Why do Normies struggle so much losing weight?

I've seen dozens of fatsos trying to lose weight for LITERAL YEARS, trying all sorts of different diets, but almost NEVER succeeding at the end

Why are they like this?
What are most of them doing wrong?

  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They eat food advertised as healthy instead of actually healthy cheap whole foods

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >normie
      >eats 1 healthy meal today
      >wow im healthy

      >IST gymcel
      >eats 50cal over/under their goal
      >its over

      Based

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >They eat food advertised as healthy
      Fucking this

      Normies think shit like pic rel is healthy and will help them lose weight, yet when you combine the fact they equate that to "I can eat as much as I want of it" and the fact it's actually dense in calories

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's just fucking nuts bro, what's so unhealthy about them?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Am I missing something? That actually doesn't look too bad. It's just seeds and nuts.

          What you're missing is normies think you can eat infinity "healthy food" and still lose weight. They'll eat the whole bag in one sitting, over a thousand calories, and claim they're dieting.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Am I missing something? That actually doesn't look too bad. It's just seeds and nuts.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based

      Normies just do what's shilled to them and what others around them do.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cause everyone thinks they are special or their is some secret when all that is needed is some discipline and effort

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      retarded as fuck take.
      most thin people do not make an effort or have discipline.
      never once in my life was "losing weight" something I would even think about.
      I eat w/e the fuck I want and stay thin.
      man I must be having some top notch discipline!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >man I must be having some top notch discipline!
        How did you receive such gift anon?Any tips?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >You just eat till you are content.
        no. I eat until it hurts. unironically.
        [...]
        >How did you receive such gift anon? Any tips?
        how is anyone supposed to give tips about something that happens unconsciously. I don't do anything else than what my body tells me to.
        eat when I'm hungry. eat what my body is craving.
        thats exactly the point I was trying to make.
        for most thin people staying thin isn't a conscious decision that you should congratulate them for.
        if I knew what the reason is why one body knows exactly when to quit, but another doesn't I'd be loaded and wouldn't spend my time chatting on this autistic board..

        >losing weight == maintaining a healthy weight
        retard

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you do need discipline to lose weight. maintaining a low weight is way easier and doesn't require as much conscious effort.

        funny how you say you've always been skinny and still feel you have the authority to comment on what it takes to lose weight, something you say you've never even thought about.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they dont browse IST and therefore do not have the extremely body dysmorphia us gymrats do.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >normie
    >eats 1 healthy meal today
    >wow im healthy

    >IST gymcel
    >eats 50cal over/under their goal
    >its over

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Yup, basically how it goes and not an exaggeration at all.
      For people not inside the normie mind this is how it goes
      >Breakfast? I have to get to work / take a shower / watch my TV, I don't have time for a healthy meal I'll just eat cereal or pancakes or something
      >Lunch? I'm on the go, fast food or instant meal time!
      >Dinner? Today I'll make one since I ate out yesterday. This will square me up for the day and now I can tell my co-workers I'm healthy!
      Just ask the average person what they eat for breakfast, it will shock you. They literally just eat sugar and flour, can't find an egg-eater or yogurt eater anywhere except for women who eat the sweetened yogurt and down it with starbucks onions latte.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >starbucks onions latte
        I chuckled

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Any other bone broth consumers here?
        >comes in a carton just pour into bowl
        >18g protein / 45 cal
        >takes like 2 minutes to heat in the microwave
        literally life changing

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          wait i fucked that up it's 18g/90cal
          still

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Sounds like a good idea but keep some leftover cooked meat and vegetable or just take an egg and throw it in for instant soup EZ

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >eat chicken drumsticks
          >throw bones in pot of boiling water
          >mostly boil down, toss in blender
          >drink bones

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/NbX83AZ.jpg

        >starbucks onions latte
        I chuckled

        Did you both write onions or you meant onions?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I meant onions when I rote it, retard

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Mmh, so like onions like the plants

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              No, onions like the animal

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Makes onionsnse

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          SØY

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >be cheap
        >rather starved then buy nufoods
        >accidently lost weight when I move out
        Thank Christ Im a garden gnome, my genetic inclinaltion to save money helped me escape this trap

        Kek
        >you count calories? Omg, you have a eating disorder!

        I fucking hate counting calories. Its like unfun autism
        >hmm yes by my calculation this should be 1488 calories with 42.0grams of protein
        I just GOMD. It's not that plus its good for time: don't have to cook nor get groceries for three meals a day

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am perpetually shocked by how "busy" single people without children, hobbies, or a business seem to be; perpetually in a rush to loaf. I have 15 hours of obligations to fulfill in a day and I still have 2 hours in a day to exercise or just breathe.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Can confirm, I work 8h, commute 3 hours, and hit the gym for 2 hours six times a week.
          I still have 2 hours or so to just chill a bit
          The problem is having the fucking energy to do anything productive like cooking for the next day or cleaning shit
          It's tough

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        normies can't be bothered to do anything more than than the bare minimum, and they can't even be bothered to do that half the time. blame 12+ years of "education" where the only benefit of trying harder was a different letter on a piece of paper at the end of the year. normies can't be bothered to put extra effort into counting and tracking calories, macros, staying in their kcal allowance, etc. you can lecture them all day about the dangers of obesity, deep in their mind they'll always think weight is just a number.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >The only benefit to trying harder was an extra letter
          They actually had negative benefits, I was told that advanced courses would mean more work and homework, when asked what I gained from this they had no real answer.
          If you do well in school the only advantage is getting moved from a room of retards into a room of semi-intelligent people instead, for this privilege you get MORE work. If you work hard you get more work, if you work less they lower their expectations and don't care, so therefore why work?
          If I could go back in time I'd take the advanced classes now just for the challenge but the public goy system really seems to make it so you never want to work hard or put in effort.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >hanging with normie friends I since cut off for taking this crap to the extreme (selfish and throwing actual temper tantrums as late 20s adults)
      >one day while hanging with these retards they begin talking about health and fitness
      >this group is comprised of 2 5’3” people, both easily around 200lbs of round obesity, and one 5’9” girl who looks like she’s 300 minimum
      >Red meat is so bad for you
      >yeah it’s horrible we eat a ton of fish
      >I’m like, like I know I’m big, but I’m super healthy actually I *sips 3000 calorie Starbucks drink* don’t ever eat red meat I had a salad for lunch today
      >yeah red meat is what’s causing cancer *inhales cigarette*
      I sat there completely boggled genuinely questioning if I was having a fever dream or not

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're too undisciplined to count calories. Then they cope by making it seem like they're some kinda unfortunate special case of body type that defies the second law of thermodynamics

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/e0NfE5e.jpg

      This fat fuck has been trying to lose weight for how many years? 10?

      He could have lost all his weight like 5 times during that period of time if he was disciplined

      Losing weight requires hunger or physical pain. Pain sucks so people would rather avoid pain by eating. Gaining weight is easy just eat until you're full it's pleasurable. Pain is not pleasurable and therefore people with low will power to lose weight will not lose weight. Imagine you had to slam your dick in a drawer every night for 4 years in order to make it grow 3 inches and you had to keep slamming your dick in a drawer to keep your gains. Would you slam your dick in a drawer every night? No you probably wouldn't. That's what losing weight is like. It's hunger pains, it's fatigue from hunger, it's anger, it's sadness, it's awful. And it's the only way to lose weight. The fatter you are the more likely you are to be fat forever. Most people don't have what it takes to endure, to suffer long term to fit an aesthetic. They lie to themselves weight isn't everything, it doesn't matter if I'm fat as long as I'm happy.

      >And also the food is posion and our hormones are being blocked so Testosterone is lower than it should be while estrogen is higher than it should be. Estrogen makes you fat and happy. Testosterone makes you ripped and angry

      Lack of willpower. I know a lot of boomers from my work and most are overweight with the same list of excuses.
      >Need to call my doctor about this new medication
      >My thyroid has been acting up
      >Life is for living, anyway
      >The crazy thing is, I don't even eat that much
      >Maybe it has something to do with the diabetes
      I used to try to help, but deep down they don't want it hard enough. They're ok with being fat, or at least more ok with it than they would be with getting thin.

      They are too retarded to understand simple thermodynamics of energy in = energy out, and to lazy to quantify this which is the most important factor.
      They get rekt over and over by media which advertises things as "healthy". My favourite is seeing a fat girl buying almonds and cashew nuts because it's a "healthy" snack. Yes it absolutely is a healthy food, it also has insane caloric density and is one of the best bulking foods lmao.
      They think long duration cardio along with shit macros is a great way to lose weight. And it is, to get better cardio and become skinny fat. So they do their retarded diet with lots of cardio, make their body composition even worse, then rebound once they start eating "normal" again.

      The hormonal thing is real. Your hormones deeply tells you things like "eat more" and "stop eating". And you get them from your mom.

      Fat women curse with an awful fatass life to their miserable children.
      It's not a coincidence that most fatasses have a fat ass mom.

      Hate or feel disgusted by fat people? Go hug your skinny/ former skinny mother and try to be less of a shit.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >get hormone signal
        >simply elect to ignore them
        It's that easy.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >And you get them from your mom.
        I kind of doubt this. I'm one of those "eats completely dog shit fast food and junk food 24/7 and is still somehow thin" kinda guys Yet was somehow still under weight for a while. My mom isn't so lucky. She has to watch What she eats constantly yet still struggles to lose weight. She's joking Lee says that I should borrow some of her fat every now and then. Now to be fair to myself, I'm very active, Try to work out whenever I can, and do a shit load of cardio, But I was still thin even before I did this. Becoming more active actually resulted in me gaining weight but not enough for it to be visibility noticeable. What gives?

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This fat fuck has been trying to lose weight for how many years? 10?

    He could have lost all his weight like 5 times during that period of time if he was disciplined

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >10

      try his entire life.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He has cancer now. I hope he does so people will stop talking about him.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      He is disabled. So disabled, in fact, his ability to invoke self discipline is gone. He is forced to stuff his fat face and spend all his money until he is broke.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the worst part is he had a gastric bypass done and still couldnt stop him from eating like a pig

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        gastric bypass is up there with circumcision, umbilical clamping, c sections, abortions, vaccinations and appendectomies in worthless shit doctors do

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I work in medical research and have had to watch multiple presentations about it, apparently there are a whole bunch of ways they chop of the guts and stitch them back together and they don't even know why any particular way is better, bariatric surgery more like barbaric surgery
          they should just mercy kill while they're under

  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Too afraid to defy social norms to count calories (it’s seen as weird amongst normies)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Kek
      >you count calories? Omg, you have a eating disorder!

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This. My 5’0 165lb ex was shocked what 1200 calories a day looked like when she tried to cut lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >1200 calories a day looked like when she tried to cut
        I tried out that diet for a month after watching 600lb life. It was surprisingly easy so I dont get why people act like its a torture.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I never count calories and I find weight loss easy

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they eat way too much because they dont understand calories/mindlessly snack on shit out of boredom

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Theyre surrounded by other fats.
    No accountability, no inspo, no community.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Losing weight is pretty easy, it's tedious but pretty simple. Maintaining the weight loss is actually harder because now you have to balance eating too much vs eating too little, and once you get fat once your appetite hormones are fucked so you can't use that as a guide. So I'm guessing most fatties know that it won't be sustainable long term and give up.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I disagree.

      I use to be able to eat 2 Cathead Chicken Egg and Cheese Biscuits at 290. I dropped to 225 and went to Cracker Barrel with a coworker after four months of eating clean. Ate two biscuits and a cup of broccoli (400cals) and i was already stuffed. You just have to do a hard reset.

      Most fats just either don’t have the willpower or don’t know how to do it.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        how do i do a hard reset

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Losing weight requires hunger or physical pain. Pain sucks so people would rather avoid pain by eating. Gaining weight is easy just eat until you're full it's pleasurable. Pain is not pleasurable and therefore people with low will power to lose weight will not lose weight. Imagine you had to slam your dick in a drawer every night for 4 years in order to make it grow 3 inches and you had to keep slamming your dick in a drawer to keep your gains. Would you slam your dick in a drawer every night? No you probably wouldn't. That's what losing weight is like. It's hunger pains, it's fatigue from hunger, it's anger, it's sadness, it's awful. And it's the only way to lose weight. The fatter you are the more likely you are to be fat forever. Most people don't have what it takes to endure, to suffer long term to fit an aesthetic. They lie to themselves weight isn't everything, it doesn't matter if I'm fat as long as I'm happy.

    >And also the food is posion and our hormones are being blocked so Testosterone is lower than it should be while estrogen is higher than it should be. Estrogen makes you fat and happy. Testosterone makes you ripped and angry

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Give me that drawer, now

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I like you

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Imagine you had to slam your dick in a drawer every night for 4 years in order to make it grow 3 inches and you had to keep slamming your dick in a drawer to keep your gains. Would you slam your dick in a drawer every night? No you probably wouldn't.
      I've been restoring my foreskin for over four years. It's closer to this, unironically, than you realize.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There's a cheat code called fasting. Just don't eat for a few days, switch to OMAD and you'll never feel hunger gain.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fasting doesn't work. If you skip a day of eating you just feel even more hungry the next day. Eventually after two or three days you break and end up eating more than you would have eaten normally during that time. Slow, consistent caloric deficit is better than extreme memes.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Wrong. I lost 70 pounds exclusively through fasting. Then I ate whatever for like 3 months straight. No counting calories or anything. You know how much weight I gained back? Like half a pound. Your stomach shrinks and you lose your appetite. I'd have to willingly and actively put in effort to gain a signifgant amount of weight back

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I'm the guy you replied to.
          >Eventually after two or three days you break and end up eating more
          I didn't and I'm offended by your accusation. Stop being a fatty.
          t. did rolling 72s in August, reached target weight

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >Eventually after two or three days you break and end up eating more than you would have eaten normally during that time.
          True if youre a fat fuck with zero discipline and willpower

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, not me though.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          as a fatty doing OMAD, fuck you. i went from 335lb to 250 doing it. you get used to the hunger after a week, and its not until i cheat and eat more than once a day that i feel really hungry the next day

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Losing weight requires hunger or physical pain
      This tbh. The first time I fasted I couldn't believe how sick that made me feel, I was angry, inpatient, couldn't care about anything. All the consecutive fasts went easier and easier. I can last 2 days without food on just plain black coffee and cigs and feel just fine.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        genuine question how is your skin?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's not like someone in his early 20s would have (I'm 30) but it's much better cause during the last several months I completely eliminated goyslop from my diet and stopped drinking on weekdays (a big one for me personally). There's no bumps on my forehead anymore, face isn't dry even though the winter's approaching.
          The only cosmetics I use is a cream made of natural wax for the cold windy days.
          I do have dots on my nose (big pores) and circles under the eyes but I'm not sure what can be done about it.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      comparing hunger to slamming your dick in a drawer is a bit much

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd slam my cock and still gonna enjoy it

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Simply not true. Any fatty will tell you that hunger is easy to deal with.
      What's hard to deal with is the chemical addiction to certain foods and the cravings that come with that. It's not physical at all.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        There is no separation between physical and mental, this includes addiction. The chemical reactions in your gut microbiome and the resulting signals through your nervous system and brain are all the same process. You need a true diet reset starting with a fast coupled with nothing but whole foods and MOST IMPORTANTLY no added sugar for at least a month. Pomegranate is currently an in season treat and is great at limiting sugar intake while assisting in a gut microbiome reset, just don't eat more than 2-3 per day.

        This is every fatty's cure. You can either embrace and implement this information or you can ignore it, but it's reality without any profit driven motive thrown in to mislead you. This is the way.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That's not even close to being true.
          Hunger pains are easy to ignore and feel good after a while. Craving is completely different and has nothing to do with whatever the fuck you think you're talking about.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Every thought, feeling, or experience you've ever had in your pathetic life has been a chemical reaction and the resulting electrical signals moving through neurons. There is no thinker of thoughts, that's just another thought. There is no feeler of feelings, that's just another feeling. These are grammatical concepts that have no basis in reality. You confuse your interpretation of reality with reality itself. You are starving on eating menus.

            You're a fucking retard

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            You are hopelessly lost. You are the one without a clue.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >just eat until you're full it's pleasurable
      I eat until I almost throw up every meal and I don't gain weight.
      fuck off you retard.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Im betting you have never thrown Up for eating too much food.
        When I was fat I did,the most brutal one was when after a huge buffet I when I arrived home I ate a pint of Ben and Jerries cookie dough ice cream
        Most putrid puke ever ,and I just kept puking holy shit.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I didnt have a brain fart writing this btw I just deleted and edited part of the post and fucked Up lol

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        keep going and eventually you get used to it.
        That's how I got fat as a kid, and can go from lean to fat.
        Just a different type of suffering when compared to being hungry.

        retarded as fuck take.
        most thin people do not make an effort or have discipline.
        never once in my life was "losing weight" something I would even think about.
        I eat w/e the fuck I want and stay thin.
        man I must be having some top notch discipline!

        You just eat till you are content. When I was lean that's what I did. Ate a solid 1/4 what I ate before.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You just eat till you are content.
          no. I eat until it hurts. unironically.

          >man I must be having some top notch discipline!
          How did you receive such gift anon?Any tips?

          >How did you receive such gift anon? Any tips?
          how is anyone supposed to give tips about something that happens unconsciously. I don't do anything else than what my body tells me to.
          eat when I'm hungry. eat what my body is craving.
          thats exactly the point I was trying to make.
          for most thin people staying thin isn't a conscious decision that you should congratulate them for.
          if I knew what the reason is why one body knows exactly when to quit, but another doesn't I'd be loaded and wouldn't spend my time chatting on this autistic board..

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Gaining weight is easy
      You have never bulked

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Gaining weight is literally the easiest thing, that's why everyone is obese not underweight. Just eat fucking fatty meats and cheese and avocados.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Too true.
      I have trouble managing my weight. It's a stable 210, but I would really like to be at 180. My cope is constant strength training and cardio. I'm at .75/2/2.5/3.5 so I know i'm already stronger then most but I wish I had the dedication to lose weight and be aesthetic.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      i would rather slam my dick in a drawer than be hungry and lightheaded all day. fuck cutting
      >t. cutting

  12. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    If not cheating it's likely too much carbs and/or calorie deficit too high lowering metabolism and they'll gain back weight when they can't keep to their shit diet.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nobody in the concentration camps was fat. Eat less fatty

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Not true. Even in the propaganda videos of the camps, meant to show how terribly those garden gnomes suffered, many looked overweight.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Let's see some of these fat garden gnomes.

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The sales department where I work is entirely staffed by obese women. The stench of rotting food in their trash is unbearable when you walk in because the office is a closed area without much ventilation.
    They are ALWAYS snacking on cookies and chips when I go in there, any time of day.
    Each desk has a mini fridge stocked with soda.
    Every new hire but one I’ve seen in the past 2 years has been an obese woman. And when their manager quit they got a normal weight woman who lasted 2 days before she left crying for some reason.
    I think the crabs in a bucket mentality is a big part of it. If they were all fit and one new fat girl came in she’d probably end up fit by the end of the year too.
    I’m atheist but the whole “as iron sharpens iron” thing is pretty true

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I work in a call center. The pay is pretty good so people stick around it's not like one of those sweatshops that pay less than McDonalds

      It is mostly women, no surprise, I'd say it's 70% women, 30% men. Of these women, about 80% are overweight, and 65% are obese.

      In contrast for the men, maybe 25% are obese/overweight, and the rest are skinnyfat or just skinny in general.

      Fat women in offices most certainly bring each other down with their HAES mentality and fatty sabotage(bringing free pizza or donuts for everyone). It wasn't until covid happened and they weren't all in the same room together that 2 of them I know started to lose weight, one of them lost like 65+ pounds and looks like a high schooler again despite being 35. She's actually a MILF now.

      But yeah, offices are breeding grounds for women to become obese. If your girlfriend ever gets an office job, warn her of these things. Mandate a gym membership or something.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That 19yo would be a perfect looksmatch for the 22yo who took too many steroids.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >>If your girlfriend ever gets an office job, warn her of these things. Mandate a gym membership or something.
        You're a fucking psycho.

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't really want to. Weight loss really is that simple
    i.e (Eat less shit ((GSLOP)), eat more protein, and move more). However, what I have discovered as part of my weight-loss journey is...
    YOU HAVE TO WANT IT.
    Simple as. You need to want to change, it's the same as anything else in life. If you want it, go get it. Fats who whine and complain that they cant do it are just copeMAXXING.

    > t. ex fat fuck

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why does that guy look like louis rossman if he was black?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      why does that guy look like louis rossman if he was black?

      Holy shit

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Lack of willpower. I know a lot of boomers from my work and most are overweight with the same list of excuses.
    >Need to call my doctor about this new medication
    >My thyroid has been acting up
    >Life is for living, anyway
    >The crazy thing is, I don't even eat that much
    >Maybe it has something to do with the diabetes
    I used to try to help, but deep down they don't want it hard enough. They're ok with being fat, or at least more ok with it than they would be with getting thin.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't even eat that much
      My dad is like that. He eats a pack of jaffa cakes after dinner thinking its harmless. The box looks small but theres 700 calories in that thing.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    cognitive dissonance. their egos cloud their inner self that hates being a fat retard. until they experience enough suffering that their ego dissolves they will never hate themselves enough to actually change and lose the weight.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is actually the truth. Most people lack of self awareness and are too afraid of criticism / failure to look inward and realize what they need to fix vs not. Instead they tear others down or just cope and make excuses.

      When you develop complete accountability you will be able to make meaningful life changes, but only then. Far easier to blame someone else for your problems than own that you yourself is to blame.

  17. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    As one of the few % who has lost a lot of weight and kept it off,basically it feels bad.
    Cant explain it,I didnt get sick or anything but I felt a compulsion to eat when I was dieting ,I almost felt depressed like life was shit only because I wasnt eating when my brain was telling me to.
    Now that doesnt happen to the degree it did but some days it kinda does,there is a fat switch or something in the brain of some people I think.
    >tldr:food makes you feel good,no food = no good.

  18. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I had difficulty losing weight this cut season because I have a gf and if I don’t eat above maintainence I get short tempered, spacey and low energy.
    Maintaining social situations when you just want to kill people or be left alone isn’t easy.

    Basically cutting makes me neurotic and on edge which hurts my relationships

  19. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I struggle GAINING weight

  20. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are too retarded to understand simple thermodynamics of energy in = energy out, and to lazy to quantify this which is the most important factor.
    They get rekt over and over by media which advertises things as "healthy". My favourite is seeing a fat girl buying almonds and cashew nuts because it's a "healthy" snack. Yes it absolutely is a healthy food, it also has insane caloric density and is one of the best bulking foods lmao.
    They think long duration cardio along with shit macros is a great way to lose weight. And it is, to get better cardio and become skinny fat. So they do their retarded diet with lots of cardio, make their body composition even worse, then rebound once they start eating "normal" again.

  21. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They’re dumb

  22. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1. Some medical conditions indeed make losing weight diffcult or impossible (hypothyroidism, lipedema)
    2. Most people do keto, which doesn't work
    3. People who are healthy and do normal diets also lose weight normally

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Some medical conditions indeed make losing weight diffcult or impossible (hypothyroidism, lipedema)
      Thats bullshit. I have hypothyroidism and I have no weight issues. I am skinnyfat but have no problem keeping my bmi at 21.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      the only reason people have those conditions is because theyve been fat goysloppers for so fucking long that their organs have deformed. i guarantee those conditions could be reversed under proper conditions. suuuper crazy how no other wild animal has all these issues innit? m8ey?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >suuuper crazy how no other wild animal has all these issues innit?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Not him but that's clearly a tiger in captivity. Who the fuck know what they're feeding it and it doesn't have any reason to hunt. Could be a neutered male as well but I couldn't make that call

  23. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    People fail because they are used to getting instant gratification and when they need to lose 20 pounds that just doesn't happen fast enough. On the other hand they start feeling hungry as shit very quickly. If they try to get used to the hunger and the new diet that pain goes eventually goes away, but it's not instant. To make that hunger go away instantly they just stuff their faces with whatever goyslop they are craving which is what made them fat to begin with.
    Some people, especially sheboons, have little to no ability to plan for the future under any circumstances so it's no wonder they tend to be so fat.

  24. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I am not sure if this will help you understand the why but I have struggled with weight loss for years and this is how it has been for me.
    >Starting at 110kg
    That was when I was 18 years old.
    >110kg to 80kg
    That was a 1 year stretch of time where I worked as a bartender/waiter and was constantly moving with basically no time to eat. It was not a conscious decision to lose weight, which took me to the next one:
    >80kg to 100kg
    I went to university and during 3 years I did not exercise at all and slowly gained the weight back
    >100kg to 90kg to 100kg
    During two years I tried many things to lose weight. I lifted, I tried meme diets like keto and paleo, I did cardio, etc. It worked but because of the nature of the meme diets every time I stopped I gained back all the weight I had lost.
    >100kg to 105kg
    Lockdowns and zero exercise
    >105kg to 100kg
    I started lifting again and started tracking calories religiously. It was going down but I was constantly hungry and the weight was going down very slowly. Also I felt like absolute shit all the time.
    >100kg to 93kg
    Here I am now. With this part people might disagree with my approach and I am yet to see if I will gain the weight back once I go back to the gym, but what I am doing right now is not doing any physical exercise and making my portions as small as I can without feeling hungry. Basically the "eat like a thin person" approach. I tried doing it while lifting but my hunger levels rise dramatically if I do any kind of exercise, so my plan is to do this until I go back to 80kg and then go back to the gym and calorie counting phase.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Bro what you're doing isn't very smart, try tracking your macros and lifting, cardio is good but optional.

      Lifting will prevent muscle loss, or if you're eating enough protein, even build up muscle WHILE losing fat. It's a myth that you can't lose fat while gaining muscle.

      Eat a shit ton of protein (at the very least 1g per cm of height). Calculate your maintenance calories and eat 15-20% less than that. Eat enough fat so your hormones don't get fucked (for your weight it's something around 70g pet day). Carbs are the least important to hit

      If you do that, with time your hunger will adjust, your "feeling like shit" will also stop being a thing if you don't starve yourself (don't eat less than maintenance -20%)

      What you're doing will result in muscle loss

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I am very aware of the macros I eat, and I make all my meals with as much protein as I possibly can, which usually includes more than enough fat.
        The problem I have is that my approach to food in general has been very unhealthy my whole life, and I don't know if I have some autism or something but every time I track calories or macros I do it religiously to the point of spending most of my awake time thinking about that and that is definitely not a healthy relationship with food.
        This is why I want to spend some time trying to fix this and focus on getting a little bit more in touch with the signals my body sends me until I can actually know when am I feeling hungry because I am hungry and when am I hungry because of anxiety/boredom/stress/etc.
        I know I will lose muscle and won't look as good as many of you guys, but before doing that I want to actually look and eat like a normal person. Once I manage to do that I will start working on building muscle.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Quit being a fucking retard. try that first. God damn, you people are so fucking stupid.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >at the very least 1g per cm of height
        You people are just making shit up at this point what the fuck happened to this board

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          t. DYEl

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It sounds stupid but it's actually a pretty good rule of thumb for DYELs and fatties so the DYEL eats enough but the fatty doesn't delude himself into thinking he needs 250g per day at 40%bf
          If you're relatively lean, your height in cm will be close to your weight in lbs and it follows the 1g/lb rule.
          If you're at a point where you know you need more, you don't need to follow these quick and fast rules anymore
          >verification not required

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          It's a well-known estimate for fatties that can't use the typical ".8-1 gram per lean bodyweight" estimate.

          You just outed yourself as a DYEL

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Eat like a thin person
      It's literally this easy, you get 3 meals a day and ONE small snack. Only eat until you're not hungry any more, don't stuff yourself.
      Thin people generally eat until they're not hungry, fat people eat until they can't anymore or there's no food left.
      There are things that can help fill you up with low-calorie too but most people will eat those then use it as an excuse to add more meals and snacks, as a hungry skeleton I've realized that I had no appetite when I was just eating 3 meals a day, when I increased it to 3 meals plus 3 snacks to try and gain weight I started getting hungry again.
      Frequent snacks = hunger.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >fat people eat until they can't anymore or there's no food left.
        I was forced to finish my plate for thousands of days.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Have you tried putting less food on it?

  25. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The best diet is the one you can follow, normies have unrealistic goals, they want results immediately, they don't think in cycles or short-term, attainable goals, they lie to themselves, they follow meme diets they read about and are not consistent.
    When you start lifting you eventually solve all these issues and stop doing bullshit.
    /fit/izens might be autistic, even retarded, but they know that stuff.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this
      losing weight takes so damn long and it takes forever to see any results.you have to be able to defer gratification for months/years and let's be honest, if you could do that you probably wouldnt be obese to begin with

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        To be fair, it took a long time to GAIN that weight too. A lot of fat adults were fat as children as well (should be child abuse). It basically takes years of not giving a fuck to get to the level some people are at. That doesn't just happen overnight, and it won't go away overnight either.
        It sort of blows my mind, especially seeing it happen to women over the course of a year or two. Do they really just buy an entire new wardrobe every few weeks and think that's normal? I start losing my shit if my jeans are too tight in the waist.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >he doesn't own a set of bulking jeans

  26. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I could eat whatever zogsludge garbage I wanted in any ammounts as a teen and never got fat, but now I eat helthy food and get fat. it's not fair. what do I even do? eat nothing but grass or some shit? how do you guys stay lean?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Track your calories, figure out where you're messing up. Try intermittent fasting, stop all snacking if you're into that.

  27. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CICO
    >inb4 that one autist who cannot into guidelines or nuance
    not all macros are metabolically equal

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      B-but what if you do something profoundly retarded like eat nothing but pure sugar? HA! CICOfags BTFO!

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The twinkie self experiment proves it still works but you'll have to supplement vitamins.

  28. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Same reason why normies are all poor as shit and in credit card debt

    Average person literally just does what they are told, believes what they are told, has no discipline agency or foresight

  29. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they lack the discipline to actually count calories and eat right and exercise.

  30. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    THEYRE SURROUNDED BY GAINS GOBLINS

  31. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    your average normalfag's hobbies consist of eating out, drinking, and watching TV. It's not rocket science.

  32. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They don't try, they just complain.
    I went from over 15 stone to under 10 in 8 months and gained muscle. Literally 180 on life because I was tired of being a fat cunt, people treat me better and clothes are cheaper.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I have no idea what 15 to 10 stone means but i’m happy for you bro. People really do treat you differently

  33. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fundamentally, what I have observed is that normies are fairly ignorant about how significantly their lifestyle impairs their weight loss efforts.

    For example, a normie knows that you need to eat less to lose weight. So they fire up MyFitnessPal and start eating at a deficit. But...

    >eating shit processed food in place of whole unprocessed food
    >eating a little protein here and there vs tons of protein to support lean muscle growth
    >relentless daily cardio (just leaves you hungry and skinny fat) instead of lifting weights
    >tracking "most" meals but giving themselves free reign to eat "free meals" on weekends, which completely un-does the caloric deficit they created in the week

    And then the ultimate is
    >Being really motivated for the first three weeks, then losing interest and slipping back into old habits.

    From my own weight loss efforts, it's insane how long it takes to actually lose meaningful weight. I didn't see results on the scale for a few weeks, and I was eating at a strict deficit — it just takes patience and consistency. Most people don't have that.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      also it can be uncomfortable losing weight. but if you're /fat/ being outside in the cold is literally a weight loss cheat code, thermogenesis really jacks up the metabolism

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Being outside in the cold
        I don't know what put the idea in their head but most people think that being cold or hot is dangerous and not healthy, it's to the point where like 1/2 of women won't go outside at all the entire winter because they're terrified of getting a cold.

  34. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >lemme fry my dopamine levels into the oblivion by bombardment with social media, tv, yt, tiktok, porn, news, smoking, hyperpallatable food, prescription drugs, alchohol and than spend last drops of will to get myself ready and do my 9/5 job
    >ayoooo why i want to look and feel good, but cant force myself into caring about my day to day decisions in terms of food and activity
    what a bizarre riddle

  35. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I'm trying to analyze this like a scientist looking at a population of animals. What's changed, what is affecting everyone, because this issue is widespread and multi faceted. Here's what I see:

    1) the increasing prevalence of processed foods, and the metabolic effects on the population as a whole over time

    2) an increasingly sedentary lifestyle for the average person

    3) a culture of instant gratification, people are less patient

    4) social media has increased how much we rely on comparison to others for our self esteem. Much easier to feel discouraged.

    5) overwhelming amounts of misinformation

    I think people trying to sell us things are responsible for most of it, intentionally or not. They are looking for ways to exploit how the brain works. Overtime this fundamentally inhibits the brain's ability to function normally and rationally.

    Obviously, not all individuals in a population react the same to the same stimuli. Our biological makeup and the infinite variations in each individual's environment will have an impact. But trends in the population indicate trends in the environment. This is a much bigger issue than "people are weak and have no discipline"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Modern processed food are hyper palatable. Food scientists and technologists will engineer a product that drives our senses wild and then we yearn for more. We like sugar, we like fat. Sugar is a cheap ingredient. Organisations only care about profits, if healthy whole foods sold well they would make it. But they've realised it doesn't. They should be held responsible, but they don't care because money is coming in.
      One of the biggest ironies in the modern first world, accessibility of food is too easy which results in obesity. Maybe it's cosmic justice.

  36. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just to be clear on matters of character in the weight loss/control process, I have had not one basic clue about the thousands of kinds of unconscious body processess that happen in the sympathetic/parasympathetic systems. The biochemistry of a slab of liver compared to a double serving of goyslop was not in the curriculum; yet now you say it is on the test.

  37. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Goyslop master list
    >teflon forever chemicals
    >microplastics
    >sneed/vegetable motor oils with mercury and lead
    >soi
    >aluminum neurotoxins
    >TVP vegan dogfood
    >glyphosate and atrazine
    >fluoride, chlorine dioxide, bromate
    >TBHQ
    >bugs

  38. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    *saves your cut*

  39. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i think a lot of people just buy too much shit food and snacks and cant resist it once they are trying to lose weight, i remember having some stuff like canned processed meat and just cooking and eating the entire thing at night because i got hungry so now i just dont keep shit food in my house, also normies cope a lot by buying cookies or some shit "in case they get guests" but end up eating it themselves and stocking up again and repeating that loop.
    from a 2.05m 140 kg guy who lost about 30 kg so far or 6 foot 9 375 pound to 308 pound this year and still going

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Whats it like being that tall?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i don't know it's all i've ever known, but everyone saying whoooooa you are tall and saying i should play basketball is annoying, having a head start on getting alcohol was chill tho, got drunk on a school trip, nobody expects the over 6 foot tall guy with beard to be 15 or 16 years old

  40. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can achieve the same health benefits of "eating healthy" by not eating at all. Really makes you think.

  41. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because losing weight requires dedication.
    I've always been at around 16-17% bodyfat and wanted to have abs for some time, 4 years I've been trying a summer "cut", until last May I've decided to get my head out of my ass and stick to the cut. What I thought would be 3-4 weeks of cutting turned into 3 months of cardio 3-4 times a week and eating one meal a day. I was shocked by the amount of fat I've had in my inner thighs and ass.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I was shocked by the amount of fat I've had in my inner thighs and ass.
      pics?

  42. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yohimbine and b3 megadose thank me later, second best cutting tool to adderall and crystal meth

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Meth and adderall is second to dnoc/dnp and sibutramine

  43. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because calorie counting is "too hard"

  44. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The secret forbidden cutting tool that's a secret kept for generations

  45. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Low dopamine. People don’t quite understand how important your brain chemistry is. Willpower is a direct function of your dopamine levels. Low dopamine means you are much more likely to choose the low effort path.

    >All brain regions currently implicated in effort-based decision-making utilize dopamine released from neurons in the ventral tegmental area as a neurotransmitter. This observation suggests a central role for dopamine in effort-based decision-making. Such an idea gains support from studies demonstrating that effortful choices can be reduced by 6-hydroxydopamine (6-OHDA) lesions of the nucleus accumbens (Salamone et al., 1994), as well as by systemic treatment with the D2 receptor antagonist, haloperidol
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2791340/

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      How fix?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Exercise, touch grass, have a healthy diet, etc.
        Also, if you have depression or something similar, try to fix that.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This is the part I need to fix, I can do the lifting and eating, it just takes twice as long as it could to make myself.

  46. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So as a fatty, I can explain.
    I've lost about 30lbs in the last 2 months, finally it's easy for me, I'm actually making progress.

    Anyway, the average obese person is actually very deficient in key minerals and vitamins that your body needs from their very very poor diets that they've been on for years or decades. (Often obese people didn't have a balanced diet as children)

    For this reason I think their body isn't working correctly and they are largely overestimating their TDEE/BMR. For me, I cannot lose weight unless I exercise at least 4-5 days a week, I have been losing more as I've sorted my own hormone and mineral deficiency issues out.

    The fat people I know, including myself (until recently), either order fast food all day every day, eat out, or eat prepackaged meals. They might be eating their fat carbs and protein, but they won't be eating healthy.

    CICO works, but the body has to be working correctly in the first place.
    It's hard at first because your body tells you it's starving too, so many people give up after a few weeks, after a few more weeks this went away for me.

    But I think it might be an exaggerated hunger response in obese people because they genuinely are undernourished and need actual vitamins, so the body signals hunger.

    Fat people don't eat vegetables or fruit, either, the most is the lettuce and maybe a tomato slice on a burger.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Mineral deficiency does not prevent weight loss in fact it accelerates it, you can also literally fix most mineral deficiencies in days to weeks.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      As a former fatty I can explain. It ALL comes down to willpower. My BMI at its highest was fucking 38. Now it's 23. One day I decided I don't want to live like this anymore and just said fuck it I'll lose weight or die trying. I stopped stuffing my face and grinded it out. It was easy. Looking back I don't even know how I lived like that. Everyone can do it with self control, willpower, and a desire to be better. EVERYONE. There is no excuse other than being weak willed. If someone tries cutting calories and it doesn't work cut more. Still no progress? Cut more. Don't eat at all if that's what it takes to make the scale move.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yup, everyone is just coping right now. Life is so easy when you just stop coping and try to improve yourself. It's like a whole culture is trying to figure out why they're depressed, ugly, lazy, fat, and stupid but they're not allowed to just say "me and my actions."
        The COPE has to be something that is pointed out, everyone COPES at some point and it's usually terrible for them.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Great post.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Fat people don't eat vegetables or fruit
      fat ppl fucking love fruit its like candy

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Vitamin deficiencies are a meme when it comes to losing weight. I've supplemented everything for over 5 years and take shit like spermidine and niacin which raise my temperature but I still needed to cut my food intake to actually lose weight.

  47. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Genetics. It depends what your TDEE is. If it's 2800, you're set. If it's 500, you're either fat or living on cottage cheese and a slice of toast every day of your life.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >genetics

  48. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Considering over half of Americans will be obese by 2030, it's no longer an individual issue but a pandemic. Maybe humans just aren't made to resist eating.

  49. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    There exists a large discrepancy between what people think they eat and what they actually consume. This behavior is well documented. See https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJM199212313272701

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Low energy expenditure was thus excluded as a mechanism of self-reported diet resistance. In contrast, the subjects in group 1 underreported their actual food intake by an average (±SD) of 47±16 percent and overreported their physical activity by 51±75 percent. Although the subjects in group 1 had no distinct psychopathologic characteristics, they perceived a genetic cause for their obesity, used thyroid medication at a high frequency, and described their eating behavior as relatively normal (all P<0.05 as compared with group 2).
      >No, I only eat 1200 calories a day!
      >Underreporting on average of 50%
      >Actually eating 1,800 a day
      >And I exercise too!
      >Actually exercises only half as much as they say
      Holy cow, fat people are retarded. Is this a case of them just being too stupid to remember the 5 snickers they ate earlier?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It comes as no surprise that fat people who refuse to fix themselves have a massive overlap with narcissists simply coping and outright lying to themselves and others.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Trump comes to mind.
          Fatass narcissistic retard who's supporters are overwhelmingly other rotund narcissistic morons that found some daddy figure to justify their shitty lifestyle and worldview.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      My wife literally deluded herself into eating half a bag of gas station donuts without remembering every 2 days. It took a literally addiction intervention to snap her out of it. Surprise, she lost 2lb in 12 days after cutting cold, despite the cubical cows grazing in the office.

      It’s fun to make fun of fatties for lying to themselves, but in many cases they’re just mentally fucked.

  50. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They’re stuck on the three meals a day paradigm

  51. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    as a former obese guy now a skele (6'1" 170lb), it's just hard simple as. 1500 cals a day is painful when you usually eat 3500. movies, tv, internet, music, everything is completely unenjoyable, and all you can think about is food, on top of that you have to do it potentially for a year or more.

  52. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i dieted for a week (no breakfast, one steamed potato for lunch, and ate a 900~800 calorie or lower dinner) and got over that hump and it just became routine since.

    is the body routine adjustment of a fatty much different? i'd imagine their stomachs would get smaller by then and they'd have to lose weight?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No breakfast
      Starvation
      >One steamed potato
      Right, one potato with 1 cup of cheese and a whole stick of butter, fat people don't cook and don't even eat potatoes that aren't fried
      >A 900 calorie or lower dinner
      A small snack, what's that, 3 mcchickens?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        i have another question. if we strapped a fatty and forced them on such a diet, would their liver give out and die from the shock of the diet change? or would their bodies burn the excess fat they have first before they're anywhere near dying?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The body would go into starvation mode and start producing calories out of thin air #haes #mybodymychoice

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            kek

            Odds are they would have loose skin but their body would eat any "unneeded" parts, this means that they'd lose a huge amount of scar tissue, their stomach would shrink, and their organs would have a long time off to recover. Basically all of their organs would likely be several times healthier from getting so much time off, afterwards they might not even WANT to eat 8 meals a day. As long as they get the electrolytes and minerals they need they'll come out of it much healthier than before.

            my god, so they won't even die from normal people diets. i can't tell you how many times i've heard that excuse to a point it was plausible because it's hard to imagine what their body had adapted to. but i see it's all in their head as delusion.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Odds are they would have loose skin but their body would eat any "unneeded" parts, this means that they'd lose a huge amount of scar tissue, their stomach would shrink, and their organs would have a long time off to recover. Basically all of their organs would likely be several times healthier from getting so much time off, afterwards they might not even WANT to eat 8 meals a day. As long as they get the electrolytes and minerals they need they'll come out of it much healthier than before.

  53. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    they are neurotic and mentally ill which makes them feel they don't control their own lives and they don't

  54. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it's really hard. If I don't watch what I eat I can easily consume 2k cals of snacks in an evening (like today)

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Stop buying snacks then

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's very hard since I HATE my life and want some kind of joy in it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          this is the real reason why we stay fat dude

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yep. I even got demoted at my job since my new CEO hates me. I fucking hate life.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Everyone gets respect when they begin to respect themselves. Fat acceptance isn't loving yourself and your body, it's cope for doing the opposite.

              Get in shape and the world around you will completely change for the better.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              We are biologically programmed to hate fat people. Halo effect is very real anon. Please lose the weight and watch everyone treat you 10x better.

  55. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They dont have the willpower to put the fork down, its as simple as that

  56. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >spend a year dieting
    >your "reward" is you now have to eat 700 less kcal a day for the rest of your life or you immediately start gaining weight again
    dieting to 25 BMI is the dumbest thing I ever did, now I'm stuck in sunk cost hell. Maintaining on 2300 kcal TDEE is torture

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Maintaining on 2300 kcal TDEE is torture
      Thats a lot of fucking food?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        About 3 slices of deep pan pizza, a couple of beers, a cheese sandwich and a bag of chips, actually. Not 'a lot' at all.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          do you ever cook healthy satiable meals? all you're eating is fast food garbage right now, no wonder it doesn't keep you full.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So you're basically admitting CICO isn't real?

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              CICO has nothing to do with satiety. a healthy meal that puts your organs to work into breaking it down would last you much longer and save you calories in the long run because you'd feel less hungry.

              meanwhile, a heavily processed mcdonald's meal of the same caloric worth would have your body break it down much quicker and makes you feeling hungrier faster.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no it isn't. Some days you just want to gorge (4000-5000 kcal). Then you're fasting a day or eating shitty 1500kcal for half a week to cover it which is even worse torture. Whereas if your BMR is higher you can just binge and then eat normal. This is why being born with naturally high BMR makes such a big difference. The people who say genetics have a point. The extra kcal is much bigger than it sounds when you average it out

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Do you have any hobbies and do you do anything and do you cook your own food and eat lots of unprocessed stuff?
      Like come on dude, 2,300 calories is a lot of food
      >3 pounds of chicken breast 2,200 calories
      >10 pounds of squash 2,000 calories
      >Roughyl 6 pounds of potatoes
      >Oh no, I can only eat 6 pounds of potatoes today!
      At the end of the day if you actually have to cook or buy your food getting 2,300 calories a day is a lot. Unless you have some obese enabler or spend hours a day cooking eating that much in a day actually takes work.

      About 3 slices of deep pan pizza, a couple of beers, a cheese sandwich and a bag of chips, actually. Not 'a lot' at all.

      And there it is, literally all shit

      no it isn't. Some days you just want to gorge (4000-5000 kcal). Then you're fasting a day or eating shitty 1500kcal for half a week to cover it which is even worse torture. Whereas if your BMR is higher you can just binge and then eat normal. This is why being born with naturally high BMR makes such a big difference. The people who say genetics have a point. The extra kcal is much bigger than it sounds when you average it out

      >You just want to gorge
      What kind of mental illness is this? Why do you "just want to gorge" 5,000 calories? How much of that 5,000 calories is actually good food?

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >At the end of the day if you actually have to cook or buy your food getting 2,300 calories a day is a lot
        a single hand size pie has like 1500 kcal in it. It's fucking nothing

        >What kind of mental illness is this? Why do you "just want to gorge" 5,000 calories?
        You've never eaten takeout in your life?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >You've never eaten takeout in your life?
          Yup, I have, as an occasional treat. I never want to sit down and eat that shit enough that it could ever impact my diet or make me gain weight. Do you do this every day? Do you cook your own food?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Do you do this every day?
            no because I would put on weight

            >I never want to sit down and eat that shit enough that it could ever impact my diet or make me gain weight
            If you have to eat at your TDEE every day to feel full then even once will impact your weight. That is my point, lower TDEE of even a couple hundred kcal is worse than it sounds because you have to go hungry to cover off days

            Stop eating at Greg's.

            >dude just never eat tasty food again lmao

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >If you have to eat at your TDEE every day
              Have you considered just cooking your own food and cooking low-calorie food or is that not possible now?
              >I have to eat shit food or else it's not tasty!
              WOW AND I HAVE TO EAT THE STICK OF BUTTER AND A CUP OF SUGAR OR IT'S JUST NOT TASTY HOW CAN THEY NOT GET IT???

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Have you considered just cooking low-calorie food
                another way of saying "have you considered stop eating foods you like" and no I would rather just eat smaller portions. Good food is pleasure, expecting to give it up forever is unreasonable and why everyone fails diets

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I literally cannot like food that doesn't have 9,000 calories a serving
                Oink oink

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >dude just never eat the foods you like ever again
                >WTF why do so many people struggle with losing weight??

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Unironically yes. You have made it clear that you’re ngmi, so fuck off back to class 3 obesity and an early grave (double wide pls).

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                You sound like those fatties that "have a relationship with food"

                A RELATIONSHIP WITH FOOD

                Learn to fucking bake fish and chicken, gay. Learn to aromatics, gay.
                Learn to baste, gay.
                Learn to substitute, gay.

                I hate fatties so much it's unreal.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                my relationship with food is I eat things that are tasty
                if I had to eat boring tasteless foods every day I would just stay fat

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >boring tasteless foods
                Now I know you're a fat manchild with no desire to get better. You'll never learn to cook, you'll never learn how to make even the most basic dishes. Fish like tilapia alone has insane macros for cutting, and it's so easy to cook and make taste amazing without loading it with fucking corn syrup and msg and whatever the fuck else is in that goyslop you love so goddamn much. I got a few skinless filets marinating in hot pepper vinegar right now that I'm gonna cook up tomorrow, and it's gonna taste better than anything you've had this fucking month, guarantee it.

                Do us all a favor and die if you're gonna be a fat shit.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >if you like high fat high salt high sugar foods you're a manchild
                your taste buds died from covid
                and get fucked I'll eat what I want and still stay thin because I'm not an 80 IQ sperg who can only think black and white
                >without loading it with fucking corn syrup and msg
                ever heard of salt and butter

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I'm not an 80 IQ sperg who can only think black and white
                >puts words in my mouth to build strawmen

                also

                >claims to be thin
                >"if I had to eat boring tasteless foods every day I would just stay fat"

                Post body so I can laugh

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/W30UubY.gif

                >I literally cannot like food that doesn't have 9,000 calories a serving
                Oink oink

                You hear the most absurd copes from fat people or people eating shit food, guarantee if you start eating actually healthy food your brain will rewire itself and your gut bacteria will change to make you actually enjoy healthy food
                >Waaaah eating at maintenance is hard, all I can eat is a slightly smaller amount of pizza and pretzels and beer!
                Just stop coping and stop eating shit food. Eat real food. Stop coping, eating shit food is only "enjoyable" because you've been eating it all you life and your hormones / gut health is fucked and you can't live a day without drinking sugar water.

                >dude just never eat the foods you like ever again
                >WTF why do so many people struggle with losing weight??

                Just cook your own food retard, it's literally that easy. Stop eating shit and you won't want to eat that goyslop ever again in a month.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >noo your brain is just tricking you into thinking high fat high salt high sugar foods are tasty!

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >>noo your brain is just tricking you into thinking high fat high salt high sugar foods are tasty!
                Yes. A "normal" and "healthy" brain feels disgust from the sugar water and fat cakes you consume as just a little snack before your 4,000 calorie meal, it is literally not fit for human consumption.
                You have no natural urges to eat that shit every day, what you have is a habit and laziness. Learn to drink unsweetened tea and maybe you'll understand, you eat shit food though so you probably can't stand LE ICKY BITTER taste.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                fat tastes good dude, you are just coping if you don't think so. There is a reason people like high cal food

                moron I used to be obese and when I switched to cooking my own shit based on unprocessed meats, eggs, dairy I feel like absolute shit after eating goyslop. you develop some kind of tolerance to it

                It's not just goyslop. Most things tasty are less satiating. You are essentially saying "just stop eating the foods you like best" which is unreasonable for most fat people

                This fucking manlet debate raging on. How fucking small are all of you maintaining on 2300cal? I slow bulk at 3300ish.

                I was 3000kcal before I fell for the sub-25 BMI meme

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Eat healthy and cook your own food, have you tried it?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                yes and it's not worth it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You are essentially saying "just stop eating the foods you like best" which is unreasonable for most fat people
                No, it's all about not eating goyslop or garbage advertised as healthy. It was easy giving up the shitty processed crap and just eating more meat and eggs, which are far more satiating and far less calorie dense. Fatties fail because they force themselves to eat like rabbits because greens are "le healthy" for some reason, and then relapse because that diet is depressing.
                If I crave some "KFC" I just bake chicken breast in olive oil, then dip it in BBQ sauce or ketchup. I can eat a kilo of that shit and it's like 1200 kcal.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >more meat and eggs, which are far more satiating and far less calorie dense
                not really though
                a full english is like 1000-1500kcal and it barely fills you. Then you have 800kcal left to last you a whole day

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >A full english
                >Healthy
                >And it barely fills you
                Kek

                https://i.imgur.com/tdQ6AOj.jpg

                I've seen dozens of fatsos trying to lose weight for LITERAL YEARS, trying all sorts of different diets, but almost NEVER succeeding at the end

                Why are they like this?
                What are most of them doing wrong?

                >I-is that a butternut squash with 200 calories per pound and a great taste and texture and flavor?
                >Eeeewww, icky, yuck, you need sugar and fat and lots of calories for food to be good! I couldn't eat that icky and gross sqaush stuff, I need my fast food burger and shake to really be healthy

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >you don't have to cut foods you like that's just an excuse from fatties who don't want to change
                >nooo what do you mean you eat fried meats and eggs and bread just eat squash every day bro!

                https://i.imgur.com/drNtDSU.jpg

                Unironically yes. You have made it clear that you’re ngmi, so fuck off back to class 3 obesity and an early grave (double wide pls).

                gay I kept my weight off to a pound for six years something 95% of fatties fail to do. You wish you had my discipline and mental fortitude

                I cannot eat two small packets of gushers without feeling sick.

                Your brain and gut health is totally fucked and you need a reset to be enlightened.

                those kinds of sweets also make me sick but I suspect it's something they put in, you can easily eat a 600kcal slice of cake or pie/tart which is just as unhealthy and not feel sick the way they make you

                Coping loser
                NGMI

                if you think fat and butter and salt doesn't make things taste better you're the one coping

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >Just eat squash every day bro!
                Yes.
                This is some kind of impossible and hard task for you?

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                Coping loser
                NGMI

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I dunno about you, but after a 15km run I enjoy the shit out a slice of cheesecake

                in fact the thought of eating that damn cheesecake after the run is what gets me going in the first place

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                moron I used to be obese and when I switched to cooking my own shit based on unprocessed meats, eggs, dairy I feel like absolute shit after eating goyslop. you develop some kind of tolerance to it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I feel like absolute shit after eating goyslop
                Yup, exactly what I was talking about. After eating healthy you don't EVER want to eat goyslop more than one day in a row, the fat and sugar lumps do not sit well with a healthy body at all.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I can't imagine this...my diet is basically southern-fried chicken burgers (on white bread buns, with loads of mayo, mrs renfro salsa and processed cheese), or chicken wings and fries, or big lasagnes. Sorry, when I see people posting oats, boiled eggs, sardines and broccolli, I just want to puke.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >I can't imagine this
                Because of blow-out tastebuds. When you stop eating goyslop oats with blueberries tastes like actual good food, unsweetened tea has a mildly sweet flavor (if steeped properly), boiled eggs are always shit though unless you put hotsauce on them, turn into a great meal with hotsauce.
                Sardines have always tasted great, same with canned tuna.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I cannot eat two small packets of gushers without feeling sick.

                Your brain and gut health is totally fucked and you need a reset to be enlightened.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I purposely don't buy any candy because I can never stop myself from eating the whole 300g pack of Haribo in one sitting
                I don't understand people who can just take three and then leave it

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I literally feel physically ill if I eat too much processed sugar at once. And it's not a lot, 25g tops.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                don't think its your brain tricking you, its some biochemical process that is. whether thats from your brain, your gut bacteria or metabolism idfk,

                I took medication for an infection. heavy antibiotics that killed most of my gut bacteria.
                after that I started gaining weight like crazy.
                took half the package of the pills and the other half was still left.
                I felt like shit. literally.
                feeling the need to reverse this curse I decided to eat the other half of the back too and... not it gets a bit disgusting... pushed used toilet paper from my gf (shes very slim) up my ass.
                my farts started smelling like hers and luckily, I lost all the weight I gain again.

                try resetting your guts, anons.
                the only hard part would be getting a hold of thin peoples poop.

              • 3 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I eat what I want with a caveat. I have to do a hard lifting session first. If I don't lift then I eat clean and lean at a deficit or simply fast that day. It's a pretty nice way to recomp actually.

            • 3 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Nobody is telling you to live on skinless chicken breast and broccoli

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Stop eating at Greg's.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      You mine fren are a fatass

  57. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I eat 1200 calories a day and have done since 2017, and I've never gone below 210lbs (5' 10)

  58. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    More than anything they think "oh just this occasion eating out won't hurt" and other things like this that do hurt because they don't realize the one occasion is actually way more often than their diet really compensates for.

  59. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its literally just ignoring or underestimating calorie intake, sedentary lifestyle and nutritional illiteracy. Nice foods are cheap and abundant, despite being atrocious for you. Dieting is not instantly gratifying and is uncomfortable and difficult. How do you not understand this?

  60. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They view exercise as a painful experience rather than a pleasurable one.

  61. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This fucking manlet debate raging on. How fucking small are all of you maintaining on 2300cal? I slow bulk at 3300ish.

  62. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    how these guys eat fast food and take out all the time without feeling sluggishly sick or GERD makes me feel a little jelly. i guess it's a bit of a blessing and a curse.

    even a single cheat day where i eat fast food, i'd feel like i'm borderline vomiting and end up tasting my food again in liquid form as it releases itself as stomach acid burps and i'd feel sleepy all day with itis. this never used to happen in my early 20s and younger. happens with overly Hispanicy food too, but only from take-out places and rarely if i cook Hispanicy stuff for myself.

  63. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Once you fuck up your hormones it's hard to fix them naturally. We should just be prescribing fatties test and thyroid hormone and whatnot. Any complications from the exogenous hormones would still be better than obesity.

    The fact that we don't pretty much confirms that the pharma and food injuries are colluding to make people fat.

  64. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >too many cheat days
    >not actually understanding their own diet
    >not doing time restricted eating
    >ignores serving size
    >lack of patience and willpower
    >food addiction

  65. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >trying all sorts of different diets,
    Because the only way to lose weight is to be in caloric deficit and the only way to reliably be in caloric deficit is to eat less.

    You will find that it isn't just normalfags, IST too is full of fags who will try every random horoscope based bullshit meme diet on the planet before simply counting calories. Because counting calories requires some discipline

  66. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They refuse to believe calories in / calories out. It’s an IQ test unironically

  67. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Wife is struggling to get rid of the last of her baby weight about 5kg. Baby has been teething and irritable in general for the last few weeks. He’s taken to waking up around about 5am in the morning and is on at her all day and most of the night. Constantly grabbing at her and wanting to be held, screaming if not. He’s also trying to walk and grab/ pull over/ eat everything in sight so you constantly have to watch him. Wife’s also been ill so she’s just been stress eating to cope with the exhaustion and stress. She broke down crying last night, she’s depressed and sick of being in a rut fitness wise, no motivation. I feel bad for her, I know he’s hard work and pretty baby she was very fitness focused. Don’t know how to help her.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *pre

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Unironically take the Ray Peat pill

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Don’t know how to help her.
      Gee I don't know. Try looking after your kid for an hour a day so she can get some fucking work out time in.

  68. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Fat normie here
    I have no discipline
    That's it really

  69. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >skinny and lean all my life
    >get gf
    >suddenly gaining a pound a week like clockwork

    is this the normie trap lads?

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Either you're eating out more often on dates or she's cooking you food and she's over-reliant on oil.

  70. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone else think it’s complete bullshit Tony Soprano was able to beat up that ripped guy in the later season?

  71. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They spend so much time looking for and trying quick and easy methods instead of just going with what they deem as uncomfortable for a year or two.

    My mother was the worst yoyo dieter and never learned to discipline herself, so I promised myself I would never become that pathetic and mentally weak.

  72. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >trying all sorts of different diets
    It's this. "muh temporary weight loss diet" is the funniest meme, and they don't realize that a change in diet is a permanent lifestyle change

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this, the women in my family are always doing fad diets and make ok progress for a month then they plateau and return to their normal selves. its frustrating as i lost more weight than all of them combined doing OMAD /cico
      but no i dont know what im talking about

  73. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's unthinkable for most people to cut certain foods or entire meals from their diets.

    When I tried OMAD for 1 month, everyone was acting like I was crazy, because I wasn't fat to begin with, still I was able to drop 9 kg

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      OMAD bro. my family thought i developing a ED when i started and they still think so even when im happier and healthier

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >fat fuck with 30lbs of makeup
        >but muh big tits (when pushed up by a table)
        Never post this again

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no. im hungry for the mcdonalds not the woman

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Post moar of pretty big milker lady

          duality of man

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Post moar of pretty big milker lady

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Eww

  74. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why are they like this?
    Because they're retards
    >What are most of them doing wrong?
    Eating goyslop

  75. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >What are most of them doing wrong?
    - not tracking calories which often leads to them eating way too less and then overeating
    - no active lifestyle and no feel for how much calories certain activities burn compared to how much calories a piece of cake or a bag of chips has
    - often they are not dieting AND working out, just doing one or the other
    - unrealistic expectations of weight loss + how their body will look, most of the time losing fat does not equal to looking better if you're not working out as well
    - no discipline, even if tracking calories and working out many fail, as with everything after a while people get filtered out and only the strong remain

    Most normies don't put in the work to inform themselves and they have a bunch of excuses most of the time as well. The excuses might all be legit but that doesn't matter.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      added story time, my parents wanted to lose some weight and had a 'competition' who could lose 3kg first. I was just starting to cut so I decided to join in. They teased me for tracking calories but then looked very surprised when I told them I lost the 3kg a few weeks after. I don't get why people don't like to track calories. It's like refusing to use a calendar. Why not relieve yourself from the burden of cluttering your limited brain with useless information that can easily be tracked and forgotten?

  76. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I was up at about 270, I have sustained 190 and I'm doing a second cut down to a target of 170 or so. Fasting (48 hour, every couple of weeks, more in the beginning) and cutting out carbohydrates was required for me to reset my hunger signals. I can eat like a normal human now. Before that, I tried for years to lose weight but as, as best as I can describe it, addicted to sugar and carbohydrates. It took hard work and willpower, certainly, but fasting and cutting carbs was instrumental to resetting my body's relationship to food. Dr. Now gets this right when he tells these people to start with no bread.

  77. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it all comes down to willpower. Fatties already have shitty physical habits which damage their brains, basedbean oils, oxidation from vegetable oils, microplastics, red40, high fructose corn syrup etc.
    On top of that they supplement this with shitty habits that further damage their brains porn, sportsball, videogames, scrolling tiktok endlessly etc. They have killed their soul, they have no inner monologue because there is no one left to talk to inside. So of course they cant order themselves to accomplish such a task.

  78. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They think cico is fake and unhealthy

  79. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Idk man life is pretty shit for most people. After a point you don't really have much inceptive to care that much. I can imagine shitty food is a widely accessible pleasure that most people can abuse for the dopamine rush.
    They think they want to change but then life happens and they go back to their old ways.

  80. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone who enjoys modern society is living in a state of denial and anxiety. Period.

  81. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Personally, I think the emotional side of wellness is too often overlooked when it is actually the most important. I always carried a bit of excess weight, even when doing everything "right". Ever since I started smoking weed, the weight melted off and I stay cut pretty easily even when eating like an absolute garbage disposal.

  82. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because they are fucking brain dead mouth breathers who dont understand even the most basic of things. The fav norime that I have to deal with is ~20 pounds over weight and talks about how he wants to get abs again like he did when he was a grunt in the Army. This guy is currently going to the gym once a week and insists that the leg press machine is for abs then legs. He refuses to do anything with a barbell because it hurts his hands and back. A full cardio session for him is walking on the treadmill for 15 mins. He does not even break a sweat. This is what they are like in real life. Its insufferable. I been to the gym with him four times so far and he will take a smoke break every fucking time. They are helpless.

  83. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Irl friend says she struggles with losing weight
    >Tell her CICO
    >"I count my calories, Anon and I always eat under that but I keep gaining weight. It must be my metabolism."
    >Talk to her bf
    >"She eats like shit, and gets me to eat like shit too"
    You can bring the horse to the well, but you can't make them drink.

  84. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not tracking calories properly and consistently enough

  85. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Normies struggle so much because fast food is relatively cheap and convenient, cars and public transport completely remove the need for walking, cycling, jogging, running and sprinting, they have a constant 24/7 dopamine dispenser in their pocket and at home, and there is simply no mass media that pushes normies to exercise
    Any other answer is complete bullshit

  86. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    So... What's a retard proof way to track calories?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      stop eating out and make your own food. even if you do go out make sure to get a grilled chicken sandwich instead of a regular burger, diet soda instead of regular soda, cut the fries, be careful with condiments like ranch or ketchup. 1 tiny cup of Chick-fil-A sauce has 140Cal and it's easy to go through 3 of those

  87. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because they fall for meme "healthy foods"
    fatties love to consume granola, nuts, and even argue artificial sweeteners are worse than sugar because sugar is "natural"
    one time at work they gave us 1 snack and had us decide between a rice crispy treat or a bag of almonds. i chose the rice crispy treat and some fatty being me said the almonds are better for you. i pointed out how 1 crispy treat has 90 Cal compared to the 270 Cal in the bag of almonds and i can eat 3 crispy treats for that 1 bag of almonds. "b-but that has more sugar and you have a faster metabolism"
    they eat the same shitty >3000Cal diet but eat an apple or drink a diet coke on top of it and call it a diet. there is no saving these retards

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      *behind me

  88. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i know the basics and its incredibly simple. eat less move more. but I was always kinda fat with no direction or positive role models. I was told 'real men have guts' when i was 12 when i complained about being made fun of. I've been in decent shape before, but it did nothing to improve my happiness or increase the number of dates or times i got laid. Now I live by myself, no where near friends or family, with my main enjoyment being fast food and booze. When i show up for holidays its a lot of fat jokes. I have no one to let down by being fat and no support, just gonna orbit thru life

  89. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i've been in the circle of constantly losing weight and ganing weight a like a retard, reasons for that?
    >lose weight
    >start eating like a fat piece of shit again
    >drop training also cuz i'd rather play vidya
    >gain weight again
    >get angry and start losing weight again
    >start training also
    >...
    >repeat x5 years

    it's been only last year and a half that i've been training seriously and i've never been stronger and looking better before, apparently turning into depressed fuck that doesn't find vidya fun anymore helped a lot

  90. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What makes processed food the devil?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Usually has obeseogenic, addictive, hunger-inducing and metabolically disruptive ingredients as well as massive amounts of extra calories devoid of nutrition like through seed oils and added sugar

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >simple carbs spike blood sugar levels, make you hungry more often
      >pesticides
      >seed oils
      >food colorings
      >flouride
      >other chemicals
      and on and on

  91. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I’ve been thinking about this.

    At least 4 in 5 people are completely incapable of any critical analysis or questioning of ideas without an external source guiding them. These are the people that are programmed to listen to authority, and to react emotionally rather than logically when the authority is questioned, because essentially these people have tied their personal egos and identities to the prevalent authorities and institutions of society. Of course they really don’t have a choice - in a collective consciousness sense it makes sense that most people are literal slavebots who perfectly follow routines, accept information without thinking about it, and vigorously defend it also without thinking about it.

    Of course on some level we are all capable of committing logical falsities, being irrational, etc. But if a person appears completely incapable of logically or rationally questioning things that they aren’t explicitly told by a higher authority to do so, to the point that trying to get them to do it results in rage and frustration, you can’t convince me this person isn’t a hylic whose sole purpose is to give power to the humans who have capability of independent thought. It seems strongly correlated with IQ but there are exceptions

  92. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because some idiot told them to do CICO

  93. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >caring about normies
    Didn't they just a few months ago elect for ritual mass suicide with the clotshot?

    Who gives the slighest fuck what these cretins think.

  94. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's something called linoleic acid which normalfags are consooming 200% more than they need to and ruining their health

  95. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Most people don't understand that a 5/10 diet you will be able to stick to long term is infinitely better than a 10/10 diet that you won't. Only a minority of people have the inherent willpower to stick to diet of salads, tasteless lean meats and zero treats for years. These are the people who end up being the poster boys of fitness so their advice, while working for them, will not work for most of the population. However as they are the visible poster boys this is the advice everyone sees. Actual advice that will work for the average lowish/moderate willpowered person:
    Do an OK diet and you will have no problem sticking to it for years.

  96. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it's simple
    when a hylic finds themselves in a sick environment, the hylic will become sick

  97. 2 weeks ago
    Dudd

    In the US at least, it's literally impossible to lose weight by doing what's common (i didn't say normal).

    I can eat an entire plate of food in Poland and probably have less calories than one Taco Bell order. Did you see the Dairy Queen 2000 calorie smoothie? One of those will set you back a day.

  98. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Im fat because i drink about a handle every day.

  99. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s because they make excuses and don’t actually do what’s necessary. Losing weight is an incredibly basic, easy formula. You simply need to burn more calories than you take in. No amount of cops changes this simple fact. So if they aren’t losing weight it means they’re diet isnt as good as it needs to be, they aren’t working out hard enough, or both

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      No amount of cope*

  100. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's the goyslop.

  101. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They simply don't do the math
    >I burn x calories daily
    >that means I must eat no more than x-300 calories daily
    Its that simple

  102. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's linoleic acid. CICO is an industry trick.

  103. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    i struggle because i just got wasted and ate a whole sleeve of cookies
    suck my ass

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