Why are there so little fit politicians/leaders nowadays?
In ancient times, most leaders would be considerably fit, since it displays power
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In ancient times, most leaders would be considerably fit, since it displays power
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Cause the western world is defined by its decadence, consoomerism, and degeneracy, so it’s no surprise the leaders are perfect representation of that. Bodies left to waste, used for hedonism and covered with an expensive veneer to cover its rotten core
Chuds are such whiny gays I swear to god
>t. enjoys sucking the wieners of world leaders after they sodomize him
>Xi Jinping is ripped and the embodiment of a fit leader
>Kim Jong Un is so shredded you can slice carrots on his abs as he leads his country into the next era
Both of those leaders are shit as well, while there viewpoints on some topics may be agreeable, similar to western leaders, the countries they run are far from shining examples of virtuous government practices, and in many regards are worse than the west.
China and Korea have always been bugmen biomasses
>consoomerism
its always funny to see third worlders that learned english from IST who think the meme spelling for words is how they're actually spelled
Im memeing lad, but I do have to catch myself sometimes I use chans spelling outside of shitposting
>t. newbie
Are you poet mate, wtf.
shut the frick up dumb chud and go live in afghanistan or north korea.
Haha your gay dude
why can't he dress properly?
He's emphasizing that his country is at war
What a clown, who is he fooling?
>I have no time to wewr a suit and shirt on, but I have time to stand around and take photos with other world leader.
Motherfricked has the time to shower, even an office drone has the time get in a suit. This is just a charade, a farce.
cry more ruskies
Are these russians in the room with us right now?
So he can't stop at Goodwill and pick up a Dolce and Gabbana suit for 5$?
You misunderstood. It's an intentional image.
He's dressing like he's in le bootcamp. Has a shitty beard and uses makeup under his eyes to make him look sleep deprived. Look at his hands compared to the other guys, he's literally flexing to make him look "tough like a soldier".
Even though he's at some palace with a bunch of suits, they want you to think he's out on the battleground leading all of the actual children he's thrown into the meat grinder.
Poor widdle Russians losing to the israeli troony government. A bloo bloo bloo. They are so weak. Won't someone help poor widdle russia?
More like poor Ukrainian and Russian youths blowing each other into pieces at the command of their israeli governments.
Yes, it is a tragedy.
Wait, Putin is israeli? Why isn't this being shared on /misc/? They would lose their mind.
You don't go on /misc/ then.
RU vs UA is a theatrical display.
Just like Roe V Wade.
Just like Covid.
Just like Fentanyl Floyd.
Just like Brexit.
And on and on and on.
Was George Floyd really an actor? Links?
Floyd himself did die. He was sacrificed.
His family has many ties to you-know-whos.
The media, corporate, and government response to his sacrifice was coordinated. That's what I'm saying is a show.
it's a display for YOU because you aren't impacted by any of those
>being this brainwashed
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!
none of those things impacted me as well so I know what you mean.
I'm not a 80 year old so I don't need to worry about covid
I'm not in Kiev so I don't need to worry about getting shelled
I don't care about Roe v Wade because I'm a guy
I don't care about Floyd because I don't live in a Black person shithole
I have some magic beans to sell you
i'm not even disagreeing with all your points do you see how unreasonable your position is
You believe the whole show is real. It isn't. None of it is. Covid was planned at decades ago. The early plans go at least as far back as the 50s, and the R&D and patents go at least as far back as the 90s. The "war" between RU and UA? Really? The same people control both countries. Fentanyl Floyd riots weren't planned and executed to treat blacks better in American society. How anyone can believe that shit is insane.
It's all a colorful show for the masses to distract and divide themselves.
Also,
>I don't care about Roe v Wade because I'm a guy
Abortion has as much to do with women as it does men. It's not "her body", it's someone else's. 50% of murdered babies are male, 50% of murdered babies are female.
I know this shit is planned but I still don’t care
stay on track man, I don't care about your theories
what I'm saying is people died of covid, people are dying in ukraine, people died because of floyd riots. YOU were safe at home and didn't have to worry, but there are people who do. capiche?
Ukraine FORCED those poor Russians to invade Ukraine. They didn't want to go. It was Ukraine's fault.
I don't get it, are you even reading the posts you're replying to?
Is this bot malfunctioning?
Lmao, Russia is getting btfo by a troony army led by a fricking israeli manlet, how will they ever recover?
so he's larping as a soldier while not being one, very classy
Literally most commanders since 1600
hes in the middle of the most important war in history excuse him if he can't wear business casual he's busy strategizing the future of the free world
Shut the frick up lmao
nice bait
what a hard job
Go back, you fricking homosexual.
>people can't dress IST during war
get the frick out of here
>inner city urbanite bix nood jargon juxtaposed over a picture of people who would skin them alive give the chance.
>most important war in history
u havin a giggle m8??
lol its a gay baby war between loser nations.
bottom of the barrel moron or actual propogandist
optics are important for public opinion but yeah I find it funny too every time I see him appear with the beard and a fresh fade lol dude was mostly clean shaven before this
Theater kid occupied government
Beating the Russians hard as fux.
They're not. The Ukrainian military is getting demolished piece-by-piece. Which should be a big fricking wakeup call for NATO, considering that the Ukrainian military has been trained by NATO for the last 8 years, is the 2nd largest in Europe after Russia, and NATO whizzbangs cannot inflict enough attrition against 60k shells and rockets a day - which NATO artillery stockpiles cannot currently sustain.
Russia just left Snake Island today.
wasn't Russia originally expected to steamroll the Ukrainian military? I'd imagine there's a reason Putin has fired all those generals.
According to CIA analysts. When have they been right in the last 20 years? If anything, the FIVEYES initial assessment that Ukraine won't last a week is proof that they have no idea what the frick is going on about anything, and haven't for the last decade.
CIA thought they would fall quick. It was the state department analysts that knew Ukraine would do better.
>According to CIA analysts
Was this not the assumption on the part of the Russians as well? It didn't seem like they expected a relatively prolonged conflict considering their supply shortages at the start of the conflict and the fired generals as mentioned previously.
I think they expected a Thunder Run or Desert Storm. However, drones and missiles have put the nail in the coffin of the blitzkrieg that militaries have been training for over the last 80 years or so.
What is impressive is how quickly the Russians adapted to this new way of war, where weight of artillery fire directed by drone swarms and small infantry attacks nibbling on territory carry the day. As it turns out, with modern technology, conventional war between peer powers more resembles WW1 than WW2. I don't think any NATO army can sustain 1-200 KIA and ~1000 casualties a day while expending 60,000 rounds of artillery without logistical or political breakdown. To win a war with Russia -based on the first high intensity peer conflict we've seen in decades- , you're going to need to bring back the draft, bring back manufacturing, and bring back crude chauvinistic nationalism.
Yep, that's exactly what Joe Crowder said on his podcast last week.
Russia can't sustain any significant losses as a nation with declining population and an economy of the size of Italy's
No, you misunderstand. They've transformed their entire social structure to be able to win an active war. And they are doing so. It's going to take at least 4 years to win Ukraine and they learned that super quickly. And they are willing and able to make the sacrifices.
That's not how economic works.
State interference on economy is inherently bad . Russians will suffer a lot from this
*cuts off your natural gas*
*cuts off your coal*
>Cuts of hundreds of wealthy enterprises, letting thousands unemployed
>More economically isolated than ever before
>Population in heavy decline
>Mikitary proven as incompetent and inefficient
>>More economically isolated than ever before
From whom? First world countries whose main exports are fraudulent financial products, not things like ore, gas, and fertilizer. Vast swathes of the world have vested interests in things like not starving.
>Fraudulent products
Cope
No taiwan chips?
This, much of the west’s economy is based off the trade of information/entertainment and not actual physical industry or goods. There are millions of buyers out there for agricultural and power supplies which Russia holds a huge share in. Long term if the west does not change its economic model we will ultimately become the losers due to attrition.
I cannot think of a bigger blunder than pushing the Saudi Arabia of a variety of raw materials into being a satellite of the World's Factory in China. The idea of a Chinese Century, imo, was wishful thinking of the Ten Centers until now.
Western Europe and America have a lot of human capital. But they need to throw away their ideological shackles if they don't want to be quaint theme parks for Chinamen, or freeze in the dark.
China is literally over. They kys themselves due to the one child policy. Their demographic situation is even worse than the west, the Chinese will never be as influential and powerful as the US anytime soon, they lost their possible golden age due to their brainlet commie policies
Communists like you have a really moronic take on economics, seriously.
"Muh basic goods"
Enjoy with low technological development and shitty equiment.
Imagine really thinking like a literal commie. The Soviet Union was a highly agrarian society frienderino, where are they now? Rekt by literal economic attriction..
Cope leftroony
Where do you think TVs and the electricity that powers them comes from? Fairy dust?
>Implying only Russia can produce eletricity.
Where is Soviet Union? It was perfect using your moronic economic takes! It was very agrarian and "basic goods" centered society.
Who needs cars? They are just a capitalist psyop
Unless you are France, you need to burn things to do it. And you were getting a sweetheart deal on them from the Russians.
The Persian Gulf is at capacity. American LNG is several times more expensive than what you were getting from Russian pipelines. Good job, morons.
>Russia isolated from major tech companies, including Taiwanese chip producers and several other industries, euros only lose a market of one hundred million
"That's actually good!!!"
>Europe gets rekt by gas, however, starte buying from other people/maybe even investing in nuclear energy, remembering that the Russians also lose a market of more than 500M
"That's very bad"
>isolated from major tech companies
Many of whom were producing rent-seeking apps like Netflix, Uber from companies that were losing billions of dollars. They have access to Chinese markets; ARM China literally went rogue last year. And these tech companies have a substantial portion of their talent from poaching products of the Russian and Chinese education systems. The Chinese borders have been mostly closed, and isolating Russia makes poaching their guys easier.
The West will have to knuckle down, invest in a productive economy, and actually develop their human capital. This is not an impossible task, but it requires reform and serious thought. Instead of dismissing two high IQ countries with vast quantities of manufacturing capacity and commodities.
I live in Moscow and my standard of living has literally increased since the start of the war, granted I already had a good salary before the war, my expenses have risen about 10% in total (mostly food and some other things, rent is the same) and my salary increases 50%. For foreign goods I plan now to just make a trip to Europe or UAE and go on a shopping vacation. Most people I know here their lives have changed little, but tech workers there is a bit shakeup where some are getting screwed and some like me are making more and more money.
I live in Brazil, and we are first world .....
I believe in every single word of yours, trust me. Why are Russians so submissive to their politicians? Almost wast asian tier of submission
Why do I care? I mean I’m on IST not
/pol/, I don’t really care about politics almost everyone I know who doesn’t live a happy life. I don’t know if it’s connected that being unhappy makes you care about politics or paying attention to politics makes you unhappy, but it seems to me like it’s a cycle. My life is good here, and I don’t see why I should care about politics because some westerners who can’t even speak my language don’t like my country which they have never even been to.
Slavs = Slaves. They are just naturally subservient.
I love my own life and have power over what I can. I don’t have to worry about the flavor of the week political issue or the democrat vs republican thing. We are all slaves to technological industrial society, so don’t try to make your ethnic hatred towards us about something it’s not. If you don’t like us because we are different just say that, don’t try to make up some weird copes.
Like, Russians are weirdly submissive to their politicians. Almost in a Chinese way to be honest
Russians have always been historically cynical of their leaders, and its broadly acknowledged among them that all their state media is garbage
State control of the economic works great for China.
China is actually one of the nations with very free economies
See:
>Great leap forward
Times when China heavily interfered on economy
China's economy is centrally directed by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). They have 5 year plans. They have select "free" economic zones, but those are interfered with and revoked at will.
Yet, has more economic freedom than many countries, including mine (Brazil)
Commies should be hanged, seriously
It doesn't you are quite incorrect and would hate living in an actual communist society like China.
>And they are willing and able to make the sacrifices.
>with birthrates at an all time low and emigration at an all time high we will throw hundreds of thousands of casualties at overtaking a country many times smaller, at the cost of alienating ourselves even further from the developed world and forcing us into an extremely disadvantaged position both militarily and economically
This is hardly a strategy to admire, if that is truly the way they had planned it.
The US has a TFR of 1.7. Western Europe is no better. We're all losing population. But what Russia is, is highly militarized.
The US is quite stable in comparison to Russia.
The US is also highly militarized, and now, europe is also investing heavy in the army due to Putin's πD chess plays.
RIP Russian economy, RIP Russian future
Russia has known struggle its entire history. Westerners are huge pussies that cried when they couldn't watch sports for four months.
Yeah he was a porn actor.
>Every war russia fights
Hundreds of thousands, if not million casualties
Are russians just... moronic?
Who was the last peer competitor that the US got a clean win against? Japan in 1945?
Desert Storm and even Afghanistan.
They conquered every major city very swiftly while Russia hasn't conquered Kiev in 4 months (which is very close to its borders.
The US conducted oversea operarions in very long ranges and showed extremely efficient logistics. However, winning battles is not equal to winning a war.
The US captured Afghanistan's major cities, inflicted around 1 or 2 million casualties on Vietnam, however, attriction led them to leave.
The same can happen pretty much to Russia in Ukraine, where they have shown terrible logistics and military competence against a "troony" army led by a clown
Russia is a meme country
>Iraq and Afghanistan
I said peer.
america has no peer
>Russia has known struggle its entire history
Mostly because theyve been ruled by brutal dictators for much of their history. They are a barbaric Asiatic people.
The US can't hit recruiting goals because zoomers are too fat and drug addicted, and of the 20-30% that would make the cut - only ~10% are even interested. Essentially, the people were have been dumb enough to go die in Iraq and Afghanistan have been so demoralized by this experience that they told their sons not to enlist. This is not an unsolvable problem - go read about the state of the military in the 1970s - but it is a big fricking problem.
And homosexualry, diversity, and overpriced gadgets whose inventory you cannot replace in a year aren't the way you fix it.
Literally just cope from you.
>Zoomers are all fat
Most Russian zoomers are depressed gays, would this justify their incompetence in this war?
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/military/every-branch-us-military-struggling-meet-2022-recruiting-goals-officia-rcna35078
>The pool of those eligible to join the military continues to shrink, with more young men and women than ever disqualified for obesity, drug use or criminal records. Last month, Army Chief of Staff Gen. James McConville testified before Congress that only 23% of Americans ages 17-24 are qualified to serve without a waiver to join, down from 29% in recent years.
>An internal Defense Department survey obtained by NBC News found that only 9% of those young Americans eligible to serve in the military had any inclination to do so, the lowest number since 2007.
The US military has massive structural problems if it wants to win a war with Russia or China, based on the performance of the largest and most heavily armed (non-Russian) military in Europe against it. This isn't unsolvable; there is a lot of wasted human capital in the US; the country is the home of a plurality of Fields Medalists of the last decade, and American subgroups historically outperform their foreign counterparts in cognitive tests like the PISA (USian Asians > native Asians, USian Whites > European Whites, etc). To me, it's sheer hubris to honestly look at the Russian performance against the massive, NATO-trained, high IQ (UA IQ is ~97, US IQ ~98) military, and conclude that things are fine as is - and that sweeping reforms are not needed.
The Chinese for instance, have been buck broken in every modern war they have fought
The US could only manage a draw against starving, outgunned Chinks in Korea. Cope.
The US also lost to Vietnam, so that's about even.
They would have but the US and other countries are extending the bloodshed by constantly providing support with billions of dollars for weapons. I mean Jesus the fricking Ukrainian leader goes on twitter and starts asking for a bunch of rocket launchers.
That's sorta the problem. The Stingers that Ukraine has fired off in the last ~6months will take 3-4 years to replenish (so realistically 5-6). If smart munitions are getting gobbled up at this rate and surge manufacturing is that slow, NATO is not ready for this sort of war.
Who is NATO supposed to go to war with?
The country those stingers were used on?
We've used years worth of MANPADS stocks and it hasn't significantly produced the level of attrition necessary to stop them from winning.
Yeah, it has already woken up NATO.
No wonder they are not more united than ever before, adding Finland and Sweden as allies and foccusing their massive economies on war machines.
NATO would obliterate Russia and mog them in every way, be them trannies or not
>Yeah, it has already woken up NATO.
Good, but NATO will have to implement serious reforms in their industrial capacity and energy policy if they want to be seen as a strong bloc that neutral countries want to be aligned with.
Right now, the Russians are better. This isn't the end of the world; it's happened before - the Red Army of the 1970s was doctrinally and technologically superior to NATO. But it will take a decade to fix.
>Right now, the Russians are better.
By what measure?
By every one. Russia has only lost around 2000 men in Ukraine, despite all of Nato uniting against them. If Nato were to invade Ukraine, they would have had at least 25,000 casualties if not more.
>Russia has only lost around 2000 men in Ukraine
What source is this number based on?
OAN and Newsmaxx
Newsmaxx themselves have claimed the numbers are impossible to verify so I'm not sure you can really use them to definitively give a single number
>Nobody really knows how many combatants or civilians have died, and claims of casualties by government officials — who may sometimes be exaggerating or lowballing their figures for public relations reasons — are all but impossible to verify.
>Russia's last publicly released figures for its own forces came March 25, when a general told state media that 1,351 soldiers had been killed and 3,825 wounded.
>Ukraine and Western observers say the real number is much higher: Zelenskyy said Thursday that more than 30,000 Russian servicemen have died — “more than the Soviet Union lost in 10 years of the war in Afghanistan”; in late April, the British government estimated Russian losses at 15,000.
>Speaking on condition of anonymity Wednesday to discuss intelligence matters, a Western official said Russia is “still taking casualties, but ... in smaller numbers.” The official estimated that some 40,000 Russian troops have been wounded.
>In Moscow-backed separatist enclaves in eastern Ukraine, authorities have reported over 1,300 fighters lost and nearly 7,500 wounded in the Donetsk region, along with 477 dead civilians and nearly 2,400 wounded; plus 29 civilians killed and 60 wounded in Luhansk.
https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/russia-ukraine-war-100-days/2022/06/03/id/1072751/
OAN has similarly not been providing a definitive number
>Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said on Thursday that Russia had sustained “significant losses” in Ukraine, which its troops entered on Feb. 24 in what it calls a “special military operation”.
>Russia’s defence ministry said on March 25, its most recent update, that 1,351 Russian soldiers had been killed since the start of the campaign, and 3,825 had been wounded.
>German Chancellor Olaf Scholz said two days later that at least 10,000 Russian soldiers had probably been kill
I saw it on tv not in an article or website.
>I saw it on tv not in an article or website.
Ur the one disagreeing with the only non-israeli news. Russia Today is also good and they list 2000. AT least I gave a source. Typically israeli shill criticizing with no info.
>disagreeing
I'm posting word for word exactly what your own sources are claiming.
nooooooooo ur israeli stfu
russia already wasted pretty much all of their modern long-range weapons and achieved pretty much nothing. now they're using shit like some ancient ship-targering missilies, which may be still useful if you were trying to take out ships but not so much when they hit shopping centers full of civilists because they only rudimentary aim at the biggest targets when they arrive in the area.
True. Russia has proven they're the best army in Europe. They have already conquered Ukraine in just 6 months with almost no casualties. Before that, they put troops on the ground secretly and won in Syria despite Obama's 100,000 US troops there.
Hes a theater kid, he's playing a role(the one where he's too busy to dress in a suit or shave despite seemingly having a new fresh haircut every 2 weeks and a nicely trimmed beard)
yeah he's larping, but suits are a thing of the fricking past. nobody need this shit anymore.
>suits are a thing of the fricking past. nobody need this shit anymore.
t. wears cargo shorts and tap-out tees
It's all a theater act
Because it would be disrespectful and goofy of him to comfily wear and rest in a suit while his country is dying daily, how low IQ are you?
>hurr durr millions of my people r getting killed, at least I can wear a suit and look like I don't give a single shit
Brainlet
>he fell for Zelensky's larp outfit
Im pretty sure a green t shirt is a lot more comfortable than a suit m9
t. in the military, uniform are PJs
100% guaranteed he thinks he looks cool.
"Did you see me? b***hes are gonna think I'm swole."
Putin does the same, the difference is that Putin has gyno b***h tidies
Difference is putin has actually killed people and is still a decent fighter. Zelensky is a larping gay.
Because he is le ebin peoples war guy
>i fight with u guys look I wear camouflage :DDD
>nowadays
>In ancient times, most leaders would be considerably fit
actually not true, most leaders were fairly out of shape compared to military men or the general population
however they made artists depict them as being strong, tall and muscular in the paintings and sculptures that they had made of them
This israeli midget always being in a t-shirt and cargo shorts really rubs me the wrong way.
>Why are there so little fit politicians/leaders nowadays?
because they don't need to be fit, that and a lot of them are old so they're not exercising anyway
>In ancient times, most leaders would be considerably fit, since it displays power
not really
zelensky is the only manlet i respect
>zelensky is the only manlet i respect
respecting a manlet is a beta male trait
That's why I don't respect Putin
I heard that Russia is leaving Snake Island as a goodwill gesture towards the israeli troony state of Ukraine.
Y can't I handle all this winning Russia bros?
who's the manlet you circled?
I don't know any of those people
Many are not fatsos. Actually, I'd say most world leaders are just standard old people builds. Unironically, Justin Trudeau is more IST than the average. There was also that ex-President of Mongolia who was IST and Finland's PM is a QT.
Trudeau takes his daily vitamin D suplement
his brother should have been PM
what is this body type called?
Resigned
>anons arguing in this thread over RU v UA
>starkly divided
>strongly supporting "their side"
This is exactly what they want, morons.
fricking manlet c**t
Does anyone else remember the low effort propaganda coming out of Ukraine like the Ghost of Kiev or "Russian warship, go frick yourself"?
Doesn't surprise me people ate it up and memory holed it just like the Wuhan Flu.
Why are European politicians so short?
No they wouldn’t. Politicians are always fat and old from the resources they steal from the people they “govern”. If you see a jacked or even thin/pretty politician you know they are an actor/actress and a puppet for the masses to blindly follow. The more fat and slovenly the more power they actually wield.
Stolen valour, Zelensky has never served
IST consistently proves itself to be the lowest IQ board on this website
Have you been to /gif/?
Lol his dong is marking on his sweatpants
Did you encircle a manlet to make a point? Fricking kek!
Yes, how could you fricking find the manlet? moron.
Meds now, schizo
This thread is kind of off topic which is against the rules, guys.
Macron looks clean and mogs the manlet
>The black worshipper
At least he calls Biden out for the senile coward he is. Him and his son made enough money from plundering the Ukraine energy industry so the least they could do is give something back.
he mogs.
>Why are there so little fit politicians/leaders nowadays?
leaders have to do a lot of meetings and reading, i doubt they have any free time for their personal lives, really, imagine leading a nation, when could you turn it of?
too busy to work out unlike ukrainian clown
>Implying physical fitness doesn't affect mental and cognitive status
No wonder why Putin is acting as a moron
my post doesn't imply that
SURELY a man in his position must own a suit or at least a different pair of clothes right???Is he seriously trying to convince the world he is so knee deep in war he doesn't have 10 minutes to change into formal clothes??
He is an actor. He is playing a role
>In ancient times, most leaders would be considerably fit, since it displays power
How "ancient" are we talking here? I guess if you go far enough back that defeating a rival in single combat was a determining factor in leading then maybe. Leaders tend to be larger on average but being tall with a wide bone structure is not determined by exercise.
Dude looks like an actor because he is one