Why are these so fucking hard man

Why are these so fucking hard man

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    leverage

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      that, and comparatively speaking the deltoids are small muscles, they're not made to move a ton, mostly just stabilize

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because your hand is rotated inwards

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You're not supposed to go to 90° degrees. Also go lighter on the weight on them

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Also go lighter on the weight on them

      I'll fix that then, thanks.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how many degrees then? I try to go 180 if the weight is low

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thats too much. Do them in the scapular plane, which is around 150 degrees IIRC.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because you're ego lifting

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      So I should focus more on reps than putting more weight?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        1x20 then 3x failure and you'll get pumped. Do them real slow.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Ok thanks.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. Do whatever weight allows you to get a full range of motion. To grow your side delts you want to do at least 6 sets of at least 12 reps per week.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Didn't envision himself as a bird
    most common reason actually

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not an often used motion. How many times in your life have you really performed this lift on a practical level?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When flapping as a bird. Squawk!

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Right. Seems I've been forgetting my morning routine.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Best one episode character is House MD history

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I only do 7 or 8kg in these. I am 6f6".

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I'm 5'7 and I don't go higher than 8kg

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah I'm 5'7 and I don't go higher than 8kg

      5'10 masterrace doing 4x12 with 22.5lb/10.2 kg

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Back to the manlet pit

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Try me, bitch

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I was doing 9kg, that was the problem.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      6'5 skelly i do 3x12 with 10kg and bench 50kg 8x

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I’m 6’6” and do lateral raises with Warwick Davis and his son.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm 6'5 and do 15 kg for 4 sets of 20

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I do 10 kg for 3x15 with completely straight arms and iam 6'3... Sucks that after 10 next ones are 12 kg thats too big of a jump for this excercise

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Work your way up to 3x20 and then make the weight jump.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yea youre right i probably will 15 reps are relatively comfortable at this point

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I do 3x30 with 10kg and I still have shit delts

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        also I am 6'4

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'm 6'3 and I do 10kg with cables.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Do these actually develop noticeable serratus?

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The further the dumbbells get from you, the difficult it will be to carry them, its simple physics

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I see some jacked gym bros who sit or lie down on their stomachs to do these and I’m going to try it next time I go gym. Is there any benefit to this? At least seated seems like you could do more weight. Anyone found that?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      while seated you won't be able to cheat by leaning back and turning it into a front delt exercise

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    AND THIS BIRD YOU CANNOT CHANGE
    LORD KNOWS I CAN'T CHANGE

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I do 2x10-20. Currently at 14kg. The key is to rest a couple of seconds and take deep breaths to push beyond failure

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This form is very wrong

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      how to do this exercise properly?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        by lying on a incline bench on ur belly and doing it

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Keep your thumbs on the same side of the handle as the other fingers (like suicide grip) and keep the angle so that the thumb is higher than the other fingers, so basically opposite of op pic. Otherwise it's more or less fine. What the other guy said is probably fine if you're keen on hitting the rear.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Use less weight.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >can do these with 25lbs
    >still have DYEL shoulders

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      cos they're shit and u prob suck at doing them cos they're not noob friendly

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Try OHP

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        OHP wrecks my lower back

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Lower weight, brace glutes and abs, push head forward so it's right under bar once you clear your forehead

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Your abs are weak.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Start with 3-5kg and rep out volume till you feel a good burn increase once you have to rep out 40-50.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    my shoulders balooned when i started doing these

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      RIP John

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gonna give these a shot next shoulder and leg day. Thanks anon.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    How about holding dumbbells out in front as if doing hammer curls then lifting your arms lateral.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no thats the dumbest shit ever and u should feel bad uve wasted ur time if u do that

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Didn't Jefff Calaviere told to do it like this? Also bend forward. Or is he a fraud who knows nothing?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          ur talking like the chicken wing right? ur cutting off the leverage dont do that

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          You should always do the opposite of whatever Jeff Cavaliere says

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm 5'5.75" and i do 5x5 with 20 kg

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Damn. I thought I was doing these with light weight but reading this thread it makes sense. I've been going to the gym for 3 weeks and usually I superset these for 3x12-15 with tricep pushdown and overhead tricep extension. Can't really do it with more than 6kg.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    is it useful or does it produce the same effect if I do this exercise with one arm at a time?

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you can do seated version if you don't want to cheat so hard, just make sure do lower the weight before you sit on the bench cuz this one is harder

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    one of the worst shoulder fucker upper exercises. if you do them look up some good shoulder mobility, internal vs external rotation, and rotator cuff videos on youtube.

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