sex is like 10% of a healthy life man don't sacrifice the other 90% for it
Wise words
Sex is at least 50% of a guys life
Maybe for a 14yo virgin
Pull yourself together man
Sex is at least 90% or a guy's life
Everything is about sex
>hurr durr ackthually I had sex and I got bored
No you didn't, you just got old and bald so hot chicks no longer want you and you're desperately trying to cope
False confidence and fake accomplishments
Emotional disregulation and body dysmorphia
Balls with shrink and body will become dependant on it for life
Only equally mentally ill girls and gays like roider physique
Roidtroony pipeline
Gains disappear weeks after your illegal drugs get stopped by customs
Acne and gyno if you get it wrong
Heart attack if you do too much
The list is endless
Literally all of those get demolished by using small/secure doses for a while and stopping.
You do retain some gains and it's easier to get back what you lost.
Because roiding is no different than slipping a zucchini into your underwear and walking around with it.
It's just fake nonsense that disappears almost as quickly as you stop ingesting the stuff. Plus it doesn't make you stronger and you get a stroke and die in your 30s.
People that roid still have a permanently higher limit off roids, than someone that remained natty their entire life
What is your respinse to this?
> People that roid still have a permanently higher limit off roids
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Not to the same extent but yes it does
>t. What is a negative feed back loop
You biologically illiterate twat, you simply don’t pump your body full of exogenous hormones and expect it say “yeah, I should be producing the same amount or even more of that hormone endogenously.” Once your body starts shutting down testosterone production you have to claw it back like all the other soiboys out there once you stop injecting.
It's called muscle recovery dumbass
You’re an idiot, but for a roidtroony you’re par for the course.
Christ is king you will never change my mind.
My respinse is that you pulled that bro science out of your ass
not bro science, actual science
mind you, its not like the permanent increase of your natty limit is very large or anything, but its there.
roids (all of them, but not to the same extent) effect permanent, persistent changes in your muscles
androgen receptors being upregulated, increased number of cell nuclei, bla bla bla, yadda yadda yadda, boring science stuff
plus you have the adaptations to your nervous system, you'll have muscle memory of a higher muscle mass than your natty limit
so, yea, tldr, roids do increase your natty limit
but ofc all that shit is peanuts compared to the main benefit of roids, namely the fact that you can go to your natty limit, and/or well past it, very quickly.
imagine your dream physique. you can get there MUCH faster if you use roids.
afterwards, if you don't wanna go further than that, and if said dream physique is within your natty limit (or rather you new, post-roid natty limit) you can retain that without taking any more.
>People that roid still have a permanently higher limit off roids
That's horseshit. You're not ever making any progress natural after you stop. The majority of guys only lose muscle after they stop. Your body cannot maintain that much muscle naturally. It has nothing to do with your diet or willpower or your workouts, your hormones simply don't make it possible
Someone off roids will be bigger than someone that completely lifted naturally
They lose the muscle mass almost overnight because they literally cannot maintain them hormonally you fricking moron. Muscles aren’t permanent you fricking moron.
Their limit is still higher than someone that has never touched roids, are you seriously trying to reject that?
Why do zoomers believe this? Just curious. Did some YT influencer tell your or was there an unsourced jpg?
You literally don’t understand how the human body works. You keep using the word “limit” but fail to ever explain what that means in the context of human biology. Once roiders stop injecting they
can no longer cheat using exogenous hormones and now they have fricked up endogenous hormone production, via a negative feed back loop, meaning they actually have worse natural testosterone production relative to natty lifters, meaning they have a worse ability to gain and maintain muscle relative to always natty lifters (hence why so many roiders who try to stop always get back on as they fricked their natural testosterone production). This isn’t new knowledge or anything but I do understand that anything beyond 2+2=4 is hard for roidtrannies to understand so I can’t be too surprised.
>You keep using the word “limit” but fail to ever explain what that means in the context of human biology.
Geez it's like you never read shounen manga!
Yes moron, for a wile, then they look dyel as frick but you dont see those becouse everyone hops on trt when they stop blasting the shit out of every compound on the face of the earth, and the ones that dont do this look so much like shit that you dont know who the frick they are or you would never suspect they took shit
Only apply to people that take large doses
>roid for years
>come off and become a husk of your former self
>forgotten how to train natty
>any effort put in feels worthless when you could just roid again
>innevitably give up lifting to push your natty limit altogether or hop back on
even if we're assuming that muscle somehow maintains itself when the hormonal environment in which it grew is changed, think about the mentality of a roider for one second and it's nonsensical
there's none, natty lifting is a meme
It's not gonna make you attractive or happier, it'll just feed your insecure little b***h ego and make it worse. If your at that point in your life you got other things you need to focus on not steroids.
>i.e more attractive i.e more sex i.e more happiness in life
troony cope
Because you're playing a game of Russian roulette, and you're going to die. You don't know when, but it will happen.
>i.e more attractive i.e more sex i.e more happiness in life
not true unless gay
Go ahead OP. Take all the steroids you want. You won't make it to 19 kid. I can guarantee you that.
Arnold could afford multiple heart surgeries and replacements, you can't.
Even Rich Piana couldn't and he was fairly successful.
anon I am 23 now and did cycles at 18 because I was an insecure teenager who browsed lookism too much. you probably expect me to give you some sage wisdom, but roids WILL GET YOU LAID. when I did roids, I crushed pussy. if I was more confident I probably could have nailed nines. problem is if you have a shit lazy pct, and party and take other drugs like I was, that period of low T after will last for fricking ages. also, as you get older and realise that their is more to life then tricking women into sleeping with you, you will start to se the appeal of roids decrease. sides are real. you are injecting shit into yourself like a smackhead. your gains evaporate afterwards. the roider ‘lifestyle’ invariably means further alcohol and drug use as you party and chase tail (you already crossed the boundary of injecting yourself, whats a bump of coke? whole other can of worms right there) you become impulsive and emotionally unstable (but at the time you wont even realise it)… etc. all stuff that is counter productive to actually getting your shit together for real. getting laid seems like the most important thing in the world, until its not. would I do roids again? im not sure. if I didnt have that phase of larping as a chad, I probably wouldnt have grown beyond that highschool tier bullshit to do the stuff I do now. I can understand your hangups OP.
This is the actual best post here.
T. 25 and did the same. Literally word for word the exact same. The sides end up being not worth it but you'll definitely keep more than you would naturally with training and therefore I feel if you actually have the willpower to get off the horse it's kind of worth it.
I'm sure a few cycles won't ruin your health long term if you aren't moronic and diligent, but most people don't pct, because it's mostly just I'll come off and suffer the sides. Which most people do, but it takes a long time to come back. 7 months or so for me.
women don't generally like roid physique.
they're attracted to bodybuilders because they have clout. but clout is actually worth way more sexually as a man than your physique.
they actually prefer natty, athletic, muscular builds with low fat in general.
Well yes, on one hand, you'll be able to train harder, grow faster, cut harder, look better, and almost definitely will look and feel much better and have more success in your personal life than before you started.
But consider this:
angry natties on IST will call you a roidtroony.
worth it? i think, not.